| 00:34.45 | jholtom | So my turbo diesel f250 finally ate through its transmission.... Anyone have a favorite transmission shop along the Wasatch front? |
| 00:40.20 | jholtom | I would do it myself but I don't have a garage |
| 00:41.36 | jholtom | And it's winter time |
| 00:46.32 | TodPunk | jholtom: I just got mine rebuilt 8 months ago at Gears in Lehi |
| 00:46.53 | TodPunk | If you don't want a rebuild, uh, whomever, really |
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| 02:36.49 | jholtom | Haha this thing couldn't be rebuilt if you tried |
| 02:36.55 | jholtom | It's gonna be a junkyard swap |
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| 15:17.16 | unum | I need to figure out why this server keeps freezing |
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| 16:01.20 | aeryndunham | Morning! |
| 16:11.04 | RyanE | howdy |
| 16:11.33 | spangborn | hola |
| 16:11.44 | aeryndunham | how's everyone? |
| 16:11.48 | jholtom | tired |
| 16:11.50 | jholtom | how are you |
| 16:12.03 | aeryndunham | also tired |
| 16:12.03 | aeryndunham | but fine |
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| 16:30.37 | RyanE | so do you have to help get people onboard, along with Internets Cafes? |
| 16:30.54 | RyanE | Seems the onboarding/offboarding process uses a lot of people. |
| 16:32.24 | aeryndunham | I don't know, but you're right, a lot of people are involved in embarkation/disembarkation |
| 16:33.11 | aeryndunham | I mean I don't |
| 16:33.14 | aeryndunham | not I don't know |
| 16:33.22 | aeryndunham | don't know why I typed that |
| 16:34.30 | RyanE | you are filled with self doubt, grasshopper. |
| 16:34.44 | aeryndunham | that's true |
| 16:34.46 | aeryndunham | :p |
| 16:35.00 | RyanE | that's pretty much a universal truth for all humanity. :) |
| 16:35.08 | RyanE | except trump |
| 16:35.12 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 16:35.16 | spangborn | he's just better at hiding it |
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| 16:45.04 | aeryndunham | I'm not sure if it's cool or annoying that the only way to get answers out of the Massachusetts Health Insurance Connector is to tweet at thrm |
| 17:00.39 | frostyfrog | Hey, at least you can get answers. I generally expect when I ask a company some questions that I won't get answers back x3 |
| 17:02.12 | aeryndunham | true |
| 17:12.10 | programmerq | My bank wasn't using TLS on their landing page. I called support who told me it was fine because they had a picture of a lock "yes, I see the picture of a lock on your insecure site" |
| 17:12.14 | programmerq | finally had to tweet at them. |
| 17:12.23 | programmerq | and the twitter person said it was fine too. |
| 17:12.35 | programmerq | more recently, they finally secured their landing/login page. |
| 17:16.20 | frostyfrog | x3 |
| 17:16.32 | frostyfrog | At least they got it fixed. |
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| 17:20.47 | aeryndunham | Ok. Sorted. I shall have health insurance. I'm pretty sure. :p |
| 17:23.59 | aeryndunham | goes for lunch |
| 17:33.16 | TodPunk | programmerq: "bank" |
| 17:33.32 | programmerq | BB&T |
| 17:34.18 | TodPunk | what an odd bank name |
| 17:34.37 | TodPunk | For being "one of the largest financial services institutions" I sure have never heard of them before now |
| 17:36.13 | programmerq | they aren't really here in utah |
| 17:38.27 | spangborn | programmerq: SmugMug had an issue with that. |
| 17:38.34 | spangborn | I reported it, waited a year, still the same. |
| 17:38.46 | spangborn | So I produced a POC that would steal the password. |
| 17:38.49 | spangborn | Then it got fixed |
| 17:39.18 | programmerq | yeah, I thought about doing that |
| 17:39.55 | spangborn | Somehow their CEO got involved |
