| 00:07.41 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 01:03.38 | TodPunk | ~brave-- |
| 02:34.39 | goozbach | TodPunk: I think it was his vim one |
| 02:34.45 | goozbach | least I think i twere him |
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| 15:38.56 | unum | is ntpdate still the tool to use to sync your clock |
| 15:39.03 | unum | it seems like there was a replacement |
| 15:40.19 | eightyeight | ntpdate(8) should only be used if you need to do manual adjustment |
| 15:40.51 | eightyeight | otherwise, you should be running ntpd(8), so it can do automatic incremental adjustments |
| 15:43.47 | unum | that what I meant to say.... |
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| 15:58.12 | youtah_ | OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG |
| 15:58.15 | youtah_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/bjyVN |
| 15:58.21 | youtah_ | Now that is freaking amazing |
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| 16:19.10 | unum | I'm suprised he mad it that far |
| 16:19.59 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgSkml1AR4&feature=youtu.be |
| 16:22.41 | youtah | better link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diaCHYO7haY |
| 16:24.06 | programmerq | that was amazing |
| 16:24.26 | RyanE | Looks to me like he's up there before much is happening at the convention. |
| 16:24.37 | RyanE | which makes me believe it was quite a bit easier to get up there. |
| 16:27.56 | youtah | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/fix-httpproxy-cgi-application-vulnerability-for-linux-unix-apache-nginx-python-php/ |
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| 16:41.24 | unum | ya he did it yesterday |
| 16:41.30 | unum | I think |
| 16:45.07 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 16:45.07 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 16:58.00 | youtah | The internet can only handle so much greatness in little bits at a time. - Me |
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| 17:13.17 | jfindlay | youtah: is that the argument you've been giving to support your opposition to net neutrality? |
| 17:14.42 | youtah | I didn't say anything about speed |
| 17:15.13 | youtah | whether it is 1000mbps or 1mbps... it's still handling it as bits |
| 17:18.01 | jfindlay | how do you know that bits are little? |
| 17:18.22 | jfindlay | what's the biggest bit you've ever seen? |
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| 17:23.45 | youtah | What else would packets be made out of? Pancakes? |
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| 17:29.34 | eightyeight | jfindlay: size is irrelevant. it's mass that's important. |
| 17:47.06 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 18:06.28 | fadein | goozbach: https://github.com/fadein/screenkey |
| 18:06.40 | fadein | That should explain my footpedal OSD setup |
| 18:06.57 | fadein | a <$20 Adafruit project + some Python code |
| 18:09.11 | jfindlay | ~fadeout |
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| 18:34.50 | TodPunk | ~brave-- |
| 18:34.53 | TodPunk | ~karma brave |
| 18:34.53 | infobot | brave has karma of -5 |
| 18:42.53 | spangborn | ~youtah-- |
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| 18:49.25 | keldwud | derp |
| 18:55.52 | keldwud | anybody know how to get salt to mount a cifs share with -o? manually, I have to use sudo. |
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| 19:33.28 | youtah | So far I have generated 4840.52 kWh with my panels in 8.5 months |
| 19:33.51 | youtah | June has been my highest production month to date. 763.98kWh in June |
| 19:33.57 | youtah | May was 711, and I am at 436 for July so far. |
| 19:35.39 | goozbach | huh... ivan makfinsky is a contributor to screenkey. |
| 19:35.46 | programmerq | cool |
