| 01:47.04 | *** join/#utah jima (jima@fedora/jima) |
| 05:18.03 | eightyeight | heh |
| 05:18.05 | eightyeight | hah |
| 05:18.07 | eightyeight | :) |
| 05:18.09 | eightyeight | ? |
| 05:18.47 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 05:20.11 | eightyeight | ~vivaldi-- |
| 05:20.16 | eightyeight | ~opera-- |
| 05:20.18 | eightyeight | ~ie-- |
| 05:20.20 | eightyeight | ~edge-- |
| 05:20.24 | eightyeight | ~safari-- |
| 05:20.27 | eightyeight | ~chrome-- |
| 05:20.30 | eightyeight | ~firefox++ |
| 05:20.32 | eightyeight | ~chromium++ |
| 05:20.34 | eightyeight | ~brave++ |
| 05:20.36 | eightyeight | ~midori++ |
| 05:20.54 | eightyeight | â23:20:38 <infobot> Too many queries from you, ignoring for 5 minutes. |
| 05:20.56 | eightyeight | heh |
| 05:20.58 | eightyeight | hah |
| 05:21.01 | eightyeight | :) |
| 05:21.02 | eightyeight | ? |
| 05:21.53 | klys | is looking at coding with libgpm to create a simple paste tool. |
| 06:16.37 | klys | now has a TIOCLINUX tool. |
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| 15:03.22 | unum | I realized yesterday that I didn't explain the idea of mistress as it is explained in the book |
| 15:03.46 | unum | in book she explain the role of the mistress as being about both emotional and physical intmacy |
| 15:04.02 | unum | where as the wife role is more about running the household |
| 15:05.11 | eightyeight | according to wikipedia, a mistress is not married, but in a long-term stable relationship |
| 15:05.13 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistress_(lover) |
| 15:06.06 | programmerq | I missed why this came up in the first place. confused as to why it's coming up again. :/ |
| 15:06.48 | eightyeight | 10:24 <+jfindlay> ~napoleon eightyeight |
| 15:06.50 | eightyeight | 10:24 * infobot takes eightyeight's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 15:06.52 | eightyeight | 10:26 <+eightyeight> i don't think my wife (your cousin) would be happy with ibot falsely announcing that i have a girlfriend |
| 15:06.54 | eightyeight | 10:27 <unum> isn't your wife your girlfriend? |
| 15:06.56 | eightyeight | 10:27 <unum> my wife is my girlfriend |
| 15:06.58 | eightyeight | 10:27 <+eightyeight> i think girlfriends get upgraded to wives |
| 15:06.59 | programmerq | oh, that's right |
| 15:07.00 | eightyeight | 10:27 <unum> we were reading this book that said a woman has three roles wife,mother, mistriss |
| 15:07.02 | eightyeight | 10:28 <unum> so I guess I should say my wife is my mistriss |
| 15:07.03 | programmerq | I remember seeing that now |
| 15:07.30 | eightyeight | :) |
| 15:07.39 | eightyeight | heh |
| 15:07.40 | eightyeight | hah |
| 15:07.42 | eightyeight | ? |
| 15:08.02 | fadein | eightyeight: you keep leaving out hih, hoh and huh |
| 15:08.14 | eightyeight | infobot doesn't track those |
| 15:08.16 | eightyeight | ~hehstats |
| 15:08.17 | infobot | total count of heh on #utah: 1595. Top 3: eightyeight -- 490 (30.7%), fozzmoo -- 152 (9.5%), harleypig -- 140 (8.8%) |
| 15:08.20 | eightyeight | ~hahstats |
| 15:08.20 | infobot | total count of hah on #utah: 191. Top 3: goozbach -- 82 (42.9%), eightyeight -- 45 (23.6%), keldwud -- 13 (6.8%) |
| 15:08.25 | eightyeight | ~:)stats |
| 15:08.25 | infobot | total count of :) on #utah: 1684. Top 3: goozbach -- 276 (16.4%), eightyeight -- 135 (8.0%), fozzmoo -- 105 (6.2%) |
| 15:08.32 | fadein | well, maybe infobot should |
| 15:08.38 | fadein | hyh |
| 15:08.45 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 15:08.50 | eightyeight | ~?stats |
| 15:08.50 | infobot | total count of ? on #utah: 551. Top 3: goozbach -- 137 (24.9%), eightyeight -- 50 (9.1%), youtah -- 43 (7.8%) |
| 15:09.12 | eightyeight | ~lolstats |
