IRC log for #utah on 20160829

03:58.57jfindlayI guess you already have 'Beale', so I'm not sure it's the same thing
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14:45.03youtahDo you think that the USPS would mail a letter that has been sealed with a wax stamp?
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15:02.12programmerqthere are a few forum posts that come up on google that suggest that it's doable. some say that the post office has you pay extra since they can't put them through their machines. others say that the wax didn't survive.
15:07.37youtahhmmmmm, that's a disappointment
15:07.45youtahWe should try it
15:20.33fadeinbe sure to use cryptographic wax, so you can tell if somebody has tampered with the envelope
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16:26.29jlp_znc~worf
16:26.29infobotI am not a Merry Man!
16:34.08eightyeightjIH lolchu` mar wej Sev maS Qat
16:37.01jfindlayeightyeight is speaking in password now
16:37.21eightyeighttlhagh vIn Hay` 24 meq jeH netlh qatlhDa`
16:37.42eightyeighthey, i'm proud of my generator, okay? it even has a mobile view!
16:37.48jfindlay~napoleon jlp_znc
16:37.48infobotACTION makes jlp_znc his secret service captain
16:39.22eightyeightadditional word lists to add: pgp words, peerio, bitcoin
16:39.41eightyeightalso will add: base10 (digits), mnemonicode, and keyname
16:40.11eightyeightto work on: leet-speak needs more randomness in the regex search/replace
16:40.28eightyeightoh, also going to add more constructed languages (lojban, elvish, etc.)
16:40.53youtah~rot13 leet
16:40.53infobotyrrg
16:59.00jlp_znc~youtah
16:59.00infobotMmmm Bacon
16:59.07jlp_znc~trump youtah
16:59.07infobotACTION orange frosts youtah's hair
17:00.32youtahlol
17:00.35youtahNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:00.38youtahside note
17:00.48youtahwe got the 48 foot tower installed on the top of Lake Mountain over the weekend
17:01.27jlp_zncyou are on top of a mountain and still needed 48 additional feet?
17:01.35youtahlol
17:01.40youtahyeah, to get over the small hills and such
17:01.56jlp_znc"on top of a mountain"
17:01.59youtahsharper angles downward
17:02.39jlp_zncso people climbing the mountain can connect to your mesh network from their sleeping bag?
17:03.27youtahyup
17:04.27youtahThere is a 30 foot hill to the South
17:04.34youtahthat we are trying to get over to link to West Mountain
17:05.48youtahjlp_znc, http://i.imgur.com/CkSehN6.png
17:06.06youtahshort tower versus taller tower
17:06.17youtahsome of the towers up there had to be 400 feet tall
17:06.20youtahthey were HUGE
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17:15.11manithreewants to get his amateur radio license to hog all the bandwidth watching youtube from Little Baldy
17:16.32jholtomyoutah: where is your link on west mountain?
17:17.24youtahit is a 2.4GHz (channel -2, 10MHz bandwidth) overlooking Benjamin and Spanish Fork.
17:17.30youtahI can hit it from my place in Lehi
17:17.39youtahbut it's like 34 miles
17:17.42jholtomno, I mean where on the mountain
17:18.07youtahwe are renting space from a renter up there "free"
17:18.11jholtomoh ok
17:18.38jholtomwhat kind of link speeds do you typically get?
17:19.20youtahFrom that far?
17:19.22youtah3Mbps
17:19.26youtahthe one on lake mountain
17:19.29youtah45MBps
17:19.31youtahMbps
17:19.59youtahwe can run as wide as 20 MHz, but with us being on channel -2, if we go to 20MHz, we will be out of band
17:20.03youtahso we stick with 10
17:20.05jholtomyup
17:20.47jholtomhow do you get up to do maintenance in the winter?
17:21.20youtahwe dont
17:21.32jholtomoh ok
17:21.40jholtomthats a pretty good answer honestly, considering it gets hairy
17:21.44youtahWe could snow mobile if needs be... but the preferred method of choice is helicopter
17:21.52youtahbut we are poor
17:21.55youtahso no heli
17:24.46jholtomwe're debating putting up a link to the observatory on the mountain, so they're no longer using satellite internet and suffering
17:26.06youtahhttp://www.ksl.com/?sid=41250927&nid=157
17:26.16youtahOh!
17:26.26youtahThat could be fun... you guys could piggyback off the mesh node
17:26.38youtahbut it would require that you have your ham radio license
17:27.05jholtomhaha, I do
17:27.18jholtomKF5WPA here
17:27.28youtahAwesome
17:27.37youtahDid you get your license in Texas?
17:27.43youtah(or somewhere near there?)