| 19:35.47 | goozbach | why hasn't this been on my radar before now. |
| 19:36.25 | programmerq | youtah: I've had several solar companies come out and do the initial bid thingy. it all boils down to the same basic story-- I'd end up paying about $60-$100 more per month overall for the duration of paying for the equipment |
| 19:36.57 | programmerq | as far as I can tell, it mostly has to do with the angle and placement of my roof being less than ideal |
| 19:37.26 | d3c4f | and once it's paid off, you can replace the whole thing! |
| 19:38.38 | youtah | programmerq :( |
| 19:38.49 | programmerq | the sales people try to spin it such that I'm raising the equity of my house, but I just haven't seen any data to suggest that a $15k solar system actually gets me $15k of equity. |
| 19:38.59 | youtah | d3c4f mine will be paid off in 5.5 years. It is a 30 year system |
| 19:39.15 | programmerq | sinking $15k into finishing my basement would probably get me more than $15k of equity. |
| 19:39.33 | programmerq | it'd certainly be nice to have a solar system, but the numbers just don't add up for my particular case. |
| 19:39.52 | youtah | it's all about the angle of the dangle from what I understand |
| 19:40.00 | programmerq | yeah |
| 19:41.11 | programmerq | my house faces northwest. they'd put the panels on the part of the roof that faces southeast. it is in shadow for a few hours of daylight at the end of the day. |
| 19:42.19 | RyanE | my house is also not great from that perspective. The front faces ESE, and due to a gable for the middle room, there's not much room on the front. |
| 19:42.33 | RyanE | the back is facing too far northwards to be too efficient facing 'westward'. |
| 19:42.56 | RyanE | I considered a *lot* of factors in building our house. Whether it would be a good solar candidate was not one of them. :) |
| 19:43.12 | programmerq | same |
| 19:45.59 | youtah | Side note |
| 19:46.16 | youtah | There was a study done by some prestigious institute that made the claim about the equity |
| 19:46.22 | youtah | I am trying to find it |
| 19:46.25 | youtah | but cannot |
| 19:46.37 | jima | youtah: i made it up |
| 19:46.40 | youtah | Here is a different article I did stumble across |
| 19:46.42 | youtah | http://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleaebeling/2011/08/01/how-much-do-solar-panels-boost-home-sale-prices/ |
| 19:46.56 | jima | youtah: to be fair, it was discredited, and i was found to be an affront to academia |
| 19:47.01 | youtah | it links to it in the brochure I have... I am too lazy to dig it up |
| 19:47.32 | youtah | I think it was from Standford |
| 19:47.47 | jima | is that the stanford knock-off? |
| 19:48.14 | jima | standford is where i usually publish my "studies" |
| 19:48.37 | youtah | what are you talking about? |
| 19:48.39 | RyanE | I've thought about putting on a deck on the back, with a 'deck roof' that happens to tilt the right amount for panels. |
| 19:48.45 | Jayce^ | programmerq: my house has perfect facing, so it wound up working a bit better for me |
| 19:49.25 | RyanE | my brother-in-law's house was about perfect as well. South-facing, with no protrusions on that side, and a rambler style, not too steep. |
| 19:49.38 | jima | youtah: the same as usual, making crap up |
| 19:50.28 | youtah | I have a South West facing home with zero obstructions |
| 19:50.50 | youtah | I get constant sun from about 10am - Sunset |
| 19:51.01 | RyanE | nice. |
| 19:51.23 | youtah | granted the angles at 10am and sunset are pretty sharp. |
| 19:51.57 | Jayce^ | I'm fully south, so my panels actually lose out a little bit before sunset right now because I haven't put any on my west side |
| 19:51.58 | RyanE | as would always be the case unless your house pivoted, which would be awesome. |