| 15:09.12 | infobot | total count of lol on #utah: 2113. Top 3: youtah -- 1010 (47.8%), keldwud -- 115 (5.4%), Q_Continuum -- 63 (3.0%) |
| 15:09.57 | harleypig | ~mehstats |
| 15:10.04 | harleypig | meh |
| 15:10.11 | eightyeight | only those 5, iirc |
| 15:10.15 | harleypig | ~fehstats |
| 15:10.17 | harleypig | feh |
| 15:10.25 | fadein | huh |
| 15:10.33 | harleypig | ~huhstats |
| 15:21.16 | harleypig | ~*stats |
| 15:21.40 | harleypig | ~statsstats |
| 15:32.00 | jima | ~lolstats |
| 15:32.00 | infobot | total count of lol on #utah: 2113. Top 3: youtah -- 1010 (47.8%), keldwud -- 115 (5.4%), Q_Continuum -- 63 (3.0%) |
| 15:32.27 | jnbek | lol |
| 15:41.14 | jima | eightyeight: the real question is, is nsa.gov up for you because nsa, or down for @dangoodin001 because nsa? |
| 15:41.47 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 15:42.20 | eightyeight | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/nsa.gov |
| 15:42.31 | eightyeight | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.nsa.gov |
| 15:42.35 | eightyeight | heh |
| 15:51.45 | eightyeight | https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/08/internet-protocol-version-6-ipv6-support-for-amazon-s3/ |
| 15:51.59 | jima | s3. *yawn* |
| 15:52.05 | eightyeight | amazon s3 now has full ipv6 support. 1 down, a gajillion more amazon services to go |
| 15:52.15 | jima | wake me up when they get it fully-ish deployed for ec2. |
| 15:52.22 | eightyeight | ++ |
| 15:53.01 | jima | wait, needs more snark |
| 15:56.14 | jima | https://twitter.com/utah_ipv6/status/765577773901422592 |
| 16:04.18 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 16:17.26 | jlp_znc | so, (back on the wife, mistress, girlfriend thing), in ham speak, your YL is your girlfriend (young lady) and your wife is your XYL. |
| 16:18.34 | spangborn | Because she's old now? |
| 16:18.44 | spangborn | Formerly young |
| 16:21.42 | *** join/#utah eightyeight (~eightyeig@oalug/member/eightyeight) |
| 16:21.42 | *** mode/#utah [+v eightyeight] by ChanServ |
| 16:21.59 | jlp_znc | yeah, but you'd better not call her your OL :-) |
| 16:22.29 | jlp_znc | other hams are typically referred to as OM, though |
| 16:23.14 | programmerq | oh nice, I didn't realize amazon was doing _anything_ on s3 support. I wonder if that includes cloudfront. |
| 16:23.17 | programmerq | goes to investigate |
| 16:24.05 | programmerq | appears not to be so |
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| 16:42.43 | jima | eightyeight: ha, you'll follow my sock puppet on twitter, but not me? ;-) |
| 16:43.17 | frostyfrog | perks up. |
| 16:43.22 | frostyfrog | sock puppet? |
| 16:43.44 | spangborn | To be fair, sock puppets are pretty entertaining if done by a master puppet master |
| 16:45.51 | eightyeight | jima: i'm not following you? |
| 16:45.54 | jima | spangborn: i'll be honest, i'm not that much of a sock puppet master |
| 16:46.05 | jima | eightyeight: doesn't look like it, unless i missed it in my skim |
| 16:47.12 | eightyeight | huh. thought i was. sorry about that. |
| 16:47.27 | jima | i don't particularly care, i just thought it was funny |
| 16:47.45 | jima | i tweet way more as myself than as my sock puppet |
| 16:49.42 | jima | besides, clearly no one in utah particularly cares about ipv6 ;-) |
| 16:52.06 | eightyeight | looks around |
| 16:52.59 | frostyfrog | I'm slow to move. It doesn't help that I have a hefty sized iptables config along with figuring out how I want to slice and dice my internal network... |
| 16:54.00 | jima | eightyeight: yeah, i know about your employer's misadventures, particularly with utopia. |
| 16:54.39 | eightyeight | s/\.$/ and juniper./ |
