| 05:48.38 | jlp_znc | harleypig: you sure you are using the right password? look in /var/log/auth.log for anything relevant. Try ssh -vvv so you can see the whole protocol exchange. |
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| 16:25.14 | frostyfrog | would've thought that would work. |
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| 16:32.53 | RyanE | that's what she said. |
| 16:34.56 | frostyfrog | :) |
| 16:36.04 | RyanE | TWSS is a lot like the chinese fortune cookie addendum "In Bed". |
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| 16:57.38 | jholtom | There was some machine learning thingy that detected appropriate times to add twss |
| 16:57.46 | jholtom | I had a web interface for it at one time lol |
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| 16:59.10 | TodPunk | TWSS as a service |
| 17:09.08 | jholtom | https://github.com/bvandenbos/twss |
| 17:09.31 | jholtom | yeah, it was this, but I think I got rid of my frontend because I didn't want employers finding that I'd written a service for it |
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| 17:48.30 | jlp_znc | jholtom: it was called "youtah" |
| 17:48.41 | jlp_znc | (the "twss" thingy) |
| 17:48.51 | jholtom | haha |
| 17:50.19 | jlp_znc | ~twss |
| 17:50.19 | infobot | That's what she said! |
| 17:50.46 | jlp_znc | (I had to do it since youtah isn't here) |
| 18:23.14 | romanovic | Happy Monday! |
| 18:24.10 | romanovic | reminds everyone that having more snow cancels out all cases of _the Mondays_ |
| 18:24.19 | romanovic | at least it should. |
| 18:41.23 | jholtom | I wish it worked that way |
| 18:56.43 | levi | Driving through that crap always makes me grumpy. |
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| 20:51.46 | jima | RyanE: one time i was having dinner with a prospective employer and his family (and my wife), at a chinese restaurant...at the end of dinner, his wife let me in on the fortune addendum (which, granted, i'd long since known). |
| 20:52.30 | spangborn | Supposed to be good weather when I'm in Boston, assuming the forecast sticks |
| 20:52.37 | jima | it wasn't exactly scandalous, but it was really surreal, particularly given that i hadn't even interviewed for the job and had no idea if i'd get it, or if i'd ever see these people again. |
| 20:52.40 | RyanE | *uncomfortable*... |
| 20:53.15 | jima | strictly speaking i never did interview for it, according to one of the hiring managers and their boss. |
| 20:53.45 | jima | (granted, i've been doing said job for 5.5 years now) |
| 20:54.04 | RyanE | I've gotten a few jobs I didn't interview for. |
| 20:54.23 | jima | i've interviewed for more jobs i didn't get than got jobs i didn't interview for. |
| 20:54.25 | RyanE | One of them, I was having lunch with friends who worked there, and after lunch, they just said: "You want a job?" |
| 20:54.56 | RyanE | I get the feeling I don't interview well, except for this last job (11 years now). Mainly because I didn't really care if I got it... :) |
| 20:55.08 | jima | i wouldn't have gotten the job at all if i hadn't half-jokingly asked "you guys aren't hiring, are you?" |
| 20:55.20 | jima | (on irc) |
| 20:55.31 | spangborn | You guys aren't hiring, are you? |
| 20:55.34 | spangborn | (Does that work?) |
| 20:56.00 | jima | spangborn: i'm not sure i could pay you enough ;-) |
| 20:56.06 | spangborn | Haha |
| 20:56.17 | jima | but if srs, /msg :-P |
| 20:57.01 | spangborn | Do you hire Javascript fanatic web developers? |
| 20:57.12 | jima | not my department. next! |
| 20:57.34 | spangborn | Haha |
| 20:57.43 | spangborn | What about avid fans of IPv6? |
| 20:57.51 | jima | that's not a brush-off, exactly, development is literally a different department, under a different vp. i don't know what they're hiring for, if anything. |
| 20:58.02 | jima | spangborn: we got one of those already |
| 20:58.09 | spangborn | Oh well crap |
| 20:58.13 | jima | freakin' weirdo too |
| 20:58.18 | spangborn | puts IPv6 book back on the shelf |
