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| 15:27.47 | jlp_znc | ~slacker youtah |
| 15:27.47 | infobot | You got a real attitude problem, youtah; you're a slacker. |
| 15:27.55 | jlp_znc | (not here again) |
| 15:40.04 | jlp_znc | ~richmond |
| 15:40.04 | infobot | And this one, flash, flash, flash, then wait for it. Nothing for awhile. Here it comes. Double flash! |
| 15:45.36 | jfindlay | does anyone here know how to redirect a freenode channel? |
| 15:46.49 | jfindlay | ~napoleon eightyeight |
| 15:46.49 | infobot | ACTION takes eightyeight's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 15:47.53 | jlp_znc | there's some channel mode for it |
| 15:48.13 | jlp_znc | https://freenode.net/kb/answer/channelmodes |
| 15:48.32 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: I've been looking through the chanserv help and haven't seen anything |
| 15:49.15 | jfindlay | so do I have to ban everyone and then set up a ban redirect? |
| 15:49.25 | jlp_znc | looks like it, maybe? |
| 15:49.32 | jfindlay | ugh |
| 15:49.46 | jlp_znc | there is supposed to be a way to do it when e.g. the channel is too full, too. |
| 15:50.06 | jlp_znc | ahh, look at +f |
| 15:50.09 | jlp_znc | (forward) |
| 15:50.13 | jfindlay | I'm just trying to consolidate channels |
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| 15:51.27 | jlp_znc | so you can set +i and +f, then just don't invite anyone |
| 15:52.00 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: will the nicks already in the channel stay there until they move on? |
| 15:52.07 | jfindlay | and can't get reinvited? |
| 15:52.22 | jlp_znc | eyah, I think so, but nothing stops them from being reinvited after they have left |
| 15:52.32 | jlp_znc | so you set +i and +f, then kick everyone |
| 15:52.38 | jfindlay | cool |
| 15:52.42 | jfindlay | thanks |
| 15:52.47 | jfindlay | I'll try those things |
| 15:52.47 | jlp_znc | probably set +f first :-) |
| 15:52.53 | jfindlay | yeah |
| 15:53.11 | jlp_znc | then set +i and go on a mad /kicking spree |
| 15:53.17 | jlp_znc | wheee! kick all the things! |
| 15:53.34 | jfindlay | just don't kick yourself? |
| 15:53.35 | jlp_znc | so, did you ever hear about the poor trids? |
| 15:54.29 | jlp_znc | the trids were this poor group of people. they had one goal, which was to reach the valley on the other side of the mountain. unfortunately, an evil giant lived on the mountain. |
| 15:54.52 | jlp_znc | this giant hated the trids... in fact, whenever they approached, he would kick them back down the mountain. |
| 15:55.05 | jlp_znc | the poor trids could never get to the valley they desired so badly to reach. |
| 15:55.33 | jlp_znc | finally, the trids decided to appeal to a higher authority. they called in a rabbi to ask him to talk to the giant on their behalf. |
| 15:55.49 | jlp_znc | the rabbi was concerned (he didn't want to get kicked down the mountain along with the trids) |
| 15:56.26 | jlp_znc | but he decided to approach the giant. as he got closer, he observed the giant running around, kicking all of the poor trids that were trying so desperately to climb the mountain. |
| 15:56.50 | jlp_znc | oddly, the giant did not try to kick the rabbi. slowly the rabbi got closer to the giant. |
| 15:57.12 | jlp_znc | "Hey, mister giant!" called the rabbi. |
| 15:57.22 | jlp_znc | "What do you want, rabbi?" asked the giant. |
| 15:57.35 | jlp_znc | "Why don't you kick me down the mountain too?" |