| 16:55.36 | jima | well, the juniper stuff i heard was related to utopia support, iirc. |
| 16:56.02 | jima | pppoe + radius + juniper + utopia = fail |
| 16:56.34 | jima | sadly, it never happened in the 3 years i lived in a utopia city. |
| 16:56.34 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 16:56.44 | eightyeight | :( |
| 16:57.28 | jima | now i have native v6 at home (barely, thanks to the stupid cisco cable modem), just not an isp i particularly like or fast speeds. |
| 16:59.29 | TodPunk | wait |
| 16:59.36 | TodPunk | you're on Utopia and you're not on Xmission? |
| 16:59.44 | jima | ... |
| 16:59.52 | TodPunk | oh, you WERE |
| 17:00.01 | jima | i was on xmission the three years i lived in a utopia city. |
| 17:00.42 | TodPunk | misses Utopia and Xmission |
| 17:00.56 | TodPunk | CenturyLink gigabit isn't so bad, though |
| 17:01.00 | jima | honestly, even if i weren't particularly fond of xmission's style, none of the other options are even that attractive. |
| 17:01.05 | TodPunk | if they could figure out what to do about static IPs I'd be fine |
| 17:02.02 | jima | yeah, i still have a /29 with comcast business. |
| 17:02.13 | jima | (rather than the /28 i had with xmission) |
| 17:02.39 | TodPunk | I'd be satisfied with a /29 |
| 17:02.44 | TodPunk | I'd be satisfied with a /32 |
| 17:02.52 | TodPunk | but a /29 would be better |
| 17:03.30 | jima | meanwhile at work i have a /22 and /40 |
| 17:04.06 | jima | i'm happy that i have better internet resources at work than at home, there've been a few times in my career where that wasn't the case. |
| 17:05.54 | TodPunk | I have only rarely had better at work than home |
| 17:06.30 | TodPunk | That's not true, actually, I forget I was on DSL for a few years until I needed more upload |
| 17:06.32 | jima | having 1000/1000 at home and 100/100 at work was...funny. |
| 17:06.50 | TodPunk | has 1000/1000 at home now, and 50/20 at work |
| 17:07.17 | TodPunk | but it's Alpine here at work, so watcha gonna do? |
| 17:07.30 | jima | i'm down to 120/i-don't-know-what at home now |
| 17:07.48 | jima | but at least there aren't caps. |
| 17:08.23 | unum | eightyeight: I concede that your definition are the more common ones, but I still prefer mine :) |
| 17:08.42 | eightyeight | :) |
| 17:14.01 | *** join/#utah youtah (~Jeff@63.228.192.221) |
| 17:14.07 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/xLR0qgX.gifv |
| 17:14.46 | Migs | hahahahaha |
| 17:27.55 | frostyfrog | Related to speeds, I find that the fact that it's normal for my gateway's ping/traceroute at home to range from 200-400ms. :/ |
| 17:28.04 | frostyfrog | a bit absurd |
| 17:33.42 | youtah | https://twitter.com/AstroKatie/status/765202013281857538 |
| 17:34.13 | youtah | side note... we are headed up to the top of West Mountain to install our first 2.4ghz wireless mesh node |
| 17:35.49 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 17:35.51 | spangborn | ~karma brave |
| 17:35.51 | infobot | brave has karma of 128 |
| 17:38.53 | eightyeight | ~vivaldi-- |
| 17:40.56 | goozbach | I was excited by vivialdi but it's been nothing but a PITA since I started using it |
| 17:41.05 | goozbach | pin'ed tabs don't come back when you restart |
| 17:41.16 | goozbach | or it comes back with pinned tabs and that many tabs again |
| 17:41.28 | goozbach | or doesn't come back at all and you have to manually restart your session |
| 17:41.30 | goozbach | freexing |
| 17:41.33 | eightyeight | ~edge-- |
| 17:41.37 | goozbach | *freezing |
| 17:41.38 | goozbach | etc |
| 17:41.41 | eightyeight | ~ie-- |
| 17:41.47 | eightyeight | ~karma ie |
| 17:41.47 | infobot | ie has karma of -815 |
| 17:41.55 | goozbach | ~vivaldi-- |
