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| 02:03.08 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 03:20.52 | spangborn | Sweet. |
| 03:21.02 | spangborn | My neighbors' fencing contractor cut my CenturyLink line |
| 03:22.52 | spangborn | at 10:29 AM |
| 03:23.12 | spangborn | (Thanks server, for attempting to run a speedtest and failing) |
| 10:08.12 | klys | ~morning |
| 10:08.13 | infobot | Good morning! |
| 10:08.34 | klys | :) |
| 10:09.21 | klys | of course temps are below freezing |
| 10:09.37 | klys | so early |
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| 15:56.40 | klys | ~quote mu |
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| 16:04.31 | SunSparc | ~friday |
| 16:04.31 | infobot | friday is probably !!!!!!!! FRIDAY !!!!!!! |
| 16:05.25 | TodPunk | probably? |
| 16:05.37 | SunSparc | You never can be too sure. |
| 16:05.57 | spangborn | http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=41922501&cat=409&lpid=0&search&ad_cid=1 |
| 16:06.01 | spangborn | Stolen? (y/n) |
| 16:06.08 | TodPunk | spangborn: I cut my neighbor's centurylink line! It was $634 =c( |
| 16:06.26 | spangborn | TodPunk: Ouch |
| 16:06.27 | SunSparc | spangborn: lol, probably |
| 16:06.31 | spangborn | Well the contractors will be paying for this |
| 16:06.37 | spangborn | And they should be, because they're dicks |
| 16:06.40 | spangborn | I think they actually cut two lines |
| 16:06.41 | SunSparc | TodPunk: Whoa! |
| 16:06.47 | spangborn | Because my next door neighbor has a temporary line now too |
| 16:07.40 | TodPunk | I trenched through their line with the trencher. Their conduit was as nothing. |
| 16:07.54 | spangborn | Oh was this the line from the box to a house? |
| 16:07.58 | spangborn | Or the mainline to the box? |
| 16:08.05 | TodPunk | box to the house |
| 16:08.08 | spangborn | Ah, so not as bad |
| 16:08.08 | TodPunk | it's fiber, too |
| 16:08.21 | spangborn | Ouch |
| 16:08.24 | TodPunk | yeah |
| 16:08.28 | spangborn | Yeah, this tech said he'd rather work with fiber though |
| 16:08.35 | spangborn | I don't think the fencing contractor called blue stake |
| 16:08.38 | spangborn | So they're screwed |
| 16:09.05 | spangborn | Because Centurylink now has to come out and bury a non-temp cable |
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| 16:09.20 | TodPunk | spangborn: how would you even tell it was stolen or not? |
| 16:09.40 | spangborn | TodPunk: It's bizarrely cheap for a road bike |
| 16:09.47 | spangborn | It's probably worth at least $200 more than that |
| 16:10.00 | spangborn | But maybe they just don't know what they have |
| 16:10.35 | TodPunk | can not fathom how bikes are so expensive |
| 16:10.44 | spangborn | Mine was like $1800? |
| 16:10.47 | spangborn | Used, even |
| 16:10.51 | spangborn | It's like $5300 new |
| 16:11.00 | TodPunk | This has GOT to be a solved problem we can mass produce |
| 16:11.13 | spangborn | Well, carbon fiber is usually the kicker |
| 16:11.20 | TodPunk | It's two wheels, a frame, a gear shift, and some pedals for a driver |
| 16:11.21 | spangborn | Anything CF has to be built by hand for decent quality control |
| 16:12.03 | TodPunk | I also don't see the CF as an advantage being required. Even non-CF bikes seem very expensive |
| 16:12.34 | TodPunk | It's probably $80 in parts for all this, I'm guessing. That's being generous. |
| 16:12.46 | TodPunk | Tires are probably the most expensive bit |
| 16:14.09 | spangborn | Well, R&D costs have to go somewhere too |
| 16:26.34 | TodPunk | I again don't think there's much R&D to be done on bikes. They're SO simple as devices go. |
| 16:26.48 | RyanE | tires are among the *easiest* of the parts to mass-produce. Why do you think they'd be most expensive? |
| 16:27.00 | RyanE | bikes have to be made in different frame sizes. Increases cost. |
| 16:27.21 | RyanE | road bike frames are relatively exotic materials. Increases costs. |