| 17:40.09 | spangborn | Their "security engineer" told me "It's posting to HTTPS, so it's fine" |
| 17:42.17 | programmerq | yeah, that's the usual excuse. |
| 17:43.33 | spangborn | Apparently MITM'ing a login form doesn't happen in the real world |
| 17:45.09 | programmerq | when I was at BYU (2007-2008ish?), someone in the security lab did a project on that attack. They put up a poster listing vulnerable sites, including the BYU route Y login page. |
| 17:45.22 | spangborn | lol |
| 17:45.28 | programmerq | some prof walked by the poster and went nuts. made the CS dept take it down |
| 17:45.36 | programmerq | but route y actually fixed the problem. |
| 17:45.46 | spangborn | I had a pretty good idea of how to get them to fix it if they didn't budge |
| 17:46.11 | spangborn | There's a photographer conference in Vegas. Setup a fake hotspot, MITM the login, and add a warning to the login page stating it wasn't secure. |
| 17:46.31 | programmerq | lol |
| 18:11.57 | unum | I need to rename a bunch of tables and columns in a database |
| 18:12.06 | unum | I'm thinking for now I may just set up a view with the new names |
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| 18:30.11 | aeryndunham | OK, afternoon break time. Advent of Code, I WILL break you. |
| 18:31.08 | spangborn | Go go aeryndunham |
| 18:32.07 | aeryndunham | At this point I'm obviously just going at my own pace; hopefully the site stays up after Christmas. Cause I'll never catch up now :p |
| 18:33.41 | programmerq | I didn't realize there was a part 2 on day 1 or 2 |
| 18:35.24 | aeryndunham | I'm still stuck on day 1 part 1 |
| 18:35.27 | aeryndunham | oh well |
| 18:37.01 | jholtom | there are still all the old questions from 2015, so it'll stay up :) |
| 18:37.30 | aeryndunham | oh good |
| 18:44.44 | jholtom | you could even start with those if you wanted :P |
| 18:45.03 | aeryndunham | I could |
| 18:45.14 | aeryndunham | but this "how many blocks away" problem has made me so angry |
| 18:45.18 | aeryndunham | that I at least need to crack this one |
| 18:52.19 | frostyfrog | Good luck, we're rooting for you! (well, at least some of us are...) |
| 18:52.36 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 18:52.38 | aeryndunham | thanks |
| 18:57.07 | aeryndunham | I think I could make some good progress if I could just figure out how to, in a list item like 'L5', get it to separate the direction from the number. I can't figure out what to search for to get this information... |
| 18:58.50 | frostyfrog | (unrelated, the satelite books in this bundle look soooo coool! https://www.humblebundle.com/books/science-and-discovery-book-bundle I just don't want to spend $7,000+ to get a picosatelite into space. As if I had that kind of money in the first place...) |
| 18:59.03 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 18:59.07 | jholtom | frostyfrog: what do you want to put in space? |
| 18:59.15 | aeryndunham | I love humble book bundles; I bought the linux/unix one |
| 18:59.26 | frostyfrog | $9 CHIP... >_> |
| 18:59.34 | jholtom | I currently make small boxes in space talk to the earth |
| 19:00.33 | frostyfrog | small boxes? o.o |
| 19:00.36 | jholtom | a small chip would be fun to see what happens if it goes to space |
| 19:00.45 | jholtom | small boxes = small satellites |
| 19:02.27 | jholtom | I don't think I can fit a CHIP on our current mission though :( |
| 19:05.52 | jholtom | frostyfrog: space is great! get the books anyways, very fun to read |
| 19:06.49 | frostyfrog | I was having fun just reading the preview of the DIY satelites! :D |
| 19:08.14 | jholtom | its actually pretty easy to get space on a sounding rocket |
| 19:08.19 | jholtom | if you want to go a little ways to space |
