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01:53.08klys~slashdot
01:53.27jholtomanyone have free engines they want to donate to me?
01:53.39jholtomor free car bodies collecting dust?
01:53.43klysgood luck with that
01:55.39klyscan always hope utah pioneers would invest in an automotive gig
01:57.19TodPunkI want to make kit electric cars
01:58.28frostyfrogmade an electric car in 9th grade as a class project... as a class...
01:58.34klysis it considered lawful to ship the batteries for those?
02:04.02jholtomklys: yeah shipping batteries is just fine
02:04.20jholtomklys: also I can just go explore and drag rusted pieces of trash out of the mountains :P
02:05.13klysjholtom, I was just worried that they might be considered explosives.
02:05.32jholtomif they're big enough, maybe, but in general its 'ok'
02:05.51TodPunkThere's just some rules you have to follow.  USPS has them somewhere.
02:05.53klysconsidering a standard new battery you might find on say a tesla
02:06.32klysthough I guess tesla manufactures its own batteries
02:08.38TodPunkcertainly not on-site
02:09.05TodPunkIf I recall, Lithium ion batteries can't ship more than 40% charged or something like that
02:09.50jholtommhm
02:11.13klyshttp://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Tesla-Model-S-battery-modules-24V-21-2kWh-1776-Panasonic-18650-cells-/262288917272
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15:30.00jlp_zncyoutah: got any good tutorials for that parallel ssh library you used in python?
15:58.03unummy toyota hybrid has a tesla battery
15:58.26unumthey build a big facility in nevada(?) to manufacture them
16:09.29eightyeightunum: which hybrid do you have?
16:09.40eightyeightis waiting for toyota to release a corollo hybrid
16:09.44eightyeight*corolla
16:10.34unumwe have a highlander
16:10.39eightyeightnice
16:10.45unumof course our corolla still gets much better gas milage
16:11.07unumI drive the corolla to work and we use the highlander as a family car
16:11.26eightyeightyeah. i get ~40mpg freeway, ~35mpg city
16:11.28unumwe've had it for two and a half years and I think it has 16,000 miles on it
16:11.38eightyeightbut i would love to bump that 50% if possible in a hybrid
16:11.38unumit's average is around 28
16:12.10unumthe priuses aren't much bigger and don't do much better that the corrolas
16:12.24unumI'm thinking of switching to a volt
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16:13.17unumthough that's probably a long way out
16:13.21eightyeighti've heard the prius gets 54mpg city, 50mpg freeway
16:13.49unumthat would be an improvement
16:14.22unumwe're going to sell my condo in two weeks, and hopefully pay off the highlander next year, then the only debt we'll have will be our house and I hope to keep it that way
16:14.26eightyeightseeing as though i do mostly city driving, it would be big gains for me
16:14.30unumso it'll be a long time before I buy a car
16:14.34eightyeightnice
16:14.47unumas long as the corolla holds up
16:14.51eightyeighti just passed 150k on my '07 corolla
16:15.05eightyeighti figure i have about another 150k before it's time to start looking
16:15.07unumwe're only at 115k on our '05 I think
16:47.21spangbornI hear bikes are nice ;)
16:54.26manithreehears the same
16:59.08aeryndunhamSo I've taken foster doggo out twice today and he hasn't pooped. If he does it in my apartment, I will be displeased.
16:59.08spangbornI got a new one recently :) https://i.imgur.com/FzpaaWz.jpg
16:59.17spangbornaeryndunham: Do you have some of the pads?
16:59.19spangbornPotty pad things
16:59.36aeryndunhamspangborn: We do, yeah. We have on down, but who knows if he's been trained to use them....
16:59.39aeryndunhamit's not a puppy
16:59.53spangbornYep, but they're usually naturally drawn to use them
17:00.04aeryndunhamah
17:00.05spangbornNot a guarantee, but a safe bet to try
17:00.15aeryndunhamYeah, we made sure to ask the shelter for some
17:00.37aeryndunhamSo far he's a fantastic dog, super well behaved, I just underestimated how much of a pain it is to take a dog outside when you live on the 6th floor
17:00.38programmerqhow's the doggo with his cold?
