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| 17:30.07 | SunSparc | Need some good headphones for a good price? http://dro.ps/b/6XMqqSC |
| 17:51.29 | SunSparc | An iOS (or other devs) looking for work? http://www.control4.com/company/careers |
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| 17:56.55 | youtah | TodPunk, like my rant? |
| 17:57.35 | youtah | It's driven me crazy. There is one guy, I met at a GOP function, that is one of the worst offenders of posting links to bogus sites. |
| 17:57.39 | youtah | Probably, ever. |
| 17:58.42 | SunSparc | gave up on political parties years ago |
| 18:02.24 | manithree | TIL: A vote for Trump is a vote for Clinton |
| 18:02.45 | youtah | and a vote for Clinton is a vote for Trump |
| 18:02.53 | youtah | which is a vote for McMullen |
| 18:02.57 | youtah | which is a vote for Gary |
| 18:03.02 | youtah | which is a vote for Trump |
| 18:03.18 | jima | which is a vote for Kodos |
| 18:03.19 | youtah | someone should diagram this |
| 18:05.18 | SunSparc | ~diagram |
| 18:05.18 | infobot | diagram are two monograms |
| 18:07.22 | manithree | Can I get a diagrammed sweater? |
| 18:07.31 | youtah | someone should diaphram this... keep it from reproducing votes |
| 18:08.09 | youtah | diaphragm* |
| 18:08.15 | youtah | TIL it has a G in it |
| 18:12.42 | youtah | So, I got an HDCP with my Dish Receiver and Sony TV last night |
| 18:12.47 | youtah | first I had ever even heard of it |
| 18:12.51 | youtah | that was kind of fun |
| 18:13.36 | SunSparc | ~hdcp |
| 18:13.40 | SunSparc | High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection? |
| 18:13.47 | youtah | yes |
| 18:14.27 | manithree | The DRM in HDMI |
| 18:14.31 | youtah | yup |
| 18:14.37 | youtah | pretty cool |
| 18:14.38 | SunSparc | Sounds terrible. |
| 18:14.45 | youtah | I was reading up on it |
| 18:14.48 | youtah | lol SunSparc |
| 18:15.26 | SunSparc | is not a fan of DRM |
| 18:15.34 | SunSparc | youtah: What do you like about it? |
| 18:15.45 | youtah | that it's clever tech |
| 18:15.50 | youtah | although it doesn't work at times apparently |
| 18:15.52 | youtah | https://twitter.com/youtah/status/787858488865067008 |
| 18:16.05 | youtah | Apparently it is hurting Blueray |
| 18:18.30 | SunSparc | Clever tech is cool, for the sake of cool tech, but when it causes more problems it should just stay in a museum. |
| 18:18.33 | SunSparc | :D |
| 18:18.50 | youtah | +1 |
| 18:21.01 | manithree | It's almost universally reviled by MythTV fans |
| 18:25.19 | levi | No kidding. |
| 18:26.47 | levi | I think someone in my office has a copy of the HDCP spec, but apparently we didn't end up doing anything with it. |
| 19:26.00 | Vibrasian | my cat's no longer safe, youtah. |
| 19:28.33 | youtah | Vibrasian, RIGHT?! |
| 19:28.39 | youtah | CrAZY CRAZY! |
| 19:28.48 | youtah | I want to blame TodPunk some how. |
| 19:29.47 | Vibrasian | I'll just play league of legends and pretend that I didn't learn about that.. |
| 19:29.51 | Vibrasian | :) |
| 19:30.11 | youtah | the two cat theifs? |
| 19:30.46 | Vibrasian | yeah, I just saw your twitter post. |
| 19:30.56 | youtah | I mean, seriously |
| 19:30.59 | youtah | who does that? |
| 19:31.04 | Vibrasian | posing as officers then taking a poor woman's cat |
| 19:31.13 | youtah | I suspect they were looking for somethign inside her house |
| 19:31.18 | youtah | didn't see what they were looking for |
| 19:31.29 | youtah | so they decided just to steal her cat because they were a-holes |
| 19:31.29 | TodPunk | HDCP is interesting academically, terrible in a business or tech sense |
| 19:32.09 | programmerq | I don't know that much about it. |
| 19:32.13 | programmerq | goes off to wikipedia |
| 19:35.45 | programmerq | so it's just hardware encryption and a set of rules that tell manufacturers "keep the keys secret" ? |
| 19:36.34 | TodPunk | it's signal encryption, yeah |
| 19:37.11 | TodPunk | but it's digital so you're looking at something you can't just ignore on the other end of the HDMI line, unlike say Macrovision on VHS programs |
| 19:37.30 | jfindlay | I thought encryption was supposed to have a mandatory back door |
| 19:37.44 | TodPunk | I had a sony DVD and VCR combo that you could rip VHS tapes to DVD with |
| 19:37.49 | TodPunk | great for the home movies |
| 19:38.22 | TodPunk | but transferring some of the hollywood movies it would just error saying there was a Macrovision encryption on the VHS and it couldn't copy it |
| 19:38.42 | TodPunk | jfindlay: like all DRM, well, yes =cP |
| 19:39.29 | youtah | Check out this low quality gif http://imgur.com/gallery/Qa1a2ef |
| 19:40.04 | programmerq | when we were kids, my parents got a 9" TV with built-in VCR for road trips. They wanted to eliminate the number of tapes that we had to bring. they got a 9 hour tape and tried recording some disney movies. the colors were all messed up, so they gave up. |
| 19:40.22 | programmerq | I remember reading about VHS copy protection and that was some copy protection mechanism |
| 19:41.12 | programmerq | googles again |
| 19:41.22 | programmerq | yup, that is a symptom of the macrovision protection |
| 20:18.01 | manithree | might own a "video stabilizer" that might also strip Macrovision from VHS signals |
| 20:19.07 | manithree | or maybe that got lost in a tragic boating accident |
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| 20:56.09 | programmerq | I definitely store all my VHS tapes at the marina |
| 20:57.52 | jfindlay | in a container? |
| 20:57.54 | jfindlay | har |
| 20:58.12 | romanovic | anyone have a monospace programmer font they can recommend? I don't have standard resolution at work (stuck at 1080p), and at the small size I use my fonts, they render ugly |
| 20:58.41 | romanovic | tried Inconsolata and Source Code Pro, do not like. |
| 20:59.05 | romanovic | goes back to Courier New for the time being |
| 20:59.43 | jfindlay | romanovic: if you're willing to try a bitmap font, I love lucida typewriter. It is really readable at small sizes, but you have to tune the point size to eliminate garbling |
| 20:59.55 | eightyeight | i've always enjoyed the liberation font |
| 21:00.04 | eightyeight | in addition to dejavu sans |
| 21:00.14 | eightyeight | which is sort of the accepted default |
| 21:00.59 | romanovic | thanks, I'll try them out |
| 21:02.27 | romanovic | has relatively good vision, wants the font teeny tiny so he can scroll less and see more of the code on screen at the same time |
| 21:27.27 | jfindlay | so, github finally made it impossible to use itsalltext to edit gists |
| 21:27.46 | jfindlay | does anyone know of a good any other way to edit github gists with vim? |
| 21:27.52 | jfindlay | freaking github |
| 21:32.02 | eightyeight | i've always edited my gists in vim first, run grip(1) to check their MD syntax, then when satisfied, copy/paste in the browser |
| 21:33.44 | fadein | eightyeight: grip(1), as in the GNOME frontend to cdparanoia for ripping audio CD's? |
| 21:38.07 | levi | romanovic: I use Fira Mono, or Fira Code. |
| 21:39.01 | levi | romanovic: It's relatively narrow, renders fairly nicely at small sizes, etc. |
| 21:41.17 | levi | Fira Code also has fancy ligatures you can enable if you like that sort of thing. |
| 21:45.47 | jfindlay | levi: a fixed-width font with ligatures? :) |
| 21:46.13 | jfindlay | fadein: must be a really useful tool |
| 21:46.15 | jfindlay | from the 90s |
| 21:47.01 | jfindlay | eightyeight: I may do that for now. The problem is I need to create lots of long pastes |
| 21:47.07 | jfindlay | regularly |
| 21:48.36 | jfindlay | and unlike the rest of the site, gist doesn't let you preview |
| 21:48.47 | eightyeight | which is why grip(1) is nice |
| 21:49.05 | jfindlay | yeah |
| 21:50.57 | eightyeight | i've actually been playing with `<html contenteditable>' in my URL, with javascript, to create a quick-and-dirty markdown <textarea> and auto-preview with javascript |
| 21:51.30 | eightyeight | with javascript, in case you were confused |
| 21:57.07 | jfindlay | why not with just java? |
| 21:57.29 | jfindlay | also, why hasn't oracle sued the world yet over the name javascript? |
| 21:58.03 | Migs | you think they should? |
| 21:58.52 | eightyeight | it's under license, actually |
| 21:59.03 | eightyeight | `JavaScript' is a trademark of Oracle |
| 22:00.26 | Migs | TIL |
| 22:01.05 | Migs | Netscape -> AOL -> Sun -> Oracle. Nice. |
| 22:07.11 | romanovic | I think Oracle should try to sue. Sometimes I think companies still get away with licensing things that should be unlicenseable/un-trademark-able/unpatentable because they haven't pushed people to the edge with bogus IP litigation yet |
| 22:07.45 | levi | jfindlay: They're not your standard ligatures; they're more like turning -> into an arrow glyph, etc. And it maintains proper monospace spacing, so the double-character ligatures take up two spaces. |
| 22:07.49 | romanovic | better to see them spiral down and then self-destruct |
| 22:08.06 | eightyeight | romanovic: sue mozilla? who purchased a license from oracle to the trademark? |
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| 22:09.09 | romanovic | eightyeight: no, sue "the world" like jfindlay says |
| 22:09.47 | eightyeight | so, sue me? because i'm using the language from a browser vendor, who has licensed its use? |
| 22:11.25 | jfindlay | levi: cool |
| 22:12.11 | romanovic | yes. I'm saying that in jest, of course, because if they sued everyone, people would realise "how is 'javascript' a legal trademark, I don't think it can be" and would be more damaging to Oracle in the long run |
| 22:13.08 | romanovic | is trying to make the opposite of an IP maximalist argument here |
| 22:13.17 | jfindlay | romanovic: I don't have confidence that oracle would be aware of any fraction of the sense in that assertion |
| 22:13.22 | levi | jfindlay: https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode |
| 22:27.28 | unum | iirc orignally netscape called it lightscript |
| 22:27.53 | unum | than renamed it as a part of a misguided cross marketing attempt with Sun |
| 22:28.06 | unum | of course you could just call it ECMA script |
| 22:29.18 | eightyeight | although, it's not |
| 22:29.31 | eightyeight | afaik, no javascript implementation is 100% EMCAScript |
| 22:30.30 | jfindlay | or junkscript |
| 22:30.57 | jfindlay | that's about all the respect I'm often willing to afford such a badly designed language |
| 22:31.14 | eightyeight | the fact that numbers are only 64-bits (52-bit mantissa and 12-bit exponent) are enough to drive me batt-schitt crazy |
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| 22:37.38 | romanovic | haha. in related news, I woke up this morning and thought to myself, "I really wish I had another package manager to further complicate my javascript bundling, building, and release process". (not really) |
| 22:38.21 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 22:38.27 | romanovic | but it's here all the same. "Yarn: A new package manager for JavaScript" https://code.facebook.com/posts/1840075619545360 |
| 22:38.56 | eightyeight | complete with emojis! |
| 22:38.58 | eightyeight | \o/ |
| 22:39.58 | aeryndunham | I'm trying to get an iPad to print to my office printer and this is waaaaaay harder than it should be |
| 22:53.06 | jfindlay | romanovic: lol |
| 22:54.39 | jfindlay | I tried to keep up with javascript once. When I realized that revolutionary new frameworks and tools were coming out every day I lost interest |
| 22:55.01 | jfindlay | also, every node tutorial I found was out of date and didn't work |
| 23:01.10 | aeryndunham | my blog host runs on node and daaaang was it a pain to get going |
| 23:31.50 | levi | There's no need to use Yarn if NPM works fine for you. They use the same package db. |
| 23:33.09 | levi | I lost interest in javascript for casual programming when all the libraries I tried to use were broken and my code bitrotted almost instantly as the libraries were developed and changed rapidly. |
| 23:33.48 | levi | And with no types, figuring out what was broken and fixing it was not worth my time. |
| 23:34.31 | levi | This would be less troublesome if you were actively developing something on a daily basis, but this was just a hobby thing that I'd hack on occasionally and then put away for a while. |