| 16:27.36 | RyanE | manufacturing processes for exotic materials are more expensive. |
| 16:27.45 | TodPunk | RyanE: because rubber tires seem to be really expensive in other arenas, so I'm just going off association |
| 16:27.48 | RyanE | but yeah, there's plenty of profit in the bikes. |
| 16:28.06 | RyanE | yeah, but they're a standard size and rating, and all the cost is in equipment / line setup. |
| 16:28.22 | RyanE | and since it's a consumable, it's less expensive. |
| 16:28.25 | TodPunk | Wheelbarrow tires are half the expense of the wheelbarrow, for instance |
| 16:28.30 | RyanE | true. |
| 16:28.49 | RyanE | but wheelbarrow frames are very inexpensive to make. One size, one (very expensive) die, pressed metal. |
| 16:29.00 | RyanE | fewer manufacturing steps to make wheelbarrow bowl. |
| 16:29.19 | RyanE | if you could make a pressed metal frame for the bike, yeah, it'd be cheap. |
| 16:29.35 | TodPunk | There's got to be somewhere inbetween the heavily customized audiophile-level self indulgence bikes and the cheap Walmart bike |
| 16:29.44 | RyanE | no market. |
| 16:29.55 | jfindlay | TodPunk: my bike was $400 |
| 16:29.59 | TodPunk | new? |
| 16:30.01 | jfindlay | not a walmart bike |
| 16:30.03 | jfindlay | yes |
| 16:30.08 | RyanE | as was my crappy mountain bike, but 15 years ago. :) |
| 16:30.08 | TodPunk | awesome! |
| 16:30.12 | TodPunk | where did you get it? |
| 16:30.21 | RyanE | nashbar has some reasonably-priced bikes, IMHO. |
| 16:30.39 | jfindlay | I got it at the bike peddler on state street in Sandy |
| 16:31.04 | jfindlay | TodPunk: also see SLC bicycle on 500 E and 300 S |
| 16:31.24 | jfindlay | and even performance bike has a store on 2100 S and 300 W |
| 16:31.34 | TodPunk | I wonder if the mom & pop bike shops are the place for this |
| 16:31.46 | programmerq | I have a somewhat decent mountain bike. I don't use it often. |
| 16:32.02 | jfindlay | my bike is a 7 speed, steel commuter bike |
| 16:32.07 | RyanE | I've thought about getting a road bike, but I've got another 30-40 lbs. to lose before the weight of the bike makes any difference. |
| 16:32.09 | jfindlay | it's pretty awesome |
| 16:32.28 | RyanE | over 'slicker' tires on my old, worn mtb. |
| 16:34.11 | TodPunk | I think I could get into biking if I could do so to/from work year-round |
| 16:34.44 | jfindlay | TodPunk: there's a market for not junker bikes and not vanity bikes, you just have to look for it |
| 16:35.22 | jfindlay | I ride almost every day of the year, even in the winter. The only days that don't really work is when it is actively snowing |
| 16:35.33 | TodPunk | This is, I suppose, one of those times I find it inconvenient to live in a place with snow (despite enjoying snow) |
| 16:35.49 | jfindlay | snow removal in this state is excellent |
| 16:36.31 | TodPunk | yes, but my commute is somewhat dangerous even in summer, so removal isn't so much the problem as that it would further restrict the room I have to be safe. |
| 16:36.47 | jfindlay | that is definitely a problem |
| 16:36.49 | TodPunk | (middle of Timp Highway east into Alpine) |
| 16:37.25 | jfindlay | did they not add a bike trail as part of the alpine highway? |
| 16:37.34 | TodPunk | for some of it |
| 16:37.46 | jfindlay | that's ... not useful |
| 16:38.03 | TodPunk | north of timp highway it doesn't exist and that's where I need to go |
| 17:01.21 | SunSparc | Want some good electronic music? Come enjoy Freakture Friday at thesixtyone: http://www.thesixtyone.com/group/Electro+Freaks/ |
| 17:08.39 | levi | I think the bike expensiveness thing is caused by a variety of factors. At the high end, it's definitely driven by vanity and gear lust amongst wealthy hobbyists, but I think there's definitely some significant manufacturing cost in the mid-range. Apparently even in Giant's Taiwan factory, 90% of the manufacturing process is by hand. |
| 17:25.53 | joshh | carbon frames do take a lot of manual labor i think |
| 17:26.02 | TodPunk | pretty sure they do |
