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| 17:12.20 | youtah | TodPunk, save me |
| 17:12.29 | youtah | from the Facebook group of death |
| 17:28.39 | TodPunk | and he just leaves |
| 17:28.43 | TodPunk | just up and leaves |
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| 17:30.18 | TodPunk | for the benefit of the channel: |
| 17:30.23 | TodPunk | whispers, "no" |
| 17:31.21 | TodPunk | so which aspect of it has you down at the moment? It seems to be terrible in a few ways, in no small part due to your HOA's hugely corporate congolomerate style |
| 17:32.02 | TodPunk | youtah: I'm also curious if you know what website software they're purchasing, I'd like to compare to our community management's choice |
| 17:32.39 | youtah | Um, I will have to ask |
| 17:32.46 | youtah | I think they're paying $350 a month of it |
| 17:32.56 | youtah | for* |
| 17:33.24 | spangborn | Blogger |
| 17:33.31 | spangborn | Or Wix |
| 17:33.36 | youtah | naw |
| 17:33.40 | youtah | this is definately custom stuff |
| 17:33.53 | youtah | it integrates with several other accounting and mls software |
| 17:34.31 | TodPunk | I'm thinking about the possibilities of writing community management SaaS |
| 17:34.44 | youtah | Oh |
| 17:34.46 | youtah | it's totally there |
| 17:35.06 | youtah | and we're paying for the cheapest option |
| 17:35.22 | youtah | the next teir up would be $4500/yr in addition to what they're paying now |
| 17:35.33 | TodPunk | My primary motivation would be to facilitate better communication and maybe get stupid nonsense like HOA meetings brought into the current century |
| 17:35.40 | TodPunk | wow |
| 17:35.51 | TodPunk | wooooow |
| 17:36.08 | youtah | and better archival and searching of minute meetings |
| 17:36.12 | TodPunk | I can't even pay my HOA dues online |
| 17:36.16 | TodPunk | yeah |
| 17:36.34 | TodPunk | and maybe video of the meetings, let members post or whatever |
| 17:36.57 | spangborn | lol hoa |
| 17:37.13 | spangborn | May as well join a S&M club |
| 17:37.20 | youtah | Sams Club? |
| 17:37.34 | spangborn | That's probably equally as painful |
| 17:37.36 | TodPunk | There's currently some drama in youtah's HOA about someone getting foreclosed on because they aren't taking care of their yard or something |
| 17:37.49 | youtah | its actually the mortgage company |
| 17:38.03 | youtah | there is a lean by the HOA because they aren't doing things |
| 17:38.09 | youtah | and it's been +10 years |
| 17:38.13 | spangborn | Amazing |
| 17:38.29 | youtah | and of course they blame it all on the HOA |
| 17:38.44 | youtah | because they haven't watered their lawn in so long it became a dirt field |
| 17:38.52 | youtah | when the secondary irrigation water is $14/mon |
| 17:38.58 | youtah | regardless of how much you use |
| 17:39.18 | spangborn | That's a full netflix subscription |
| 17:39.30 | youtah | That's 1.5 meals from McDonalds! |
| 17:39.36 | spangborn | That's more than that |
| 17:39.43 | spangborn | I do the 2/$2 |
| 17:39.49 | youtah | that's not a meal |
| 17:39.55 | spangborn | It is when you're not fat |
| 17:40.00 | youtah | actually I don't go to McDonalds |
| 17:40.12 | youtah | I go to Wendys and get their chili or their salad |
| 17:40.20 | spangborn | wonders if Utah county or SL county is fatter, on average |
| 17:40.50 | youtah | Utah County by a landslide |
| 17:40.54 | youtah | (my guess) |
| 17:52.46 | jlp_znc | Today's Wendy's chili is yesterday's Wendy's hamburgers that didn't get sold. |
| 17:55.02 | programmerq | yeah, you cook the meat a little longer and then it gets chopped up and used as chili meat |
| 17:56.56 | programmerq | oh man, superdell |
