| 00:07.04 | klys | http://45.55.20.239/x86emu006.zip at some point this libx86emu deal will run on dos; for now it still needs some FILE* functions. =) |
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| 04:21.55 | voldemortensen | eightyeight: your crypto challenges are annoying |
| 06:52.05 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 15:05.35 | jholtom | \o |
| 15:15.00 | manithree | Anybody have an opinion on bitwarden? |
| 15:17.19 | jholtom | well you can deploy the whole thing on your own systems because its OSS, so to me, thats pretty appealing, otherwise no opinion |
| 15:23.40 | manithree | But the backend requires sql server, with lots of t-sql (blech), so I probably would never do that without porting. |
| 15:23.58 | manithree | And his business model is suspect, which gives me pause. |
| 15:24.03 | jholtom | oh dear t-sql |
| 15:24.08 | jholtom | yeah run away now |
| 15:25.02 | jfindlay | lol |
| 15:25.54 | manithree | I wanted to like it. android/ios apps, chrome and firefox plugins, OSS |
| 15:40.42 | pashdown | after i looked at bitwarden, i noticed that lastpass has this - https://github.com/LastPass/lastpass-cli |
| 15:41.00 | pashdown | i think their sub of $12 a year is reasonable for the amount i use it |
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| 16:28.04 | manithree | I'll just stick with keepass/keepasdroid and dropbox for now. |
| 16:36.46 | jlp_znc | interesting comment on spiceworks today: "That's what I want on my tombstone!" in regard to this "I thought it would be fun to do this, but now I am a bit worried." |
| 16:37.28 | jlp_znc | (guy instituted a phishing test campaign and it caught 25% of his company's staff) |
| 16:38.16 | jlp_znc | https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1871358-i-thought-it-would-be-fun-to-do-this-but-now-i-am-a-bit-worried?utm_campaign=digest&utm_medium=email&utm_source=digest&utme=groups+popular1 |
| 16:43.38 | jfindlay | reminds me of https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/10/security_design.html |
| 16:49.32 | SunSparc | keepass? I use 1password |
| 16:49.50 | fadein | 1password? I just use one password everywhere |
| 16:50.00 | SunSparc | perfect! :) |
| 16:54.14 | jfindlay | hunter2 |
| 16:54.21 | jfindlay | everybody uses 1 pass |
| 16:55.33 | jfindlay | that way you can ask somebody: two hipsters in a coffee shop in some smart coastal city, 'do you remember the password?' 'yeah, it's "hunter2"'. 'Thanks!' |
| 16:57.30 | eightyeight | there is also http://kpcli.sourceforge.net/ for those who don't want to pay any $$ to story passwords |
| 16:59.27 | eightyeight | s/story/store/ |
| 17:01.17 | romanovic | I've been using keepass on linux and android for a few years, but now I want to share the password db with my wife, and keepass is not the most user friendly. and not multi-user |
| 17:01.48 | romanovic | or rather, it is "multi-user", but only in the sense that all users share the same password |
| 17:02.27 | manithree | I keep my keepass database in folder that I share with my wife. She can get all my passwords, but she has her own (that she shares with me). |
| 17:02.57 | manithree | It's not as convenient as lastpass, but it is $0 until I get a HUGE number of passwords. |
| 17:05.02 | jlp_znc | romanovic: dashlane has the concept of "emergency access". You can send some one credentials for specific passwords (or all of them) and if there is an emergency they can use the credentials to access your passwords. it even supports you setting a time frame on it (like, they try to use the creds, it tries to notify you, if you don't respond within a time frame that you set, then they get access to the pas |
| 17:05.06 | SunSparc | https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/12/will-you-become-a-citizen-of-asgardia-the-first-nation-state-in-space |
| 17:05.08 | jlp_znc | swords you "shared" with them) |
| 17:05.52 | jlp_znc | I have shared a "zero time required" credential with my wife for all of my personal passwords (banking, bill payment, etc.) |
| 17:06.09 | SunSparc | You trust her? |
| 17:06.13 | jlp_znc | pretty much |
| 17:06.17 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:06.30 | jlp_znc | she hasn't let me down yet... 31 years so far. |
| 17:06.44 | SunSparc | Wow! Go on ya mate! |
| 17:06.47 | RyanE | pretty good record |
| 17:06.55 | jlp_znc | considering we met on a blind date, I think we've done all right |
| 17:07.05 | RyanE | but have you let her down in 31 years? |
| 17:07.06 | eightyeight | it would be nice if keepass supported multiple namespaces |
| 17:07.06 | RyanE | :) |
| 17:07.08 | eightyeight | shrug |