| 17:42.04 | eightyeight | ~chrome-- |
| 17:42.14 | eightyeight | ~safari-- |
| 17:42.19 | eightyeight | ~opera-- |
| 17:42.32 | eightyeight | goozbach: i will say that the stacked tabs feature is nice |
| 17:42.33 | jima | youtah: good luck with interference |
| 17:42.42 | eightyeight | i has far too many tabs open at times |
| 17:43.23 | youtah | We've already done several tests jima |
| 17:43.26 | youtah | no interference |
| 17:43.50 | jima | wow |
| 17:44.01 | eightyeight | turns on his microwave oven |
| 17:44.02 | youtah | We've already made 34 mile links on 2.4GHz (channel -2) at 10mhz bandwidth with 200milliwatts |
| 17:44.23 | youtah | We've been doing testing for literally a year |
| 17:44.28 | youtah | actually 13 months now |
| 17:44.29 | jima | channel -2? how much hackery with THAT require? |
| 17:44.36 | jima | s/with/did/ |
| 17:44.38 | youtah | we run AREDN |
| 17:44.44 | youtah | (ham band) |
| 17:45.16 | youtah | We're using the Ubiquiti M2 Nanobridges flashed with AREDN with the 22dbi dishs |
| 17:45.44 | youtah | The ARRL president told us to be prepared for at least 3 lightning strikes on our tower every month during the winter |
| 17:46.04 | youtah | Errrrrrrrrr |
| 17:46.09 | youtah | Section President |
| 17:46.13 | youtah | (over Utah) |
| 17:47.46 | jima | youtah: neat |
| 17:47.51 | jima | using 44/8, or...? |
| 17:51.08 | frostyfrog | Is that only for HAM, or what is that for? |
| 17:51.11 | frostyfrog | is interested |
| 17:53.12 | youtah | um. jima we havent figured all of that out yet |
| 17:53.20 | youtah | in fact there is a big meeting this wednesday to discuss standards, etc |
| 17:53.23 | youtah | and what we want to do |
| 17:53.25 | jima | sounds like you'd probably need a license to use channel -2, so... |
| 17:53.31 | youtah | Yes, correct |
| 17:53.39 | youtah | Even just a simple Technicians license |
| 17:53.40 | jima | frostyfrog: ^ that is |
| 17:54.08 | jima | youtah: is there even an ipv6 counterpart to 44/8? i'm not seeing an obvious indication. |
| 17:54.14 | youtah | Join us jima and you can help us make decisions |
| 17:54.23 | youtah | not yet |
| 17:54.34 | youtah | I think just simply because it doesn't exist yet |
| 17:54.50 | jima | i don't have a license, nor a particular amount of free time to get one |
| 17:55.03 | youtah | you could probably walk in and pass |
| 17:55.06 | youtah | without studying |
| 17:55.19 | youtah | if you can multiple and divide by 300, you're set |
| 17:55.34 | jima | 44/8 is announced out of AS7377, university of california @ san diego...which has two v6 announcements, neither of which look ham-related. |
| 17:55.42 | youtah | 300 million meters per second = 300 megahertz makes things pretty simple |
| 17:55.43 | jima | i also lack the money to get into ham :-P |
| 17:55.57 | youtah | $14 for the test |
| 17:56.08 | youtah | $10 trillion for the rest of your life |
| 17:56.09 | jima | i'm talking about the hardware. ;-) |
| 17:56.14 | jima | yeah, that part |
| 17:56.17 | youtah | but I wont tell you about that until after you get your license |
| 17:56.31 | jima | too late, i know too many hams for that to be a secret. |
| 17:57.02 | youtah | frostyfrog, we are going to have essentially Utah County, Davis County and Salt Lake County, and several parts of Weber and Tooele online over the next year |
| 17:58.34 | youtah | any ham radio operator that has their license, can jump on. |
| 17:59.07 | youtah | The only peak we've had issues with, is overloading from the broad cast stations on Farnsworth peak |
| 17:59.11 | youtah | that is going to be the tricky site |
| 17:59.27 | youtah | they are running 60,000 watts |
| 17:59.34 | youtah | and they are overloading the radios |