| 15:57.50 | jlp_znc | the giant looked scornfully at him, then replied..... |
| 15:57.52 | jlp_znc | ..... |
| 15:57.58 | jlp_znc | "silly rabbi. kicks are for trids!" |
| 15:59.45 | jlp_znc | don't bother with the applause, folks, just throw money. |
| 16:34.15 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: how do I set the flags listed on that page you referenced? |
| 16:34.21 | jfindlay | chanserv has no mode command |
| 16:44.26 | TodPunk | /mode +X #channel |
| 16:47.10 | jfindlay | thanks, TodPunk, that seems to work |
| 16:47.15 | TodPunk | np |
| 16:47.28 | jfindlay | too bad the freenode reference didn't mention how to acutally set the freaking flags |
| 16:53.23 | TodPunk | most guides assume some prior knowledge, though I'd have included an example there |
| 16:53.38 | TodPunk | the worst assuming prior knowledge examples are all JS tutorials, though |
| 16:53.46 | jfindlay | lol |
| 16:54.15 | jfindlay | I remember spending hours staring at jquery examples wondering how to make them work |
| 16:54.33 | TodPunk | yeah |
| 16:55.15 | TodPunk | it got worse. "Oh, here's how you use React!" Um... what is this jsx file thing, and why have you not shown how you're viewing this in a browser? I just get security violations! |
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| 16:55.51 | SunSparc | The smoke is bad today. |
| 16:56.13 | TodPunk | "Oh, just use node to bower your dependencies in webpack with grunt, then express your transpiled minified js, but make sure you RequireJS your app! It's that easy!" |
| 16:56.45 | TodPunk | (that sentence is actually really close to making sense, I am surprised I didn't have to try very hard to be convoluted) |
| 16:57.11 | SunSparc | ~smoke TodPunk |
| 16:57.12 | infobot | ACTION rolls up TodPunk, lights a match, kicks back and enjoys the noxious fumes |
| 16:57.24 | TodPunk | noxious is write, I work in JS |
| 16:57.28 | TodPunk | *right |
| 16:57.34 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:57.39 | TodPunk | it made more sense in my head |
| 16:58.40 | SunSparc | remembers the days when web pages were just HTML and perhaps they used a perl script to process something... |
| 16:59.09 | TodPunk | They still do, for the most part. JS does very little on your average Wordpress site |
| 16:59.20 | TodPunk | it's just PHP instead of Perl now |
| 16:59.26 | TodPunk | somehow this is better... |
| 16:59.30 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:00.50 | SunSparc | Of course, some pages still look like they were made in 1994: https://www.washington.edu/pine/ |
| 17:01.51 | jfindlay | lol pine |
| 17:02.19 | SunSparc | used to use Pine exclusively for years. |
| 17:02.41 | SunSparc | remembers Pegasus mail... |
| 17:03.05 | SunSparc | Wow! It is still going: http://www.pmail.com/ |
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| 17:20.03 | eightyeight | heh |
| 17:20.05 | eightyeight | hah |
| 17:20.07 | eightyeight | :) |
| 17:20.09 | eightyeight | ? |
| 17:20.23 | SunSparc | ~?stats |
| 17:20.25 | infobot | total count of ? on #utah: 609. Top 3: goozbach -- 142 (23.3%), eightyeight -- 87 (14.3%), youtah -- 51 (8.4%) |
| 17:20.51 | eightyeight | ~:)stats |
| 17:20.51 | infobot | total count of :) on #utah: 1760. Top 3: goozbach -- 281 (16.0%), eightyeight -- 179 (10.2%), fozzmoo -- 106 (6.0%) |
| 17:20.56 | eightyeight | ~hahstats |
| 17:20.57 | infobot | total count of hah on #utah: 249. Top 3: goozbach -- 87 (34.9%), eightyeight -- 81 (32.5%), jlp_znc -- 15 (6.0%) |
| 17:21.03 | eightyeight | closing in |