| 20:58.28 | spangborn | leaves Barnes and Noble |
| 20:58.41 | spangborn | drops IPv6 networking class |
| 20:58.52 | jima | assumes spangborn knows that jima is the resident ipv6 nutjob in this channel/company/state |
| 20:58.59 | spangborn | Haha yes |
| 20:59.11 | aeryndunham | TIL there are ipv6 nutjobs |
| 20:59.12 | jima | it's lonely at the top :~( |
| 20:59.31 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Yeah they're really weird people with strange quirks and weird fetishes |
| 20:59.32 | jima | aeryndunham: that thing i said about getting this job via irc? it was in #ipv6. :-P |
| 20:59.49 | spangborn | They count in base6 instead of base10 |
| 20:59.56 | jima | spangborn: base 16, smartass. |
| 21:00.01 | spangborn | Hahaha |
| 21:00.08 | spangborn | FOUND THE IPV6 GUY |
| 21:00.15 | jima | hahahaha |
| 21:00.23 | jima | well played, sir |
| 21:00.27 | spangborn | That trap was perfectly laid |
| 21:00.31 | spangborn | And boy did it work |
| 21:00.34 | jima | yes, it truly was. |
| 21:00.52 | jima | will have to remember that |
| 21:01.24 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 21:01.24 | jlp_znc | hah |
| 21:01.55 | aeryndunham | I don't know very much about IPV6, to be honest |
| 21:01.55 | jima | spangborn: http://i.imgur.com/aCjTlbd.jpg |
| 21:02.04 | jima | aeryndunham: most people don't, even in IT |
| 21:02.05 | jlp_znc | my "heh" stats have gone way up since I stopped saying "heh heh" |
| 21:02.21 | spangborn | LOL jima so true |
| 21:02.27 | jima | spangborn: sprang to mind |
| 21:03.04 | TodPunk | sees the irony in the godwin's law reference |
| 21:03.08 | spangborn | I figured out something today |
| 21:03.13 | aeryndunham | I want to get some kind of IT certification but I'm not good at anything :p Dont' even know where to start.I think I'm capable of ending up with some kind of IT job, I just like.... any training |
| 21:03.17 | spangborn | I finally realized how the recruiters are calling my desk number. |
| 21:03.29 | spangborn | They're calling the investor center phone number and asking to be transferred to me |
| 21:03.38 | spangborn | Which explains why the caller ID says "FIDELITY" |
| 21:04.15 | spangborn | Recruiters are dicks |
| 21:04.23 | frostyfrog | Main thing I know about IPv6? ::1 is localhost and without using the IPv4 compatibility layer, you can't do fun things like hosting services on 127.0.0.1:80 and 127.1.0.1:80 and 127.1.1.1:80, all at the same time. (all seperate services) |
| 21:04.40 | jholtom | lol |
| 21:04.58 | jima | frostyfrog: all of 127/8 being loopback is a dirty, dirty hack and you oughta know it :-P |
| 21:05.25 | jlp_znc | damn expensive use of a class A address, too. |
| 21:05.30 | frostyfrog | Oh, I do. But I still confuse people by browsing to 127.1.1.1 instead of 127.0.0.1 xD |
| 21:05.37 | jima | frostyfrog: besides, you could do something like anyip6 or attaching more ips to lo |
| 21:05.52 | jima | (i do that for other reasons) |
| 21:06.03 | RyanE | I don't answer my desk number, because corporate is 3100, my extension is 3110, so 70% of calls on my desk phone are not for me. :) |
| 21:06.09 | RyanE | easier than learning how to transfer. |
| 21:06.25 | spangborn | RyanE: I had a dorm phone number at the U that was one digit off from the Moran Eye Center |
| 21:06.30 | RyanE | waste of good brain cells to learn how to transfer. |
| 21:06.30 | spangborn | 1->7 |
| 21:06.36 | RyanE | annoying |
| 21:06.48 | jima | spangborn: so everyone who couldn't read that digit called you |
| 21:06.54 | RyanE | ha! |
| 21:06.55 | aeryndunham | I don't remember even having a dorm phone at the U |
| 21:06.58 | spangborn | And so as a joke I started answering as "Moran Eye Center" when friends would call. Until I accidentally answered a legitimate call for the Moran |
| 21:07.07 | jima | oops |
| 21:07.07 | spangborn | And then had to panic hang up |
| 21:07.10 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 21:07.44 | spangborn | jima: Basically |
