| 00:11.23 | SunSparc | wants to be a surf bum when he grows up |
| 00:26.49 | SunSparc | Let me just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksuQckKFsMs |
| 00:26.52 | SunSparc | Laters. |
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| 00:54.41 | romanovic | has never had a mojito, but _has_ had NOjitos for which the cruise line charged the same exorbitant price |
| 00:55.19 | romanovic | despite having only sprite with lime juice and some muddled mint leaf |
| 00:59.52 | romanovic | and congratulations aeryndunham! |
| 02:26.37 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 04:21.26 | klys | http://45.55.20.239//meme/diagram0001.jpeg |
| 04:21.34 | klys | oop |
| 04:21.42 | klys | 45.55.20.239/meme/diagram0001.jpeg |
| 04:21.45 | klys | oop |
| 04:21.51 | klys | http://45.55.20.239/meme/diagram0001.jpeg |
| 04:22.00 | klys | there ya go |
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| 16:56.04 | frostyfrog | Morning |
| 16:57.17 | jholtom | Good morning |
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| 17:16.32 | spangborn | Hi |
| 17:31.16 | fungus | So, now that StartSSL is being evicted from major browsers, are there any SSL CA's that will grant certificates for free for personal use. Other than Let's Encrypt. |
| 17:31.36 | spangborn | Why not Let's Encrypt? |
| 17:33.21 | fungus | Not saying LE is bad, I just don't want to run a daemon or cron job to keep replacing my cert. I'd like a bit more stability, at least a year. |
| 17:33.59 | programmerq | honestly, the LE model is far superior, in my experience, to manual cert renewals |
| 17:34.07 | spangborn | +1 |
| 17:34.08 | programmerq | I've seen far too many outages due to human error |
| 17:34.25 | programmerq | a set-and-forget cron will be valid for years to come with LE |
| 17:37.06 | fungus | I use the certs in many different places and ways, so i'd have to script copying the cert, bundling the cert, etc. Kind of a pain. |
| 17:37.22 | programmerq | still better than doing it manually all the time |
| 17:38.07 | spangborn | So generate a cert for each use? |
| 17:38.44 | fungus | Heh, that sounds silly, but in an automated case like this it would work. |
| 17:39.16 | fungus | kinda wasteful, but hey, not my problem. |
| 17:40.23 | frostyfrog | Need a script that's already somewhat written? :p |
| 17:41.19 | spangborn | At least that way if one is compromised or revoked, you only hide one use of it |
| 17:41.25 | fungus | nah, I can do it. I just like handling the certs, seeing the verification process etc. Make me feel warm and fuzzy. |
| 17:41.27 | spangborn | Hose* |
| 17:41.40 | fungus | Maybe i'm getting old and curmudgeonly. |
| 17:42.13 | fungus | is almost 40. *gasp* |
| 17:42.44 | frostyfrog | Looks like my bash script consists of 4 lines. 1 call to letskencrypt, then cat with redirection to bundle, sleep for 3 seconds, restart services. |
| 17:46.17 | unum | is letsencrypt allowing more hosts now |
| 17:46.29 | unum | I ran into a problem a year ago where I tried to create a lot of certificates one day |
| 17:46.35 | unum | I was trying to replace a wild card cert |
| 17:47.41 | fungus | Their docs say they have a limit of 20 certs per week |
| 17:47.53 | unum | sounds like they upped it |
| 17:47.59 | unum | I think 20 should be enough |
| 17:48.16 | fungus | But they allow up to 100 names per cert |
| 17:48.21 | unum | I may stick with the wild card though. Because most of my stuff is internal |
| 17:48.33 | unum | oh, that's what I want to do |
| 17:48.40 | unum | put a bunch of names on one cert |
| 17:49.05 | fungus | https://letsencrypt.org/docs/rate-limits/ |
| 17:49.09 | unum | though I probably need to verify them all externally |
| 17:49.39 | unum | of course I set up dns to give a different response internally than externally |
| 17:51.26 | unum | s/I/I could |
| 17:52.04 | unum | I think I did set up a bunch of hostnames to one cert again |
| 17:52.12 | unum | s/again/once |
| 17:52.19 | unum | I'll have to look up how to do that |
