| 00:30.37 | TodPunk | It's time again: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/ |
| 00:35.30 | aeryndunham | gaaaaaah 20 more mins until I can leave |
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| 16:56.25 | spangborn | Wow, I guess Dick's in Gateway closed |
| 17:03.10 | unum | ya I read they were going to do that |
| 17:14.07 | jlp_znc | Gateway is a ghost town |
| 17:14.18 | spangborn | Full steam ahead into the iceberg |
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| 17:28.13 | unum | are they closing down the food court? |
| 17:28.23 | unum | we went there on Friday and there are three places left open |
| 17:28.41 | spangborn | Yes. |
| 17:28.47 | spangborn | There's only two, IIRC |
| 17:28.53 | spangborn | Panda and DQ |
| 17:28.58 | spangborn | And DQ will be closing as well. |
| 17:29.04 | spangborn | Panda is moving into Jason's Deli's old space |
| 17:29.27 | spangborn | Rumor has it that there's going to be a Dave and Buster-like place that takes over the food court |
| 17:29.47 | TodPunk | but not D&Bs? |
| 17:30.02 | TodPunk | because you kinda need to brand to be taken seriously as anything more than an arcade for kids |
| 17:31.25 | spangborn | I've heard claims it will be D&Bs, but I don't know anything about that |
| 17:31.42 | spangborn | They tried a similar concept at Gateway in the old Skybox space and it flopped after 3 months |
| 17:31.51 | spangborn | So I'm not so sure it'll work |
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| 17:46.43 | TodPunk | D&Bs closer to UofU would work better in my opinion |
| 17:47.02 | spangborn | Probably true |
| 17:48.17 | spangborn | I complained to Amazon about how long it takes them to ship items. They basically told me to deal with it. |
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| 19:02.17 | levi | ' |
| 19:02.19 | levi | '''''''' |
| 19:02.22 | levi | ' |
| 19:19.24 | levi | Whoops. |
| 19:21.19 | fungus | It's easier to type like this. 8===D |
| 19:26.21 | levi | I was removing some key caps to fix stickiness due to a soda spill and some keys got pressed. :P |
| 19:31.51 | fungus | sure, I believe that. I'll have to remember that next time I draw/type a representation like that. |
| 19:35.40 | levi | I'm just happy I didn't destroy the keyboard. |
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| 19:37.08 | romanovic | hah. someone at work just pointed out how depressing it is that we have only 3 company holidays between now and the 2017 holiday season |
| 19:37.55 | romanovic | memorial day, independence day, labor day. that's all :( |
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| 19:41.04 | romanovic | levi: what did you use to remove the key caps? |
| 19:41.35 | levi | Various tools from an i-fixit kit we've got in the office. |
| 19:41.37 | romanovic | needs to pop off the space bar on his das keyboard, has heard space bars are more difficult |
| 19:42.19 | levi | I didn't need to do space; shift was difficult though and is probably similar to space in that it's got a pair of scissors as well as a metal bar. |
| 19:46.01 | frostyfrog | Doing it while it's plugged in though, eh? |
| 19:47.09 | frostyfrog | Spacebars can be more difficult, depending on how the spacebase is put on. |
| 19:47.24 | frostyfrog | Balencing bars make it a bit more difficult to put back on. |
| 19:48.04 | frostyfrog | spacebar, not spacebase xD |
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| 20:13.20 | unum | it's easy on my unicomp |
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| 20:40.08 | youtah | howdy howdy |