| 21:07.53 | jlp_znc | "sure, your appointment is confirmed for 4:00 PM tomorrow. see you then!" |
| 21:08.01 | spangborn | aeryndunham: I didn't have a cell phone, so it was basically the only way to call me |
| 21:08.04 | RyanE | We used to get calls for "Bruce and Brenda" don't remember last name for like 8 years on our new home number. |
| 21:08.07 | frostyfrog | "I'm sorry, you'll need to call our main line at 3-seven-00 |
| 21:08.11 | frostyfrog | " |
| 21:08.16 | spangborn | Not having a cell phone was a fun debacle in college |
| 21:08.39 | spangborn | A friend and I drove to the airport to pick up a friend's car so they wouldn't have to pay for long term parking |
| 21:08.57 | jlp_znc | did you tell the friend? |
| 21:09.13 | spangborn | He drove me down to the airport. He got into the friend's car, and I saw the lights come on. So I drove his car back up to campus |
| 21:09.21 | spangborn | Turns out, the friend I drove to the airport with can't drive a stick |
| 21:09.24 | RyanE | heh |
| 21:09.32 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 21:09.33 | jlp_znc | whoops |
| 21:09.39 | spangborn | So I got back to the dorms |
| 21:09.41 | jholtom | haha |
| 21:09.45 | spangborn | And waited and waited |
| 21:09.48 | jlp_znc | so you got to make two trips to the airport? |
| 21:09.52 | spangborn | LOL yes |
| 21:09.58 | RyanE | could you drive stick? |
| 21:10.02 | spangborn | I however, can drive stick |
| 21:10.24 | spangborn | At that point my friend who drove to the airport with me demanded I get a cell phone |
| 21:11.04 | RyanE | and you demanded he learn how to drive stick. |
| 21:11.16 | spangborn | Haha, apparently he "knew" how to drive stick, he just really sucked at it |
| 21:11.17 | jima | haha |
| 21:11.31 | RyanE | Rented a car in Germany a couple of weeks ago, it was stick. I was fine with it, except I had to ask the rental counter guy how to get it into reverse... |
| 21:11.41 | frostyfrog | So.... he could've driven home, but didn't want to? |
| 21:11.44 | RyanE | it was a 6-speed diesel, reverse was in same place as '1' |
| 21:11.56 | spangborn | RyanE: Whoa what |
| 21:12.04 | jima | not so many people can drive stick these days...i just sold my old car (which was a manual). got a few false starts...got to the point where our first question was "you saw it's manual transmission, right?" |
| 21:12.04 | RyanE | yeah, that's what I said... :) |
| 21:12.06 | spangborn | frostyfrog: Probably, but the clutch would have been toast |
| 21:12.26 | spangborn | I have an emotional attachment to driving stick |
| 21:12.43 | RyanE | spangborn: The stickshift lever had a ring on it, which you pull up if you want to engage R, leave alone for 1. |
| 21:12.48 | jima | i used to. i lack the patience anymore, and no one liked/wanted to drive my old car |
| 21:12.50 | spangborn | That's interesting |
| 21:12.51 | RyanE | not hard to get used to. |
| 21:13.09 | spangborn | What car was it? |
| 21:13.16 | RyanE | Ford Focus, I believe. |
| 21:13.35 | RyanE | or Fusion |
| 21:13.45 | RyanE | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpi0bEKNWIE |
| 21:13.48 | RyanE | like that |
| 21:13.51 | spangborn | I've never seen anything like that before |
| 21:14.02 | RyanE | me either. Glad I remembered to check before I left the lot. :) |
| 21:14.49 | jholtom | I only own stick shifts still |
| 21:14.53 | jholtom | its bad |
| 21:14.56 | jholtom | nobody can drive them |
| 21:15.06 | RyanE | we had to buy one when my last truck died, just so I can teach the kids how. |
| 21:15.08 | jima | i can, my wife can, her parents can... |
| 21:15.19 | RyanE | I think it's a parental responsibility to teach them. |
| 21:15.26 | spangborn | I learned to drive on a stick. It's completely natural to me now. |
| 21:15.29 | RyanE | we *start* with the manual... makes it easier. |
| 21:15.32 | jima | her sister had zero interest in learning |
| 21:15.50 | spangborn | RyanE: Exactly. I find automatics so boring to drive now |
| 21:16.03 | jima | spangborn: you have the wrong automatic then |