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| 19:26.34 | frostyfrog | I'd just be interested in "can I do this? I did it? Cooool" xD |
| 19:26.38 | frostyfrog | wonders if anyone working on the Daplie thing uses IRC on a regular basis. |
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| 19:46.05 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Are all of the directions a single character? |
| 19:46.41 | aeryndunham | spangborn: The direction is, yeah. Always just R or L. And I think I've just gotten there. I need to slice. Yeah? |
| 19:47.53 | spangborn | Yep. You could also use a Regular expression, but that's probably overkill |
| 19:48.07 | spangborn | Are you using Python? |
| 19:48.36 | aeryndunham | yeah |
| 19:48.48 | spangborn | Yep, then I think you've got the right idea |
| 19:50.19 | aeryndunham | spangborn: I clearly forgot the list splicing was a thing. |
| 19:50.28 | aeryndunham | at the very least this will all be very educational |
| 19:53.45 | spangborn | frostyfrog: I just can't wait for that company to stop making the hard drives |
| 19:53.49 | spangborn | and then you're screwed |
| 19:54.18 | spangborn | "Welp, my Daplie drive died and I can't buy any more of them because the business folded after 6 months" |
| 19:54.44 | frostyfrog | ^ Yeah, that's a bit of a worry. |
| 19:55.26 | spangborn | Or they just mark the drives up like 5x |
| 19:55.35 | spangborn | and then you're stuck with vendor lock-in |
| 20:09.42 | frostyfrog | That's actually the same thing that I'm worried about with my Pebble Time that I recently got. :s |
| 20:10.18 | spangborn | frostyfrog: if you're on Android, GadgetBridge should remedy most of that |
| 20:10.32 | spangborn | frostyfrog: But you're probably right (I moderate /r/pebble) ;p |
| 20:10.48 | frostyfrog | GadgetBridge, eh? I'll take a look into it. Thanks! :D |
| 20:11.01 | spangborn | Supposed to be some official news today, who knows what it'll be |
| 20:12.19 | spangborn | I'm guessing it's not going to quell your fears at all. Pebble appears to have burned through an obscene amount of cash and done almost nothing with it |
| 20:12.25 | frostyfrog | Hopefully there is. I'm a little sick of seeing all of the worrysome posts on the web. I don't care too much for speculation of bad things. |
| 20:12.27 | spangborn | I'm just going to be disappointed if the Pebble Core dies |
| 20:12.44 | spangborn | I was most excited about a little tiny hackable computer |
| 20:12.48 | frostyfrog | Pebble core definitely looked interesting. |
| 20:12.51 | spangborn | Even if it's Android ;p |
| 20:12.58 | frostyfrog | x3 |
| 20:13.24 | spangborn | Who knows, maybe it'll be good news. Hard to tell. |
| 20:14.10 | spangborn | I think the best thing about Pebble is the developer community they fostered. |
| 20:14.38 | spangborn | It's an easy, low barrier to entry platform and that made it fun to work on |
| 20:16.02 | frostyfrog | Yeah, I saw their developer docs. Just a quick glance and it made me think that they made it easy to write apps for it in C or JS(?). I was fairly impressed. |
| 20:16.35 | spangborn | Yeah, the future JS stuff they were working on was pretty sweet, too |
| 20:16.54 | spangborn | Running JS on the watch was pretty impressive |
| 20:30.14 | aeryndunham | omg I did it |
| 20:30.30 | spangborn | woot! |
| 20:31.16 | frostyfrog | Awesome! :D |
| 20:33.13 | aeryndunham | https://gist.github.com/jackimurphy/ec0bf4bb80671ffe3972a5197016bfee for the really bad python :p |
| 20:37.47 | aeryndunham | I mean it got me the right answer so I guess the code isn't THAT bad :p |
| 20:39.21 | spangborn | It doesn't look bad |
| 20:39.30 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: Good job! |