| 20:44.59 | jima | spangborn: chrome on windows, linux, or other (aka osx)? |
| 20:45.06 | spangborn | Windows |
| 20:45.17 | spangborn | I can't even find the extension they shipped to me, either |
| 20:45.30 | jima | spangborn: chrome honors gpo, i'm surprised you're able to fight them at all |
| 20:45.32 | spangborn | Chrome prompted me if I wanted to enable it, because it had clearly just been dropped on the filesystem |
| 20:45.52 | jima | your IT folks aren't very good at chrome+gpo then |
| 20:45.53 | spangborn | They block updates, too |
| 20:46.08 | spangborn | Yeah, the enterprise IT folks are not very bright |
| 20:46.18 | spangborn | They shipped a wireless driver to my laptop last month that BSOD'd it |
| 20:46.21 | jima | tries to remember if he knows where spangborn works |
| 20:46.38 | levi | Our IT service is a perpetual source of delights as well. |
| 20:46.58 | jima | i thank my lucky stars that i've always been the IT department reponsible for my IT needs |
| 20:46.59 | spangborn | I'm just frustrated that I spend hours each week deleting and reinstalling Chrome so I don't have an old ersion |
| 20:47.13 | spangborn | I'm a web developer and need the latest version, but clearly they don't give a damn |
| 20:47.48 | levi | Their job is typically to not give a damn about anything but closing tickets. |
| 20:47.55 | spangborn | I installed a separate version of Chrome in my user directory and they screwed that one up too |
| 20:48.05 | spangborn | flings hands in air |
| 20:48.23 | levi | I feel your pain. |
| 20:48.24 | spangborn | Oddly, the Chrome extension they shipped is only on my laptop and not my VM |
| 20:48.28 | unum | ran updates and a node.js app broke |
| 20:48.29 | unum | blah |
| 20:48.32 | jlp_znc | portable chrome on a usb drive ftw |
| 20:48.40 | jima | spangborn: please procede to waving them like you just don't care |
| 20:48.42 | spangborn | jlp_znc: Well, unless they block access to USB drives |
| 20:48.46 | spangborn | Which they do |
| 20:48.54 | jlp_znc | ugh |
| 20:49.07 | spangborn | I could do it with an SD card though |
| 20:49.10 | jlp_znc | chrome on a bootable disc of some sort |
| 20:49.18 | spangborn | They haven't figured out that the card readers in the T440's aren't blocked |
| 20:49.25 | jlp_znc | they block usb, but not sd. how special. |
| 20:49.48 | jlp_znc | who do you work for again? I want to add them to my list of companies to never work for. |
| 20:50.00 | spangborn | Haha. A financial company with a pyramid for a logo |
| 20:50.29 | jima | ok, that's easy for me, i've already decided to avoid the financial sector. |
| 20:50.30 | jlp_znc | credit union? |
| 20:50.36 | spangborn | Investment firm |
| 20:50.47 | frostyfrog | ouch. |
| 20:50.57 | frostyfrog | They allow you to have VMs though? |
| 20:51.03 | spangborn | frostyfrog: Require |
| 20:51.10 | spangborn | I can't have source code outside of the VM |
| 20:51.10 | levi | A surprisingly large number of large, otherwise-okay companies have terrible IT departments. |
| 20:51.21 | frostyfrog | Including a small NAS VM which has windows shares that you could connect to? |
| 20:51.21 | spangborn | my laptop gets scanned daily |
| 20:51.32 | spangborn | If they find source on my laptop, terminated |
| 20:51.44 | spangborn | Which is funny because I'm primarily a JS/CSS developer ;p |
| 20:51.50 | jima | levi: it's not even that simple...i work for a company that has business units for which i would never, ever want to work. |
| 20:52.09 | spangborn | I should probably start looking elsewhere, honestly |