17:00.49programmerqoh yeah, 6th floor is a bummer
17:00.57spangbornaeryndunham: Haha. I used to live that pain. I lived on the fourth floor with a 40lb Aussie mix
17:01.31aeryndunhamIt's making me think that a dog might not be long-term sustainable until I live in a house, or at least a 1st floor apartment
17:01.42aeryndunhamHe doesn't really seem too sick, until he starts coughing (which is really rare)
17:01.54spangbornHe looks like a pretty good pup :)
17:02.01spangbornPretty mellow?
17:02.06aeryndunhamVery
17:02.16aeryndunhamhe'll play if you want to play, otherwise he just hangs out
17:02.22aeryndunhamdoesn't even go mental if you're cooking/eating
17:02.26aeryndunhamDoesn't bark at other dogs
17:02.47aeryndunhamOf course we have to stay far far away from all the other doggos when we're outside, so I can't take him to the park
17:02.56aeryndunhamwonder how long he's contagious for after starting antibiotics
17:03.29aeryndunhamAnd I might be allergic :p all the dogs I had growing up were poodle mixes
17:03.52spangbornI think it's just a few weeks with Kennel cough, but i could be wrong
17:04.15spangbornGlad he seems to be enjoying himself, at least
17:05.56aeryndunhamspangborn: He's only here for 10 days, so has to be less than that
17:07.01aeryndunhamWe were also surprised at how he needed zero adjustment time to warm up to us. It's like Chris and I were his best friends instantly.
17:07.19spangbornHow long had he been at the shelter?
17:07.48aeryndunhamJust a week
17:07.55spangbornThat's impressive then
17:07.59spangbornGood dog :)
17:08.07aeryndunhamBut his form says he was a "Return" so I think he was at the shelter before he lived with someone?
17:08.17spangbornAh, could be
17:08.28aeryndunhamBut honestly unless he's a terror when he's not ill, he's a really fantastic dog.
17:08.41spangbornMy dogs would definitely not handle living with new people that well
17:09.00spangbornHell, just leaving them with my parents usually means my dogs start getting vindictive ;p
17:09.22spangbornIf my parents don't play enough fetch, my older dog will go pee on the carpet as retribution
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17:11.08spangbornYour foster looks like fun though :)
17:11.45aeryndunhamHe's honestly one of the ugliest dogs I've ever seen :p
17:11.53aeryndunhambut he's a fun
17:15.22manithreespangborn: Nice.  A friend at work I ride with just got one of these: http://www.cannondale.com/USA/Bike/ProductDetail?Id=a90e7008-1499-4662-a992-55a4d740ca2c&parentid=0ebc38a3-5715-412e-a6c1-ca577c373d4d
17:16.00spangbornNice! Hydro disc, too
17:16.51spangbornKinda surprised to see that style of bike in a carbon frame.
17:21.14spangbornI need to write a script to get letsencrypt working more smoothly on my nginx server
17:21.22spangbornHaving to renew manually is dumb
17:21.30jlp_znccron is your friend
17:21.39spangbornYep, that's the plan
17:21.48youtahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY
17:21.53spangbornBut the VPS I'm running it only doesn't support the nginx certbot integration
17:21.58spangbornso I've gotta script it myself
17:22.03youtahjlp_znc, you mean Paramiko?
17:22.09aeryndunhamI tried to get my letsecrypt renew automatically through crontab, but it didn't work
17:22.12youtahI dont have anything online
17:22.33spangbornI suppose I could just force it to use webroot
17:22.39jlp_zncput something like this in cron:  /path/to/certbot-auto renew --quiet && /path/to/nginx -s reload
17:23.00jlp_zncyoutah: yeah, paramiko
17:23.14jlp_zncI found it, going through the docs
17:23.22jlp_zncbut as is typical for python docs, they kind of suck.
