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| 01:22.35 | romanovic | I always wanted to own a dog growing up, but I have no desire for any pets at the moment. Relatives living close by have been so excessive/irresponsible with pets that I have 0 desire to add any more to our house |
| 01:23.47 | romanovic | has 4 cats already, but his wife would add a dog and more cats if he weren't enforcing reasonable pet limits |
| 01:25.47 | romanovic | If aeryndunham every wants a cat, I would be happy to make one disappear from our house for adoption purposes. ... Not really, but I like to daydream of doing such a thing. |
| 01:25.54 | romanovic | s/every/ever/ |
| 01:26.02 | aeryndunham | I'm signed up to foster animals from the shelter but I'm not really up for bottle feeding kittens, and otherwise I'm not allowed to foster a puppy until I've fostered 2 adult dogs, and everything available has been a puppy |
| 01:26.56 | aeryndunham | I also think getting a cat from Utah to Florida would be.... awkward :p |
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| 09:03.31 | winsoff | TodPunk, just to rustle your jimmies: http://approximatelycorrect.com/2017/03/28/the-ai-misinformation-epidemic/ |
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| 09:54.17 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 16:32.58 | spangborn | What kind of a web developer doesn't know how to URL encode something? |
| 16:33.07 | spangborn | Spoiler: the ones I'm currently hand-holding |
| 16:33.57 | spangborn | These developers were passing in a redirect URL into my app, and wondering why the URL arguments were getting truncated |
| 16:34.25 | spangborn | Best part: their app goes to production tomorrow |
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| 16:41.31 | unum | fun fun |
| 16:46.08 | programmerq | awesome. rip your sleep for the next few weeks. |
| 16:47.02 | spangborn | I love that they escalated it to the SVP too |
| 16:47.08 | spangborn | And now I get to explain to the SVP that they're just idiots |
| 16:55.34 | TodPunk | "Sorry sir, they simply didn't do the basics that have been the basics for 25 years." |
| 17:02.47 | spangborn | After explaining what they were doing wrong to my boss, his only response was "So web programming 101?" |
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| 17:20.09 | aeryndunham | afternoon |
| 17:20.47 | jholtom | mornin |
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| 17:22.50 | youtah | Morrrrrrrrrrrrrrre nun |
| 17:24.04 | aeryndunham | So my friend who is trying to get me a job at Carnival, she asked me to tweak my resume now that we know exactly what the job is, and she emails me saying "Can you add a couple things:" and then lists SEVENTEEN BULLET POINTS |
| 17:24.33 | jholtom | heh |
| 17:25.06 | jholtom | as someone who is currently hiring, I can tell when your resume has been intentionally padded like that :P |
| 17:25.28 | aeryndunham | I mean, all of the things she's listed I *did* kind of do at my last job, but it just seems.... excessive? |
| 17:26.06 | jholtom | it certainly is, but I suspect its going through some automated checklist systems and so those points would move you quickly through it |
| 17:28.20 | aeryndunham | Maybe, but I am super confused that she needs this super specific resume because she had a meeting with the guy putting this department together and he was already interested? So I feel like a more specific cover letter or actual face-to-face chat would actually represent what I can do rather than an obviously padded resume |
| 17:29.17 | jholtom | hahahaha |
| 17:29.23 | jholtom | you underestimate beareaucracy |
| 17:30.04 | aeryndunham | I guess, but this is also a company where my boyfriend has a job that didn't require a resume or interview, they just gave it to him, based on that he had spent so much time shipboard |
| 17:33.40 | youtah | Speaking of jobs... we have a JavaScript Position, an Embedded Linux Position, and Testing QA Positions open. |
| 17:34.01 | youtah | and testing internships if someone is looking for entry level |
| 17:34.39 | aeryndunham | is qualified for none of those but would apply anyway were she in UT :) |
| 17:36.51 | programmerq | youtah⸠which company do you work for? |
| 17:37.02 | youtah | Luxul.com |
| 17:37.12 | youtah | We manufacture networking gear, routers, switches, wireless access points, etc. |