| 17:57.25 | spangborn | What this time? |
| 17:57.29 | youtah | you say this like it's a bad thing |
| 17:57.35 | spangborn | Did he kick a voting machine this time? |
| 17:57.41 | programmerq | I printed my ballot today so I won't be looking at it for the first time tomorrow |
| 17:57.47 | programmerq | and there his face is |
| 17:58.07 | youtah | spangborn, it was called "OwlYourVotesBelongToUs" |
| 17:58.14 | spangborn | lol |
| 17:59.20 | programmerq | voting for dell would be a hoot |
| 17:59.36 | youtah | it'll make heads spin |
| 18:01.04 | programmerq | ~owl |
| 18:01.04 | infobot | Please no kicking the owls. |
| 18:01.13 | spangborn | TIL that's a command |
| 18:01.15 | spangborn | ~owl |
| 18:01.15 | infobot | Please no kicking the owls. |
| 18:02.23 | programmerq | I would have guessed the ~owl command would have been a lot more fowl. |
| 18:02.41 | spangborn | Prey for me |
| 18:03.16 | spangborn | Hoo would have guessed |
| 18:04.12 | TodPunk | youtah: yeah, my sum of it is that this is precisely what the HOA is actually meant to do |
| 18:04.23 | TodPunk | if people don't like that, maybe they are confused on what an HOA is... |
| 18:05.57 | programmerq | an HOA is a bunch of people who will talon you. |
| 18:06.54 | jlp_znc | "we're owl exterminators." |
| 18:08.11 | programmerq | too bad you can't leave notes for candidates on the actual ballot. |
| 18:08.39 | spangborn | "Dear SuperDell, pls get mental help." |
| 18:09.11 | programmerq | Dear SuperDell, voting for you would just be too hawkward. |
| 18:10.11 | spangborn | I don't know why he has such a bad raptor |
| 18:12.37 | youtah | exactly TodPunk |
| 18:14.11 | TodPunk | I do like the positive spin thread where a dude is like "hey, we should help our neighbors, someone let me know what needs to be donated to fix this." Um.. no, the fix is for them to pay their fines or arrange for their yard to be taken care of BEFORE they screw it up, or go live somewhere where they are not thus required to not be the "undesirables" they have shown themselves to patently, measurably be |
| 18:14.30 | youtah | yup |
| 18:14.33 | TodPunk | laying some sod is a baindaid |
| 18:14.36 | youtah | well, I am just gettign the back story |
| 18:14.50 | youtah | there was a lady in my neighborhood |
| 18:14.56 | youtah | her husband up and left for another woman |
| 18:15.01 | youtah | she has full custody of the kids |
| 18:15.08 | youtah | and she struggles from paycheck to paycheck |
| 18:15.15 | youtah | she needed more sod |
| 18:15.28 | youtah | because the HOA was getting after her, and she was on a corner lot |
| 18:15.37 | youtah | so we got together, laid sod, and walla! Issue gone |
| 18:15.41 | TodPunk | k, with you so far |
| 18:15.48 | youtah | Apparently this isn't the same type of scenario |
| 18:15.57 | TodPunk | yeah, definitely not |
| 18:15.58 | youtah | this is just full blown neglect and laziness |
| 18:16.22 | youtah | which makes it hard to to provide service like in the first scenario |
| 18:16.23 | TodPunk | help the widow is different than "holy hell we've been asking you to just use your sprinklers for YEARS" |
| 18:16.33 | youtah | lol, yes. good summary |
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| 19:38.31 | shalkie | ~nachos |
| 19:38.31 | infobot | schweet. |
| 21:08.47 | akmod | Election day tomorrow' |
| 21:09.26 | eightyeight | let the pain begine |
| 21:09.28 | eightyeight | s/e$// |
| 21:14.35 | akmod | nice regex |
| 21:18.24 | programmerq | look at your ballot today |
| 21:19.51 | programmerq | sheesh, what the heck? utah state senate district 13 has exactly one choice. |