17:23.54TodPunkspangborn: I would bike for my transportation, not for leisure.  Except I can't, because winter and freeways.
17:24.08spangbornTodPunk: Well that's what happens when you live in Utah County ;p
17:24.28TodPunkSuburbia is a real thing.
17:24.32youtahyeah
17:24.34spangbornHaha indeed
17:24.40spangbornI'm in West Jordan though
17:24.52TodPunkI have 4 children.  No way.
17:24.52spangbornI'm going to attempt studded tires on my Cannondale come winter
17:24.53jlp_zncI had a host start alerting last night that it's disk was at 80%.  discovered that ubuntu was happily upgrading the kernel periodically, but wasn't purging the old linux-headers packages
17:24.58youtahjlp_znc, basically it returns a tuple, with your Return Code, StdOut and StdErr
17:25.00spangbornjlp_znc: Whoops
17:25.36spangbornTodPunk: I'm not proposing eliminating a car completely
17:25.40TodPunkjlp_znc: auto-updates will do that, yeah.  That way if it doesn't boot sometime you can just use the old kernel that worked.
17:25.41spangbornJust using a bike when feasible :)
17:25.55jlp_zncso I want to throw together a quick script that pulls all of my instances with boto3, then uses paramiko to go out and run an apt-get autoremove -y
17:26.16TodPunkspangborn: I can't think of a scenario outisde of leisure that would work for a bike for most people unless you just lived in SLC or your commute was largely handled by UTA (AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!)
17:26.29spangbornHaha, well I also have the benefit(?) of UTA
17:26.45spangbornThankfully I can jump between FR/TRAX
17:27.06TodPunkjlp_znc: I think there is a setting for how many historical kernel images to unroll.  Or you could just use apt-get autoremove
17:27.23TodPunkor do it remotely, sure
17:27.25jlp_zncheh, I read that as "benefit(7)" and was wondering if there was a benefit man page in section 7 of the manual
17:29.40spangbornlol jlp_znc
17:46.17frostyfrog\o/ My M2 Nanobridge(?) arrived today :D
17:49.49youtahWOO HOO
17:55.03aeryndunhamoh wow this person does not understand this tavern brawl
17:55.05aeryndunhamSTOP HITTING ME
17:56.12spangborn?
17:56.33aeryndunhamHearthstone
17:58.00frostyfrogaeryndunham: Which Blizzard games do you play?
17:58.12aeryndunhamfrostyfrog: Hearthstone and World of Warcraft
17:58.21aeryndunhamConsidering trying Overwatch but I suck at fps
18:00.24frostyfrogyoutah: Yush! Now I think I could make sure it's flashed (I'd need to verify first. Maybe put it in a faraday cage to be safe?), but I highly doubt I could legally connect it at this point to the mesh :p
18:00.45frostyfrogaeryndunham: If you do, I'd be happy to play with you sometime. :)
18:01.16Migslol, I ordered a Perplexus ball off Wish.com, actually labeled "Perplexus" and it finally arrived and it's a Chinese knock-off. "Super Power Magical Intellect Ball: Control balance. Improve intellect. Learn to build up patience. Explore for final victory."
18:01.18aeryndunhamfrostyfrog: Sure! It's an expensive game for something I think I'd suck at, so I'm not sure
18:01.39beelzebobspangborn: I've had good luck with dehydrated (https://github.com/lukas2511/dehydrated)
18:01.58spangbornbeelzebob: Ooh, this looks awesome
18:02.00spangbornThanks!
18:03.08beelzebobno problem :) I had particular needs that weren't handled by the certbot client, dehydrated worked out well
18:04.36unumthe thing that gets me in I have a bunch of internal servers I'd like certs for....
18:05.06beelzebobyou can go the dns route then
18:05.21beelzebob(assuming you have access to the dns)
18:08.01frostyfrogYou could also create your own micro manually managed CA and have all the clients trust that CA certificate. easy-rsa-scripts should help out here.