| 19:52.13 | RyanE | but it'd make connections a bitch. :) |
| 19:52.22 | youtah | LOL |
| 19:52.44 | youtah | Honey, I need to use the gas stove... can you rotate it back 15 degrees so I can get gas? |
| 19:52.57 | Jayce^ | nope, you've got too much gas already |
| 19:53.02 | RyanE | and after that, I need to use the toilet, so we need to go to 22Deg SE. |
| 19:53.39 | youtah | it would make bathroom windows exciting for all the neighbors |
| 19:53.46 | RyanE | the only orientation of our house that's advantageous is that when Cedar Hills does their fireworks, my wife can watch them out or bedroom window, lying on the bed. |
| 19:54.17 | RyanE | she discovered this 2 years ago. |
| 19:55.15 | youtah | which direction does your driveway face? |
| 19:55.27 | RyanE | ESE. |
| 19:55.34 | RyanE | with a side-enter garage. |
| 19:55.41 | youtah | Which side? |
| 19:55.45 | RyanE | north |
| 19:55.49 | youtah | Uhg |
| 19:55.55 | youtah | I had a directly facing north house in Sandy |
| 19:55.57 | youtah | NEVER AGAIN |
| 19:56.07 | youtah | Unless I am getting a heated driveway |
| 19:56.24 | RyanE | Yeah, I get an ice rink during winters. |
| 19:56.46 | Jayce^ | yup, north facing.. that sucks, but I minimized my front yard for a reason :) |
| 19:56.46 | RyanE | ironically, because I have coils in that section, so it's insulated, and since I dont' heat them up, it freezes solid way better than the uninsualted part. |
| 19:56.48 | youtah | we had two windows with peaks over the garage |
| 19:57.00 | youtah | so they didn't have a rain gutter in between to catch melting snow |
| 19:57.10 | youtah | so we had 1~4" ice at the bottom |
| 19:57.12 | RyanE | heh |
| 19:57.21 | youtah | I went through about 400lbs of ice melt per season |
| 19:58.08 | shalkie | youtah: Missed ya at OpenWest. |
| 19:58.13 | youtah | :( |
| 19:58.30 | youtah | Wish I could have made it, it would have been fun, and I would have really enjoyed it too shalkie |
| 19:59.19 | shalkie | 's okay. I saw you having fun iwth a new 'bru. :) |
| 19:59.26 | shalkie | s/iwth/with |
| 19:59.42 | Jayce^ | yeah, it's been a year, he needed a new one |
| 19:59.49 | spangborn | Bahaha |
| 19:59.55 | fozzmoo | youtah: I missed you at OpenWest too. |
| 19:59.58 | spangborn | I'm surprised it wasn't a Tundra. |
| 20:00.01 | fozzmoo | youtah: (But I wasn't there.) |
| 20:00.05 | TodPunk | I didn't miss him at openwest! |
| 20:00.26 | TodPunk | I did miss fozzmoo though |
| 20:00.34 | TodPunk | I wonder if any of the talks were actually recorded |
| 20:00.42 | TodPunk | I believe attempts were made |
| 20:00.54 | youtah | See |
| 20:01.01 | youtah | spangborn and Jayce^ understand me |
| 20:01.07 | shalkie | Yes, several of the talks were recorded. Though we started on day 2 this year. |
| 20:01.32 | TodPunk | Then my first two definitely weren't recorded =cP |
| 20:01.34 | fozzmoo | I showed up late Thursday afternoon and visited with Victor for a bit. I told him about how we did the A/V at YAPC::NA in Orlando and how we could adopt the workflow at next year's Openwest. |
| 20:01.36 | youtah | why weren't you there fozzmoo? |
| 20:01.51 | TodPunk | scheduling conflicts, I believe |
| 20:02.01 | fozzmoo | We were able to have all the talks up on YouTube within 24 hours. |
| 20:02.03 | youtah | spangborn btw, I freaking LOVED that Tundra. OMG |
| 20:02.31 | fozzmoo | Versus last year, when it took me about 8 weeks to get all the talks rendered and up to YouTube for Openwest. |
| 20:03.07 | youtah | what talks did TodPunk give? |
| 20:03.52 | youtah | Web Scalability again? Uhg |
| 20:03.59 | youtah | I've heard that like ten million times |
| 20:04.03 | youtah | jk, ;) |
| 20:04.20 | TodPunk | Then why aint you no good at it, Carl? |
| 20:04.41 | shalkie | Punk 101: How to be a Punk; Punk 202: Moving from Punk Theory to Practical Application |