| 21:28.04 | spangborn | Is it really a choice then? |
| 21:33.11 | programmerq | nope. I might just write in "WTF" |
| 21:33.24 | programmerq | also, I'm trying to figure out what this is all about. https://ballotpedia.org/Utah_Property_Tax_Exemptions,_Amendment_C_(2016)#Tangible_personal_property |
| 21:34.09 | spangborn | Basically, it gives property owners who lease/rent property to gov't a property tax exemption |
| 21:34.37 | programmerq | right, but what sort of property would actually be exempted? this smells a bit like someone in government trying to toss a bone to someone specific |
| 21:34.44 | spangborn | Exactly |
| 21:34.47 | programmerq | and wrote the bill in generic language to make it sound benevolent |
| 21:34.50 | spangborn | That's why I voted no |
| 21:34.57 | programmerq | so where are the journalists to help figure this stuff out? |
| 21:34.58 | spangborn | You own property, you pay taxes |
| 21:35.18 | akmod | Thoughts on Constitutional Ammendments B and C? |
| 21:36.35 | spangborn | I think B is unnecessary, tbh |
| 21:37.04 | spangborn | It's taking a risk that they haven't before, and it's not really a necessary risk |
| 21:37.21 | programmerq | those didn't come through on my ballot from ballotpedia |
| 21:37.37 | akmod | vote.utah.gov led me to them |
| 21:38.16 | spangborn | C is what programmerq is talking about right now |
| 21:38.25 | spangborn | It just feels sketchy |
| 21:39.14 | programmerq | okay yeah, C is the thing I was talking about |
| 21:39.19 | spangborn | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=41797587&nid=757 |
| 21:39.20 | akmod | oh i see that now |
| 21:39.22 | programmerq | my sample ballot just didn't say B and C |
| 21:39.28 | spangborn | Not really any more info than that, but you get the gist |
| 21:39.49 | programmerq | A seems benevolent |
| 21:39.49 | akmod | At least A was a quick and easy read |
| 21:40.22 | spangborn | KSL calling B "technical" is a bit misleading though |
| 21:40.30 | spangborn | It changes the amount of risk the state is allowed to take with the fund |
| 21:41.44 | jlp_znc | I generally vote against any constitutional amendments on principle. |
| 21:42.00 | akmod | Not a bad idea |
| 21:42.04 | jlp_znc | I guess it depends on what it's about, but if I can't figure out what it's about by reading the balot, then I vote no. |
| 21:42.24 | spangborn | Same tbh |
| 21:42.37 | TodPunk | I voted yes on A, because the wording didn't seem to matter to me and I thought I'd let the politicians think they're people on SOMEthing |
| 21:43.06 | TodPunk | Yes yes, you're a good boy, now go play with a podium somewhere |
| 21:43.32 | akmod | lol |
| 21:43.56 | jlp_znc | yeah, some people get all upset when the congress spends valuable time debating the state gun or crap like that. |
| 21:44.13 | jlp_znc | in my opinion, any time they spend on that stuff is time they're not spending screwing up something important. |
| 21:44.54 | jlp_znc | I think we need a state sidewalk shape. hint, curvy is not it. |
| 21:45.34 | akmod | Thoughts on Jason Chafetz or Mia Love? |
| 21:45.55 | akmod | s/f/ff/ |
| 21:46.04 | jlp_znc | I despise Mia Love. I don't know Jason Chaffetz |
| 21:46.10 | spangborn | I despise both |
| 21:46.19 | jlp_znc | Mia only got elected because of gerrymandering. |
| 21:46.22 | programmerq | my impression of mia love is that she votes exactly how the republican party wants her to |
| 21:46.35 | jlp_znc | "hey, we noticed that we have a democrat in congress?! let's redraw the lines so that doesn't happen." |
| 21:46.35 | spangborn | Chaffetz wastes so much time and money pursuing his own career instead of actually doing his job |
