IRC log for #utah on 20161020

01:34.43eightyeightif anyone is bored tonight, and want some crypto puzzles to solve: https://keybase.pub/atoponce/coins/
02:16.16klys~slashdot
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17:50.27SunSparc~rlart
17:50.30infobotforces pashdown to use Outlook Express
17:50.42pashdownnooooooooo
17:50.45HeartsbaneThat is just rude.
17:50.48SunSparclol
17:51.14SunSparcNot too many things worse than that. :)
17:51.20jlp_zncthat lart should be updated to say office 365
17:51.40SunSparcjlp_znc: Is Office 365 worse than Outlook Express?
17:51.59SunSparcused OE for a brief period, long ago...
17:52.05jlp_zncI guess outlook express might be worse, but office 365 is pretty horriffic.
17:52.54SunSparcWhat? I just read that Windows is the most open platform there is: http://www.zdnet.com/article/nadella-windows-is-the-most-open-platform-there-is/
17:53.48jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc
17:55.50SunSparcHaha, Bon jour
17:57.20jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
18:02.42SunSparcAh yes, the Expert. Excellent video and so painful to watch because it is so true.
18:05.14jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFzXaFbxDcM  it's my youtube day, I guess
18:08.52jfindlay~napoleon
18:08.52infobotSweet!  That's like a dollar an hour!
18:19.20jlp_znc~middleman
18:19.21infobotSweet Molly Brown!
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19:37.51SunSparc~1337
19:37.51infobotrumour has it, 1337 is zwampy
19:44.29unummy house address is 1377, so close
20:00.26jfindlay~rot13 unum
20:00.26infobothahz
20:00.46spangborn~rot13 rot13
20:00.46infobotebg13
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20:11.31SunSparcunum: That is pretty cool.
20:11.53SunSparc~rot13 jfindlay
20:11.53infobotwsvaqynl
20:12.11SunSparc~rot13 wsvaqynl
20:12.11infobotjfindlay
20:12.16jlp_znc~encrypt SunSparc
20:12.16infobotACTION ~rot13 SunSparc
20:12.22jlp_zncheh
20:12.24SunSparc:)
20:12.49jlp_zncremember when brigham was here?  you could get them talking to each other.
20:13.27jlp_znc~seen brigham
20:13.30infoboti haven't seen 'brigham', jlp_znc
20:13.30SunSparcI must not have been active in this channel when brigham was around.
20:13.46SunSparcUh oh, someone wiped her memory.
20:13.51spangborn~seen dialup
20:13.51infobotspangborn: i haven't seen 'dialup'
20:13.58jfindlaySunSparc: that was when infobot was called ibot
20:14.00jlp_zncbrigham was another bot.  sadly, he was lost in a disk crash.  
20:14.06SunSparcI remember ibot.
20:14.12jfindlayjlp_znc: I thought is was brac
20:14.14jfindlay~seen hans
20:14.15infobotjfindlay: i haven't seen 'hans'
20:14.17jfindlay~seen elg
20:14.17infobotelg <~fugalh@199.201.64.134> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 395d 1h 56m 35s ago, saying: 'fozzmoo and Jayce^ have been keeping it hidden from the IRC riff-raff it seems ;-)'.
20:14.25spangbornI wrote a turntable bot once
20:14.35jlp_znchmmm, for some reason I remember brigham, but I also remember brac
20:14.38jlp_znc~seen brac
20:14.38infoboti haven't seen 'brac', jlp_znc
20:14.45spangbornIt did analysis on what music was played in a room
20:14.46jfindlaycould have been renamed
20:14.50spangbornAnd would attempt to copy it
20:14.53SunSparcspangborn: For turntable.fm?
20:14.54spangbornIf it was popular
20:14.56spangbornYep
20:15.12spangbornThe bot built a playlist of what music was popular in a given room and would play that music
20:15.14SunSparcmisses turntable.fm
20:15.29jlp_zncwhat happened to turntable.fm?
20:15.33spangbornThey shut down
20:15.43SunSparcThey moved on.
20:15.50spangbornI'd guess the licensing of the music got to be a problem
20:15.56SunSparcPerhaps.
20:16.02SunSparcThat is too often the case.
20:16.02jlp_zncprobably
20:16.07spangbornAnd people uploading their own music got them in trouble
20:16.26spangbornI still don't know where their music came from. maybe it was all uploaded
20:16.27SunSparcCan't have people listen to music or watch movies unless it is done a certain way.
20:16.48jlp_zncand certain people get their cut
20:16.57spangbornThe bot was a fun project though.