| 20:04.58 | youtah | lol |
| 20:05.51 | youtah | Jayce^ so Chaz gave a "how to deal with Introverts?" talk? LOL awesome |
| 20:06.02 | Jayce^ | chaz rocks |
| 20:06.03 | youtah | he's not at BH anymore, correct? |
| 20:06.19 | youtah | I miss working with Chaz |
| 20:06.23 | Jayce^ | pretty sure he is |
| 20:06.45 | youtah | I thought he left |
| 20:06.52 | youtah | I know Greyson did |
| 20:07.10 | Jayce^ | yeah, grey grey is gone |
| 20:07.25 | youtah | I wonder who it is that I am getting mixed up |
| 20:07.50 | youtah | I know gerbiloff is no longer with BH |
| 20:08.33 | youtah | Go throw something a Manderson for me too, will ya? |
| 20:09.02 | Jayce^ | yeah, gerbil and mattm are gone |
| 20:09.04 | Jayce^ | same day |
| 20:09.15 | youtah | ah |
| 20:10.23 | Jayce^ | he says he hates you and that I should punch you in the face for him |
| 20:10.34 | youtah | LOL |
| 20:10.35 | Jayce^ | anybody want to buy the rights for punching youtah in the face? |
| 20:10.49 | youtah | I could literally HEAR him saying that |
| 20:11.57 | shalkie | Does that mean you are in the building? |
| 20:12.04 | youtah | nope |
| 20:12.16 | Jayce^ | "The IM is coming from the same building!!!" |
| 20:13.27 | youtah | Unix, I know this.... |
| 20:14.32 | youtah | sounds like a job for a gui interface in visual basic |
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| 20:39.38 | RyanE | Jayce^: I think that reference is too old for most in here nowadays...:) |
| 20:41.26 | Jayce^ | then get off my IRC lawn |
| 20:52.04 | jima | RyanE: nah |
| 20:52.43 | jima | although in retrospect i'm not sure how a call would come from inside the house unless you have two lines |
| 20:54.33 | shalkie | They hijacked the fax line |
| 21:00.05 | jima | shalkie: you just dated yourself. |
| 21:00.26 | Jayce^ | guess that's not illegal anymore |
| 21:00.27 | jima | i mean, granted, i had two lines at home for years, but not for freaking _fax_ |
| 21:08.23 | RyanE | There used to be 'dialback' numbers, which would ring back whatever number you called from. You could call the dialback, wait for it to start ringing, then pick it up at the same time as someone else, then you would be talking from 'inside the house'. |
| 21:08.29 | RyanE | not plausible, but whatevs. |
| 21:09.44 | jima | ani numbers? |
| 21:10.08 | jima | i don't think those 'ghost stories' were quite that involved. ;-) |
| 21:10.17 | RyanE | yeah, it was *fiction*... :) |
| 21:10.29 | RyanE | but no, a dial-back isn't necessarily ani |
| 21:10.38 | RyanE | it would *use* ANI, but then call back the number. |
| 21:11.08 | jima | enh. what do you take me for? a 2600 member? |
| 21:11.14 | RyanE | heh |
| 21:11.19 | RyanE | no, a Fed. :) |
| 21:11.32 | jima | i met my wife at a 2600 meeting, actually. |
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| 21:16.57 | levi | No need to dialback, just bring a box that'll generate the ring signal and plug it in. |
| 21:17.17 | RyanE | valid point. |
| 21:17.29 | RyanE | but then you need to eliminate dial tone. |
| 21:17.35 | TodPunk | This channel is not really all that young |
| 21:17.39 | RyanE | which you can do with a hook/unhook |
| 21:17.44 | RyanE | until it times out |
| 21:17.50 | TodPunk | the young angst stays away, thankfully |
| 21:18.01 | levi | If you're an evil stalker person, you probably cut the line outside first. |
| 21:18.35 | RyanE | if you cut the line, you couldn't talk to the other phone... unless your 'ringer' also had a power supply. :) |
| 21:18.47 | RyanE | ah, it's getting too complicated. Just smash the door and kill 'em already. |
| 21:19.04 | jima | levi: there's nothing to prove "the call was coming from inside the house" with a locally-generated ring. |
| 21:19.21 | TodPunk | jima: yes there is |
| 21:19.22 | TodPunk | narration |