| 17:21.22 | SunSparc | Sorry eightyeight, you are still not the most clueless, or smily, or hahhy. |
| 17:22.01 | SunSparc | But you are a strong second. :D |
| 17:22.17 | eightyeight | ~hehstats |
| 17:22.17 | infobot | total count of heh on #utah: 1674. Top 3: eightyeight -- 533 (31.8%), fozzmoo -- 152 (9.1%), harleypig -- 142 (8.5%) |
| 17:22.31 | eightyeight | and creaming everyone there. :) |
| 17:22.33 | SunSparc | ~statsstats |
| 17:22.35 | eightyeight | heh |
| 17:22.37 | eightyeight | hah |
| 17:22.39 | eightyeight | :) |
| 17:22.41 | eightyeight | ? |
| 17:22.50 | fozzmoo | ~meowstats |
| 17:23.02 | fozzmoo | kicks infobot |
| 17:23.24 | eightyeight | it's a predefined set of commands, rather than dynamic |
| 17:23.39 | fozzmoo | And nobody defined meowstats?! *flips desk* |
| 17:23.49 | voldemortensen | (â¯Â°â¡Â°)â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
| 17:24.38 | SunSparc | thinks of the Epic Tea Time with Alan Rickman |
| 17:24.42 | voldemortensen | http://jmortensen.bluehoststaff.com/gifs/tableflip.gif |
| 17:24.57 | SunSparc | lol |
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| 17:51.31 | aeryndunham | waves hello |
| 17:52.09 | jfindlay | hi |
| 17:54.40 | aeryndunham | jfindlay: how are you? |
| 17:54.55 | jfindlay | I am normal |
| 18:00.01 | aeryndunham | that's good |
| 18:00.11 | aeryndunham | is at work |
| 18:01.19 | jlp_znc | my last day at verisys today. and there was much rejoicing. |
| 18:01.42 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmPhaG1ud38 |
| 18:01.55 | aeryndunham | \o/ |
| 18:02.17 | aeryndunham | only another day and a half at sea before we hit land again \o/ |
| 18:15.54 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: verily |
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| 18:56.50 | voldemortensen | TIL that you can upload a PGP key to facebook. And you can have them use it for email notifications they send you. |
| 18:57.25 | aeryndunham | that is interesting |
| 18:58.27 | jfindlay | cool |
| 18:59.28 | jfindlay | as much as I hate facebook, it's nice to see them reinforcing open standards |
| 18:59.59 | aeryndunham | I hate Facebook too, I put up with it purely to fulfill social expectations |
| 19:00.01 | jfindlay | nobody seems to care about open standards anymore |
| 19:01.02 | jfindlay | for a work meeting this morning I had to use gotomeeting. The webapp was littered with apologies about how my 'platform' was not supported for just about everything |
| 19:01.16 | jfindlay | but hangouts is even worse |
| 19:01.23 | jfindlay | at least gotomeeting actually works |
| 19:01.40 | jfindlay | and doesn't suck half a MiB/s and 4 cores |
| 19:02.49 | jfindlay | and then to get a remote desktop on a mac system, I have to use crufty old VNC |
| 19:03.08 | jfindlay | of course mac has their own modern, proprietary client/protocol |
| 19:03.29 | jfindlay | spice ftw |
| 19:05.09 | aeryndunham | I'm trying to use more and more linux but I still do love my mac |
| 19:06.01 | voldemortensen | I think I'm going to be able to convince my wife to let me put linux on our stuff at home. |
| 19:12.42 | aeryndunham | My boyfriend doesn't care much for linux but I don't think he had ever seen anything nicely set up |
| 19:12.50 | aeryndunham | my conky clock quite impressed him today |
| 19:13.19 | fadein | aeryndunham: do you have a screen shot of that? |
| 19:15.08 | aeryndunham | I do! (I stole it off the internet I can take no credit for the beautiful clock) |