| 17:26.45 | joshh | i don't understand why certain components are so much though |
| 17:26.58 | joshh | like mtb wheels and forks |
| 17:27.01 | programmerq | who needs regular bicycles anymore? http://www.sportsentertainmentspecialists.com/vrcycling.html |
| 17:27.31 | TodPunk | >.< |
| 17:33.05 | levi | I think all frames takes a good amount of labor, and often other specialized manufacturing processes as well. |
| 17:35.29 | levi | MTB wheels and forks have to be engineered for a crazy combination of lightness and durability. High-end road wheels are ridiculously expensive too. |
| 17:36.14 | joshh | i get all that |
| 17:36.43 | joshh | but when i walk into a bike store and there are dozens or more 5-10k bikes for sale i wonder who is really in that market |
| 17:37.24 | joshh | though i went for a ride on a marin trail a while ago and it seemed like everyone i saw had some nice new carbon santa cruz |
| 17:38.34 | joshh | then i went for one in the east bay hills and everyone was on entry level hardtails |
| 17:41.35 | jfindlay | joshh: don't be surprised at how much people convince themselves is an acceptable amount of vanity spending |
| 17:42.06 | levi | Entry-level home computers used to cost that much, and people bought them. |
| 17:42.53 | joshh | true |
| 17:42.57 | levi | We're kind of spoiled by cheap mass-produced goods these days. |
| 17:43.02 | joshh | basically im starting to get into bikes for the first time as an adult lately |
| 17:43.08 | joshh | and have been a bit shocked at the cost of the hobby |
| 17:43.19 | joshh | but mountain biking is very fun |
| 17:43.35 | jfindlay | unfortunately, expensive goods usually doesn't mean the labor is less exploited |
| 17:44.02 | levi | I totally get the sticker shock. I have a hard time with the prices too, despite having convinced myself that they're not actually completely unreasonable. |
| 17:44.31 | joshh | the thing is though, the 800-1k range bikes are actually pretty decent now |
| 17:45.01 | joshh | but you have to be willing to use a bike like that until you need more capability |
| 17:45.29 | levi | Yeah, I've never spent $2k or more on a bike, and I've never really been unhappy with my bikes. |
| 17:46.16 | joshh | and since im in 30s with a lot to lose if i get injured, i don't think i'll be bombing a lot of downhill or anything |
| 17:46.35 | levi | I also haven't bought a *new* bike in probably >15 years. |
| 17:46.49 | joshh | but i do think new expensive bikes are amazingly cool and lustworthy |
| 17:47.46 | levi | I did pick up a nice early 80s (I think) 21-speed steel frame bike for cheap at a yard sale a few years ago. It's my favorite for riding around the neighborhood. |
| 17:48.20 | joshh | i think i'd get a steel frame for casual road riding, if i did any |
| 17:48.27 | joshh | i don't dare to ride around cars though |
| 17:49.09 | jfindlay | I think riding a bike on the road should be mandatory experience for getting a driver license |
| 17:50.49 | levi | I love road riding; it's so much easier to get out and do it, and sharing the road with cars is generally not that terrible if you're not on high-traffic roads. |
| 17:51.10 | joshh | i wish we had amsterdam quality bike lanes |
| 17:51.46 | joshh | SF has a few very bike friendly areas with good lanes, but you have to brave some truly crazy drivers to get between them |
| 17:52.05 | levi | I love mountain biking too, in theory, but I haven't done it in ages so I am really not conditioned for it now. |
| 17:52.14 | joshh | ya, im just starting out basically |
| 17:52.15 | jfindlay | joshh: SLC isn't too bad either |
| 17:52.25 | joshh | and already hurt my knee trying to learn to manual and falling backwards |
| 17:52.53 | joshh | i just want to have a lot of fun on semi-tame XC trails around the bay and tahoe |
| 17:54.15 | levi | Yeah, semi-tame XC trails were my favorite. Not a big downhill bomber or into super-technical stuff. |
| 17:54.37 | levi | I like the combination of exercise, scenery, and a bit of challenge. |