| 17:56.28 | frostyfrog | You could just make it so that for all domains the special directory (/.well-known/acme-challenge) is the same physical directory for all of them. |
| 18:00.20 | spangborn | I need to add that bit |
| 18:00.40 | spangborn | That way I can just request one cert for all of my virtual hosts. |
| 18:05.00 | frostyfrog | In lighty: alias.url = ( "/.well-known/acme-challenge" => "/var/www/letsencrypt" ) |
| 18:12.27 | unum | my linode is running jessie which makes a lot of this easy |
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| 18:12.52 | unum | at work I'm on centos 6.8 |
| 18:12.55 | unum | I should upgrade that |
| 18:13.13 | programmerq | yeah, el6 is really showing its age now |
| 18:13.29 | unum | the one with most of the certs is actually 7 |
| 18:13.50 | unum | but I still have some older ones |
| 18:14.04 | programmerq | rhel6 phase 2 is ending in May |
| 18:17.25 | TodPunk | fungus: namecheap's Comodo based SSL offerings are quite nice |
| 18:18.09 | TodPunk | If you don't use namecheap... well... god help you |
| 18:19.54 | fungus | ugh, 500 error on the link for the namecheap ssl certs. |
| 18:20.08 | fungus | Not inspiring confidence. :) |
| 18:33.22 | unum | I got my wildcard ssl from them |
| 18:43.18 | Migs | I got my wildcard from them too |
| 18:47.14 | programmerq | mindjuju⸠are there any groups in utah similar to checktech or girls who code? I'm wondering what age my daughter can start participating in stuff like that. She's about to turn 4, but I want to keep my eyes open. |
| 18:48.44 | programmerq | chicktech* |
| 18:48.53 | programmerq | dang dvorak typos |
| 18:49.17 | unum | programmerq: I've been doing FFL Jr for my girls |
| 18:49.25 | unum | though it start at 5 |
| 18:49.51 | unum | I'm actually applying for a grant right now |
| 18:49.57 | programmerq | oh neat |
| 18:55.52 | frostyfrog | FFL Jr? |
| 18:57.20 | programmerq | FLL Jr |
| 18:57.42 | frostyfrog | still isn't sure what it is. :p |
| 18:57.50 | programmerq | http://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/flljr |
| 18:58.28 | frostyfrog | Oh, that's cool :3 |
| 19:00.32 | programmerq | looks like it might be a bit tricky to find a local team. |
| 19:00.41 | programmerq | there's a team search, but it really only has a team name and city... |
| 20:26.02 | eightyeight | hello #utah from a guru labs training session about irc |
| 20:27.32 | programmerq | hello eightyeight ! |
| 20:30.13 | spangborn | eightyeight: Hello |
| 20:32.40 | TodPunk | programmerq: girl develop it, we have two chapters, Provo and SLC |
| 20:33.06 | TodPunk | 4 is a bit young for most of their activities I imagine |
| 20:33.29 | programmerq | yeah, I'm just thinking about it now because I got her a raspberry pi for christmas, and she's been spending oodles of time on it. |
| 20:33.40 | programmerq | want to know what to pay attention to for when she is old enough. |
| 20:33.46 | TodPunk | what are you using for her monitor? |
| 20:34.50 | programmerq | an old junky 4:3 monitor I had laying around |
| 20:34.59 | programmerq | broken pixels everywhere because I dropped it at some point |
| 20:35.00 | programmerq | but it works |
| 20:35.51 | TodPunk | nice |
| 20:37.01 | romanovic | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.01 | romanovic | has a spare raspberry pi, and a child fascinated by computers who hasn't figured out how the mouse works yet |
| 20:38.09 | programmerq | it is, but it regularly locks up |
| 20:38.12 | programmerq | and she doesn't read yet |
| 20:39.13 | romanovic | programmerq: which raspberry pi do you have? |
| 20:39.36 | programmerq | it's a 2 right now. |
| 20:39.46 | programmerq | I'd like to swap it out for a 3 at some point |
| 20:39.53 | programmerq | I haven't been able to get minecraft-pi working either |
| 20:40.06 | programmerq | I've messed with the video memory split over and over and still no luck. |
| 20:57.53 | frostyfrog | A guru labs training session on IRC? @ eightyeight |
| 20:58.22 | eightyeight | :) |
| 20:58.29 | frostyfrog | Sounds interesting. |