| 21:16.06 | RyanE | my daily driver is an auto. |
| 21:16.12 | RyanE | and boring by design. |
| 21:16.17 | spangborn | I had the opportunity to buy a nicer car for less than I paid for my manual, and I turned it down because it was an automatic |
| 21:16.20 | frostyfrog | I probably could logic my way through it. |
| 21:16.27 | jima | enjoys his automatic, although it does have autostick, for a halfway-authentic experience. |
| 21:16.40 | spangborn | I imagine paddle shifting would be okay |
| 21:16.43 | aeryndunham | I'm actually just learning to drive now, and I'd like to learn manual |
| 21:16.47 | spangborn | But I just like the feeling of throwing the shifter into gear |
| 21:16.49 | levi | RyanE: Having reverse be down and to the left of 1st is usual for German vehicles. |
| 21:16.54 | TodPunk | wants a self-driving electric car |
| 21:17.16 | jima | ok, back to work |
| 21:17.18 | TodPunk | I don't mind driving, but I'd much rather do other things |
| 21:17.19 | jima | cheers everyone |
| 21:17.21 | joshh | i just want teleporters |
| 21:17.25 | RyanE | levi: this is the first time I've been out of an airport in Europe... |
| 21:17.34 | RyanE | but yeah, I'm sure there are other confurations. |
| 21:17.58 | levi | RyanE: My VW Vanagon is that way here, so it's not just German vehicles in Germany. :) |
| 21:18.19 | frostyfrog | Hey, if you have a self-driving car, is it legal to all of a sudden "text and drive"? (Just a curiosity I had) |
| 21:18.38 | RyanE | I doubt it. YOu're still the legally responsible driver. |
| 21:18.43 | RyanE | and are required to be ready to 'take over'. |
| 21:19.16 | frostyfrog | They trust me to do that? |
| 21:19.29 | frostyfrog | Wow, misplaced trust. |
| 21:19.47 | RyanE | it's not about trust, it's about liability. :) |
| 21:19.49 | frostyfrog | I'd be looking at the beauty of the world... and billboards... |
| 21:19.50 | levi | Not about trust so much as liability. :) |
| 21:20.02 | RyanE | i.e. you started the car, you 'signed' the document that says you're at fault even if the AI freaks out. |
| 21:20.16 | RyanE | levi: yeah, that. :) |
| 21:21.45 | levi | I think the position of reverse in German vehicles might have been established as a convention in the days of rear-engine VW Beetles, but that's just a guess. |
| 21:22.18 | RyanE | I assumed it was up-left because low-right was taken up by gear 6. |
| 21:22.44 | RyanE | I had to use it a lot because the hotel I was staying at in Munich had quite cramped underground parking. |
| 21:22.49 | aeryndunham | so I just started this obnoxious 4 hour alcohol & safety course I had to do to get my drivers license, and is it bad that I'm drinking while I'm doing this |
| 21:22.50 | levi | Nah, my van is a 4-speed and has the up-left. |
| 21:22.50 | RyanE | double-W to get in/out. |
| 21:23.12 | RyanE | but do you have a lockout from going into it instead of '1'? |
| 21:23.25 | levi | RyanE: A mechanical one, yes. |
| 21:23.47 | levi | You have to push the shifter down before it'll go far enough left to engage reverse. |
| 21:23.53 | TodPunk | aeryndunham: I think that's the best way to do it |
| 21:24.10 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: at the very least, there is a bit of irony in that. I personally don't drink, so I wouldn't know. |
| 21:25.18 | levi | If you can pass it while tipsy, you should be able to pass it sober, so maybe it's better that way. ;) |
| 21:25.50 | aeryndunham | I mean I'm just drinking a cider; I'm not throwing back shots of whiskey here :p |
| 21:26.17 | frostyfrog | apple cider? :p |
| 21:26.21 | aeryndunham | and it's odd to me that if I were *under* 18 I could take the permit test online, but because I'm older I have to actually go to the DMV |
| 21:26.30 | aeryndunham | frostyfrog: I'm sure there are some real apples involved somewhere |
| 21:26.50 | frostyfrog | Must be from the workers makin' the cider >_> |
| 21:27.42 | aeryndunham | so far it's yelling at me in all caps about DRINKING HAS LONG TERM EFFECTS ON YOUR LIVER AND STOMACHE |
