| 00:00.09 | SunSparc | Yeah, my two-year-old might get bored with that task. |
| 00:00.56 | aeryndunham | tries not to handle people's phones/tablets if she can help it |
| 00:01.55 | SunSparc | Who know where those things have been. Nasty. |
| 00:02.05 | aeryndunham | Exactly |
| 00:02.18 | SunSparc | Hope you have some touch capacitive rubber gloves. |
| 00:03.15 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 00:03.16 | aeryndunham | I wish |
| 00:03.57 | SunSparc | Or at least something to sanitize afterwards. |
| 00:04.57 | aeryndunham | That I do have |
| 00:05.04 | SunSparc | +1 |
| 00:39.55 | aeryndunham | dangit, the gift I want to get my mom is out of stock |
| 00:52.55 | aeryndunham | owwww paper cut |
| 01:01.07 | spangborn | I hear lemon juice helps those |
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| 17:48.37 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 17:50.00 | spangborn | lol windoze http://blog.win-fu.com/2016/11/every-windows-10-in-place-upgrade-is.html |
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| 18:15.57 | aeryndunham | waves |
| 18:16.07 | spangborn | waves |
| 18:17.53 | aeryndunham | spangborn: How are you? |
| 18:18.12 | spangborn | aeryndunham: pretty well, and yourself? |
| 18:22.07 | aeryndunham | spangborn: At work |
| 18:22.14 | spangborn | Haha, when are you not? ;p |
| 18:22.28 | aeryndunham | haha never |
| 18:26.04 | aeryndunham | we work 7 days a week for our entire contract, and we work a lot |
| 18:26.09 | aeryndunham | luckily I can have my laptop with me |
| 18:27.24 | spangborn | And you get to sleep sometimes, I'm sure |
| 18:28.15 | spangborn | Just learned that Gateway's food court is closing. Interesting |
| 18:28.35 | aeryndunham | spangborn: I slept until 9 today, it was glorious |
| 18:28.53 | spangborn | Is it difficult keeping your clocks in sync? |
| 18:29.11 | spangborn | I'd imagine with all of the time-zone traveling it would be a bit tedious |
| 18:31.21 | frostyfrog | Much time at all to play with new tech? (soft/hard ware, either or) |
| 18:32.23 | aeryndunham | spangborn: The time changes can get rough; we luckily don't have too many on this run |
| 18:32.34 | aeryndunham | And we don't get much new tech out here |
| 18:35.42 | aeryndunham | spangborn: But if you sail from, say, Tahiti to California (it's part of a cruise I've 3 3 times), you have EIGHT days at sea in a row, and you put your clock forward an hour 3 times. Is brutal. |
| 18:35.52 | spangborn | Ouch |
| 18:36.29 | aeryndunham | We are alternating Eastern/Western Caribbean right now. Western has no time changes, Eastern has one hour forward and one hour back. |
| 18:39.55 | aeryndunham | aaaaaaaarrrrrrgh I wish they would change the wording on the website for this |
| 18:43.31 | aeryndunham | can anyone look at http://www.princess.com/learn/faq_answer/onboard/in_touch.jsp for me and tell me, if you prepay for a $69 Internet package, how much times does that pahe make it sounds like you get? |
| 18:43.57 | aeryndunham | thinks it is misleading and people keep yelling at me |
| 18:46.55 | TodPunk | I don't see a $69 Internet Package |
| 18:48.46 | TodPunk | On the purchasing page, you get 120 minutes, plus 20 minutes if you pre-purchase |
| 18:49.15 | TodPunk | but the "includes" could mean that it's built into the 120 |
| 18:49.26 | TodPunk | which is stupid, it should say 100 +20 bonus |
| 18:49.44 | TodPunk | like most other packages on websites where you get a bonus |
| 18:51.22 | aeryndunham | yeah, it's 120 mins |
| 18:51.29 | aeryndunham | but I have all these screaming people wanting 140 |
| 18:51.39 | aeryndunham | and I can see why they think that |
| 18:51.47 | aeryndunham | obviously did not design princess.com |
| 18:51.52 | aeryndunham | (if I had it'd look better) |
| 19:41.36 | aeryndunham | ahhhh passengers leave me aloooone |
| 19:42.25 | programmerq | do you have any stories where you've had to call security? |
| 19:43.25 | aeryndunham | I've never personally had to call security, no, but I almot did once |
| 19:43.49 | frostyfrog | Princess@Sea or Internet at sea, or...? |
| 19:44.02 | frostyfrog | asjkgnhjksdfg |
| 19:44.08 | frostyfrog | needed to scrol down. |