| 17:37.44 | programmerq | my wife wants to do QA again. she has a 4 year gap in employment history though so she's had a really awful time getting her resume out. |
| 17:37.54 | youtah | Send it over |
| 17:38.02 | youtah | she knows networking, is a huge plus |
| 17:38.25 | programmerq | she hasn't touched networking in *years*. She took a cisco class back in high school (we both graduated in 2004) |
| 17:38.48 | programmerq | what's the best way to get her resume to you? |
| 17:39.02 | youtah | email it to me |
| 17:39.12 | frostyfrog | waves. |
| 17:39.15 | programmerq | will do |
| 17:39.28 | youtah | howdy frostyfrog |
| 17:39.51 | frostyfrog | Hello youtah :) |
| 17:40.08 | aeryndunham | ugh I don't want to work on my resume |
| 17:40.19 | frostyfrog | Ordered an M2 Nanobridge, still waiting on the FCC to give me a call sign >_< |
| 17:40.38 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: http://lifehacker.com/tag/resume |
| 17:41.34 | jholtom | frostyfrog: don't complain about having to wait for them to do stuff ;) |
| 17:42.02 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 17:42.11 | aeryndunham | thanks :) |
| 17:42.28 | aeryndunham | I ~thought~ my resume was pretty good, but nooooooooo 17 bullet points she wants added, like... this is impossible |
| 17:42.32 | jholtom | frostyfrog: try applying for other licenses that aren't amateur :P |
| 17:42.42 | frostyfrog | Oh boy :o |
| 17:43.22 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠what kind of stuff are in those bullet points? |
| 17:44.31 | aeryndunham | Let me paste the email somewhere |
| 17:44.40 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: "dealt with impatient customers" "dealt with customers accusing you of being rude when you were being nice" "reported networking bugs to IT staff offsite" ..... Yeah, you're right. I don't know enough to do 17 points... |
| 17:45.25 | jholtom | does anyone know of a good car wash place with a hose I can use in the valley? |
| 17:46.55 | frostyfrog | probably not mister carwash... Then again, I don't remember looking for a hose eithe---hmmm |
| 17:47.46 | aeryndunham | ok it was less than 17 |
| 17:47.48 | aeryndunham | http://paste.ubuntu.com/24269080/ |
| 17:49.18 | frostyfrog | jholtom: jholtom: Not sure if this is anywhere near where your looking, but IIRC, the Super Wash here appeared to be a DIY car wash place from what I remember. |
| 17:49.21 | frostyfrog | https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3836601,-111.8151384,3a,75y,15.22h,91.81t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sI0JpgjPKszRBKGvbQoV-Cw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DI0JpgjPKszRBKGvbQoV-Cw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D59.43418%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 |
| 17:49.40 | jholtom | oh, thats pretty close actually |
| 17:49.55 | frostyfrog | Oooo, nice! x3 |
| 17:50.18 | jholtom | I wonder how they'll feel about me hosing out my disaster of a truck bed |
| 17:50.46 | aeryndunham | Ooooh a foster dog is available |
| 17:50.51 | aeryndunham | I can't tell how big it is though |
| 17:50.57 | aeryndunham | It needs 10 days of cold medicine :p |
| 17:51.04 | jholtom | awww |
| 17:51.07 | jholtom | you should do it |
| 17:52.19 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠honestly it sounds like much of that probably ought to be on your resume already. |
| 17:52.34 | frostyfrog | jholtom: Google says it's permanently closed, but I have no idea if it really is or not. Never been there and I haven't driven by it recently. |
| 17:54.41 | manithree | Heh, ESR on BBT: "This is supposed to be a show about geniuses? Itâs not. Itâs a show about a dimwitâs idea of what bright people are like." |
| 17:55.52 | aeryndunham | programmerq: Maybe.... everyone who has ever helped me with resumes has always valued brevity, so I don't elaborate much on what I have now |
| 17:56.21 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠brevity is good. you can probably condense some of these bullet points into 1-2 words |
| 17:59.40 | aeryndunham | dammit I cant find the non-pdf version of my resume |
| 18:04.29 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠there are different styles of resume too-- sometimes it makes sense to maintain a few variants. since you have insider info that they want a bunch of little detailed things, then you can send a 2-3 page resume that captures stuff at that level. |
| 18:05.47 | aeryndunham | That is true |
| 18:05.52 | aeryndunham | Thanks for the help |