| 17:55.41 | joshh | ya, exactly |
| 17:56.17 | levi | Really no need for super-expensive bikes there. |
| 18:00.01 | joshh | ya, and the entry level ones commonly have acceptable coil forks, decent hydro disc brakes, fun geometry, etc |
| 18:05.36 | romanovic | I spent a lot of time last year finding multi-use paths to commute to work. No interest in commuting on roads with cars any more than necessary |
| 18:06.12 | RyanE | I wish they'd connect the point of the mountain bike path end-to-end. |
| 18:06.22 | RyanE | it only goes to the gravel pit, then stops, from what I've heard. |
| 18:07.50 | romanovic | I discovered if I add a couple of extra miles to my bike commute and take JRP the majority of the way, I more than make up that time by never waiting at intersections. It's nice only to have to pass through 1 or 2, then full speed for the rest of the commute |
| 18:08.10 | levi | I think the land next to the river is all privately owned by groups not likely to sell anytime soon. |
| 18:08.14 | romanovic | I've hever gone around POTM though, I want to explore that |
| 18:10.41 | RyanE | romanovic: my main issue is that 'full speed' for me is pretty darn slow. :) |
| 18:12.32 | romanovic | same here, I ride with full panniers on a used MTB with tires replaced for better commuting and thorn proofing |
| 18:13.22 | romanovic | If I had money and no panniers to take with me to work, I'd get a road bike. but still take JRP. |
| 18:17.57 | levi | You can put panniers on a road bike. |
| 18:20.36 | jfindlay | http://www.authorama.com/three-men-in-a-boat-8.html |
| 18:21.48 | romanovic | sure. but my mtb suspension sure makes the ride smoother with the extra weight |
| 18:22.12 | jfindlay | " They actually do this along the minor tributary streams and in the backwaters. They drive posts into the bed of the stream, and draw chains across from bank to bank, and nail huge notice-boards on every tree. The sight of those notice-boards rouses every evil instinct in my nature. I feel I want to tear each one down, and hammer it over the head of the man who put it up, until I have killed him, and then I |
| 18:22.15 | jfindlay | would bury him, and put the board up over the grave as a tombstone." |
| 18:22.50 | levi | If you're exploring the canal trails around POTM, you're likely to run across the United Apostolic Bretheren property there. |
| 18:23.36 | levi | Sorry, it's apparently Apostolic United Brethren. |
| 18:26.25 | romanovic | is that anything to be concerned about? |
| 18:27.10 | romanovic | hasn't heard any stories about people unfriendly to passers-through |
| 18:27.45 | RyanE | The POTM trail I was wanting completed is on the East side of I-15. Looks shorter than JRP, which seems to wind around quite a bit (of course, I've only ridden it to the windmills' bases). |
| 18:32.44 | levi | No, nothing to be concerned about, just a curiosity. |
| 18:33.50 | levi | RyanE: It looks like there's a new paved trail that starts right around where the AUP property is and follows one of the canals until it meets back up with the JRP trail. |
| 18:34.45 | levi | So you should be able to make the connection to the salt lake county JRP from the utah county JRP without significant time on roads and without taking unpaved trails. |
| 18:37.02 | levi | There's a small stretch of 1300W you have to take to 14600S, but it shouldn't have much traffic. |
| 18:38.26 | levi | I'm going to have to check that out. |
| 18:43.48 | levi | I'd love to have a shorter trail following the rail line or something; the JRP does indeed wander around a lot. I find it's a lot faster to take the west side frontage road, since the east side frontage road is likely to lead to gravel trucks running you off the road. |
| 18:45.04 | levi | Of course there's been a lot more development since the last time I rode on the west side frontage road; maybe it's not much better now. |