| 19:45.25 | aeryndunham | We let passengers print for free in here but we asked a guy to maybe cut back because 50+ pages was a little excessive, he LOST HIS SHIT and kept screaming and screaming, and then after he finally left he sat outside and stared at me and took photos to "send to the CEO about how the punk in the internet cafe was opressing him" |
| 19:46.28 | spangborn | help help i'm being repressed |
| 19:46.39 | spangborn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw |
| 19:47.01 | frostyfrog | Yeah, I'll agree. the wording on the website makes it downd like it's 140 minutes, 280 minutes, 520 minutes, and 760 minutes. |
| 19:47.30 | frostyfrog | s/downd/sound/ |
| 19:47.57 | aeryndunham | frostyfrog: Yeah, I agree. I've asked to have it changed 4 times. |
| 19:49.52 | spangborn | Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 19:50.44 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 19:52.09 | aeryndunham | I'm thinking about upgrading my cell phone plan for faster international data so I can stream Christmas music. Is that terrible. |
| 19:52.20 | spangborn | Depends on what Christmas music. |
| 19:52.28 | spangborn | I work at a mall and hear the worst Christmas music daily |
| 19:52.47 | spangborn | or more accurately, my office is adjacent to the mall |
| 19:53.05 | aeryndunham | ah |
| 19:53.12 | aeryndunham | likes Christmas music, all kinds |
| 19:53.52 | spangborn | Well in that case, stream away! |
| 19:54.54 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 19:55.18 | aeryndunham | I have data in almost every country we go to but I'm limited to 2G alot |
| 19:55.20 | aeryndunham | a lot |
| 19:56.08 | spangborn | Using Spotify? |
| 19:56.28 | spangborn | International data and 2G would imply you're on T-Mobile ;p |
| 19:56.34 | aeryndunham | I don't actually use Spotify much |
| 19:56.38 | aeryndunham | hah, yeah, T-Mobile |
| 19:56.55 | aeryndunham | mostly Pandora and a growing NPR One obsession |
| 19:57.16 | spangborn | Ah, because Spotify you could cache a few playlists |
| 19:57.30 | aeryndunham | with Premium, right? |
| 19:57.42 | spangborn | Yep. |
| 19:58.02 | spangborn | Although, I'm not sure if T-Mobile's Music Freedom applies to international data |
| 19:58.08 | spangborn | You'd probably know better than I would |
| 19:58.23 | aeryndunham | I have unlimited data so it doesn't matter |
| 19:58.45 | spangborn | Pet peeve: When people call movies "shows" |
| 19:58.53 | aeryndunham | people do that? |
| 19:58.56 | spangborn | OH: "I didn't care for the series but I loved the show" |
| 19:58.58 | aeryndunham | to me, show = live theatre |
| 19:59.17 | spangborn | Correctly, it should have been: I didn't care for the TV series but I loved the movie. |
| 19:59.30 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Agreed |
| 20:01.32 | aeryndunham | ooh brb shift over |
| 20:03.52 | programmerq | spangborn⸠yup. that's one utahism I've never gotten used to |
| 20:04.13 | spangborn | Well, this guy is from Payson, so he's definitely as "utah" as you can get |
| 20:09.47 | RyanE | I'm from Spanish Fork, and I've *never* heard anyone refer to a movie as a "show". |
| 20:09.54 | RyanE | I agree, idiotic. |
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| 20:11.06 | aeryndunham | two hours of freedom \o/ |
| 20:11.14 | spangborn | Well to be fair, I'd describe the person that used that term as a "redneck in technology" |
| 20:11.18 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Wewt |
| 20:14.09 | spangborn | iCloud Calendar spam is a thing now, apparently |
| 20:14.57 | aeryndunham | Indeed |
| 20:20.03 | aeryndunham | Hmm I broke a conky widget |
| 20:47.17 | jima | awkward |
| 20:53.52 | aeryndunham | I bought a giant MERRY CHRISTMAS glittery sign thing and I think it's too big for my cabin lol |
| 20:54.28 | spangborn | Just put it up in the internet cafe |
| 20:54.38 | spangborn | ;p |
| 20:54.48 | aeryndunham | hah |
| 20:54.50 | aeryndunham | I wish I could |
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| 21:32.13 | SunSparc | "I did not care for the serial but I love the film." |
| 21:33.37 | programmerq | that's fine |
| 21:35.18 | SunSparc | thanks |