| 21:46.36 | programmerq | but I don't know if my senses are way off on that |
| 21:46.44 | spangborn | programmerq: You're about right |
| 21:47.13 | programmerq | my impression of chaffetz was that he campaigned on being the new guy, and then BAM he's super corrupted now. |
| 21:47.20 | akmod | And there are no constitution or libertarian alternatives :( |
| 21:47.24 | programmerq | again, not entirely sure if my senses are off on that or not. |
| 21:47.24 | jlp_znc | I don't know that Owens will be any better than Mia Love, though. |
| 21:47.53 | spangborn | programmerq: He's not even really corrupted, he's just only interested in glorifying himself |
| 21:48.05 | spangborn | Now that he knows that he's got the election locked up, he went back to voting for Trump |
| 21:48.08 | spangborn | That should tell you enough |
| 21:48.35 | spangborn | He only pretended to hate Trump to not lose his own election |
| 21:48.44 | programmerq | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOEoE8aIgXw |
| 21:48.50 | akmod | Actually, it looks like we can pick Collin Simonsen over chaffetz |
| 21:49.02 | akmod | does anyone know him? |
| 21:49.03 | spangborn | anyone is an improvement over Chaffetz |
| 21:49.34 | unum | I'm not sure it's fair to say mia love only got elected due to gerrymanding |
| 21:50.00 | spangborn | It pretty much is |
| 21:50.02 | unum | utah has four republican congress members because of gerrymandering |
| 21:50.22 | akmod | Also because utah is predominately republican |
| 21:50.40 | unum | but if the districts had been drawn to keep communities of interest together mia love's district would still be republican |
| 21:51.31 | unum | though she'd probably be in the same district as chaffetz |
| 21:51.57 | spangborn | She won because of gerrymandering and pandering to the tea party |
| 21:52.05 | unum | so he'd probably be the republican representing her |
| 21:52.13 | unum | spangborn: what do you think the districts should look like? |
| 21:52.16 | spangborn | Btw, I also love how she's taking credit for Millcreek canyon being a public resource |
| 21:53.16 | TodPunk | Chaffetz is an unfortunate name. I can't get over chaffing my ass. |
| 21:53.55 | spangborn | My bigger issue with Mia Love though is how she wanted to kill federal education loans after using them to get her degree and her position |
| 21:54.14 | spangborn | She wanted to privatize educational loans |
| 21:54.16 | programmerq | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mky11UJb9AY - this video explains gerrymandering and some alternatives. I'm a fan of the shortest split-line method |
| 21:54.18 | unum | tryon's a really nice guy |
| 21:57.11 | unum | I don't understand why one would accuse Love from bennfitting from gerrymandering more than any of the others |
| 21:57.33 | unum | Steward would probably be the one I would accuse of benefitting from gerrymandering |
| 21:58.12 | akmod | Dare I ask what anyone thinks about the presidential candidates? |
| 21:58.12 | unum | that's even the seat that matheson held prior to redistricting |
| 21:58.48 | unum | I don't understand why McMullin talks about a new conservative movement when all his proposals look like GWB's |
| 21:59.00 | akmod | Personally, I like McMullen, but every keeps telling me that's a wasted vote |
| 21:59.02 | jlp_znc | unum because for years the district that my house was in consistently elected a democrat to congress. many many years. then we had a census and the republican party got to redraw the lines. suddenly, we had Mia Love. |
| 21:59.09 | unum | shouldn't he just run as a the same old conservative movement |
| 21:59.49 | spangborn | Gotta differentiate from Trump somehow |
| 22:00.04 | unum | jlp_znc: but I think that's true of more people in cd 2 than cd 4 |
| 22:00.10 | unum | and cd 4 is the new district |
| 22:00.32 | unum | akmod: a wasted vote is for a candidate you don't agree with :) |
| 22:00.46 | akmod | thank you |
| 22:01.19 | spangborn | No, more accurately - a wasted vote is a write-in vote for someone who can't be written in |
| 22:01.29 | akmod | like mikey mouse |
| 22:01.32 | spangborn | Exactly |
| 22:01.42 | spangborn | Or Mitt Romney |
| 22:01.51 | spangborn | or Bernie |
| 22:01.56 | spangborn | Or youtah |
| 22:02.32 | jlp_znc | who would ever write in youtah? |
| 22:02.33 | unum | spangborn: good point |
| 22:02.42 | spangborn | jlp_znc: youtah would |
| 22:02.57 | spangborn | That is, if he wasn't too busy talking on a radio |
| 22:03.06 | jlp_znc | or driving a subaru |
| 22:03.14 | unum | I voted for myself!!!! |
| 22:03.19 | unum | though not for president |
| 22:03.28 | spangborn | Class president? |
| 22:03.35 | unum | state rep |
| 22:04.01 | spangborn | State of insanity? ;p |
| 22:04.12 | unum | I'd represent that pretty well |
| 22:04.22 | spangborn | Me too |
| 22:04.48 | jlp_znc | I've often though of running for office on a very simple platform: I will vote against any new laws, except laws that remove old laws from the books. |
| 22:05.20 | unum | libertarian than |
| 22:05.23 | spangborn | jlp_znc: Kinda like what the state legislature tried to do this year and miserably failed? |
| 22:05.52 | unum | constitutionalists have a similiar view, except they will vote for laws that make you go to church ;) |
| 22:06.09 | unum | IAP makes you go to church in a van driven by superdell |
| 22:06.35 | unum | with a detour to shoot up a bird refuge |
| 22:07.01 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 22:07.05 | spangborn | And force you to pull someone over |
| 22:07.10 | spangborn | And pretend to be a police officer |
| 22:07.14 | jlp_znc | don't forget brandishing |
| 22:07.16 | unum | spangborn: someone with dark skin though |
| 22:07.26 | unum | you don't pull over white people |
| 22:07.30 | spangborn | Well obviously. White people have camo to hide from police |
| 22:07.39 | jlp_znc | superdell: "brandishing should be legal!" |
| 22:07.55 | spangborn | He already brandishes his idiocy a lot |
| 22:07.57 | akmod | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/72/0d/a3/720da3c3fc884ba93ba2e7129746d0cc.jpg |
| 22:08.01 | spangborn | I guess that aspect is legal |
| 22:08.23 | unum | democrats will pass laws requiring everyone to run a private email server and routinely delete email the don't want to turn over to the government |
| 22:08.51 | jlp_znc | ha, $EMPLOYER minus somethign already did that |
| 22:09.04 | jlp_znc | s/somethign/something/ |
| 22:09.17 | jlp_znc | s/something/5/ |
| 22:09.28 | jlp_znc | aww |
| 22:09.49 | TodPunk | akmod: McMullen is a protest vote. If that's a waste to you than it's a waste, but that's a matter of your opinion |
| 22:09.51 | jlp_znc | Raytheon ran an internal mail server, and had a policy that any mail older than 45 days was automatically deleted. |
| 22:10.17 | jlp_znc | if you wanted to keep a piece of mail beyond that time, you had to save it out to a local mailbox. |
| 22:10.23 | TodPunk | McMullen can't possibly be relevant, let alone win, and has less of a snowball's chance than Johnson, who is also laughable as an option for serious outcomes |
| 22:10.24 | unum | http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/sltrib/politics/52028425-90/car-didn-difference-involved.html.csp |
| 22:10.27 | jlp_znc | (they also used Lotus Notes.. ugh) |