| 21:28.22 | TodPunk | duh |
| 21:28.28 | TodPunk | delicious effects |
| 21:28.37 | frostyfrog | ... |
| 21:28.54 | spangborn | Mmmm delicious whiskey |
| 21:29.07 | TodPunk | I have some pendletons at home I need to get to |
| 21:29.38 | aeryndunham | http://imgur.com/a/TUDrU - see - official state course is just yelling |
| 21:30.42 | spangborn | Their inability to color inside the lines would drive me to drink |
| 21:31.19 | TodPunk | Why is this even a function of the DMV? |
| 21:31.35 | aeryndunham | to scare 16 year olds into not drinking and driving, obviously |
| 21:31.46 | spangborn | Because of "Florida man" |
| 21:31.46 | aeryndunham | is taking this course, uh, 15 years too late |
| 21:32.25 | frostyfrog | How do they expect people to read that? |
| 21:32.51 | frostyfrog | WoT w/ gibberish |
| 21:33.20 | aeryndunham | yeah it's pretty bad |
| 21:35.23 | aeryndunham | wow, it's telling me that I *must* spend a minimum of 4 hours on this course, but to prevent people just leaving it sitting there, 10 security questions will pop up from time to time and if I don't answer in 50 seconds I am barred from continuing |
| 21:35.40 | RyanE | that's annoying. |
| 21:35.49 | RyanE | seems like they're punishing you for being smart. |
| 21:36.11 | RyanE | "I'm sorry, your reading speed skills must be *this* low to participate..." |
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| 21:50.21 | aeryndunham | oh good, now there's ugly clip art |
| 21:50.31 | aeryndunham | this is my own fault for not getting my license 15 years ago |
| 21:52.14 | TodPunk | wait |
| 21:52.18 | TodPunk | you've never had a license? |
| 21:52.22 | TodPunk | and you're 30? |
| 21:52.42 | aeryndunham | nope |
| 21:52.57 | joshh | she's always been out on the sea |
| 21:53.02 | aeryndunham | I was terrified when I was in high school, and then I didn't need a car on my college campus, and then I was at sea for 6 years |
| 21:53.03 | joshh | never needed wheels |
| 21:53.15 | joshh | just get your boat captain cert |
| 21:53.20 | joshh | and sail everywhere |
| 21:54.08 | spangborn | You are a pirate ðµ |
| 21:54.24 | RyanE | space pirate |
| 21:54.39 | aeryndunham | truth be told I'm still terrified |
| 21:54.41 | aeryndunham | but i need to be able to drive |
| 21:54.54 | RyanE | It's so easy, 15-year-olds (and 14 in Idaho) can do it! |
| 21:55.10 | aeryndunham | it's that 'dying in a car crash' thing that freaks me out |
| 21:55.23 | RyanE | yeah, don't do that. :) |
| 21:58.34 | levi | You will most likely get in some sort of a collision at some point, but safety features are such these days that they tend to be very survivable. |
| 21:59.20 | levi | And a huge number of collisions are just low-speed "fender benders" that keep the auto insurance and repair businesses alive. |
| 22:00.58 | aeryndunham | that's true |
| 22:01.20 | RyanE | I think if you're generally a cautious person (as you should be by the time you reach 30), you'll be fine. |
| 22:03.41 | frostyfrog | Oh, make sure you buckle up. |
| 22:03.56 | frostyfrog | That's one of the main reasons for the "dying" part. |
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| 22:11.22 | jlp_znc | Wow, look away to take a phone call and the channel is flooded with conversation. |
| 22:26.38 | aeryndunham | wow - "If we were dicussing someone purposefully taking rat poison or drain cleaner, most people would be completely against that action. However, if we are discussing alcoholic beverages (a poison), some people, for whatever reason, line up and pay money to take poison (alcoholic beverages). Once again, "DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?" |
| 22:27.42 | shalkie | It makes sense if you drink alcohol. :) |
| 22:27.48 | RyanE | one could say the same about sugar. :) |
| 22:27.54 | shalkie | passes teh bottle around. |
| 22:29.13 | aeryndunham | That just seems a bit excessive for a state mandated course |
| 22:29.34 | aeryndunham | but, I don't exactly live in a civilized state |