| 17:07.36 | jlp_znc | well, I can't say I've always been the best husband |
| 17:07.44 | jlp_znc | but I do my best :-) |
| 17:08.30 | jlp_znc | and dashlane gives you that capability in their free product (the only thing the free one can't do is actively replicate your password database between multiple devices, but you can export and import it all you like) |
| 17:09.03 | jlp_znc | it doesn't handle logging into AWS very well, though. that's the only site that I've really had problems with. |
| 17:09.30 | jlp_znc | (it gets confused between the account and user name) |
| 17:13.07 | SunSparc | I did not know there was such a thing as "Space Law". |
| 17:13.55 | RyanE | I thought it was just a combo of "No one owns all this", and "Maritime Laws Apply" |
| 17:14.44 | SunSparc | I had just never even heard that such laws were on the books. |
| 17:15.08 | jlp_znc | oh yes, there are international treaties about it |
| 17:15.20 | SunSparc | Apparently |
| 17:15.21 | jlp_znc | and do you know why? it's all Heinlein's fault. |
| 17:15.50 | jlp_znc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sold_the_Moon |
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| 17:16.48 | youtah | Anyone else notice that Wikipedia's SSL Certificate has been revoked? |
| 17:16.56 | SunSparc | jlp_znc: lol |
| 17:17.13 | youtah | or... I should say |
| 17:17.18 | youtah | is anyone else seeing the same thing? |
| 17:17.27 | RyanE | <citation needed> |
| 17:17.39 | youtah | "NET::ERR_CERT_REVOKED" |
| 17:17.47 | SunSparc | Looks like it is still valid until December. |
| 17:17.55 | jlp_znc | I have "This certificate has an invalid issuer" |
| 17:18.08 | youtah | that's the expiration, but it is saying it has been revoked and is invalid |
| 17:18.34 | SunSparc | Where are you seeing that? |
| 17:18.36 | jlp_znc | wikipedia's cert hasn't been revoked, but GlobalSign's Organization Validation CA has been |
| 17:19.22 | youtah | Ah |
| 17:19.29 | youtah | so it's been revoked up the chain |
| 17:19.35 | jlp_znc | yes |
| 17:19.38 | youtah | at the CA level |
| 17:19.39 | youtah | lol |
| 17:19.40 | youtah | poor guys |
| 17:19.51 | youtah | I'll bet their admins are having not fun |
| 17:20.18 | youtah | "I'll have three glasses, no ice, of not fun please!" - Their Admins |
| 17:20.48 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:20.49 | jfindlay | does anyone know why it takes 3 minutes to remove 60 GiB files on HFS? |
| 17:21.01 | youtah | try draino |
| 17:21.18 | youtah | lol, I have no idea |
| 17:22.18 | jlp_znc | it's all that copying of blocks onto the free list |
| 17:23.40 | youtah | I heard they have that on computers now |
| 17:24.39 | jfindlay | I have little filesystems knowledge except that on linux, removing a file is a snap |
| 17:24.57 | jfindlay | this has caused me failure on many google interviews |
| 17:25.15 | jfindlay | not that I want to work for google, but still I'm prideful about it |
| 17:26.56 | jholtom | oh HFS |
| 17:28.18 | jfindlay | why would I waste time memorizing random trivia about systems, networks, and algorithms if I can look up any of that info in under 10 minutes? |
| 17:28.40 | jholtom | I only know the trivia because I've been doing it forever and its just kinda second nature :P |
| 17:28.53 | jholtom | I think its more of a way of gauging competence by seeing how often you're exposed to it |
| 17:28.54 | jfindlay | I'm slightly aware of the ignorance of that opinion |
| 17:29.42 | jholtom | yeah its mildly ignorant |
| 17:30.50 | jholtom | but we still all respect the old fogeys who have this compendium of near useless information in their heads because they've been tinkering on this junk forever |
| 17:31.25 | jfindlay | humor is not an art if it's not at least a little self-mocking |
| 17:32.15 | jlp_znc | hey, jholtom, I resemble one of those old fogeys! |
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| 17:33.31 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 17:33.34 | infobot | Pedro offers you his protection. |
| 17:38.23 | jholtom | its been a day full of paperwork, how're yall? |
| 17:45.29 | jfindlay | my desk is paperless |
| 17:46.24 | jholtom | lucky. |
| 17:54.16 | jima | i've wallpapered my cube |
| 17:57.22 | jima | any systems types looking for work? |
| 18:01.32 | jlp_znc | I know a guy who doesn't like where he's at right now. |
| 18:04.29 | jima | sounds dangerous |
| 18:05.01 | jlp_znc | well, he's from poland |
| 18:05.12 | jima | sounds messy |
| 18:05.43 | jfindlay | I know a guy in Sweden who is hiring |
| 18:15.48 | jima | i know a guy in slc who is hiring. |
| 18:17.36 | jlp_znc | weird. I appear to be blocked from contacting this guy on LinkedIn. |