| 20:52.15 | frostyfrog | I find it interesting as well, seeing as they have you have a VM on the laptop with source code on it xD |
| 20:52.20 | spangborn | I'm fully vested in my 401k, so there's not much keeping me here |
| 20:52.24 | spangborn | frostyfrog: VM is hosted in a datacenter |
| 20:52.25 | jima | my business unit is great. the local subsidiary? hell. |
| 20:52.34 | frostyfrog | Oh, that makes a difference. |
| 20:52.44 | spangborn | Citrix VMs with Citrix Receiver to log into them. |
| 20:52.53 | jlp_znc | spangborn: but they let you use IRC. |
| 20:52.54 | levi | jima: Yeah, I know that story pretty well too. |
| 20:52.55 | spangborn | It's nice in the sense that I don't bring my work laptop home |
| 20:53.02 | spangborn | jlp_znc: That's what my iPad is for ;p |
| 20:53.22 | frostyfrog | iPad + IRC? *shudders* |
| 20:53.29 | jima | jlp_znc: s/let you use/can't stop you from using/ |
| 20:53.31 | frostyfrog | isn't a fan of mobile IRC clients. |
| 20:53.40 | spangborn | Palaver is relatively decent, frostyfrog |
| 20:53.43 | spangborn | And I've got a BT keyboard |
| 20:53.54 | spangborn | Palaver + ZNC gives me push notifications |
| 20:53.57 | frostyfrog | That would make it a lot better. |
| 20:54.16 | frostyfrog | needs to figure out how to get synergy to work on their phone. |
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| 20:54.45 | levi | One can get used to some pretty terrible UX stuff with a bit of patience. I mean, we all use Linux of some sort or other. :P |
| 20:55.11 | jima | levi: speak for yourself, foss-boy! |
| 20:56.45 | levi | Hey, I use plenty of non-Linux things as well. I'm typing on a MacBook, in fact, though the program I'm typing into is running on a Linux server. |
| 20:57.38 | jima | i'm on a three-display windows box right now. alas, if i were at the office, i'd be looking at three displays of windows, and three of linux. :-) |
| 20:57.41 | jima | (also: trolled.) |
| 20:57.53 | jlp_znc | me too, levi. |
| 20:58.05 | jlp_znc | mosh, tmux, and irssi are my friends. |
| 20:58.29 | jima | putty + screen + irssi here |
| 20:59.09 | levi | My work machines primarily run non-Windows OSes as the main OS because IT doesn't molest them constantly this way. |
| 20:59.26 | spangborn | levi: That was my strategy when I worked for a Raytheon company |
| 20:59.34 | spangborn | I ran Linux purely just to avoid meddling |
| 20:59.55 | jlp_znc | which Raytheon company did you work for? |
| 20:59.59 | jlp_znc | Sarcos? |
| 21:00.00 | spangborn | jlp_znc: AST |
| 21:00.12 | jlp_znc | ahh, I think we have talked about that before, now that you mention it. |
| 21:00.14 | levi | I often have Windows VMs for development purposes for embedded toolchains without Linux support. |
| 21:00.29 | spangborn | It was an interesting job. |
| 21:00.46 | spangborn | My only disappointment with it was that I was laid off before my clearance went through |
| 21:00.58 | jlp_znc | bummer |
| 21:01.20 | spangborn | Would have been nice to have a clearance as a resume item |
| 21:01.40 | aeryndunham | just finished deleting her bootcamp partition and now will obviously, for the first time in months, need Windows for something desperately in about 30 seconds :p |
| 21:01.56 | spangborn | aeryndunham: VMWare Fusion to the rescue |
| 21:02.00 | jlp_znc | my son is using his (reactivated) clearance after leaving the USAF |
| 21:02.08 | aeryndunham | spangborn: Hah, yeah |
| 21:02.12 | aeryndunham | I don't foresee myself needing it ever |
| 21:02.16 | jlp_znc | he's working for a contractor... for the USAF. and getting paid about twice as much. |
