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| 16:31.43 | manithree | considers buying a USB programmer to convert his flashlights to open source https://launchpad.net/flashlight-firmware |
| 16:32.23 | spangborn | Wait what |
| 16:32.48 | spangborn | Flashlight firmware is a thing, huh |
| 16:35.50 | manithree | Yep. attinys mostly (that I own). |
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| 17:24.05 | unum | so when designing an api where people are going to requested a list of projects with different preset parameters as the results |
| 17:24.25 | unum | like say I might request a list of projects with their name, number, and dates |
| 17:24.57 | unum | or I might want a list of projects with all that plus a bunch of performance data related to the projects that are in different tables |
| 17:25.25 | unum | is it common to allow a flag to be set saying I want this defined set of fields |
| 17:26.01 | unum | and then run completely different queries based on that flag |
| 17:33.45 | TodPunk | You usually try to do a building of a query to meet the needs, and a good API (in my opinion) allows options to be specific by names or something rather than what most would consider "flags" |
| 17:34.02 | TodPunk | You could go full bore on JSON API |
| 17:34.13 | TodPunk | http://jsonapi.org/ |
| 17:39.54 | unum | I was thinking something like a report_type parameter. Then values could be basic, performance, billing. |
| 17:46.24 | TodPunk | you'd just do like example.com/api/reports/<report_type> at that point |
| 17:46.35 | TodPunk | but yeah, about the same |
| 17:47.59 | TodPunk | I would only caution against tying API requests to specific consumer patterns. If you can support those patterns in a generic way that could support other patterns in the future, like requesting new fields, you don't need to re-edit the API to gain those features later. |
| 17:48.12 | TodPunk | You have to be the one to decide it that's worth anything, though, obviously |
| 18:13.11 | levi | spangborn: I would guess that the flashlight microcontroller manages PWM dimming and possibly some aspects of battery monitoring. |
| 18:13.41 | spangborn | I just never really thought about a micro controller in a flashlight |
| 18:13.49 | spangborn | Just assumed it'd be a simple circuit |
| 18:14.30 | programmerq | I have a couple flashlights that have different blink/dim modes |
| 18:14.52 | levi | They mostly were until pretty recently, but high-output LEDs and Lipo batteries have changed things. |
| 18:14.58 | spangborn | Also kind of surprised that they're even flushable |
| 18:15.01 | spangborn | *flashable |
| 18:15.05 | spangborn | Thanks autocorrect |
| 18:15.57 | levi | Also, microcontroller implementations are probably now cheaper than flashers that use discrete 555 timers or something. |
| 18:16.34 | spangborn | That'd make sense. |
| 18:16.46 | spangborn | Just a thought that never occurred to me :) |
| 18:17.30 | levi | Yeah, microcontrollers creep into everything behind the scenes as they get smaller and cheaper. |
| 18:18.45 | levi | And as LiPo batteries get smaller and cheaper. |
| 18:19.51 | levi | They're better in almost every way than other rechargeable batteries, but they *require* some control logic to use. |
| 18:23.00 | levi | I'm betting that the cheapest way to get battery management includes a general-purpose microcontroller in the deal now. |
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| 18:26.16 | levi | With modern semiconductor processes, the wire bonding pads required to get signals to the package leads are bigger than the space you need to implement an 8-bit microcontroller. |
| 18:30.03 | levi | It's frankly hard to understand all the implications of the technology in modern smartphones, which is where miniaturization and economies of scale really come into play. |
| 18:33.57 | levi | The market volume for cell phones this year is likely to be around 2 billion units. Something like 3/4 of them will be smartphones. |
| 18:35.14 | levi | Aside from the main SoC in them, they've got a variety of microcontrollers scattered about inside them. |
| 18:37.23 | manithree | levi: pwm, modes, mode memory, strobe, heat, turbo step-down |
| 18:38.02 | manithree | and low voltage protection/indication are what the mcu are used for in my lights |
| 19:14.01 | levi | That makes sense. |