| 19:15.16 | aeryndunham | it's uploading, I'm on satellite |
| 19:18.17 | aeryndunham | http://imgur.com/a/ajhXd |
| 19:18.36 | aeryndunham | it's called qlocktwo, I read about it on omgubuntu or something |
| 19:19.26 | aeryndunham | despite obviously not being on ubuntu :p |
| 19:30.03 | jlp_znc | nice |
| 19:30.07 | jlp_znc | hah |
| 19:30.08 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 19:30.51 | aeryndunham | I thought it was kinda neat |
| 19:30.58 | aeryndunham | I stared at the config for a while trying to see what was going on |
| 19:31.07 | aeryndunham | dangit my game keeps crashing |
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| 19:41.03 | youtah | lol |
| 19:41.05 | youtah | :) |
| 19:41.06 | youtah | heh |
| 19:41.07 | youtah | hah |
| 19:41.10 | youtah | ? |
| 19:41.20 | youtah | ~hehstats |
| 19:41.20 | infobot | total count of heh on #utah: 1677. Top 3: eightyeight -- 534 (31.8%), fozzmoo -- 152 (9.1%), harleypig -- 142 (8.5%) |
| 19:41.26 | youtah | ~hehstats youtah |
| 19:41.26 | infobot | youtah has said heh 41 times (2.4 %), ranked 7/120 (percentile: 5.8 %) |
| 19:41.46 | youtah | :) |
| 19:41.56 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:41.58 | eightyeight | hah |
| 19:42.00 | eightyeight | :) |
| 19:42.02 | eightyeight | ? |
| 19:42.14 | jlp_znc | ~slacker youtah |
| 19:42.14 | infobot | You got a real attitude problem, youtah; you're a slacker. |
| 19:42.24 | youtah | lol |
| 19:42.28 | jlp_znc | you know, your dad was a slacker, too. |
| 19:43.15 | youtah | define, "slacker": Noun - a young person (especially in the 1990s) of a subculture characterized by apathy and aimlessness. |
| 19:43.30 | jfindlay | you guys and your weirdo irc stats games |
| 19:43.37 | youtah | lol |
| 19:43.41 | youtah | :) |
| 19:43.42 | youtah | ? |
| 19:43.43 | youtah | heh |
| 19:43.44 | youtah | hah |
| 19:43.45 | jfindlay | slackers are slackware users, right? |
| 19:43.56 | youtah | or someone who wears slacks |
| 19:43.59 | youtah | like hillary clinton |
| 19:44.01 | jfindlay | or both! |
| 19:44.02 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 19:44.03 | jlp_znc | hah |
| 19:44.07 | youtah | lol |
| 19:44.10 | youtah | :) |
| 19:44.11 | youtah | ? |
| 19:44.49 | levi | aeryndunham: That is a pretty sweet clock. |
| 19:45.40 | youtah | I must have missed something |
| 19:45.49 | youtah | specifically aeryndunham's clock |
| 19:45.54 | youtah | ticks and tocks |
| 19:46.00 | aeryndunham | http://imgur.com/a/ajhXd |
| 19:46.33 | youtah | Sue Say |
| 19:46.48 | youtah | Sue Say: "It's a quarter to four!" |
| 19:50.59 | SunSparc | jfindlay: Have you tried Cord? http://cord.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:51.24 | jfindlay | SunSparc: nope |
| 19:51.41 | jfindlay | too bad it doesn't work on linux |
| 19:51.46 | youtah | ahh bummer, only a client |
| 19:52.01 | SunSparc | Oh, you are going from Linux to Mac. |
| 19:52.32 | jfindlay | yeah, I'm one of those prejudiced people who uses linux |
| 19:52.53 | SunSparc | Prejudiced? lol |
| 19:53.05 | SunSparc | The whole world uses Linux every day, whether they know it or not. |
| 19:53.19 | TodPunk | has gone days without using linux |
| 19:53.42 | SunSparc | Camping |
| 19:54.02 | TodPunk | that's an example, yeah |
| 19:54.43 | SunSparc | On a desert island with only a volleyball for a friend. |
| 19:55.55 | SunSparc | No linux. Not even a command prompt. |
| 19:58.00 | goozbach | hah |
| 19:58.02 | goozbach | ? |