| 18:51.50 | levi | The *real* cyclists that need to cross the point of the mountain do so via Suncrest. ;) |
| 19:08.10 | romanovic | I've taken that stretch of 1300W several times to reconnect with the trail. It really wasn't a long distance, although it did have a lot of unrepaired potholes as of last year |
| 19:21.49 | jfindlay | is anyone else able to access github? |
| 19:23.14 | romanovic | theres an ongoing ddos affecting github |
| 19:23.43 | jfindlay | not just github |
| 19:24.06 | jfindlay | internet of twerps |
| 19:25.06 | TodPunk | Behold, the centralized internet |
| 19:40.30 | RyanE | levi: with that criteria, I may *never* be a *real* cyclist. :) |
| 19:41.24 | RyanE | Yeah, I heard there was a connection from the JRP Utah County to SL County. I just stopped at the windmills because I ran out of gas. |
| 19:41.43 | RyanE | Have to keep some in the tank for riding back up the Timp Highway back to Highland. |
| 19:42.25 | spangborn | So I grabbed that bike |
| 19:42.43 | spangborn | Serial number didn't show as stolen anywhere I looked |
| 19:42.47 | spangborn | It needs some love |
| 19:43.00 | spangborn | And the guy knew enough about it to convince me that it was his |
| 20:05.39 | SunSparc | spangborn: Congrats on your new transportation. |
| 20:05.56 | spangborn | Thanks. It's my third bike, but N+1 |
| 20:06.04 | spangborn | I've got three road bikes presently. |
| 20:07.29 | SunSparc | Of course. You can always have one more bike. :) |
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| 20:10.17 | SunSparc | https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwsBLH8sPDB15jmTI0tDTzcr1vkai98ZVWoT444tW2gRM1rec9 |
| 20:12.53 | spangborn | Haha, my wife did laugh at me. |
| 20:12.59 | spangborn | "Where are you going to put this one?" |
| 20:13.13 | spangborn | Currently someone is borrowing one of mine, so it's really not mine currently ;p |
| 20:13.21 | spangborn | Currently, redundancy ugh |
| 20:13.38 | SunSparc | Right now. |
| 20:19.07 | spangborn | I need coffee |
| 20:20.28 | SunSparc | ~coffee |
| 20:20.28 | infobot | it has been said that coffee is the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage |
| 20:20.32 | SunSparc | ~coffee spangborn |
| 20:20.32 | infobot | ACTION steals some of gnord's special coffee and gives it to spangborn on a silver platter. |
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| 20:54.39 | infobot | ACTION reboots spangborn's computer |
| 22:19.47 | gnord | infobot: Thanks for taking that special coffee off my hands, I've been trying to get rid of it since I joined this channel. |
| 22:19.47 | infobot | gnord: de rien |
| 22:20.30 | gnord | spangborn: you're it! |
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| 22:28.52 | aeryndunham | today has been quite a day |
| 22:42.02 | romanovic | aeryndunham: in a good or bad way? |
| 22:43.40 | aeryndunham | romanovic: Internet here is pretty much broken for passengers for about 24 hours |
| 22:43.48 | aeryndunham | and you'd think we're out of food and water with how they've reacted |
| 22:44.52 | SunSparc | Does your Internet problem have anything to do with the DDOS on Dyn? |
| 22:49.31 | romanovic | hah. I'll expect one of those news stories like that Carnival ship that had power outage issues causing overflowing toilets and other indignities |
| 22:49.50 | romanovic | "It was horrible, without internet we resorted to wandering aimlessly around the deck, with sea breezes getting into our lungs and everything" |
| 22:52.03 | aeryndunham | haha last night there was no internet and no TV |
| 22:52.06 | aeryndunham | people were lost |
| 22:52.12 | aeryndunham | I was like TALK TO YOUR FAMILIES |
| 22:56.37 | romanovic | did you get any more emails giving an ETA? or is 24 hrs just a guess and they don't know how long it is going to take? |
| 22:57.30 | aeryndunham | It was 100% down for 3 hours last night, just this ship |
| 22:57.43 | aeryndunham | and then all day today it's been technically up but nearly unusable |