| 21:02.26 | spangborn | jlp_znc: After leaving somewhere that paid for it, are you required to pay for the renewal yourself? |
| 21:02.42 | jlp_znc | you just have to go somewhere that wants to reactivate it |
| 21:02.43 | spangborn | Hah, gov't contractors are great that way |
| 21:02.54 | aeryndunham | I was actually entertaining the idea of dual booting opensuse and macos, but I don't think I have the drive space still |
| 21:02.54 | jlp_znc | as long as it's within a year, they don't have to do anything special. |
| 21:03.03 | spangborn | Ah, so it's usually tied to an employer wanting it |
| 21:03.06 | levi | VirtualBox works fine on MacOS; it's what I use for my Windows VMs on here. |
| 21:03.19 | spangborn | I'm just wondering if you could maintain the clearance on your own, but I'm sure it's expensive |
| 21:03.22 | jlp_znc | always tied to an employer needing it |
| 21:03.30 | spangborn | I seem to remember AST quoting a cost of like $50K or something |
| 21:03.58 | aeryndunham | levi: yeah, it's what I'm running opensuse in now |
| 21:04.02 | jlp_znc | it's not cheap, but usually the company pushes that cost into the contract. |
| 21:04.09 | spangborn | Yeah, as you do |
| 21:04.32 | spangborn | I remember new contracts at AST paying for new machines and such, too |
| 21:04.54 | spangborn | if you got put on a new contract, you got a bunch of new hardware to play with! |
| 21:05.02 | jlp_znc | it's my understanding that as soon as you terminate employment, your clearance is turned off, but it can be reactivated within a year without having to do much. |
| 21:05.09 | spangborn | Interesting. |
| 21:05.19 | jlp_znc | after that year, you have to requalify. |
| 21:05.31 | jlp_znc | and I suspect some things depend on the level of the clearance, too. |
| 21:05.31 | spangborn | I know a civilian that somehow has clearance maintained, but it's probably because he still does contract work for DoD here and there |
| 21:05.41 | jima | jlp_znc: yeah, that's why you jump ship rather than get terminated. ;-) |
| 21:05.43 | jlp_znc | my son had TS SCI full poly |
| 21:06.05 | jima | jlp_znc: you probably just violated it, you insensitive clod ;-) |
| 21:06.08 | jlp_znc | terminating can be done from either side, jima. in HR land, it's the same thing. |
| 21:06.34 | jima | jlp_znc: yeah, i just know a lot of recruiters look for clearanced folks |
| 21:06.42 | jlp_znc | there's a web site devoted to helping people with inactive clearances get new jobs. |
| 21:06.54 | jlp_znc | I think it's clearancejobs.com or something like that |
| 21:07.05 | jima | wow |
| 21:07.08 | spangborn | My only regret is really not getting the clearance |
| 21:07.19 | spangborn | Well, because having clearance means you've been fairly well personally vetted |
| 21:07.31 | jima | my former network lackey came from .mil, worked for us for ~2 years, then jumped ship for a contractor |
| 21:07.52 | spangborn | The clearance process is pretty ruthless |
| 21:08.12 | jlp_znc | yeah, when he was leaving the USAF, he applied for a few jobs and this one snapped him up with only a phone interview. |
| 21:08.19 | spangborn | I got grilled about one of my friends who was getting clearance in the Navy |
| 21:08.26 | spangborn | They showed up at my door and asked a bunch of questions |
| 21:08.53 | spangborn | I wouldn't mind working for a DoD contractor again. |
| 21:09.05 | jlp_znc | phone interview consisted of "what's your AFSC? you're getting an honorable discharge? here |
| 21:09.13 | jlp_znc | have a wad of money and move to Vegas" |
| 21:09.16 | spangborn | Haha, nice |
| 21:09.36 | spangborn | Nellis would be a fun place to work, I'd think |