17:28.05youtahN1SC here
17:28.15jholtomno actually, I got it in virginia, however the person who read my paperwork thought the VA looked like LA and so I got a lousiana area license number
17:28.29youtahLOL
17:29.00youtah5 & 6 calls I ignore
17:29.04youtahwhen working HF
17:29.10youtahI get SOOOOOOOO many 5 & 6 calls
17:29.14jlp_zncit's all those dots
17:29.53jlp_zncfive is the best
17:38.00spangborn~brave--
17:38.10spangborn~trump youtah
17:38.10infobotACTION bankrupts youtah
17:38.21spangbornWow that was a bit much infobot
17:38.23youtahnot again
17:38.32spangborninfobot: be nice
17:38.32infobotmethinks be nice is don't be mean, be nice..
17:38.49youtahlunch timmmmmmme
17:38.58youtahnom nom nom
17:39.05spangbornWhat's for lunch?
17:39.17youtahWater and a PB&J Sandwhich
17:39.26youtahSandwich
17:39.39youtahand a quick drive to my house to pick up an amazon package
17:39.55youtahhttp://www.sltrib.com/home/4267300-155/rolly-climate-change-denier-to-speak-at << fozzmoo
17:41.39spangbornI'll pick up your Amazon package
17:41.44spangbornIs it anything good?
17:41.50youtah:)
17:42.32spangbornOh no you ordered that drum of lube didn't you.
17:42.59youtahOver rated
17:43.09youtahI have more radio stuff coming
17:43.18spangbornDidn't really work for your Subie engine?
17:43.25spangbornThat explains the trade-in.
17:44.08youtahnaw
17:44.12eightyeightheh
17:44.13youtahthat is because I got two flats
17:44.13eightyeighthah
17:44.15eightyeight:)
17:44.16youtahlol
17:44.17eightyeight?
17:44.19spangbornHaha @ two flats
17:44.21spangborn~brave--
17:44.25eightyeight~brave++
17:44.31youtahI got two flats at the SAME time
17:44.37youtahout in the west desert
17:44.53spangbornI heard you were running from UHP and got spiked
17:45.03spangborn(Kidding.)
17:45.09youtahI ran over a pikachu
17:45.24spangbornHaha. Shocking
17:45.35youtahSo I have been on this diet now 3 weeks
17:45.40youtahI have lost 7lbs
17:45.49spangbornThe water and PB&J diet?
17:45.57youtahI ate McDonalds yesterday in a pinch, and I felt horrible
17:46.12eightyeighti've never felt good eating fast food
17:46.15youtahI actually felt sick
17:46.32eightyeighttastes great on the tongue. the stomach disagrees.
17:46.48youtahI have been averaging 1300 calories per day, net
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17:48.20youtahjholtom, jlp_znc here are photos from the Lake Mountain install
17:48.21youtahhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/r5zimr3j8mtfs19/AACkRKMAmUpOinqRmpn1T7kna?dl=0
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17:50.48youtahjholtom & jlp_znc here are the photos from the West Mountain site: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bswrle020bx9d16/AACsOvNO4xemmx9bUnujQm_ha?dl=0
17:50.59youtahSO. MANY. SPIDERS.
17:51.18spangbornHow many brown recluses?
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17:52.16jholtomI need to put the tire back on my truck and go up there and see what I'd be working with
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17:52.33jholtomlooks like not a bad setup though
17:52.55jholtomthough now that I know there are others doing 2.4 up there, have to start thinking about interference
17:53.20youtahwe went with channel -2 because there is SOOOO much noise with 1-11
17:53.41youtahand since it is part of the ham bands, no ecrypted traffic is allowed
17:53.49youtahno streaming audio or movies
17:54.00youtahno ssh, https, ssl anything
17:54.11jholtomwe'd have to be in a different band entirely
17:54.20jholtomeverything we do needs to be encrypted basically
17:54.21youtahor a different frequency
17:54.30youtahor get a commercial frequency
17:54.33youtahand have it all to yourself
17:54.43youtah3GHz would would very well
17:54.47jholtomI'm already dealing with one licensing nightmare, I don't need another :P
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17:55.29youtahalright, leaving for real this time
17:55.30youtahttyl
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17:58.05eightyeightyoutah: wolf spiders?
17:58.38eightyeighthmm. nvm. wolf spiders aren't web weavers
18:03.53eightyeightmaybe the hobo spider?
18:04.00eightyeightwho's an arachnid expert?
18:10.05eightyeightbarn funnel weaver, maybe?
18:10.26eightyeightabdomen pattern is wrong though
18:11.42programmerqeightyeight: what is the picture you're looking at?
18:11.53eightyeight2-5
18:11.59eightyeighthttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/bswrle020bx9d16/AACsOvNO4xemmx9bUnujQm_ha?dl=0
18:14.30programmerqthis is my first vote: http://www.spiders.us/species/argiope-aurantia/
18:14.52programmerqcheck out the "view more pictures" - they can be all sorts of colors, including the ones in that dropbox link.