18:15.00youtahfrostyfrog, naw, you're good
18:15.20youtahjust don't point it towards your crotch for a very long time, if you're trying to conceive
18:15.37youtahhas gotten back into StarCraft II big time
18:15.59youtahmakes the best maps. Yuge maps. Maps you've never seen. I know all the best players
18:19.50aeryndunhamhaha
18:19.58frostyfrogYou mean these? http://starcraftfastest.com/starcraft-maps.php
18:20.06aeryndunhamI played the Starcraft II beta way back in the day but I was reallllly bad atit
18:20.16frostyfrogI did as well.
18:20.36frostyfrogI was really sad that they removed some awesome Terran stuff in the final game :(
18:21.11frostyfrogLike the whole "you can drop marines anywhere" and "Thor is so big, you need an SCV to build him" D:
18:24.14frostyfrogI wish they kept those features
18:24.50frostyfrogAlso, it takes forever to load the map list. Hate that ;-;
18:26.55aeryndunhamI don't understand why 'ping' is one of the things she wants me to list as knowing on my resume. SHOULDN'T PING BE A GIVEN.
18:27.15spangbornlol
18:27.32frostyfrogPong.
18:27.38spangbornDo you also know how to use "cd"
18:27.39spangbornand "ls"
18:27.50aeryndunhamshould list every command she knows
18:27.55spangbornI'd just grep your bash_history and list every command you've used
18:27.56spangbornlol
18:28.33spangborn"ls, ls -la, cd"
18:28.41frostyfroghistory | sort -u
18:29.12frostyfrogSpeaking of history...
18:29.26frostyfroggoes to set their history length to infinite.
18:30.22aeryndunhamTo me, stating that I know what ping, nslookup, and tracert are is like... insulting to everyone's intelligence
18:37.28programmerqaeryndunham▸ it's because there are far too many people that don't know what they are talking about.
18:38.04aeryndunhamIs there a way to list as a skill that I know how to Linux?
18:38.41programmerqaeryndunham▸ list the distros that you're familiar with and prepared to answer distro-specific questions about (yum/apt, for example)
18:39.18aeryndunhamcan yum, apt, dnf, and zypper :p
18:40.30aeryndunhamOr, mostly, I usually remember which distro I'm on and can google commands from there :p
18:50.08TodPunkaeryndunham: I enjoy that you've worked seemlessly within a huge bureaucracy for years and still have no idea how bureaucracies are by nature.
18:50.20aeryndunhamhaha
18:50.28aeryndunhamWe're really removed from that part of it
18:51.03TodPunkI think it's more likely you willfully ignored the signs.  Ever have a request submitted for something that took weeks, so you just chalked it up to "the logistics of getting it to a ship?" Or something similar along those lines?
18:51.24TodPunkLike for pens or something equally inane?
18:51.39aeryndunhamWell, yeah, stuff always took forever to get to us
18:52.19TodPunkI agree that your touch points with the behemoth were probably light.  You were peripheral, so you didn't have to really move the machine
18:52.33TodPunkBut you know how easy it was to actually ship yourself something from Amazon in comparison.
18:53.59TodPunkIn unrelated news, I now consider using a VPN for all my traffic.  Just seems so cumbersome.
18:54.41aeryndunhamwill brb. Doggo standing at door so I will take him outside.
19:14.45frostyfrogaeryndunham: tracert? Bleh! I prefer mtr.
19:21.02aeryndunhamWelp, 3rd walk today increasing length each time, and still no poo.
19:21.41spangbornIs he drinking enough water?
19:22.09aeryndunhamHe seems to drink not much but fairly often
19:22.25aeryndunhamHe's pretty tired out now, it's flipping hot out there
19:25.58youtahsays "your mom goes to college"
19:31.43frostyfrogShe didn't, sorry :p
19:31.58aeryndunhamResume draft done, yay!
19:34.01leviHooray!
19:34.51aeryndunhamIt was already done, really, I just got waaaaay more in detail about my last job, because that's what they wanted
19:36.01aeryndunhambrb
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