| 20:13.00 | unum | TodPunk: thanks for the advice. that helps. That's what I've been thinking, but I'm writing both the front and back end |
| 20:13.12 | unum | really I should probably just seperate out some the things I'm doing |
| 20:13.24 | unum | an other example is employees and time cards |
| 20:14.33 | unum | if I want a list of the employees who clocked in today, rather than searching against the employee resource I should probably just search against the time card resource |
| 20:32.39 | aeryndunham | gah, I wish there were a way for me to take a cat home for just a couple days to make suuuuuuure I'm not going to have an allergic reaction; I quite worried about it |
| 20:40.24 | TodPunk | aeryndunham: rub your face in the cate |
| 20:40.26 | TodPunk | -e |
| 20:43.35 | aeryndunham | I kinda did |
| 20:43.41 | aeryndunham | when I saw some a couple days ago |
| 20:44.25 | aeryndunham | But, like... ok. I was 15, I slept over a friends house, her 4 cats slept in the bed, and I could barely open my eyes the next day. I didn't touch a cat for 15 years. Spent day at a cat cafe in Korea, was sure I'd be instantly ill.... I was fine |
| 20:44.36 | aeryndunham | But I don't want to get a cat home and 2 days later start sneezing |
| 20:46.08 | TodPunk | I'm not allergic to anything, but I went to my sister-in-law's who has like 5 cats and her place smells like it, had to take a claritin after 20 minutes. |
| 20:46.29 | TodPunk | I think it's less the cats and more the sheer amount of cat waste |
| 20:46.36 | TodPunk | Could be similar for you |
| 20:46.40 | aeryndunham | Maybe |
| 20:46.49 | aeryndunham | I remember my friend's bedroom being just covered in cat hair |
| 20:46.58 | TodPunk | cats are usually quite clean, but not when you get a bunch of them in an enclosed space where the owner doesn't clean up either |
| 20:47.16 | TodPunk | it's less the hair and usually the dander people are allergic to |
| 20:47.25 | TodPunk | though they tend to go hand in hand |
| 20:47.33 | aeryndunham | I also am allergic to *something* at my parents house (we think probably mold) so I'm kind of used to relying on anti-allergy medicine to survive anyway |
| 20:51.40 | programmerq | we've got a friend that is fine if we vacuum right before she comes over. if not, she's only mildly allergic. |
| 20:51.52 | programmerq | she can pet the cats, just has to go wash her hands right away |
| 20:52.19 | aeryndunham | I kinda figure that if I haven't completely outgrown the allergy, it |
| 20:52.31 | aeryndunham | it isn't severe, or that day at a cat cafe would have done me in |
| 20:52.57 | aeryndunham | so even if it's mild, *one* cat in a well cleaned apartment plus maybe an occasional claritin, might be fine? |
| 20:53.23 | aeryndunham | I just really want one |
| 20:53.44 | aeryndunham | and I'm inclined to believe my cat allergy went the way of my childhood asthma |
| 20:56.14 | aeryndunham | http://humanebroward.com/cats/ i mean look at those little faces |
| 21:02.47 | TodPunk | You're probably fine, but I can't in good conscience recommend you get a cat. You have to take that leap on your own. |
| 21:12.08 | spangborn | You should get a hedgehog. |
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| 21:50.03 | levi | This is strange. |
| 21:51.20 | levi | I have a program listening to raw packets via a direct PF_PACKET socket. Then I start another program that uses libpcap and expresses a filter that overlaps with the previous program; this program now gets those packets, but the previous one doesn't anymore. |
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| 22:18.29 | harleypig | Is anyone familiar with bluetooth enough to help me figure out why I can't get my headphones to pair? |
| 22:18.42 | harleypig | to my computer, not my phone. |
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| 22:57.07 | jlp_znc | harleypig: OS? |
| 22:57.22 | jlp_znc | what kind of headphones? |
| 23:24.09 | jlp_znc | Well, that was a fun day. I updated my subnetter script (originally written in 1998) to work with Tcl::pTk so it would run on the mac without X11. |
| 23:24.56 | jlp_znc | https://github.com/jlp78/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/scripts/subnetter if anyone is interested in checking it out. Don't judge, it's ooooold code. |
| 23:52.47 | harleypig | jlp_znc: Sorry, had a video interview. |
| 23:52.59 | harleypig | Linux Mint 18; Bose Q35 |
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