| 18:00.19 | youtah | but we're working on some filters for them with external antennas and shielded transcievers |
| 18:00.21 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/AaronToponce/status/765335355952357376 |
| 18:01.32 | jima | weirdly, despite the not-small amount of overlap between ipv6 geeks and ham geeks, i'm not seeing much direction on that. |
| 18:05.19 | jlp_znc | youtah: have you constructed some cavities for the 2.4GHz band? That and putting your radios in a grounded metal box would probably help. |
| 18:05.39 | youtah | one of the guys is working on them |
| 18:05.55 | youtah | dual cavities |
| 18:06.24 | jlp_znc | http://www.innowaverf.com/2-4ghz-wifi-band-filter_model_511-2400m-2485m |
| 18:07.35 | youtah | most of the commercial stuff doesn't full pass -2 |
| 18:07.38 | youtah | is what we have been finding |
| 18:07.49 | youtah | 2.397 |
| 18:07.52 | youtah | GHz |
| 18:08.39 | youtah | so according to that graph, we'd lose 10-15db alone |
| 18:09.04 | jlp_znc | http://www.wimax-industry.com/sp/atc/wificbf1.htm most of these are 2001-4000MHz |
| 18:09.24 | youtah | ah cool |
| 18:09.29 | youtah | I wonder how much they cost |
| 18:09.38 | jlp_znc | no idea... no prices :-) |
| 18:09.43 | youtah | yeah |
| 18:09.45 | youtah | exactly, lol |
| 18:19.44 | jima | if you have to ask, you can't afford it. |
| 18:20.00 | youtah | exactly |
| 18:20.12 | youtah | one of the guys found a plan online |
| 18:20.19 | youtah | he also has a machien shop in spanish fork |
| 18:20.22 | youtah | machine |
| 18:20.23 | jima | pricinginquiries@vendor.com -> /dev/null |
| 18:20.28 | youtah | lol |
| 18:20.45 | youtah | /dev/random > pricinginquiries |
| 18:21.08 | jlp_znc | so is he going to mass produce them? could be a nice little side business making them for ham use. |
| 18:21.38 | youtah | I highly doubt it |
| 18:27.28 | youtah | http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/13/sports/olympics/can-you-beat-usain-bolt-out-of-the-blocks.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1 |
| 19:08.23 | frostyfrog | wonders if A) they can find enough time for HAM and B) could even pass the test... Hmmm... |
| 19:08.43 | frostyfrog | Oh yeah, then theres the money issue :/ |
| 19:15.15 | youtah | the Ubiquiti gear, we are picking up used for $30 |
| 19:15.23 | youtah | and then the PoE injector for $4.50 |
| 19:15.39 | youtah | and then you can get a very entry level HT for $26 |
| 19:15.54 | youtah | That will do both VHF and UHF |
| 19:16.56 | frostyfrog | Huh, a fair bit cheaper than I was expecting. :s |
| 19:17.33 | spangborn | I'm starting a touch tone phone club |
| 19:18.51 | youtah | is still waiting to see spangborn's cell phone bounce off the ionosphere at 300 million meters per second |
| 19:19.14 | spangborn | is still waiting to see the point of that |
| 19:19.28 | spangborn | I may even let rotary phone fans in my club |
| 19:19.55 | youtah | lol |
| 19:20.09 | jlp_znc | so, you know that rotary phones don't work any more, right? |
| 19:20.24 | spangborn | I'll build a virtual rotary phone network |
| 19:20.27 | jlp_znc | the new switches (as of, what, 15 years ago) don't understand the pulse dialing signal |
| 19:20.31 | youtah | ham radio still works |
| 19:20.31 | spangborn | It'll be amazing |
| 19:20.40 | youtah | ~twss |
| 19:20.40 | infobot | That's what she said! |
| 19:20.45 | spangborn | You know what else still works? Carrier pigeons. |
| 19:20.51 | youtah | yes they do |
| 19:20.53 | spangborn | Doesn't mean you should use them ;p |
| 19:21.07 | jlp_znc | giant squawking carrier pigeons? |
| 19:21.20 | youtah | wonder what a pidgeon would look like bouncing off the ionosphere at 300 million meters per second |