| 22:10.32 | spangborn | jlp_znc: Gross |
| 22:10.38 | spangborn | Glad my division of Raytheon never did that |
| 22:10.39 | unum | when I was looking for that story I typed provo instead of orem |
| 22:10.52 | akmod | I like the Libertarian Party but I couldn't get behind Johnson |
| 22:11.05 | unum | apparantly they have a big problem with people impersonating police in provo, because google returned a lot of results |
| 22:11.09 | spangborn | TodPunk: however if he wins Utah, it gives the independent party more $$$ |
| 22:11.20 | spangborn | unum: Well it is Provo |
| 22:11.30 | spangborn | Their police probably have a problem pretending to be police too |
| 22:11.37 | TodPunk | The supreme problem with third parties isn't that they aren't part of the political system, it's that they aren't producing serious candidates |
| 22:11.50 | akmod | yes, unfortunately |
| 22:11.52 | TodPunk | Lincoln won as a third party candidate because he was electable, he was presidential |
| 22:12.00 | spangborn | TodPunk: Exactly my thought |
| 22:12.05 | spangborn | And it's kind of a chicken/egg problem |
| 22:12.15 | spangborn | They won't produce viable candidates if they aren't viable parties |
| 22:12.19 | akmod | I could have gotten behind the LP if Austin Petersen got in |
| 22:12.26 | spangborn | like LOL @ the Libertarian's gov candidate |
| 22:12.38 | TodPunk | Ross Perot and Ralph Nader have both been taken seriously as third party candidates in the past because they were also both of these things |
| 22:12.38 | akmod | and McMullen even said he wouldn't have ran if Petersen had gotten the LP nomination |
| 22:13.02 | TodPunk | I know nothing of Petersen |
| 22:13.16 | akmod | Ya, he's nothing now |
| 22:13.27 | akmod | that was back in January ish |
| 22:13.48 | akmod | before the major Party Conventions |
| 22:14.09 | TodPunk | The thing we've seen this election that I think is important is that Sanders and Trump are not party produced, and they both almost took the party. This demostrates that the party is NOT the driving force behind who people care to vote for. |
| 22:14.27 | unum | McMullin is not on the ballot with a party. He's unaffiliated so him winning doesn't help get money for his party. |
| 22:14.31 | TodPunk | Dems having a significant bias problem only reinforces this point |
| 22:14.39 | spangborn | Gets money for unaffiliated candidates though |
| 22:14.50 | spangborn | Which is progress |
| 22:15.05 | TodPunk | spangborn: I would be hard pressed to come up with a scenario where that's progress |
| 22:15.20 | TodPunk | it won't get anyone to care any more about those prospects, money or no |
| 22:15.30 | unum | I don't think it does get money for them |
| 22:15.36 | akmod | If McMullen wins Utah then maybe people will treat the next election like we have a multi-party system |
| 22:15.49 | TodPunk | hahahaha, no |
| 22:15.56 | TodPunk | people will think Utah is insane |
| 22:15.56 | unum | McMullin is a republican |
| 22:16.01 | TodPunk | rightfully so, mind you |
| 22:16.45 | TodPunk | a dry state voting someone in just because they're Mormon is not a great sounding rumor mill kindling |
| 22:17.17 | akmod | Voting Mcmullin because he is mormon is probably what the rest of the US will see.. |
| 22:17.27 | TodPunk | It's quite literally what is happening |
| 22:17.47 | unum | mcmullin winning doesn't actually help some new set of ideas come forward, it just shows that we like tradional republicans(for reasons I can't understand) |
| 22:18.03 | TodPunk | Just because you or your social circle isn't doing so is not incredibly relevant. Most people voting don't know their candidate's policies or have a great deal of debatable points about them |
