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| 14:10.59 | TodPunk | so now Angular 2 is released |
| 14:21.46 | Migs | bout time |
| 14:21.52 | Migs | too late, though |
| 14:22.05 | TodPunk | no, no it is not |
| 14:22.09 | Migs | sure it is |
| 14:22.13 | TodPunk | no u |
| 14:22.28 | Migs | nope, u |
| 14:26.26 | TodPunk | but for serious, nothing I've seen really competes with agular. People "switched" to react or whatever, but react is just a view components lib, they had to replace a bunch of other stuff with other libs and it gets ridiculous. Maybe Ember is worth discussing, maybe. I'm not saying Angular 2 is a winner or anything, but the comparisons seem silly when they get brought up |
| 14:27.02 | TodPunk | Last night we were chatting with several dudes from companies that have production Angular 2 code, and I was deeply confused as to why they would do that. |
| 14:27.06 | TodPunk | Then I remembered. Web dev. |
| 14:31.58 | TodPunk | jlp_znc is advocating for my eventual divorce, I think |
| 14:35.04 | Migs | I really like Vue, too |
| 14:35.12 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 14:35.47 | jlp_znc | as I clearly mentioned, you can simply tell her that I said it was a good idea. |
| 14:36.18 | jlp_znc | then, when she says "don't do it again", you can reply "okay, Bubbles." |
| 14:48.14 | TodPunk | ~jlp_znc++ |
| 14:48.19 | TodPunk | this is going to be awesome |
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| 16:53.18 | romanovic | TodPunk: we're really excited about the angular 2 release at work. Angular 1 was the magic key we needed to persuade the powers-that-be to modernise our awful in-house JS libraries and XSLT. Angular 2 doubly so. |
| 16:53.53 | TodPunk | I'm also pleased about it |
| 16:53.58 | TodPunk | Are you also going to embrace Typescript? |
| 16:54.20 | romanovic | modular and fast enough that developers want to work with it, and backed by a company large enough that management feels the risk of adopting the new framework is low |
| 16:55.06 | romanovic | TodPunk: yes. not only that, but where we still need to maintain angular 1.5 code, we're writing that in typescript as well |
| 16:55.31 | TodPunk | Nice |
| 16:55.59 | romanovic | one thing we haven't settled on is what module loader to use |
| 16:56.19 | romanovic | and bundler |
| 16:56.44 | romanovic | my team has been leaning toward SystemJS and JSPM, another team has already done a lot of work with webpack |
| 16:58.40 | romanovic | TodPunk: It sounds like you are developing angular apps as well? Have you evaluated either of those, or something else? |
| 17:00.11 | TodPunk | I don't get what any of that is. We use grunt to run through the node nonsense and spit out our static assets dir. Moving the goalpost of "should I be loading this in html or javascript" never became a thing for us |
| 17:05.26 | SunSparc | I have looked at Angular. I keep hearing good things about it. |
| 17:08.08 | TodPunk | I hear good things about webpack, but I personally think it's a solution without a problem. If you're using libs that don't have a downloadable, minified version already and instead have to have it do something with some node_modules directory, I think that's a terrible lib |
| 17:08.16 | TodPunk | and they should feel bad |
| 17:09.22 | TodPunk | We have a tag in our html for angular, ng-ui, ng-google-chart and I think a modernizr link, but other than that it's just our app and CSS file. Done. |
| 17:09.39 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: did you see my node password generator i linked yesterday? |
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| 17:15.09 | youtah | any rabbitmq experts |
| 17:15.10 | youtah | ? |
| 17:20.38 | SunSparc | youtah: I use rabbitmq, though I do not consider myself an expert. |
| 17:21.10 | SunSparc | But ask your question anyway. |
| 17:37.57 | youtah | (sent you a dm) |