18:15.50eightyeightthe legs are wrong
18:16.15programmerqhttp://www.spiders.us/species/filter/utah/ - they were the closest from working from this page as far as I can tell.
18:16.19programmerqmaybe ask /r/spiders ?
18:16.24eightyeighthttp://wildutah.us/index_spiders.html
18:17.12eightyeighthttp://wildutah.us/html/insects_other/h_spdr_orbweaverbackai.html possibly
18:17.50programmerqyeah, there are *tons* of orbweavers. those pics didn't show the eye pattern, so it's harder to tell.
18:17.53eightyeighthttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NeoscanaOaxacensisLagunaBeach1.JPG
18:17.55programmerqeyes are one of the biggest givaways
18:18.06programmerqoh yeah, that looks rpetty close.
18:18.11eightyeighthttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=Neoscona+Oaxacensis&iax=1&ia=images
18:18.44eightyeightyoutah: WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE A PHOTO OF THE EYES!?
18:18.54eightyeightyou had ONE JOB
18:19.18eightyeight:)
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19:14.47youtahI kept trying eightyeight ... but they kept insisting we rub its belly instead
19:16.19leviHeh, the DMA controller on these SoCs has its own debug port.
19:16.36youtaheightyeight, that are of the Orb Spider family
19:18.41youtahOh, they call into the Araneidae family
19:32.02youtahhttps://twitter.com/meetflamingos (fbomb)
19:32.59leviGeez, no wonder this thing has its own debug port. It's basically a simple CPU, not your everyday DMA engine.
19:35.35leviDMA "scripts" are essentially machine language programs.
19:37.55leviI suspect a lot of SoC DMA engines are actually implemented this way, but they rarely expose the internal programming model to the end user.
19:48.58youtahGene Wilder passed away
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20:06.17jlp_znc"steady as a rock" "but I shoot with this hand"  
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20:27.14Migsawww, he did :(
20:46.40romanovicyoutah: do you (or any other hams in here) have experience with software-defined radios?  I ordered a receiver (rtl sdr silver stick) that looked like it had good reviews
20:46.52youtahRoger
20:47.03youtahthat is what I used to tap into the IF of my FT-857D
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20:47.24youtahand that IF is at 86MHz so I didn't need an up converter
20:47.37youtahmake sure to set the offset so you get away from the DC spike
20:47.55youtahLook at using HDSDR or Airspy for it
20:48.14youtahif you use the dongle alone, you'll want the up converter to listen to the HF frequencies
20:48.24romanovicare either of those on Linux?  I don't have any windows machines
20:48.35youtahrsimpkins is much better at it than I am
20:48.49youtahI *think* so with the HDSDR
20:49.14youtaharg
20:49.15youtahnope
20:49.39youtahLooks like it runs in Wine
20:49.43youtahhttps://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/2e58bz/install_script_for_hdsdr_on_linux/
20:51.14romanovichmm I'll check it out, thanks. I read about gnu radio and some other free software package that was based on it, but don't know what people prefer in the real world
20:52.11romanovicGqrx.  That was the other one I saw
20:52.20eightyeighthttps://twitter.com/AaronToponce/status/770363111027073024
20:52.28youtahhttp://airspy.com/download/
20:52.31youtahAirspy
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22:40.32jfindlaynot the best idea is riding a bike 5 km up a steep hill when you are sick
22:41.35youtahjust installed and tried brave
22:41.36youtahLOL
22:43.29jfindlay~napoleon youtah
22:43.29infobotACTION hunts woverines in Alaska with youtah's cousins
22:44.20jlp_znc~hillary jfindlay
22:44.20infobotACTION hides a scandal from jfindlay
22:45.37youtahTIL that Zika Virus can be a STD
22:50.36youtahApparently there is now a case of an infected male (didnt know he was infected) that came home and infected a women via sex... and she had not been anywhere near, where getting (bitten) the Zika Virus was a possibility.
22:51.26youtahbut they haven't "proven" it
22:51.33youtahso it is currently a theory still
22:52.11RyanEwell, they do ask about Zika when you give blood, I believe including if you've had sex with someone who was in Zika-infected areas recently.
22:53.54youtahdoesn't donate blood
22:53.58youtahfreaks me out
23:02.58jlp_zncheh
23:03.09jlp_zncdremex will donate blood, but he doesn't watch. :-)
23:09.50youtahwhy isn't he in here anymore btw
23:09.57youtahI'll have to harass him
23:29.06RyanEI figure I'm O+, which something like 80% of people can use, so they like my blood...
23:29.12RyanEand it doesn't bug me since I've done it since I was 17.
23:29.31RyanE(except when work was sending me regularly to Asia, which disqualified me for 3 or so years).

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