| 18:09.34 | TodPunk | aeryndunham: the biggest thing in this instance, in my estimation, is that your resume is absolutely going to have to pass some HR checklist, probably automated. The humans involved don't care, as you're pointing out. Chris can probably corroborate my guess here with his own cross-hiring process he just went through, no? |
| 18:11.06 | aeryndunham | Maybe |
| 18:15.36 | jlp_znc | just add a section at the end called "mechanical resume vetting fodder" and copy/paste in the stuff your friend sent you. |
| 18:16.03 | jlp_znc | if a human actually looks at it, they'll get a chuckle out of it and you'll at least get a phone call to ask you about it |
| 18:30.57 | aeryndunham | Yay, I have a foster dog for 10 days :) |
| 18:33.49 | programmerq | how big? |
| 18:34.55 | aeryndunham | Looks small. Terrier mix. |
| 18:34.56 | aeryndunham | http://petharbor.com/pet.asp?uaid=MIAD.A1669085 |
| 18:35.00 | aeryndunham | He's got a cold. |
| 18:35.08 | aeryndunham | So hopefully he won't be too too miserable |
| 18:36.28 | spangborn | Hopefully he'll bring the spark to your home |
| 18:37.31 | programmerq | I don't think dogs drive Chevrolets. |
| 18:39.42 | spangborn | They drive Minis though |
| 18:40.18 | spangborn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWAK0J8Uhzk |
| 18:41.18 | aeryndunham | I'm just excited because this shelter has this weird rule that I can't foster a puppy until I've fostered two adult dogs, but adult dogs going out for foster seem to be rare |
| 18:42.21 | aeryndunham | what do I need to do to dog-proof my apartment?? it's been a long time since I've had a dog |
| 18:42.26 | frostyfrog | puts on an episode of Robotech :3 |
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| 18:55.39 | TodPunk | just get food and chewables out of reach, for the most part. |
| 18:59.05 | aeryndunham | Yeah, everything is pretty put away - our cabinets look like theyd be tough for a dog to open |
| 18:59.53 | programmerq | chewables could also be pillows, furniture, cords, blankets, shoes, etc... |
| 19:06.54 | TodPunk | especially for fosters that might be acting out |
| 19:07.25 | jlp_znc | yeah, make sure your couch is out of reach :-) |
| 19:07.42 | TodPunk | I'm sure a cursory google will tell you if the breed tends to like rawhide bones or something that might be a good outlet for them |
| 19:19.08 | programmerq | we found that our golden retriever likes the dogbones you can get from the meat counter at harmons. the pre-packaged ones are so dry that she goes through them in like 2 days. the one from the meat counter has been her favorite for a couple weeks now. |
| 19:32.23 | manithree | All dogs (AFAIK) like Kong Cones, and they're generally safer than bones. |
| 19:33.40 | programmerq | my dog just finds them annoying and loses interest really fast. |
| 19:33.55 | jlp_znc | you've got to put peanut butter or something like that inside |
| 19:33.56 | manithree | How much PB do you put in it? |
| 19:34.12 | programmerq | yeah, the peanut butter isn't worth it compared to the marrow in the real bone. |
| 19:34.46 | jlp_znc | real bones are definitely better, but messier (at least at first) |
| 19:35.14 | manithree | I had a dog killed by a neighbor being "nice" and giving it bones, so we're pretty careful about real bones |
| 19:35.29 | jlp_znc | stay away from chicken bones and you're usually okay. |
| 19:35.35 | jlp_znc | chicken bones will splinter |
| 19:35.43 | manithree | That's exactly what happened |
| 19:35.57 | manithree | Cooked chicken bones are BAD |
| 19:37.15 | manithree | http://www.petmd.com/dog/nutrition/evr_dg_raw_bones_or_cooked_bones |
| 19:45.22 | SunSparc | spangborn: That dog driving the Mini is pretty cool. |
| 19:45.41 | spangborn | Haha, I enjoyed it |
| 19:47.27 | programmerq | yeah, we don't give any cooked bones to my dog at all. |
| 19:48.52 | aeryndunham | Thanks guys! Sorry, a friend stopped by and we were sitting on the balcony |
| 19:51.02 | spangborn | Hi friend |
| 19:58.33 | aeryndunham | I'm hoping that this dog is old enough that it won't be super hyper/jumpy/chewy |
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| 21:24.25 | youtah | I like how the red guy doesn't give a #$$% |
| 21:24.28 | youtah | and keeps walking |
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| 21:38.43 | SunSparc | Ouch? |
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| 23:13.35 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA |