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| 01:36.53 | klys | new x86emu/dos/emx/vcpi meta-release http://45.55.20.239/x86emu007.zip |
| 02:49.12 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 15:02.27 | jholtom | jlp_znc: if you're still curious, you can usually saturate your upload bandwidth uploading to google drive |
| 15:03.17 | jholtom | so you can just do the math (or have wolfram alpha do it) of 250GB at 50megabits/s and see what the time is |
| 15:09.43 | TodPunk | can not |
| 15:10.03 | TodPunk | I have a gigabit connection, though, so it's sort of more difficult |
| 15:10.12 | TodPunk | peering is usually the reason this fails |
| 15:11.46 | jholtom | yeah |
| 15:12.01 | jholtom | I'm assuming you don't have the magic of fiber here :P |
| 15:12.13 | TodPunk | CenturyLink fiber |
| 15:13.03 | jholtom | ah |
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| 15:33.12 | eightyeight | unum: started book 5. hoping to rip through the next 4-5 before taking a break, and reading some others again. |
| 15:33.31 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 15:33.31 | infobot | Girls only like guys who have great skills: Nun-chuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. |
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| 16:05.35 | jholtom | .ws 7 |
| 16:05.42 | jholtom | yeah great job self |
| 16:05.49 | keldwud | hey what's a good ramen place downtown SLC? I didn't even know we had ramen places |
| 16:05.54 | keldwud | but apparently we do |
| 16:06.18 | keldwud | also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmECL2ED2I |
| 16:08.41 | TodPunk | holy hell, keldwud, where have you been? |
| 16:09.10 | keldwud | TodPunk: working my butt off! |
| 16:09.16 | keldwud | devops is BIZZZY holy cow |
| 16:09.23 | keldwud | I haven't been ignoring you guys on purpose |
| 16:09.30 | keldwud | well, yeah, actually I have. so I can get work done :) |
| 16:10.20 | jholtom | work is lame |
| 16:10.45 | TodPunk | lame lameness |
| 16:20.57 | jlp_znc | keldwud! you're alive! |
| 16:29.18 | jfindlay | ~napoleon keldwud |
| 16:29.18 | infobot | ACTION eats all of keldwud's steak |
| 16:32.54 | jfindlay | keldwud: I would have said Plum Alley, but they closed a couple of years ago |
| 16:33.22 | jfindlay | would have been very close to your building too |
| 17:12.09 | keldwud | dang |
| 17:12.31 | keldwud | so somebody mentioned koko's kitchen and Tosh's |
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| 17:23.21 | keldwud | tonkotsu it is |
| 17:23.42 | keldwud | tosh's is not worth the lines, I hear, and koko's is always mediocre. it's fun but mediocre |
| 17:28.40 | jfindlay | another day of jfindlay vs homebrew |
| 17:29.05 | jfindlay | better than jfindlay vs macports, as much as I wanted to believe |
| 17:34.11 | jholtom | lol macports and homebrew |
| 17:34.13 | jholtom | you poor thing |
| 17:45.26 | jlp_znc | what evil is homebrew inflicting on you today, jfindlay? |
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| 18:05.08 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: not much actually. For the most part brew has been awesome |
| 18:05.38 | jfindlay | it has some hacks under the hood, but I wonder how much of that is enforced by MacOS ridiculousness |
| 18:05.55 | jfindlay | my goal for today is to get brew installed noninteractively |
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| 19:00.26 | TodPunk | jfindlay: I /much/ prefer macports for the limited exposure I've had to both |
| 19:00.33 | TodPunk | I know the webdev hipsters prefer homebrew |
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| 19:17.09 | aeryndunham | \o good afternoon |
| 19:17.56 | fadein | aeryndunham: howdy, howdy |
| 19:18.10 | joshh | isn't macports dead? |
| 19:18.17 | joshh | i think homebrew definitely has more stuff at this point |
| 19:18.25 | joshh | but i havcen't used macports for years |
| 19:20.41 | programmerq | long live fink! |
| 19:22.25 | joshh | i recently switched to a thinkpad t460s with debian testing |
| 19:22.30 | joshh | and am rapidly forgetting how to use macs |
| 19:26.30 | keldwud | so we ended up going to tonkotsu. it was pretty good. actually, it was delicious. |
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| 19:27.34 | jfindlay | TodPunk: I prefer macports to brew in the same way I prefer gentoo to ubunt |
| 19:27.47 | jfindlay | but brew is just simpler and I don't care that much |
| 19:28.25 | jfindlay | if I were forced to use MacOS as my primary system, I might reconsider |
| 19:28.43 | jfindlay | but this is for CI testing |
| 19:29.11 | levi | There's nix packages for OS X/macOS/whatever too. |
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| 19:31.20 | levi | But if you're going for low barriers to entry, that's probably even less attractive than MacPorts. |
| 19:33.28 | TodPunk | keldwud: I don't know why I would go somewhere else for ramen than my house. |
| 19:33.35 | TodPunk | $0.22 to boot |
| 19:33.50 | levi | I had leftover LDUG pizza for lunch. |
| 19:33.55 | levi | And a leftover donut. |
| 19:34.00 | keldwud | TodPunk: psshh |
| 19:34.28 | jfindlay | somewhat related: if you're using linked clones in parallels to create VMs quickly, be sure to clean out the implicit snapshots regularly, otherwise parallels will become unusably slow |
| 19:36.06 | levi | I haven't tried parallels; I use VirtualBox. |
| 19:36.32 | levi | There's the BSD-based thing Docker is using on the mac too, but I don't know much about it. |
| 19:36.37 | jfindlay | we tried virtualbox at one point |
| 19:36.54 | jfindlay | we may also try vmware |
| 19:38.16 | jfindlay | I may be paranoid, but I don't trust containers to be representative enough of a real system to give honest results on our 6000+ tests |
| 19:38.26 | levi | https://github.com/docker/HyperKit/ |
| 19:38.46 | jfindlay | it may be fine for most, but there are some I'm unsure about. Worth researching, though |
| 19:39.38 | levi | Docker for Mac and Docker for Windows both run in a VM, but all the containers share that VM. |
| 19:39.56 | levi | Docker for Windows uses Hyper-V, apparently. |
| 19:45.45 | levi | Anyway, not trying to push Docker, just pointing out the existence of the HyperKit/xhyve stuff. |
| 19:48.49 | aeryndunham | Docker is something I hear about all the time but I've never actually used |
| 19:49.59 | manithree | Docker is the ultimate shadow/stealth IT tool |
| 19:50.09 | manithree | means that as a sincere compliment |
| 19:50.23 | jfindlay | salt is pretty cool too :-) |
| 19:50.36 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠let me know if you have any docker questions. |
| 19:50.58 | jfindlay | programmerq: hi |
| 19:51.08 | keldwud | <3 salt |
| 19:51.12 | programmerq | hello. :) |
| 19:51.52 | jfindlay | darn, I was trying to trick you into direct addressing me to see if the triangle thing was for reals |
| 19:52.06 | programmerq | jfindlay⸠what do you mean "for real?" |
| 19:52.11 | jfindlay | whatever |
| 19:52.14 | jfindlay | whatevers |
| 19:52.26 | programmerq | jfindlay⸠I changed the weechat tab complete char from : to the triangle |
| 19:52.28 | programmerq | just because |
| 19:52.55 | jfindlay | does that increase your hipstergrammer score by a few percent? |
| 19:53.00 | programmerq | probably not |
| 19:53.22 | programmerq | just wanted to shake things up a bit so that IRC was that much more exciting |
| 19:53.37 | jfindlay | well, I'm excited |
| 19:53.50 | levi | yawns |
| 19:53.58 | levi | Arrows, whatever. |
| 19:54.01 | programmerq | if you're curious: /set weechat.completion.nick_completer ⸠|
| 19:54.06 | levi | Docker, whatever. |
| 19:56.21 | levi | I am only kidding, though. That's cool, and I use Docker a bit. |
| 19:57.18 | TodPunk | WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE?!?!?! |
| 19:57.33 | TodPunk | pardon me |
| 19:57.42 | TodPunk | WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!!!!!!111oneone |
| 19:58.58 | jfindlay | ~pardon TodPunk |
| 20:21.51 | jfindlay | my favorite thing about mac so far is that some things on the command line don't work unless the user is logged into the graphical interface |
| 20:22.20 | aeryndunham | I've been using mac for years; I'm still about halfway between it and Linux |
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| 20:23.30 | jfindlay | I suspect this has to do with how they setup some of the daemons to run at user-level in a graphical shell |
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| 22:30.52 | aeryndunham | anybody wanna come on a cruise and do my job for me for a week? :p |
| 22:31.34 | TodPunk | if they can pay my exhorbitant fee, yes |
| 22:32.19 | aeryndunham | needs a day off |
| 22:35.30 | unum | that's always my feeling about contract work |
| 22:35.46 | unum | if you're willing to pay enough I'm willing to work |
| 22:36.01 | aeryndunham | I mean I technically work on contract |
| 22:36.08 | aeryndunham | they are just exceedingly long contracts |