| 17:48.40 | jfindlay | a deleted message |
| 17:52.51 | youtah | lol |
| 17:52.58 | youtah | A Dominos Mizza |
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| 17:57.31 | manithree | Dr. Mepper |
| 17:57.43 | manithree | dungeon master |
| 18:11.33 | spangborn | dead muppet |
| 18:13.26 | youtah | Death Metal (for jnbek of course) |
| 18:13.39 | jnbek | huh, what? |
| 18:13.48 | youtah | Diet Mountaindew |
| 18:14.34 | spangborn | deferred missionary |
| 18:15.42 | youtah | Dude Moobs |
| 18:16.24 | TodPunk | youtah: speak publicly so all can benefit |
| 18:16.39 | youtah | So, apparently there is a rabbitmq web interface |
| 18:16.43 | youtah | which has changed my life |
| 18:17.27 | youtah | What are common methods for having a worker "listen" to the message broker |
| 18:17.37 | youtah | init scripts? cron jobs? |
| 18:18.57 | TodPunk | doesn't the daemon start the worker threads? |
| 18:19.18 | TodPunk | of whatever you're using in front of RMQ? |
| 18:19.29 | youtah | I guess it depends on the setup |
| 18:19.50 | youtah | So I have three machines |
| 18:20.01 | youtah | (using this for an example) |
| 18:20.02 | youtah | A) My Machine -> B) Broker - > C) Worker |
| 18:20.27 | youtah | what's the preferred method of having C check into B, asking for the messages for queues "X" |
| 18:20.55 | youtah | is new to rabbitmq |
| 18:23.02 | TodPunk | I thought the whole point of a message queue was to have a worker attached to the queue all the time so it wasn't polling, it was waiting for an event and then it starts doin the work |
| 18:23.12 | TodPunk | is this not how your setup goes? |
| 18:23.52 | TodPunk | Like Celery connects to the daemon and blocks waiting for there to be work to do |
| 18:24.04 | spangborn | I knew celery was evil |
| 18:24.21 | TodPunk | If there was no worker bits, the queue would just fill up |
| 18:24.40 | TodPunk | spangborn: the celery stalks at midnight |
| 18:25.21 | youtah | i dunno... good questions TodPunk |
| 18:30.14 | harleypig | Well, hell. Does anyone know if powershell for linux can run cmdlets? or is it specialized version of powershell? |
| 18:31.31 | jfindlay | they made a special version just for you |
| 18:33.17 | TodPunk | mine does |
| 18:40.50 | SunSparc | TodPunk is correct, the consumer subscribes to the broker and keep a connection alive so that the broker can push messages to the consumer whenever it gets them. Queues can get backed up though if the consumer is overloaded and not consuming quickly enough. |
| 19:09.52 | harleypig | jfindlay: :P |
| 19:37.39 | levi1 | I assume it runs cmdlets via the mono runtime, but I don't know for sure. |
| 19:40.55 | jlp_znc | eightyeight: yeah, I saw it when you posted it... looks pretty good. |
| 19:41.07 | eightyeight | cool |
| 19:41.14 | eightyeight | (given our recent discussion) |
| 19:56.21 | youtah | 199POSTER << Coupon code for Walgreens 11x14 poster prints for $1.99 FYI |
| 20:32.33 | goozbach | ~blame |
| 20:32.42 | goozbach | ~blame harleypig |
| 20:32.42 | infobot | ACTION blames harleypig (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 20:33.20 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 20:33.20 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 20:33.25 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:33.27 | eightyeight | hah |
| 20:33.29 | eightyeight | :) |
| 20:33.31 | eightyeight | ? |
| 20:53.28 | SunSparc | youtah: Do they have any good posters? (Not that my wife would allow posters in the house ;) |
| 20:54.44 | youtah | whatever you would like to print |
| 20:54.52 | SunSparc | Ah, I see. |
| 20:55.24 | youtah | Nothing, is more startling, than hearing a poster come sliding down your wall and crashing into a baseboard in the middle of the night. |
| 20:56.01 | SunSparc | wakes up with a start, wonders who is in the house, considers grabbing his firearm... |
| 21:02.41 | harleypig | Firearms don't work on ghosts... |