| 21:19.40 | jima | yes, but the 911 operator or whatever was the one telling them that |
| 21:19.51 | TodPunk | yes |
| 21:19.58 | TodPunk | because they were the narrator at that moment |
| 21:20.06 | jima | ... |
| 21:20.21 | TodPunk | #truth |
| 21:20.26 | shalkie | There was no proof that they were _actual_ the 911 Operator |
| 21:20.32 | jima | if by "narrator" you mean "person making stuff up with no evidence," sure. |
| 21:20.38 | jima | shalkie: crossed my mind. valid. |
| 21:20.40 | TodPunk | yes |
| 21:20.57 | levi | RyanE: I think you need a power supply to create a ring signal in any case. |
| 21:21.05 | RyanE | https://xkcd.com/742/ |
| 21:21.09 | jima | RyanE: self-powered phones aren't unheard-of, but they aren't too common. |
| 21:21.33 | jima | RyanE: as usual, "there's an xkcd for that" |
| 21:21.37 | TodPunk | My son is currently wearing one of those tshirts from OpenWest with that on it |
| 21:21.38 | RyanE | yep |
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| 21:36.06 | d3c4f | I have a question for all everyone. While OpenWest is still fresh on your minds; What did you like best about the HackCenter, and what did you screw up? |
| 21:36.15 | d3c4f | *all yall' |
| 21:37.31 | programmerq | my screwup? I didn't volunteer to help this year. |
| 21:38.10 | eightyeight | initially, i was bothered that i had to get CTF points, before i could solder the badge |
| 21:38.20 | d3c4f | what did WE (HackCenter) screw up** (sorry for the fat finger) |
| 21:38.22 | eightyeight | however, when i saw the entry bar was exceptionally low, i was less bothered |
| 21:38.23 | TodPunk | I felt a lot of the CTFs were just guesswork for a large portion of their answers, but that may be appealing to others. I enjoyed lockpicking, and wish I "got it" more, but didn't want to tie up the boxes. I probably should have gone more for the robot nonsense, but didn't make the time. |
| 21:38.32 | programmerq | d3c4f: :p |
| 21:39.52 | TodPunk | I did all the pcaps, for instance, and the IRC chat password one was good, no guesswork involved. |
| 21:40.02 | TodPunk | Simply logic your way through |
| 21:40.08 | eightyeight | generally, i don't like CTF challenges, because it diverges attention from the presentations to winning points |
| 21:40.26 | eightyeight | which, as a presenter, offends me, as i've put a great deal of time into preparation |
| 21:40.51 | eightyeight | now, if the challenges are only available "off-hours" of the conference, then it doesn't bug me |
| 21:40.55 | eightyeight | to each their own |
| 21:41.07 | eightyeight | IE: people solving challenges while you're presenting |
| 21:41.34 | eightyeight | this seems to be a bigger problem at saintcon than openwest, however |
| 21:42.03 | TodPunk | d3c4f: Who to go to for help was less apparent than in the past. Like soldering peeps seemed a little confused as to how to learn to solder. I helped my companions, but I don't think others knew they could go to the desk for help |
| 21:42.31 | TodPunk | eightyeight: there's a lot of people that don't actually go for the presentations for the whole time |
| 21:43.40 | eightyeight | i guess i'm bothered when they're sitting in the room of my presentation, and solving challenges instead of listening |
| 21:43.44 | TodPunk | Overall I still think really highly of the hack center this year. It had a lot more to offer than my previous interactions |
| 21:43.47 | eightyeight | if they're not there, but in a separate room, meh |
| 21:44.00 | eightyeight | i really liked the hack center at openwest |
| 21:44.04 | eightyeight | this year |
| 21:44.13 | eightyeight | gets back to on-topic |
| 21:44.33 | eightyeight | i liked the locksport, CTF, and soldering stations |
| 21:45.24 | eightyeight | in fact, the venue was a good fit for that specifically (space that is) |