| 21:09.41 | RyanE | yeah, except for the Vegas part. |
| 21:09.52 | spangborn | There are areas outside of the Strip that are nice :) |
| 21:10.01 | jlp_znc | he's not at Nellis... at some dump base north and west of Vegas in Indian Springs. |
| 21:10.02 | RyanE | agreed |
| 21:10.05 | spangborn | I could even tolerate the heat |
| 21:10.20 | spangborn | Ah bumer. |
| 21:10.23 | spangborn | *bummer |
| 21:10.26 | jlp_znc | obviously he can't talk about what he does, but apparently the users there are just as clueless as everywhere else. |
| 21:10.36 | spangborn | Haha, aren't all users clueless? ;) |
| 21:10.47 | spangborn | (Says the UX/UI developer) |
| 21:10.48 | jima | universal truth. |
| 21:10.57 | jlp_znc | Creech AFB |
| 21:11.36 | spangborn | Haven't even heard of that one! |
| 21:12.15 | levi | It is a truth universally acknowledged that a user with access to a computer service must be in want of a clue. |
| 21:12.31 | jlp_znc | apparently they do a lot of UAV stuff there |
| 21:20.23 | jima | last place i saw UAV stuff being done was about here: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9262222,-93.3923361,20.13z |
| 21:20.47 | jima | granted, it was probably 1998 or so, and that building to the north was alliant techsystems back then. |
| 21:21.12 | spangborn | Good ol' Minnesota |
| 21:21.31 | jima | but yes, they were operating a drone on a public roadway in plain view of the public. |
| 21:21.57 | spangborn | Well that's because nobody lives in Minnesota |
| 21:22.34 | jima | spangborn: funny words coming from a utahn. |
| 21:22.47 | spangborn | I wasn't born here \o/ |
| 21:22.59 | spangborn | I was born somewhere worse, hah |
| 21:23.35 | jlp_znc | Minnesota, home of Ole and Sven! |
| 21:23.46 | jima | i wasn't born here, either...i was born in a state with nearly double the population of utah. :-P |
| 21:24.01 | jlp_znc | don' cha know |
| 21:24.15 | jima | ja, sure, you betcha |
| 21:24.27 | spangborn | My wife grew up in MN, heh |
| 21:24.30 | jlp_znc | was born seven timezones away from utah |
| 21:24.42 | jima | on the plus side, you're more likely to be mistaken for a canadian when traveling abroad. |
| 21:24.47 | spangborn | I was born in the lovely PNW |
| 21:24.56 | jlp_znc | but I did live in Minnesota for a while |
| 21:25.02 | jlp_znc | and my dad is from there |
| 21:25.17 | levi | I was born in Montana |
| 21:25.20 | jima | i'm from there, but my dad wasn't. |
| 21:25.37 | spangborn | Seems like a lot of Minnesotans end up in Utah |
| 21:25.42 | jlp_znc | I lived in Montana for a while, too... '73 - '87 |
| 21:25.57 | jima | i lived in MN for almost 30 years. |
| 21:26.14 | spangborn | My wife spent most of her childhood in Duluth |
| 21:26.28 | spangborn | Which is a marvelous place when it's not frozen solid. |
| 21:26.30 | jlp_znc | yeah, I lived in Duluth. it was cold. |
| 21:26.50 | jima | i've never been to duluth. |
| 21:26.56 | jlp_znc | I have a cousin who lives there... she teaches at the university. |
| 21:27.02 | jlp_znc | you haven't missed much, jima |
| 21:27.28 | jlp_znc | so, you know that Ole and Lena got married and were on their way to the twin cities for their honeymoon... |
| 21:27.28 | jima | not to say i haven't been "up nort'"...i've been to eveleth. |
| 21:27.54 | jlp_znc | Ole put his hand on Lena's knee and she smiled and said "Oh, Ole, ve are married now. You can go farder dan dat." |
| 21:27.57 | spangborn | Visit Duluth in the summer |
| 21:27.58 | jlp_znc | so Ole drove on to Duluth |
| 21:28.05 | spangborn | lol |
| 21:28.23 | spangborn | That joke never gets old |