| 20:39.36 | spangborn | I mean, you can always optimize things, but if it gets you the solution, then it's good :) |
| 20:39.55 | aeryndunham | I'm pretty sure global variables are bad but oh well |
| 20:40.13 | SunSparc | I am doing it in golang. Lots of fun. Doing code projects like this is a great way to keep the programming saw sharp. |
| 20:40.26 | spangborn | SunSparc: Shh, don't tell TodPunk |
| 20:40.38 | aeryndunham | SunSparc: golang looks cool |
| 20:40.46 | TodPunk | no no, I'm cool with him doing it in golang |
| 20:40.51 | aeryndunham | Python is the only language I have any proficiency in |
| 20:41.02 | aeryndunham | and by proficiency I mean it took me 5 days to write that :p |
| 20:41.31 | TodPunk | nice, aeryndunham |
| 20:43.10 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: Better late than never :) |
| 20:43.17 | aeryndunham | yep |
| 20:43.21 | SunSparc | I am glad I have the approval of TodPunk. |
| 20:43.34 | aeryndunham | Would have been fun to be on pace with everyone else doing the challenge, but that's ok |
| 20:45.35 | frostyfrog | You're farther than me, I'll give you that ;) |
| 20:45.37 | RyanE | spangborn: I think you were the one who convinced me to get a Pebble Time Kickstarter. Still love it. |
| 20:45.41 | frostyfrog | hasn't bothered starting. |
| 20:45.48 | RyanE | I want the Pebble Time 2, for the bigger display... Old eyes. :) |
| 20:47.52 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: golang IS cool. I really like it. Though I still use python for some things. |
| 20:50.16 | aeryndunham | I won't even think about picking up another language until the mythical day when basic python programs don't make me want to cry :p |
| 20:52.00 | SunSparc | Want a tip? Program something every day. No matter how small. If you do just that, your skill and confidence will soar very quickly. |
| 20:53.51 | aeryndunham | nods |
| 20:54.02 | aeryndunham | I've been meaning to make myself do something like that |
| 20:54.17 | aeryndunham | which is a lot of why I so badly want to make it through this advent of code thing |
| 20:54.28 | aeryndunham | it's something I want to be good at |
| 20:54.37 | aeryndunham | or, well, decent at |
| 20:55.06 | SunSparc | Even if you do not finish by Christmas, keep working on it all until you get to the end, then do it all again. :) |
| 20:55.10 | aeryndunham | sigh, gotta go back to work. and it'll be too busy to IRC from work today |
| 20:55.31 | SunSparc | Have a fun day! |
| 20:55.44 | aeryndunham | I'll try! Thanks! |
| 20:55.48 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:02.42 | spangborn | RyanE: Time 2 might be dead in the water :( |
| 21:04.01 | spangborn | ~lart youtah |
| 21:04.01 | infobot | crushes youtah with a full height scsi disk |
| 21:14.06 | frostyfrog | Time 2 looked cool. I would've pre-ordered it. |
| 21:15.06 | spangborn | I did, and am holding out hope that it might exist at some point |
| 21:18.56 | RyanE | spangborn: Geez, I sure hope not. |
| 21:21.04 | TodPunk | enjoys his Pebble Time |
| 21:21.31 | TodPunk | Though it's made me painfully aware of how little sleep I get |
| 21:24.23 | frostyfrog | ^ |
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| 21:27.13 | frostyfrog | It's also helped me to realize that I have *juuuust* enough deep sleep to make it through the day. :3 |
| 21:44.17 | SunSparc | I figure, I will sleep when I am dead. |
| 21:44.23 | SunSparc | Or at least my body will... |
| 21:52.26 | RyanE | I don't leave it on at night, but the steps always show higher than my wife's FitBit, which is fun. :) |
| 21:52.41 | RyanE | What??? You haven't walked 8000 steps!!!! Mine only shows 7400!!!! |
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| 22:29.34 | SunSparc | :) |
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