| 22:18.15 | TodPunk | they're just voting because of parroting in their social trust circle |
| 22:18.32 | TodPunk | and what they're hearing is ostensibly that he's Mormon and conservative |
| 22:18.53 | TodPunk | This is why he's on the ballot on over 20 states but is only recognized in Utah |
| 22:19.18 | TodPunk | Hell, the only reason you or I have heard of him is because Mormons spread the word |
| 22:19.36 | TodPunk | I keep capitalizing mormon for some reason today |
| 22:20.31 | SunSparc | It is a proper name. |
| 22:20.46 | TodPunk | well, the figure, Mormon, is |
| 22:20.51 | TodPunk | being mormon is not |
| 22:21.05 | SunSparc | ~orly |
| 22:21.05 | infobot | YARLY |
| 22:21.13 | programmerq | looks up some grammar rules |
| 22:21.15 | TodPunk | until recently, the LDS church would discourage the term anyway |
| 22:21.23 | spangborn | Oh that changed? |
| 22:21.29 | SunSparc | Not that it matters. |
| 22:21.31 | spangborn | I also love how they're referred to as "the church" |
| 22:21.37 | TodPunk | in their marketing, yeah |
| 22:21.47 | spangborn | "The church" "owns" a mall |
| 22:21.50 | TodPunk | the whole "I'm a Mormon" campaign for instance |
| 22:21.50 | spangborn | What church is hat? |
| 22:21.52 | spangborn | *that |
| 22:22.08 | spangborn | I usually get pedantic and ask if it's the Catholic church |
| 22:23.54 | SunSparc | If you lived in a predominantly Catholic community would people saying "the church" bother you also? |
| 22:24.14 | spangborn | Probably |
| 22:24.32 | spangborn | I dislike it on the basis that it implies there's only one |
| 22:24.37 | SunSparc | Context is relevant. |
| 22:24.39 | spangborn | *The* church |
| 22:24.39 | programmerq | it depends on context |
| 22:24.42 | programmerq | I'm going to the store |
| 22:24.52 | programmerq | "oh, there's only one The Store?" |
| 22:24.56 | programmerq | context. |
| 22:24.59 | spangborn | Mmm The Store |
| 22:25.00 | SunSparc | +1 |
| 22:25.10 | SunSparc | The Store has pretty tasty meats. |
| 22:25.22 | jlp_znc | there is only one "The Store" |
| 22:25.28 | jlp_znc | (that I know of, anyway) |
| 22:25.32 | frostyfrog | The store also has some great movies on sale. |
| 22:25.33 | spangborn | Aren't there two? |
| 22:25.33 | SunSparc | thinks about creating a store called, "The Store"... |
| 22:25.35 | programmerq | oh, is there a place called that? |
| 22:25.41 | spangborn | There's one on 6200 |
| 22:25.47 | spangborn | and one further north |
| 22:26.02 | jlp_znc | I only know of the one. |
| 22:26.10 | jlp_znc | google maps only knows of the one. |
| 22:26.17 | jlp_znc | https://www.google.com/maps/search/the+store/@40.630255,-111.8564348,15z/data=!3m1!4b1 |
| 22:26.21 | SunSparc | We need morez. |
| 22:27.13 | jlp_znc | http://www.thestoreutah.com/ only knows of one, but also mentions Ace Hardware Coming Soon! |
| 22:28.03 | TodPunk | My son and I wish to create a bunch of single-purpose stores named by their department. So "Clothes" and "Groceries" and "Toys" would all sell their respective things. |
| 22:28.05 | spangborn | http://www.thestorestuff.com/ |
| 22:28.10 | jlp_znc | apparently The Store is moving and Ace Hardware will be taking their place. |
| 22:28.13 | spangborn | There are two, but one is called "The Store Stuff" |
| 22:28.32 | spangborn | They also sell minimal amounts of groceries, IIRC |
| 22:28.38 | jlp_znc | mid july... perhaps that already happened some eyars ago :-) |
| 22:29.10 | spangborn | Perhaps the other one closed though, it's been a year or so since I've been there |
| 22:29.17 | jlp_znc | what a terrible web site. |