| 21:28.50 | jima | ole and lena jokes have a certain timelessness. |
| 21:28.56 | jlp_znc | indeed. |
| 21:28.57 | spangborn | I need more jlp_znc jokes in my life and fewer youtah jokes |
| 21:29.11 | youtah | waht |
| 21:29.16 | youtah | you dont like porn in your lungs? |
| 21:29.24 | spangborn | youtah: tbh, that was a good one |
| 21:29.35 | spangborn | You do occasionally hit home runs, but you wiff a lot too ;p |
| 21:29.45 | jlp_znc | my daughter's favorite was the one where Sven saw Ole and said "Hey, Ole! I heard you vas down in da bottom of da outhouse da udder day." |
| 21:30.07 | youtah | I just backed a kick starter |
| 21:30.24 | jlp_znc | and Ole responded "Vell, ja, you know, I dropped a couple of quarters in dere, so I quickly trew my vallet and vatch down dere, too." |
| 21:30.30 | youtah | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003718989/flowmotion-smartphone-stabilizer-the-end-of-shaky?ref=user_menu |
| 21:30.38 | jlp_znc | puzzled, Sven asked "Vy vould you do dat?" |
| 21:30.55 | jlp_znc | and Ole responded "Vell, I vasn't goin' to go down dere for yust fifty cents!" |
| 21:32.32 | spangborn | youtah: But does it fix vertical video? |
| 21:32.57 | youtah | it explodes |
| 21:32.59 | youtah | killing the user |
| 21:33.05 | spangborn | I'd say that fixes it |
| 21:33.09 | youtah | lol |
| 21:35.23 | levi | Whee, I hadn't started my Windows VM in a while and now it no longer has machine credentials for me to log in or something. :P |
| 21:35.49 | RyanE | youtah: I'd say that one looks like a winner. i.e. no software whatsoever. :) |
| 21:36.22 | youtah | it does have an optional app |
| 21:36.28 | aeryndunham | I booted up my Windows 3.1 VM the other day who said he'd never seen a computer older than Windows XP (one of the dancers who helps me in here) |
| 21:36.30 | youtah | however I probably wont use it |
| 21:37.05 | spangborn | lol Win 3.1 VM |
| 21:37.13 | spangborn | Did you play some Oregon Trail? |
| 21:37.14 | aeryndunham | I set it up for the lulz, obviously |
| 21:37.22 | jlp_znc | not even 3.1.4? |
| 21:37.24 | aeryndunham | I should have |
| 21:37.25 | jlp_znc | just base 3.1? |
| 21:37.36 | aeryndunham | hmm I am actually not sure! |
| 21:37.42 | aeryndunham | how would I check? |
| 21:38.10 | jlp_znc | I don't remember |
| 21:39.32 | jlp_znc | I guess it was 3.1 (4) |
| 21:39.36 | jlp_znc | or something like that |
| 21:39.40 | jlp_znc | it was a long time ago |
| 21:41.11 | aeryndunham | http://imgur.com/a/6kIjU - looks like it's just 3.1! |
| 21:41.49 | jlp_znc | heh, contact your hardware manufacturer for technical support. good luck with that. |
| 21:42.02 | aeryndunham | lol yeah |
| 21:46.33 | frostyfrog | contacts self for technical support. |
| 21:46.56 | spangborn | self.support() |
| 21:47.20 | aeryndunham | I'm trying to help an internet manager on another ship troubleshoot a problem and I just had to teach him how to open a command prompt and ping something |
| 21:47.21 | aeryndunham | headdesks |
| 21:47.35 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Did you teach him how to tunnel traffic over ICMP? |
| 21:47.56 | aeryndunham | lol |
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| 21:49.45 | frostyfrog | win+rcmd<enter>ping 8.8.8.8<enter> |
| 21:50.04 | spangborn | Where's the any key? |
| 21:50.31 | frostyfrog | My favorite packet issue happened over christmas break. |
| 21:51.18 | aeryndunham | I do have better access to troubleshoot than the other internet managers though, I can read the firewall logs and I have a vnc connction to the satellite graph, neither of which I am really supposed to have |