| 21:45.28 | TodPunk | wants one of those soldering setups instead of his cheap crappy one at home |
| 21:45.44 | eightyeight | although, the rooms in the exhibit hall were not great. |
| 21:45.47 | TodPunk | I'll just need to have a need for soldering to get it |
| 21:45.50 | eightyeight | too much background noise |
| 21:46.39 | levi | I'm going to have to go next year just to sit in eightyeight's presentation and stare at my laptop the whole time. :P |
| 21:46.48 | eightyeight | you would. :) |
| 21:47.00 | TodPunk | oh come now, levi, you could offend eightyeight with much much less effort |
| 21:47.24 | eightyeight | i did mention a button of mine you can push that drives me nuts in my last presentation. :) |
| 21:47.39 | levi | Sure, but I'm sure he'd have something interesting to say too. |
| 21:47.46 | eightyeight | which mike lovell appropriately took advantage of in his presentation about ceph |
| 21:48.28 | d3c4f | TodPunk, I did have staff signs (like the zone signs that were up the last 2 days), but I didn't get them up. We should have made some signs to help people know where to go. Definitely on the list for next year |
| 21:48.39 | eightyeight | (someone at bluehost needs to poke him, and get him in here) |
| 21:50.12 | Jayce^ | he's been poked about it many times |
| 21:50.29 | d3c4f | I definitely think the cross-noise was an annoyance. I'm not sure what can be done next year to help with that, but I am sure we will be exploring some options |
| 21:51.34 | eightyeight | Jayce^: he mentioned he was in #ceph, but i don't see him there (assuming some variant of `mlovell') |
| 21:52.07 | d3c4f | I would also like to get some displays up that explain a little better how the flow works. It was a little chaotic this year |
| 21:52.30 | d3c4f | ^hackCenter wise at least |
| 21:52.50 | programmerq | yeah, signs would have been good. maybe some gifs on displays showing some solder basics |
| 21:52.54 | TodPunk | I was fine with all the exhibit hall talks I gave or received, so long as the microphone worked =cP |
| 21:53.17 | TodPunk | This reminds me |
| 21:53.21 | eightyeight | a couple times, some loud speaker whitenoise static appeared for 5-10s |
| 21:53.34 | eightyeight | the mic worked for me both times |
| 21:54.05 | TodPunk | mindjuju: I may have accidentally walked off with a display-port to hdmi dongle (I had run back to the speaker lounge to get it and was going to return it there). I need to get that to you somehow. |
| 21:54.09 | d3c4f | I think the white noise was a problem with not turning off the amp before changing batteries in the mics. Though I am unsure if that was actually the case |
| 21:54.32 | eightyeight | happened once during the pgp keysigning party, and another time when i was presenting |
| 21:54.40 | d3c4f | TodPunk: hit up mindjuju, he's usually at the BRC in Orem |
| 21:54.47 | eightyeight | (for myself) |
| 21:55.02 | TodPunk | Yeah, which is an issue since I moved to Lehi |
| 21:55.20 | TodPunk | I'll just have to remember next time I'm down there or something |
| 21:55.20 | unum | I forgot to mic up |
| 21:55.25 | levi | What kind of solder stations were they? |
| 21:55.49 | d3c4f | Weller WES51 |
| 21:55.55 | d3c4f | They run about $90, iirc |
| 21:56.12 | d3c4f | TestingTesting123 |
| 21:56.16 | eightyeight | yeah. they were nice. much better than my cheap analog soldering iron |
| 21:56.17 | levi | Nice, we have one of those at work. |
| 21:56.18 | d3c4f | https://amzn.com/B000BRC2XU |
| 21:56.35 | d3c4f | They also have the digital display guys for about $15 more (wes51d) |
| 21:56.52 | levi | We actually might have the digital version. |
| 21:57.02 | d3c4f | remember to buy good solder and good solder braid (if you use it) |
| 21:57.09 | d3c4f | that will make a HUGE difference |