| 21:35.19 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:35.34 | spangborn | Serial makes you sound old |
| 21:35.35 | spangborn | ;p |
| 21:35.42 | SunSparc | Or British. |
| 21:36.30 | jima | or an anime fan |
| 21:36.51 | SunSparc | Got me there. |
| 21:39.56 | spangborn | ew |
| 21:41.33 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN9--PIw6Sw |
| 21:44.21 | frostyfrog | Related to the music discussion, I find google play music to be kinda nice, IMO. |
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| 22:13.43 | TodPunk | just uses Subsonic and his own music collection |
| 22:14.15 | TodPunk | SunSparc: damn weeaboos |
| 22:14.53 | jima | frostyfrog: i've bounced around a bit, but google play is where i've ended up, too. |
| 22:15.48 | SunSparc | TodPunk: lol |
| 22:15.49 | TodPunk | I will say that google play has probably the most out there reach of music. It found a Korean song I've been looking for since 1998 |
| 22:16.03 | TodPunk | (with the accompanying song identifier) |
| 22:17.12 | SunSparc | I currently use Apple Music. But I also have a very large personal collection of music that is available to me offline. I have Google Play also and I have enjoyed Pandora for years. |
| 22:17.45 | TodPunk | Pandora was an awesome project that I wish did more with its tech |
| 22:17.59 | TodPunk | but got bogged down is licensing stupidity |
| 22:18.25 | spangborn | Anyone still use napster? |
| 22:18.59 | TodPunk | no, torrents were invented a long time ago |
| 22:25.54 | RyanE | Rhapsody is now titled Napster. |
| 22:26.18 | RyanE | In that sense, I used to use Rhapsody. But not since it's been retitled. |
| 22:26.37 | spangborn | My brother used to work for Rhapsody |
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| 22:53.27 | eightyeight | jima: was that tweet sarcastic? |
| 22:53.50 | eightyeight | 's sarcasm meter is usually broken, which is why i ask |
| 22:54.01 | jima | no, 100% rendering and 94% resources is pretty damned good. |
| 22:54.44 | eightyeight | cool. thx for the props then. :) |
| 22:54.53 | jima | nat64 isn't too hard to meet (e.g., don't refer to anything with ipv4 literals), but ipv6-only isn't that attainable. |
| 22:54.58 | eightyeight | or 'totes'. or whatever it is the kids say these days |
| 22:55.34 | jima | so, yes -- nice job. just one google analytics url, which is slightly surprising/annoying. |
| 22:56.14 | jima | err, googleadservices, not analytics |
| 23:11.19 | romanovic | spangborn: what is this you heard about Gateway's food court? |
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| 23:13.16 | jima | eightyeight: also, thanks for confusing me, i forgot anyone i know follows that account |
| 23:13.31 | eightyeight | :) |
| 23:13.44 | spangborn | blocks it |
| 23:14.01 | jima | spangborn: AND STAY OUT |
| 23:14.39 | jima | spangborn: it won't keep the realities of ipv6 away... ;-) |
| 23:15.28 | spangborn | Sigh |
| 23:15.44 | spangborn | I wonder if DD-WRT supports IPv6 as an internal network yet |
| 23:15.54 | spangborn | I haven't even bothered looking because IPv6 will never happen |
| 23:16.09 | jima | last i looked at dd-wrt, they told you to grab openwrt's kernel module |
| 23:16.13 | eightyeight | i need to try another firmware for my netgears. i haven't been impressed with openwrt |
| 23:16.30 | jima | so i decided "why don't i just skip the middle-man and use openwrt?" |
| 23:16.45 | spangborn | eightyeight: I have OpenWRT on one of my travel routers |
| 23:16.48 | eightyeight | as strange as this may sound, i get double the signal with stock firmware, than i do with openwrt |
| 23:16.50 | spangborn | And I've bricked it like 4 times |
| 23:17.01 | jima | eightyeight: #shenanigans! |
| 23:17.12 | spangborn | eightyeight: Maybe the wireless driver binary for stock is better? |
| 23:17.18 | jima | i gave up on openwrt after quite a few years |
| 23:17.25 | jima | now i have a ubiquiti router at home |
| 23:17.26 | eightyeight | i need to try tomato |
| 23:17.30 | eightyeight | heh. i wish. |
| 23:17.42 | jima | edgerouter lite is cheap. |
| 23:17.54 | eightyeight | maybe i should ask for that as a christmas gift idea |
| 23:18.01 | spangborn | I've got C-Link modem -> DD-WRT Router -> Apple Airport Extreme <- DD-WRT Bridge |