| 19:58.05 | goozbach | heh? |
| 19:58.14 | goozbach | heh |
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| 20:03.45 | voldemortensen | lol |
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| 20:10.58 | youtah | nachos |
| 20:11.11 | jfindlay | ~nacho |
| 20:11.11 | infobot | Tonight I wrestle the seven strongest men in town, maybe the world. |
| 20:11.59 | youtah | P2Mnot]{aZ-bpwX(H$Llol2S5 |
| 20:12.03 | youtah | oops |
| 20:12.20 | youtah | that's not a password btw |
| 20:12.46 | youtah | even says so |
| 20:13.06 | youtah | P2M not ]{ a Z-b pw X(H$L lol 2S5 |
| 20:13.11 | youtah | :) |
| 20:13.14 | youtah | did I fool anyone? |
| 20:14.59 | jfindlay | All I see is hunter2 |
| 20:15.16 | youtah | lol |
| 20:15.37 | manithree | SunSparc: you can still download a Mercury NLM! |
| 20:16.01 | youtah | haven't heard the term "hunter2" in a long long time |
| 20:17.08 | SunSparc | manithree: I know, pretty crazy how pervasive NetWare was/is. |
| 20:18.25 | TodPunk | was a Certified Netware Administrator 18 years ago |
| 20:18.35 | TodPunk | Most useless cert I have |
| 20:18.53 | SunSparc | Congrat! |
| 20:18.56 | TodPunk | just below my Microsoft Office cert |
| 20:19.05 | youtah | I have no certs |
| 20:19.08 | youtah | so there |
| 20:19.15 | TodPunk | I only have those because they were free |
| 20:19.25 | TodPunk | I did decline taking the A+ though |
| 20:19.51 | youtah | because they're useless certs... do they make you more useless? |
| 20:21.21 | TodPunk | no, they certify my uselessness |
| 20:21.26 | youtah | lol |
| 20:21.35 | youtah | speaking of that |
| 20:22.00 | youtah | The lady running for Dem house rep for our area wants to know if we'll help canvas |
| 20:25.00 | TodPunk | the gal I talked to? |
| 20:30.10 | youtah | yeah |
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| 20:37.00 | TodPunk | well good for her |
| 20:37.11 | TodPunk | I hope her political thingy goes well or something |
| 20:38.23 | youtah | yup |
| 20:39.39 | SunSparc | Is she using the HTML5 canvas? |
| 20:39.51 | TodPunk | highly recommend |
| 20:40.17 | youtah | she also drinks her javascript in the morning |
| 20:40.29 | SunSparc | Brave |
| 20:40.34 | youtah | big old cup of joevascript |
| 20:41.14 | SunSparc | ~javascript |
| 20:41.14 | infobot | javascript is, like, thing REAL PROGRAMMERS use when designing websites. <blink></blink> is deprecated remember! |
| 20:54.18 | voldemortensen | <marquee> |
| 20:59.09 | youtah | I love marquee |
| 20:59.14 | youtah | I still do |
| 20:59.53 | youtah | on a kind of related note: https://rainbowcoding.com/how-to-create-rainbow-text-in-html-css-javascript/ |
| 21:01.14 | TodPunk | with a .mid playing in the background |
| 21:12.04 | youtah | Mmmmmmm hmmmmmmm |
| 21:12.57 | youtah | http://www.hamsterdance.org/hamsterdance/ |
| 21:17.45 | jlp_znc | badger badger badger! |
| 21:20.28 | youtah | mushroom mushroom |
| 21:20.40 | youtah | snaaaaaaaaake a snaaaaaake... ooooooo loooooooook a snaaaaaaaaake |
| 21:21.22 | jlp_znc | iiiiiiiiiiits aaaaaaaaa snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake |
| 21:21.32 | voldemortensen | https://kimsundquist.com/index2.html |
| 21:21.43 | voldemortensen | My favorite use of <marquee> |
| 21:23.11 | jlp_znc | as 53 people all hit the site at once, it melts into oblivion. |
| 21:24.01 | voldemortensen | i regret nothing |
| 21:24.06 | jlp_znc | heh, I love how they apologize in true canadian fashion. |