| 19:21.28 | jlp_znc | https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt |
| 19:21.35 | spangborn | Naw, we leave the squawking to aircraft. |
| 19:21.46 | spangborn | There is an RFC for everything. |
| 19:23.31 | youtah | jlp_znc, would a pigeon be horizontally or vertically polarized? |
| 19:23.47 | youtah | because it's head and body go up and down... but it's wings go side to side |
| 19:23.49 | jlp_znc | horizontally, I think (while in flight) |
| 19:23.57 | youtah | that is what I was thinking |
| 19:25.03 | romanovic | "what if" |
| 19:30.29 | jfindlay | youtah: pigeons are obviously circularly polarized |
| 19:30.43 | youtah | I think that's Seagulls |
| 19:31.14 | jfindlay | or maybe their smallest nonvanishing term is qudrupolar |
| 19:31.25 | jfindlay | quadrupolar |
| 19:32.19 | youtah | lol |
| 19:35.50 | youtah | I think I have run ipconfig and ifconfig 18 million times today |
| 19:43.10 | *** join/#utah julius` (~julius@107.182.238.123) |
| 19:43.27 | julius` | Hi |
| 19:44.14 | youtah | Hi julius` |
| 19:44.28 | julius` | who wants to suck on my big juicy cock and balls? |
| 19:44.56 | youtah | lol, "big" |
| 19:45.28 | julius` | yeah |
| 19:45.37 | julius` | why don't you whack around my ding dong and jiggle my nuts? |
| 19:46.24 | youtah | ~julius`-- |
| 19:46.30 | youtah | ~karma julius` |
| 19:46.30 | infobot | julius` has karma of -1 |
| 19:47.22 | julius` | why dont you kiss the head of my pecker you big jew |
| 19:47.34 | *** mode/#utah [+o eightyeight] by ChanServ |
| 19:47.36 | *** mode/#utah [+o eightyeight] by eightyeight |
| 19:47.37 | julius` | lol |
| 19:47.38 | *** mode/#utah [+b *!~julius@107.182.238.123] by eightyeight |
| 19:47.40 | *** kick/#utah [julius`!~eightyeig@oalug/member/eightyeight] by eightyeight (julius`) |
| 19:49.00 | jlp_znc | oh dear, he's back |
| 19:52.51 | *** mode/#utah [-v jlp_znc] by ChanServ |
| 19:53.29 | youtah | thank you btw eightyeight |
| 19:53.39 | eightyeight | np |
| 19:53.53 | youtah | I noticed that #utah now required registered nicks |
| 19:54.08 | eightyeight | kept him at bay for a while |
| 19:54.24 | youtah | that's just a lot of work for him to continue to troll |
| 19:54.50 | frostyfrog | :o first time I've seen someone other than infobot an op in this channel |
| 19:55.35 | youtah | needs to get better with his irc commands |
| 19:56.23 | jfindlay | IRC was designed by people who want you to spend lots of your life learning cryptic commands and flags |
| 19:56.27 | jfindlay | the many, many flags |
| 19:58.00 | frostyfrog | Ye, because otherwise, who knows what "n" or "r" or "nr" are supposed to mean :p |
| 19:58.23 | jlp_znc | it's been a constant battle to get new functionality into an old protocol. |
| 19:59.29 | jlp_znc | IRC has been around since 1988, you know. |
| 20:03.26 | frostyfrog | It'd be nice if I could continue using IRC instead of Discord/Slack/Zulip/Mattermost/etc. |
| 20:04.23 | jlp_znc | yeah, people around here use both slack and hangouts. seems like the more "hip" people use slack while those of us who just concentrate on getting things done use hangouts. :-) |
| 20:04.33 | jfindlay | it would be nice if IRC were a more extensible protocol :-) |
| 20:04.58 | jfindlay | slack has a decent IRC interface |
| 20:05.48 | frostyfrog | Certain commands don't work, however. Such as: /part, /invite, /kick, etc. |
| 20:06.09 | frostyfrog | I have to load up the UI in order to leave a channel. |
| 20:07.15 | jfindlay | yeah, that is one annoying thing |
| 20:07.44 | jlp_znc | we mostly used IRC at linkedin |
| 20:08.07 | jlp_znc | but we also used hangouts occasionally |
| 20:10.12 | romanovic | we mostly use endless email threads where I work |