| 18:17.44 | jlp_znc | (he was a contact before) |
| 18:17.56 | jlp_znc | "You are no longer authorized to message this member." |
| 18:46.30 | jima | you must've weirded him out. nice going. ;-) |
| 19:20.21 | jlp_znc | well, I am a little on the weird side. |
| 19:38.33 | jfindlay | ~moss |
| 19:38.33 | infobot | I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style. |
| 19:38.46 | jlp_znc | ~botsnack |
| 19:38.46 | infobot | jlp_znc: aw, gee |
| 19:38.51 | jfindlay | lol |
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| 20:59.46 | youtah | What's the difference between BMW's and porcupines? Porcupines have pricks on the outside. |
| 20:59.56 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:00.01 | SunSparc | used to drive a BMW |
| 21:00.08 | youtah | lol |
| 21:02.33 | SunSparc | You have probably seen their new concept motorcycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0ShDRggts |
| 21:05.35 | youtah | definately not in Utah |
| 21:05.39 | youtah | too clean |
| 21:06.03 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 21:17.50 | aeryndunham | Good afternoon! |
| 21:20.33 | youtah | I just had an IT admin tell me that Dropbox is unwieldly and doesn't work well at all for handing files |
| 21:20.40 | youtah | and wants me to use Google Drive instead |
| 21:20.52 | youtah | What world is he from?! |
| 21:21.33 | RyanE | google planet |
| 21:21.33 | aeryndunham | odd |
| 21:21.45 | jfindlay | I always figured file hosting was for people who can't run a webserver |
| 21:21.52 | jfindlay | or an ssh server |
| 21:21.53 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 21:22.08 | youtah | I need to send him 250GB of video |
| 21:22.21 | youtah | and he wants me to upload it to Google Drive? |
| 21:22.45 | youtah | can't actually remember the file size total, but it was up there |
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| 21:27.07 | jholtom | I've uploaded close to that much to drive before |
| 21:27.12 | jholtom | it actually wasn't that bad |
| 21:28.36 | aeryndunham | I'm not sure how I would go about sending someone 250GB of video actually |
| 21:29.34 | jholtom | have them download it from one of my servers |
| 21:29.57 | RyanE | Copy it on a portable hard drive, drive it over to their house. |
| 21:29.59 | RyanE | probably faster. |
| 21:30.39 | jholtom | mail it |
| 21:30.42 | RyanE | "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway" -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum. |
| 21:30.50 | jholtom | upgrade to uSD cards |
| 21:32.04 | aeryndunham | When they want to send us big files on the ship they really do mail us hard drives |
| 21:32.09 | aeryndunham | no other way, really |
| 21:32.36 | RyanE | so you're saying the ship isn't dragging a fiber line wherever it goes? :) |
| 21:32.39 | jfindlay | https://xkcd.com/949/ |
| 21:32.52 | RyanE | probably for the best. |
| 21:39.08 | aeryndunham | RyanE: I sure wish it were :/ |
| 21:39.15 | aeryndunham | Internet here is paaaaainnnfully slow |
| 21:39.30 | aeryndunham | I'm currently tethering to my phone instead of using the ship's connection, which I can do when we're docked |
| 21:39.34 | aeryndunham | well, in most places |
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| 21:46.19 | youtah | aaaaaaaaaand I am back |
| 21:46.44 | youtah | TodPunk missed me. I can tell. |
| 21:47.13 | TodPunk | youtah: did you ask him what it DOES handle? |
| 21:47.59 | aeryndunham | I love the game of "gee, I'm /sure/ that class in css should have changed that thing's font size" :p |
| 21:48.28 | youtah | lol |
| 21:48.29 | youtah | no |
| 21:48.36 | youtah | I am just going to upload it to Google |
| 21:48.42 | youtah | he wants it in Google Drive |
| 21:48.53 | youtah | I am curious myself |
| 21:49.24 | romanovic | I feel like I should be using syncthing to be syncing more of my things |
| 21:50.26 | youtah | lol aeryndunham |
| 21:50.27 | romanovic | why deal with dropbox or google drive when you can just hand someone a hash? even better if they are on the same network, it goes much faster? |
| 21:50.31 | youtah | CTRL+0 |
| 21:59.37 | aeryndunham | Oh, that css *did* work, I'm just a moron who was looking at the wrong page |
| 22:26.39 | jlp_znc | so, youtah, any estimate on how long to upload that 250GB to Google Drive? |
| 22:30.06 | jlp_znc | ah, he's gone. |
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| 22:43.39 | aeryndunham | "This is currently a beta feature and should not be used in productive." |
| 22:43.43 | aeryndunham | uses it in production anyway |
| 22:51.04 | aeryndunham | and it works, whaddya know |