| 22:30.02 | joshh | alcohol is more of a medicine than a poison |
| 22:51.23 | TodPunk | aeryndunham: what terrible state is this? |
| 22:51.28 | TodPunk | I thought you moved to Florida |
| 22:55.03 | frostyfrog | Wasn't the ISP in the pencil state or whatever it's called? (I'm sorry, I'm horrible with long state names...) |
| 22:55.16 | TodPunk | Pennsylvania |
| 22:55.25 | frostyfrog | Yeah, that one. |
| 22:55.29 | TodPunk | but they're drinkers there.... |
| 22:55.32 | frostyfrog | :P |
| 22:56.03 | frostyfrog | Maybe she moved to Japan? The legal blood-alchohol limit while driving in Japan is 0. |
| 22:56.17 | frostyfrog | Lower than Utah's. x3 |
| 22:56.34 | TodPunk | I lied, PA apparently doesn't allow sale of much of anything for drinking off premise of a bar |
| 22:56.54 | cSmith | well frostyfrog 0 times 3 is still 0 :P |
| 22:57.03 | joshh | i was in PA recently, it was interesting |
| 22:57.19 | joshh | they have some kind of stores called "beer distributors" where you have to buy all beer to go |
| 22:57.21 | frostyfrog | cSmith: xD |
| 22:57.23 | TodPunk | so slightly less zany alcohol laws than Utah |
| 22:57.27 | joshh | but they are privately owned and some of them were awesome with great selections |
| 22:57.59 | joshh | and they limit liquor licenses at restaurants, so a lot don't have one, but its legal to BYOB at them, and so that's the norm at a ton of restaurants |
| 22:58.07 | joshh | just bring a 6 pack, etc |
| 22:58.24 | joshh | which honestly probably leads to more drinking than allowing 1 or 2 to be sold on site, but blue laws have never been about logic |
| 22:58.44 | TodPunk | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dry_communities_by_U.S._state#Pennsylvania |
| 23:00.27 | TodPunk | Somehow, Utah is not considered "dry" |
| 23:00.38 | TodPunk | I find this hilarious in many different ways |
| 23:02.50 | joshh | i used to get so mad when i'd be explaining what utah's laws due to the beer scene there, and some idiot would say something like "you shouldn't complain, we're actually not that bad compared to some states, some even have dry counties!" |
| 23:02.57 | joshh | s/due/do |
| 23:05.47 | frostyfrog | My response is, "Well, Japan doesn't even allow you to drink and drive at all" to those times. |
| 23:06.36 | frostyfrog | knows very little about liquor laws anywhere. Frostyfrog also doesn't drink. |
| 23:09.15 | joshh | well, places like japan and much of europe are actually much, much more strict on drinking and driving than the US |
| 23:09.34 | joshh | but they also have bars and restaurants with alcohol all over the neighborhoods |
| 23:09.48 | joshh | so do a lot of other states tbh, and the more walkable us cities |
| 23:10.00 | joshh | but in utah it's the norm to drive to some bar somewhere that has a big parking lot |
| 23:10.14 | joshh | and zoned like it's a strip club or something |
| 23:10.25 | joshh | far away from any neighborhood/school/church/etc |
| 23:25.23 | frostyfrog | I like that |
| 23:26.02 | joshh | i mean nobody really defends drinking and driving |
| 23:28.59 | TodPunk | yeah |
| 23:29.14 | TodPunk | closest it gets is "well, what else was I going to be able to do?" |
| 23:29.35 | TodPunk | which is usually something like call a cab, but alas, if you're drunk, you don't answer that question as well |
| 23:54.09 | aeryndunham | TodPunk: haha, sorry, yes, I'm in Florida |
| 23:54.20 | aeryndunham | Hotwise is my ISP; not sure why it showed as Pennsylvania |
| 23:54.24 | aeryndunham | *Hotwire |
| 23:54.37 | TodPunk | Their address for corporate or whatever is in PA |
| 23:54.44 | TodPunk | so their IPs get listed as owned by that |
| 23:55.47 | TodPunk | do you live in some sort of dry county there? I don't get all the hate on alcohol in this, especially from the DMV |
| 23:58.33 | *** join/#utah RobertReynolds (~RobertRey@128.187.116.7) |
| 23:59.21 | aeryndunham | Miami-Dade county, not dry |
| 23:59.24 | aeryndunham | this is a state-wide eam |
| 23:59.26 | aeryndunham | *exam |