| 20:10.23 | jlp_znc | oh yeah, we do that, too |
| 20:10.41 | jlp_znc | and no one understands how to trim the mail thread |
| 20:10.49 | jfindlay | :-) |
| 20:10.55 | jlp_znc | "'trim' it? why would you want to trim it?" |
| 20:11.11 | romanovic | we have group chat, but nobody uses it. when people do use chat, it is 1-1 or ad-hoc group chats that don't get saved |
| 20:11.35 | romanovic | the persistent team channels available to everyone go completely unused, except for my team |
| 20:15.43 | jlp_znc | I think most people just don't understand how to use chat tools |
| 20:15.57 | jlp_znc | they either treat it like facebook or like twitter |
| 20:16.35 | jlp_znc | or like IM ... I hate "are you there?" the most. |
| 20:17.04 | jlp_znc | that doesn't happen too much around here, thankfully, but at previous employers it was fairly rampant. |
| 20:17.29 | jlp_znc | them: "are you there?" me: "nope" them: "okay, I'll call you" |
| 20:17.31 | jlp_znc | aieee |
| 20:19.56 | jfindlay | what the huh? does that even mean? |
| 20:20.58 | unum | our call centers use the jabber chat rooms for keeping track of who called in |
| 20:21.04 | unum | each chat gets saved by day |
| 20:21.11 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: you should have changed your voicemail: "clearly I'm not here, so leave a message if you have anything to say besides 'are you there?'" |
| 20:27.02 | unum | didn't anyone else notice a massive drop in spam a few weeks ago |
| 20:29.11 | eightyeight | what are you seeing? |
| 20:29.52 | jfindlay | I see spam |
| 20:30.03 | jfindlay | that doesn't know it's spam |
| 20:30.38 | jlp_znc | jfindlay: :-) |
| 20:31.15 | jlp_znc | I've seen an increase of messages claiming to be "scanned documents" that I have supposedly been waiting for. |
| 20:31.54 | jlp_znc | I generally put them in the "delete before reading" pile. |
| 20:32.55 | jlp_znc | I'm not looking forward to being inundated with political campaign (physical) mail. already have receive two franked pieces from Mia Love as she tries to justify her gerrymandered existance. |
| 20:47.34 | RyanE | I "got a fax" email today. |
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| 20:47.40 | RyanE | I mean, seriously, a FAX? |
| 20:56.44 | jfindlay | I've donated to Doug Owens a few times. He's not 'my' congressman, but would represent me far better than any of the clowns the state republican party currently has in office |
| 20:58.29 | unum | I used to get like 80 a day, and now I get like 4 |
| 20:58.45 | unum | maybe I enabled a filter I didn't have enabled |
| 21:00.50 | frostyfrog | I think that accounting people generally uses fax because it's easier than "scan it in, find the file, attach to an email and mark the message as high-priority"... |
| 21:09.36 | jlp_znc | I think there is a perception that faxes are somehow "more secure" among business people (a.k.a. less technical people) |
| 21:13.37 | jfindlay | :-) |
| 21:21.48 | TodPunk | oh, no, that's not it |
| 21:21.58 | TodPunk | there are LAWS about how faxes are secure |
| 21:22.14 | TodPunk | because contract laws haven't been updated since on the subject |
| 21:22.33 | TodPunk | This is the ONLY reason VoIP ever cared about faxes interop |
| 21:24.15 | youtah | huh |
| 21:24.28 | youtah | so this is the uneasy feeling that Apple users constantly feel |
| 21:24.29 | youtah | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-hack-80-percent-users-linux/ |
| 21:25.31 | TodPunk | wasn't that the one that the /. write-up called "very difficult to pull off" |
| 21:25.40 | TodPunk | note the lack of a question mark in my statement |
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