20:17.03jlp_znc(not necessarily the people who made the music or movies, either)
20:17.05spangbornWritten in Node.js because Turntable just used websockets
20:17.36spangbornTurntable required a Facebook account, so the bot used my wife's account
20:17.41spangbornHeh
20:18.20jlp_znchttps://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/turntable-fm-shutting-down-so-company-can-focus-on-turntable-live-events-platform/
20:20.39spangbornSheesh $20K a month
20:27.20SunSparcYeah
20:39.25*** join/#utah aarobc (~aarobc@208.64.91.82.static.utbb.net)
21:06.11SunSparcFor all your lolcode syntax highlighting needs in vim: https://github.com/Xe/lolcode.vim
21:07.14jfindlaynice
21:08.07spangbornHm, but where's the nano support?
21:08.08spangbornducks
21:08.36SunSparc~duck spangborn
21:08.39infobotACTION gives spangborn a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels spangborn with its big white wings.
21:10.02SunSparcpico > nano
21:10.42jfindlayyocto
21:12.27SunSparcis unfamiliar with yocto
21:12.30SunSparc~yocto
21:14.21jfindlaythe last two prefixes on the top and the bottom are zepto and yocto, with the idea that future prefixes could be added going backwards along the latin alphabet
21:14.30jfindlayzetta, yotta
21:14.55jfindlayyobibyte yoctibyte
21:15.40SunSparcyoctofindlay
21:44.40SunSparcEver use the command command?
21:44.52SunSparcTry googling that one. :)
21:44.57spangborn~command
21:45.05spangborn~command command
21:45.11spangborn~command command command
21:45.14spangbornHah
21:45.18spangbornHeh
21:45.19SunSparcI finally found this: http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_aix_72/com.ibm.aix.cmds1/command.htm
21:47.12SunSparcSeems to be supported on Linux and OS X.
21:47.54SunSparcFound it being used in a debian packaging postinst file.
22:01.15RyanEspangborn: In our (Windows) Installer software, we call the dialog you use to control a device the "Control Control".  Confuses everyone.
22:01.36spangbornBahaha
22:01.41*** join/#utah aeryndunham (~jacki@172.56.7.150)
22:03.24RyanEmade perfect sense to the original Windows app developer, 10+ years ago.
22:03.37spangbornIt looks like Java
22:03.41spangbornObject object
22:03.44spangbornOr Javascript, heh
22:03.51spangborn[Object object]
22:04.03RyanEI object!
22:04.24spangbornObject object = new Object(); object.object();
22:04.44spangborn.object() being different than .object
22:04.54spangbornthe former being the verb, the latter being the noun
22:06.31aeryndunhamPassenger internet has been down for an hour and a half and I'm tired of passengers yelling at me :(
22:06.59spangbornaeryndunham: Well sounds like you should fix it, if your internet works ;p
22:07.11aeryndunhamhaha I'm using my phone's lTE
22:07.13aeryndunhamlte
22:07.25spangbornHaha, so it's not just passenger internet?
22:07.26aeryndunhamand if I could fix it myself it would have been fixed an hour ago
22:08.18spangbornThat's because you're too efficient.
22:08.21spangbornCan't have that.
22:08.23aeryndunhamhaha
22:08.49spangbornWow, I guess people at work are complaining about our new security desk receptionist.
22:08.54spangbornSaying she's "too friendly"
22:09.07spangbornTIL security people are expected to be jerks
22:09.30jfindlaylame
22:09.31aeryndunhamgod dammit people
22:09.53spangbornMaybe they're deluded enough to think she's hitting on them and uncomfortable with an attractive female doing that.
22:10.17spangbornPeople are weird.
22:10.42jfindlay'security' doesn't mean anything anymore.  I find 'surveillance' an appropriate substitute
22:11.30aeryndunhama woman just asked me if it was safe to do banking on our network and I said sure, banking sites themselves are secure and when you log out of your internet session on our computers everything you've done gets deleted
22:11.32spangbornI personally like her.
22:11.34aeryndunhamand then she told me I was stupid and wrong
22:11.45spangbornaeryndunham: I'm in ur network sniffin ur packets
22:12.19spangbornI suppose she could believe that your machines could be infected with keylogging malware
22:12.28spangbornIn which case she isn't completely off-base
22:12.33aeryndunhamI wanted to be like "Madam. Most of our guests don't know how to check their email, definitely none have managed to install keylogging software."
22:13.01spangbornUntil my next cruise
22:13.02spangborndun dun dun
22:13.08aeryndunhamthey keep coming and asking me for an estimate of when it will be back online and I cannot say "I have no idea" enough ways
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22:13.25aeryndunhamthey have no idea how to use the internet but they are in a blind panic without it
22:13.28spangbornJust start translating it into random languages
22:13.34spangbornAnd use a new one each time
22:13.37aeryndunhamhaha
22:14.14unumhttp://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/larry-lessig-has-a-very-good-attitude.html
22:14.24unumlessig will always be president in my heart :)
22:14.33spangbornHaha, that is fantastic
22:15.07aeryndunhamoh, good, now I'm being lectures on how other cruise lines have much better internet
22:15.13aeryndunhamgo sail there then
22:15.19aeryndunham(they aren't wrong, but what do they want me to do)
22:15.42aeryndunhamanyway apologies for bursting in and yelling about our stupid network, carry on
22:16.07spangbornHaha, you're good!