| 21:02.55 | youtah | maybe not yours |
| 21:03.04 | jfindlay | duh, you need charmed weaponry |
| 21:03.21 | SunSparc | keeps an unlicensed nuclear accelerator under his bed... |
| 21:03.28 | jfindlay | didn't you guys even watch the Napoleon Dynamite cartoons? |
| 21:03.31 | youtah | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/nerfipedia/images/8/8d/GhostbustersGhostPopper.JPG |
| 21:03.43 | SunSparc | +1 |
| 21:03.48 | youtah | Remember this Nerf gun? |
| 21:04.08 | SunSparc | A charmed Ghostbusters Nerf gun. |
| 21:05.28 | harleypig | Can't you just picture Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige wielding these ... |
| 21:08.34 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:18.35 | Migs | http://codepen.io/wbobeirne/pen/pEjqGR/ |
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| 21:37.19 | harleypig | So, I want to find files that don't have a particular extended attribute. getfattr (makes me giggle everytime) will dump out a list of attributes. Is there a way I can use find to do this? something like 'find -type f -exec getfattr '{}' | grep filebot \; -exec-returns-nonzero -print |
| 21:37.34 | harleypig | the -exec-returns-nonzero is what I can't figure out. |
| 21:37.49 | harleypig | s/out./out how to do./ |
| 21:39.29 | jlp_znc | use File::Find, perl, and roll your own |
| 21:39.54 | jlp_znc | (File::ExtAttr will probably help) |
| 21:40.26 | harleypig | jlp_znc: yeah, I know about those ... I was hoping to avoid doing that. |
| 21:41.56 | jlp_znc | so, you want to print ones that don't have the filebot attribute? |
| 21:42.09 | harleypig | yeah |
| 21:42.17 | jlp_znc | can't you use ! -exec |
| 21:42.19 | jlp_znc | ? |
| 21:42.31 | jlp_znc | (find supports ! for "not") |
| 21:42.48 | jlp_znc | you'll probably have to escape it, and you'll have to escape your pipe, too |
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| 21:51.58 | jlp_znc | ~moss |
| 21:51.58 | infobot | Well that's easy to remember. 0118 999 88199 9119 725! 3! |
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| 21:53.35 | eightyeight | !linux |
| 21:53.37 | eightyeight | ~linux |
| 21:53.37 | infobot | Is there tech support by phone available for my Linux, Ubunto? |
| 21:53.48 | eightyeight | misses that page |
| 21:53.54 | jfindlay | lol |
| 21:54.02 | jlp_znc | Ubunto |
| 21:54.04 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 21:54.13 | jfindlay | youbuntew |
| 21:54.35 | eightyeight | so many gems lost |
| 21:54.38 | eightyeight | https://www.linux.com/contact |
| 21:55.04 | eightyeight | always the wayback machine though. :) |
| 21:55.39 | eightyeight | https://web.archive.org/web/20150905062504/https://www.linux.com/contact |
| 21:55.58 | eightyeight | "sir,i want to learn linux system adminstration.please suggest any authorised coaching center in hyderabad" |
| 21:56.21 | eightyeight | "Thank in information you linux.com" |
| 21:58.10 | eightyeight | "Hey Torvalds, Ian ran out of hash again, where will you get the money? Then that is his problem again, right?" |
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| 22:06.30 | harleypig | In case anyone is interested: find -type f -not -exec sh -c "getfattr '{}' | grep filebot > /dev/null" \; -and -print |
| 22:08.02 | SunSparc | "Please I need a linux. OS for my HP min laptop" |
| 22:08.51 | SunSparc | "Can Linux comunicate with XL or other Windows files?" |
| 22:19.46 | youtah | "I need help setting up a wordpress website... I'll pay you a thousand dollars!" |
| 22:19.59 | youtah | uhhhhh, how about I help you, and you buy me a cheeseburger |
| 22:24.41 | SunSparc | $1000 and a chezburger |
| 22:24.55 | SunSparc | Or 1000 chezburgers |
| 22:25.13 | SunSparc | Or 1000 chez and 1 burger |
| 22:25.49 | SunSparc | ~:-)stats |
| 22:30.09 | SunSparc | ~lolcat youtah |
| 22:30.09 | infobot | ACTION takes a picture of youtah eyeing a cheezburga |
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