| 23:18.58 | spangborn | DD-WRT boxes are older Linksys E5000's I think |
| 23:19.20 | spangborn | E3000, my bad |
| 23:19.20 | jima | hrm, i must be misremembering how cheap the erl is, must've been thinking of the er-x |
| 23:19.46 | jima | er-x has had some bugs, but i think it's getting better. |
| 23:20.10 | spangborn | I'm somewhat sad that Apple is killing off their network division |
| 23:20.20 | spangborn | Their wireless hardware was just so easy to setup |
| 23:20.25 | jima | i'm not! but i'm a hater. |
| 23:20.28 | spangborn | Granted it wasn't very powerful software-wise |
| 23:20.45 | jima | they do tend to have "point-and-derp" down |
| 23:20.47 | spangborn | My AE has probably been my least troublesome consumer router |
| 23:21.06 | spangborn | And they're fairly good at making it "just work" |
| 23:21.21 | spangborn | I hate screwing around with advanced wireless settings just to keep devices on the network |
| 23:23.06 | eightyeight | speak of the devil: https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/QuickWirelessIPv6SetupII |
| 23:25.05 | TodPunk | OpenWRT > dd-wrt in every regard except for hardware support |
| 23:25.34 | jima | TodPunk: that may be! i found a few hardware platforms that openwrt was great on, and rode them into the ground. |
| 23:26.15 | spangborn | Routers are basically going to need to do IPv6 without telling anyone |
| 23:26.15 | TodPunk | That all said, I just use a linux box as my router now. Seems better. |
| 23:26.25 | TodPunk | spangborn: they already do in some cases! |
| 23:26.27 | spangborn | In order to get any decent adoption |
| 23:26.42 | TodPunk | there's lots of players that are slow to adopt =c/ |
| 23:27.14 | jima | look at the mess i started |
| 23:27.16 | jima | sorry guys |
| 23:27.25 | TodPunk | it doesn't help that there aren't really any good tutorials for adoption of concept rather than adoption of process. It's easy to setup an ipv6 router if you have an ISP that supports it. It's much harder to understand what the hell is going on. |
| 23:27.36 | TodPunk | stabs jima |
| 23:27.49 | jima | larts TodPunk |
| 23:28.18 | spangborn | TodPunk: Even IPv6 just on your LAN? |
| 23:28.54 | spangborn | I'll admit I'm a bit ignorant of how the switchover or 4to6 translation even happens |
| 23:29.18 | jima | 4to6? there's not really such a thing. |
| 23:29.19 | TodPunk | Every box on my network except the WinXP Mac Mini does ipv6 and I never configured a damn thing |
| 23:29.26 | jima | 6to4 is a thing, but it's terrible. avoid it. |
| 23:29.33 | jima | nat64 is a thing, and a better thing imo |
| 23:29.46 | spangborn | Haha, yes that thing |
| 23:29.51 | spangborn | (I know almost nothing about this) |
| 23:30.01 | jima | TodPunk: `netsh int ipv6 install` for xp |
| 23:30.24 | TodPunk | I've tried to up my conceptual knowledge over the years. It's always been a rabbit hole and I've hated it and give up after an afternoon |
| 23:30.39 | TodPunk | jima: yes, I'm aware that I could, but I wouldn't want to. I'd rather replace the mac mini with an RPi |
| 23:30.40 | jima | win2k was harder, there was a hotfix, but it was only for sp1...you could port it to work with sp4 if you knew what you were doing, though. |
| 23:31.02 | jima | ...yes, that's how long i've been doing ipv6. :-\ |
| 23:31.04 | TodPunk | windows vista on just has it out of the box, so I never had to run such a command |
| 23:31.12 | spangborn | lolvista |
| 23:31.25 | spangborn | says the guy still running Win7 at work :( |
| 23:31.41 | TodPunk | Win7 is Vista without the "pretty" graphics stuff |
| 23:32.08 | TodPunk | it's not like a comparison with ME/XP, where they were literally different operating systems at the kernel level |
| 23:32.26 | spangborn | Eh, even Win7 has a fair amount of the "point-click-drool" |
| 23:32.44 | TodPunk | yeah, they just changed it, toned it back a bit |
| 23:33.16 | TodPunk | I only have the older OSes on way old boxes |
| 23:33.34 | spangborn | Win + Tab's his Win7 box |
| 23:33.37 | TodPunk | the Mac Mini for instance is a good 11 years old I think? It was the first Intel one, 32 bit only |
| 23:36.28 | jima | meanders upstairs |