| 21:31.00 | shalkie | Am I permited to think less of a security company that can't decrypt a file that is symmetrically encrypted with GPG and they know the password? |
| 21:31.24 | TodPunk | you're permitted to think less of any entity for far less than that |
| 21:31.29 | TodPunk | that said, GPG sucks |
| 21:31.55 | TodPunk | Like trying to say the best way to do your local DNS is BIND9 |
| 21:32.24 | TodPunk | "I need a blog. Well, the merits of enterprise Java are pretty clear, I think I'll use that." |
| 21:32.40 | TodPunk | GPG: when nothing should make sense, ever |
| 21:33.13 | shalkie | TodPunk: What is your preferred alternative? |
| 21:33.30 | TodPunk | depends on my audience |
| 21:33.40 | TodPunk | the answer is never GPG, mind |
| 21:34.26 | TodPunk | Oh look, seems VeraCrypt is the most popular current answer |
| 21:35.29 | TodPunk | in the movie file world we would transfer stuff to/from studios with purely proprietary nonsense |
| 21:39.26 | shalkie | Veracrypt seems interesting but overkill for a single email attachment. |
| 21:40.13 | TodPunk | most people would feel the same way about any encryption for an email attachment. I know that's silly, but again, audience, you know? |
| 21:40.29 | TodPunk | Are you at least emailing it to a tech person, or is this someone in sales or customer service? |
| 21:42.29 | jfindlay | can the recipient comprehend bottom posting |
| 21:42.35 | jfindlay | and trimming |
| 21:42.54 | shalkie | More account manager. So I probably had a high expectation in hindsight. |
| 21:43.16 | jfindlay | I think lots of the blame goes to clients reinforcing lazy email behavior |
| 21:43.19 | jfindlay | specifically gmail |
| 21:43.26 | TodPunk | Account Manager is glorified customer service |
| 21:43.53 | jfindlay | 'sure, let's include a megabyte of text below your me too reply' |
| 21:43.59 | TodPunk | (Because making up titles to make people feel better about their uselessness is not exclusive to technical roles adding "Engineer" to their title) |
| 21:44.31 | TodPunk | jfindlay: Outlook before that already established it in the workplace. It was never going to matter what gmail did. |
| 21:45.05 | TodPunk | See also: Apple made group texts popular, but they still mostly work the way businesses used them. |
| 21:45.30 | jfindlay | TodPunk: fortunately, I have no experience with that :) |
| 21:46.13 | TodPunk | sadly I totally do, on both fronts |
| 21:47.34 | jfindlay | email replies are so free form. I wish the inline reply were culturally acceptable, but given free form, most people are going to do the laziest thing possible |
| 21:53.17 | TodPunk | I typically, again, tailor to my audience. PLUG I don't top-post. Most other places I do. In-line where the conversation would benefit from it and the recipients are capable. |
| 22:54.25 | goozbach | heh |
| 22:54.26 | goozbach | hah |
| 22:54.28 | goozbach | ? |
| 22:54.44 | goozbach | lol |
| 22:54.46 | goozbach | :) |
| 23:06.37 | youtah | lol |
| 23:06.39 | youtah | heh |
| 23:06.40 | youtah | hah |
| 23:06.42 | youtah | :) |
| 23:06.43 | youtah | ? |
| 23:06.44 | *** join/#utah jnbek (~jnbek@pdpc/supporter/active/jnbek) |
| 23:18.30 | voldemortensen | ? |
| 23:23.46 | goozbach | lol |
| 23:23.48 | goozbach | heh |
| 23:23.50 | goozbach | hah |
| 23:23.52 | goozbach | :) |
| 23:23.54 | goozbach | ? |
| 23:24.08 | goozbach | I feel bad we've been degraded into spamming this |
| 23:24.24 | goozbach | I mean I won by organically having the most hehs hahs :) and ?s |