| 22:57.52 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠last time I was on a cruise, having no internet was a perk. |
| 22:57.53 | aeryndunham | and that was fleet-wide |
| 22:58.17 | aeryndunham | programmerq: Despite it being my job to sell people internet, I feel the same |
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| 23:20.27 | aeryndunham | There's a woman in here now cheking her account... these people are so cheap that the company owes HER money at the end of the cruise. So many credits. |
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| 23:39.05 | aeryndunham | .... I went through 3/4 a thing of toner TODAY |
| 23:39.13 | aeryndunham | can't with this job anymore |
| 23:40.30 | klys | you spend most of your time at work tho |
| 23:40.51 | aeryndunham | I spend basically all of my time at work :p |
| 23:40.58 | aeryndunham | I just need a day off |
| 23:41.27 | klys | are you saving up for a house |
| 23:42.12 | klys | or even a boat |
| 23:42.36 | aeryndunham | Not really, between my student loans and having a life I don't manage to save very much |
| 23:42.44 | klys | oh yeah |
| 23:42.50 | aeryndunham | Yes, we don't pay rent, but our salaries definitely take that into account |
| 23:43.13 | klys | if you were to work FT, where would you go |
| 23:43.31 | aeryndunham | You mean if I moved back to land? |
| 23:43.35 | klys | yeah |
| 23:43.46 | klys | so that you could work 40 hrs |
| 23:44.20 | aeryndunham | hopes to move to British Columbia |
| 23:44.29 | klys | I know that |
| 23:44.40 | klys | is it a good deal to live and work there? |
| 23:44.47 | aeryndunham | I'd have to see |
| 23:45.10 | klys | you've seen a lot of places |
| 23:45.30 | klys | do you ever look into the cost of living |
| 23:46.36 | klys | I remember oklahoma was a p.cheap place to live |
| 23:46.46 | joshh | of course |
| 23:46.49 | joshh | nobody lives there by choice |
| 23:47.05 | joshh | only ignorance or family obligation |
| 23:47.08 | klys | aww I met loads of people there |
| 23:47.22 | klys | and some of them were quite clear on liking it |
| 23:48.06 | klys | not too hot, not too cold |
| 23:48.11 | klys | etc. |
| 23:49.33 | RyanE | #1 complaint in OK: Too close to Texas. :) |
| 23:50.03 | klys | oklahoma residents used to attend the Dallas Temple |
| 23:50.07 | aeryndunham | I thought they had finally fixed passenger internet and NOPE |
| 23:50.20 | klys | now there's one in Surrey Hills just west of OKC |
| 23:51.45 | klys | aeryndunham, are they still considering rebooting the server? |
| 23:52.09 | RyanE | aeryndunham: whatever you do, *don't* reboot the ship. :) |
| 23:52.22 | klys | if they do actually move forward and reboot, it would be nice to compare the output of ps waux and the output of lsof |
| 23:52.27 | aeryndunham | klys: They did eventually reboot, 3 hours after the outage last night |
| 23:52.31 | aeryndunham | today is different |
| 23:52.37 | aeryndunham | last night was just our ship, today is fleet-wide |
| 23:52.47 | RyanE | could be related to the DNS outage. |
| 23:52.55 | aeryndunham | I wondered that |
| 23:53.04 | aeryndunham | if it somehow was affecting even us |
| 23:53.06 | RyanE | i.e. if Carnival's websites / services are on Dyn, they could be effected. |
| 23:53.15 | klys | is it sattelite? |
| 23:53.27 | aeryndunham | I almost printed out an article about ti be like "sorry, guys, the WHOLE INTERNET" is down |
| 23:55.36 | aeryndunham | klys: yeah, satellite |
| 23:55.40 | klys | oh ok |
| 23:55.54 | klys | how cloudy is it tonight? |
| 23:56.02 | aeryndunham | But yeah oddly coincidental that we have a fleet-wide internet disaster the same day as this Dyn thing |
| 23:59.08 | aeryndunham | It had seemed better but now no |
| 23:59.17 | aeryndunham | it's a "i need to print my boarding pass" frenzy in here and every page is itming out |
| 23:59.20 | aeryndunham | *timing out |
| 23:59.50 | aeryndunham | anyway, I'm out for the night |
| 23:59.58 | klys | good night |