22:16.20spangbornTether your LTE to the cruise ship network pls
22:16.27aeryndunhamlol
22:16.53spangbornI'm always amazed at the people who insist on being online on a cruise
22:17.03spangbornI like the time spent off the grid
22:17.22aeryndunhamme too
22:17.43aeryndunhamI mean I do have unlimited data but I don't think t-mobile would appreciate me sharing with 3600 passengers very much :p
22:20.40spangbornHaha
22:21.00spangbornI imagine that'd get you on the "network abusers" list pretty quickly
22:21.05aeryndunhamhaha yep
22:21.56RyanEcouldn't care about emails from work while on cruise, but from kids... yeah.
22:22.27aeryndunhamIt's literally my job to sell people internet on a cruise, but I see the appeal in being like "No, we don't have Internet. Talk to the people you came with. Enjoy the ship. Disconnect."
22:23.14RyanEheh
22:23.29RyanELast cruise, 10 years ago it was: these 3 computers, expensive.
22:23.35aeryndunhamwe give free minutes to people in certain tiers of our loyalty program and it drives me nuts to see them sitting down here playing facebook games
22:23.50spangbornaeryndunham: Yeah, my in-laws are platinum with your cruise line
22:24.13spangbornI'm beginning to think there might be a "too much time spent on a cruise ship"
22:26.32aeryndunhamits actually not hard to get to platinum
22:26.34aeryndunham5 crusies
22:28.18aeryndunhamThe Platinum/Elites are a huge issue because they are only using the internet because its free but have no flipping idea HOW to use the internet
22:31.22aeryndunhamwas unprepared for the level of computer illiteracy she'd be dealing with in this job
22:31.35RyanEwell, cruises == old people, right?  :)
22:31.39aeryndunhamespecially here
22:31.55RyanEhey you kids!!! Get off my Cruise!!
22:31.56spangbornTIL aeryndunham is female
22:32.07RyanEheh
22:32.14RyanEI think IL yesterday.  :)
22:32.14spangbornNever really paid any attention to that.
22:32.19spangbornSorry if that's weird
22:32.21aeryndunhamlast i checked, anyway ;)
22:32.23aeryndunhamhaha no worries
22:32.52spangbornThat's cool though. Girl nerds ftw
22:32.57spangbornWorld needs more of them.
22:33.00aeryndunhamhaha thanks
22:33.36aeryndunham2+ hours since internet went down and I FINALLY get an email - "we have not yet reached a solution." THANKS GUYS.
22:33.41spangbornWhoops
22:36.33aeryndunhamoooh email just now from the 1st Electronics Officer - our TV system is down too
22:36.35aeryndunhamsomething weird going on
22:36.58spangbornThat's quite the title
22:37.35RyanEnow 100% of the people on the ship are not being entertained...  :)
22:38.03RyanEShuffleboard on the Lido Deck!!! STAT!!!!!!
22:41.47aeryndunhamhaha
22:42.07aeryndunhamfun fact: I used to be entertainment staff so shuffleboard was part of my job
22:43.18RyanEheh
22:43.45spangbornIs the best part of working on a cruise ship the free rent? ;p
22:44.09aeryndunhamhaha I think our wages take into account the "free rent" but it is nice not to worry about it
22:44.32spangbornI talked to a yoga instructor on the Crown and she was pretty happy with that aspect of it
22:44.54spangbornShe was also making obscenely good money
22:45.06spangbornWhich I guess if you consider you're not paying for food/housing, you could save quite a bit.
22:45.49spangbornI suppose she was a "yogi" not a yoga instructor.
22:45.57spangbornTerminology
22:45.58aeryndunhamahh the yoga instructor would have worked for Steiner, not Princess, and they are on a crazy different pay scale (commission ONLY), and on a good run they can make a killing
22:46.08aeryndunhamHmmmm girl fitness instructor on the Crown, I bet it was Sam
22:46.32spangbornMakes sense.
22:46.45spangbornPlus you get the travel benefits, which is pretty rad.
22:46.58aeryndunhamyeah the travel is pretty cool
22:49.37aeryndunhamhas been a lot of places
23:23.16aeryndunhamdang, 3 hours
23:23.21aeryndunhamthat was a much longer outage than usual
23:28.48aeryndunhamand less than 10 mins to have every computer in here full again
23:37.10aeryndunham"We are still analyzing the root cause of the issues. The issue was fixed by rebooting the server."
23:37.18aeryndunhamit took THREE HOURS for someone to decide to reboot the server?????
23:40.33jlp_zncif it were a windows machine that should have been the first step!
23:43.19aeryndunhamI'm stunned
23:48.04jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4akOH8v8Q&t=68

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