| 21:51.39 | frostyfrog | My laptop couldn't run a traceroute to google's DNS server, got to the edge of Comcast's network then disappeared. My other machines on the network, however, could reach it just fine. |
| 21:52.24 | frostyfrog | But you need to have them, right aeryndunham? Otherwise you're job wouldn't be as easy, right? ;) |
| 21:52.39 | aeryndunham | frostyfrog: The satellite graph in particular is super helpful |
| 21:52.45 | aeryndunham | it doesn't make peopel any less dumb |
| 21:53.02 | frostyfrog | No, no. of course not. |
| 21:53.08 | spangborn | youtah: Did you see Dick's is pulling out of Gateway? |
| 21:53.14 | spangborn | runs from the joke |
| 21:53.16 | frostyfrog | It does, however, make it easier to troubleshoot. |
| 21:53.28 | aeryndunham | frostyfrog: Yup. I can see pretty easily if it's a bandwidth problem. |
| 21:53.44 | spangborn | Satellite graph sounds fascinating, actually |
| 21:54.56 | aeryndunham | I'll take a screenshot devoid of any identifying info, one sec |
| 21:55.26 | spangborn | Awh youtah didn't even see my joke before his crappy work connection died |
| 21:55.44 | spangborn | aeryndunham: You don't have to, I just think it's probably an interesting thing :) |
| 21:56.11 | aeryndunham | http://imgur.com/a/gGKkZ |
| 21:56.53 | aeryndunham | Green is download, blue line is up |
| 21:57.16 | spangborn | Surprisingly high |
| 21:57.34 | aeryndunham | This is the biggest ship in the fleet, we have more bandwidth than the others |
| 21:57.45 | aeryndunham | Some ships gets like 12 |
| 21:58.32 | frostyfrog | Compared to a comcast home line, that's some decent usage. :3 |
| 21:58.42 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 21:59.14 | frostyfrog | can force everyone off their home network by uploading a Youtube vid at ~5MB/s |
| 22:01.04 | aeryndunham | runs for dinner. |
| 22:01.17 | spangborn | Oh hey look it's 3PM |
| 22:01.42 | frostyfrog | would say that it's an odd time for dinner, but that cruise line isn't anywhere near MST. |
| 22:04.50 | jholtom | Man I should pull out my usage graphs |
| 22:06.02 | frostyfrog | 's usage graphs aren't the best >_> |
| 22:07.45 | jholtom | They're pretty ridiculous |
| 22:08.12 | frostyfrog | I'm already at 14% of my monthly data cap from comcast... |
| 22:09.00 | spangborn | I've determined if Centurylink enforced their cap, I'd hit it every month |
| 22:09.02 | TodPunk | has no data cap anymore |
| 22:09.10 | spangborn | I average 550GB a month |
| 22:09.21 | frostyfrog | o.o |
| 22:09.23 | frostyfrog | I wish |
| 22:10.02 | spangborn | I'd assume Netflix, HBO GO and Spotify impact that pretty heavily |
| 22:10.15 | frostyfrog | Dec '16 - 1.13 TiB |
| 22:10.33 | frostyfrog | Nov '16 - 1.22 TiB |
| 22:11.11 | frostyfrog | I don't know what happened in May. That one was nice. |
| 22:19.17 | frostyfrog | nevermind. I don't know what happened AFTER may... |
| 22:20.20 | Migs | Centurylink has a cap? |
| 22:20.48 | spangborn | Migs: Yep, an unenforced one |
| 22:21.46 | spangborn | http://www.centurylink.com/aboutus/legal/internetservicemanagement.html |
| 22:21.54 | spangborn | They're trialing enforcing it in Yakima, WA |
| 22:24.26 | jholtom | Haha |
| 22:24.52 | spangborn | Oh maybe I wouldn't hit it every month |
| 22:24.54 | spangborn | I'd be close, though |
| 22:24.59 | spangborn | 600GB is what my cap would be |
| 22:25.43 | Migs | lol, why Yakima, Washington? |
| 22:25.54 | spangborn | Not a clue |
| 22:26.34 | jholtom | Today - 17.8Gb |
| 22:26.43 | jholtom | Last 30 days - 1.6TB |
| 22:27.36 | frostyfrog | yesterday: 71.82 GiB |