| 22:30.29 | SunSparc | ~twss |
| 22:30.29 | infobot | That's what she said! |
| 22:35.41 | jlp_znc | ~middleman |
| 22:35.41 | infobot | Sands of Zanzibar! |
| 22:36.08 | unum | oooh Udall might be secratary of interior |
| 22:36.36 | unum | of course hinting that a politician from a swing state might get a cabinet position is pretty blatent political move |
| 22:43.22 | manithree | unum: You're surprised a politician is making a political move? |
| 22:44.16 | unum | manithree: no, but I like the Udall's |
| 22:44.27 | unum | one of them should run for president :) |
| 22:44.34 | RyanE | eventually, one will. |
| 22:44.41 | unum | how would that be if the democratic nominee was Mormon |
| 22:44.53 | RyanE | like Harry Reid? |
| 22:44.56 | unum | everyone will see how little idenity politics matter in a general election :) |
| 22:45.00 | unum | Reid is too old |
| 22:45.11 | unum | I think one of the Udalls would be better |
| 22:45.35 | unum | Wydon would be an other good candidate |
| 22:47.31 | unum | gah I'm already talking about the 202[04] campaign |
| 22:47.33 | unum | I need to stop |
| 22:47.44 | jima | sedates unum |
| 22:47.49 | RyanE | heh |
| 22:48.00 | RyanE | better than talking about *this* one, by far... :) |
| 22:48.32 | jima | who're you planning on voting for? jenna bush or chelsea clinton? |
| 22:48.49 | jima | (i keep expecting it to come to that.) |
| 22:48.53 | unum | jima: good one |
| 22:49.31 | jima | i expected hillary in 2008/2012, jeb in 2016/2020, chelsea in 2024/2028, jenna in 2032/2036... |
| 22:49.46 | jima | feuding warfamilies |
| 22:50.08 | jima | dang obama doing the combo breaker move |
| 22:50.32 | jima | THERE WAS A PLAN |
| 22:50.59 | jima | also, chemtrails are made from gluten...delicious, tasty gluten. |
| 22:51.21 | romanovic | unum: I think that's an appropriate response. Whoever wins this election, people are going to be in damage control mode... nothing to be done in 2016, so we have 1461 days to find a more reasonable candidate leader of the free world |
| 22:52.33 | jima | romanovic: 1456 days. |
| 22:52.59 | jima | nice try with the 365+365+365+366, but you failed to account for election day falling on a tuesday. :-) |
| 22:53.28 | manithree | jima: good point, we need to hurry |
| 22:53.28 | jima | unless it's 1463 days, whatever. |
| 22:53.34 | jima | manithree: touche. |
| 22:53.59 | jima | "WE LOST FIVE DAYS ALREADY" |
| 22:54.13 | romanovic | or, maybe 730 days, since in the US we clearly need AT LEAST two years of media wars to properly vet our candidates |
| 22:54.37 | jima | romanovic: i'm liking these reports of 6-month campaigning limits from other countries. :-( |
| 22:54.51 | jima | romanovic: well, we could get by with less with EXTREME VETTING |
| 22:55.18 | jima | (a phrase i love more than i should) |
| 22:56.29 | romanovic | jima: that would be great. How long are campaigns in Canada? Like 2-3 months aren't they? |
| 22:56.44 | jima | i don't know, i heard that was out of europe or something |
| 22:57.39 | jima | http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/21/450238156/canadas-11-week-campaign-reminds-us-that-american-elections-are-much-longer |
| 22:57.55 | jima | *sigh* |
| 22:58.48 | manithree | If your election lasts longer than 4 hours, see a physician immediately |
| 22:58.57 | jima | manithree: <3 |
| 23:00.30 | *** join/#utah RuShan (~RuShan@68.69.169.116) |
| 23:02.27 | jima | wanders off to vote or drink or something |
| 23:43.37 | SunSparc | manithree: lol |
| 23:44.01 | SunSparc | ~drink jima |
| 23:44.01 | infobot | drinks jima in one swig, turns blue, green, and ultraviolet, and then vomits jima across the room |