| 20:58.32 | eightyeight | showing off IRC as part of the lecture on messaging |
| 20:58.39 | eightyeight | it's a basic linux introductory course |
| 20:58.53 | frostyfrog | Aah, I see. :3 |
| 20:59.32 | eightyeight | talked about write(1), wall(1), talk(1), and mesg(1) |
| 20:59.36 | eightyeight | then moved to IRC |
| 20:59.41 | eightyeight | then IM, email, ... |
| 20:59.56 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 21:00.13 | frostyfrog | The high level stuff :D |
| 21:00.25 | eightyeight | of course, i had to show off Mutt as well. :) |
| 21:04.41 | frostyfrog | wishes that they could've seen that. Not that I need it. Those kinds of things just tickle my inner geek. |
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| 23:10.11 | aeryndunham | is feeling a wide range of emotions |
| 23:15.48 | spangborn | What sorts of emotions? |
| 23:16.30 | aeryndunham | happiness about going home and not having to do this job anymore but also freaking out like what if I hate living on land |
| 23:17.11 | spangborn | Change is good, regardless |
| 23:17.18 | spangborn | Bound to be pros and cons |
| 23:17.21 | aeryndunham | yeah I know |
| 23:17.26 | aeryndunham | but I'm still freaking out |
| 23:19.40 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠when does your contract end? |
| 23:19.56 | aeryndunham | Tomorrow is my last day |
| 23:23.32 | TodPunk | .... |
| 23:23.46 | spangborn | dot dot dot dot to you, too |
| 23:23.55 | TodPunk | what if... you hate... living on land... |
| 23:24.00 | aeryndunham | is freaking out in good ways and bad ways and all the ways |
| 23:24.41 | TodPunk | Right now I'm sort of making that face with the Jackie Chan meme |
| 23:24.41 | aeryndunham | I just mean like. Now, I see Chris all the time. When we have vacation, we're off for weeks and weeks. It might just suck only ever getting a day off here and there now |
| 23:24.45 | programmerq | I remember it took a day or two to get used to the floor not moving |
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| 23:25.02 | TodPunk | This one: http://ragefaces.memesoftware.com/faces/large/misc-jackie-chan-l.png |
| 23:30.34 | aeryndunham | Uh, anyone have experience mass deleting Slack direct messages? |
| 23:30.49 | aeryndunham | has a couple threads that need to be gone before another guy takes over |
| 23:35.26 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠the other guy won't get his own account? |
| 23:35.36 | programmerq | if you are the sender, you can just click on the message and delete. |
| 23:35.42 | programmerq | I believe the slack admin will still see it. |
| 23:36.16 | aeryndunham | programmerq: nope |
| 23:36.54 | programmerq | yikes |
| 23:41.46 | programmerq | if I was a BOFH, I'd set up a constant feed of deleted slack messages to appear in some window |
| 23:42.54 | aeryndunham | I have to literally give the new guy a list of passwords for email and every system we use |
| 23:52.33 | programmerq | is the slack username something like @internethelpdesk or something like that? |
| 23:52.45 | programmerq | department of redundancy department |
| 23:53.50 | aeryndunham | well mine is @regal_jacki - it's all the ship's internet managers so we have to say who we are and the ship |
| 23:53.57 | aeryndunham | so he'll change it to @regal_andres |
| 23:54.55 | programmerq | weird. I guess slack changes per user account |
| 23:55.03 | programmerq | but it isn't that hard to create/disable accounts |
| 23:55.09 | programmerq | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:57.00 | aeryndunham | but we have the same email address, is the issue |
| 23:58.01 | aeryndunham | oh, wow |
| 23:58.21 | aeryndunham | I won a mediocre android phone at the company christmas raffle |
| 23:59.10 | aeryndunham | and I couldn't think of what to do with it |
| 23:59.20 | aeryndunham | but I heard that this one guy I've known for years on security staff needed a new phone |
| 23:59.26 | aeryndunham | (dude was running Android 2) |
| 23:59.33 | aeryndunham | so I just gave it to him and he cried |