| 22:27.37 | spangborn | I'm already at 46GB for the month |
| 22:27.38 | spangborn | heh |
| 22:28.09 | spangborn | http://i.imgur.com/VgAJLKE.jpg |
| 22:29.29 | spangborn | T-Mobile rolling out gigabit LTE apparently: https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/network-myth-busting.htm |
| 22:37.41 | frostyfrog | http://ix.io/1P56 |
| 22:38.09 | jholtom | Good, you're up there with me :) |
| 22:40.18 | frostyfrog | Granted, they're shown in TiB but comcast measures in TB. So that 1.99 TiB? 2.1 TB |
| 22:40.36 | frostyfrog | At least, for the big numbers. |
| 22:42.27 | TodPunk | I don't think I have graphs for my "router" |
| 22:42.37 | TodPunk | I should probably start RRDing that or something |
| 22:43.12 | spangborn | I set up two IP cameras last month, so my usage will probably only increase from there |
| 22:44.25 | jholtom | Oh I run a virtual UTM appliance as my router |
| 22:44.54 | spangborn | I got RTSP streaming working on them, and wondering if I should bother with Zoneminder |
| 22:45.10 | frostyfrog | Mine's a dedicated linux box in a Micro(?) ATX enclosure. |
| 22:45.26 | frostyfrog | Zoneminder? |
| 22:45.43 | spangborn | https://zoneminder.com/ |
| 22:46.10 | TodPunk | Zoneminder needs a rewrite to be caught up to the current decade |
| 22:46.26 | spangborn | TodPunk: That's my thought :/ |
| 22:46.36 | spangborn | But there's not really anything better out there presently |
| 22:46.36 | TodPunk | cameras aren't often mjpeg streams captured one frame at a time anymore |
| 22:47.00 | TodPunk | Well, you're a dev, hop to it, get something nitty gritty going |
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| 23:30.14 | romanovic | I got my new Ring Doorbell installed... but no video ever comes through the mobile app. I know the video is recording, because Ring stores the recorded video properly |
| 23:30.47 | romanovic | Isolated it to our router, if I swap out the router for an older one we have laying around, everything works fine |
| 23:31.23 | romanovic | but I want to use my newer fancy router, and I can't figure out what setting would prevent our mobile devices from receiving the streaming Ring video (tested on both iOS and android) |
| 23:32.12 | programmerq | check your router's IGMP snooping and/or WMM settings? |
| 23:36.35 | romanovic | I'll have to double check when I get home. my router came with dd-wrt firmware, which is awesome, but I'm confused why a dirt cheap 7 yr old netgear router with default settings allows traffic through, and my dd-wrt router does not... |
| 23:37.34 | romanovic | actually my "newer" router is 5 yrs old as well, but it sure is a lot easier to configure the way I want, when I know what I'm doing |
| 23:45.14 | programmerq | I think wmm might be asus only |
| 23:47.29 | TodPunk | romanovic: UPNP? |
| 23:48.38 | TodPunk | also, this may be relevant: https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/205385394-What-Ports-Do-I-Need-to-Open-in-My-Firewall-for-Ring-Doorbells-and-Chimes- |
| 23:49.04 | romanovic | I don't see any attempted connections in the upnp table dd-wrt shows me. I've made sure it is enabled though. |
| 23:49.34 | romanovic | yeah, I looked at those, and tried explicitly forwarding every one of those ports, including ports both on the ring device and my mobile device. no worky |
| 23:51.40 | romanovic | but my older router, with no port forwarding and whatever its default upnp settings are, seems to work just fine. and my newer router isn't blocking any of those ports afaik. ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