| 21:57.28 | levi | We seem to have acquired a much fancier iron at some point, too, along with a hot air rework station. |
| 21:57.42 | TodPunk | has that on his list of things to do with all the time he doesn't have at all |
| 21:58.03 | d3c4f | too many projects :( I know that feeling |
| 21:58.13 | levi | I don't often have a reason to use any of the soldering stuff at work, though. |
| 21:58.32 | TodPunk | If I can get PhoneJanitor finished and running I can probably get down to one job and do more of these things |
| 21:58.33 | eightyeight | soldering braid? pfft! if desoldering without braid was good enough for your grand pappy, it's good enough for you! |
| 21:58.43 | TodPunk | My goal is about a year |
| 21:58.46 | d3c4f | hehe |
| 21:58.57 | d3c4f | PhoneJanitor? |
| 21:59.17 | TodPunk | My digital receptionist service |
| 21:59.20 | eightyeight | has spent all too much time desoldering with a pry tool and the iron |
| 21:59.33 | TodPunk | Like Google Voice, but actively developed and more flexible |
| 22:00.18 | TodPunk | I'm in the middle of rewriting it, since my cofounder decided he's not an enterpreneur at all and left me with his artisinal APL-style javascript and JavaEE backend -_- |
| 22:00.38 | levi | I've got a Weller 921ZX at home, but it's a discontinued model with no tips being manufactured anymore. |
| 22:01.02 | TodPunk | But we've got some happy customers, have had them for about a year, and it seems like I could make a living off of it pretty easy if I got the features I want out of it |
| 22:01.09 | TodPunk | *coughMMScough* |
| 22:01.50 | d3c4f | https://www.twilio.com/mms ? |
| 22:02.15 | TodPunk | We're switching to twilio as our provider with the rewrite, yeah |
| 22:02.36 | TodPunk | They were expensive as hell before, so I didn't want to pay for that initially |
| 22:04.16 | d3c4f | <3 twilio & mailgun |
| 22:04.30 | d3c4f | but yeah, twilio can be pricy |
| 22:05.31 | TodPunk | Mailgun seems nice, I haven't tried that |
| 22:05.41 | TodPunk | I'd hope they aren't caught by spam so much |
| 22:06.10 | TodPunk | but the rackspace addendum doesn't give me assurance that this is the case |
| 22:06.47 | TodPunk | probably an acquired company, though |
| 22:06.51 | TodPunk | so there's much hope |
| 22:09.07 | youtah | RNC is already exploding |
| 22:09.10 | youtah | https://www.facebook.com/NPR/videos/vb.10643211755/10154595371941756/?type=2&theater¬if_t=live_video¬if_id=1468780482379466 |
| 22:11.03 | youtah | It's interesting to hear the process |
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| 22:17.36 | jfindlay | d3c4f: what kind of solder and braid is 'good'? |
| 22:18.25 | d3c4f | Chemtronics stuff is really nice |
| 22:18.37 | d3c4f | https://amzn.com/B0019V5MAC |
| 22:19.31 | youtah | wtf is team valor? |
| 22:19.43 | d3c4f | https://amzn.com/B00068IJPO |
| 22:20.00 | d3c4f | ^Kester 60/40 Rosin Core is a really good solder |
| 22:20.21 | d3c4f | just make sure to get the diameter you would like |
| 22:20.52 | levi | youtah: Red Pokemon Go team. |
| 22:21.04 | jfindlay | TodPunk: what's your url? |
| 22:21.21 | youtah | someone spray painted "team valor" over a sign |
| 22:22.45 | levi | youtah: Where? |
| 22:22.52 | youtah | it's on reddit |
| 22:23.12 | youtah | https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/4tg5fk/could_we_not/ |
| 22:23.29 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/jHxOfHl |
| 22:23.31 | levi | Oh, yeah. There have been a few cases of those for the past few days. |
| 22:24.16 | levi | Considering the number of players, not that many cases of vandalism. |
| 22:26.00 | levi | youtah: The other day, there was some spray paint over some park info sign that showed up on reddit, and a bunch of players organized a cleanup of it a day or two later. |
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| 22:29.54 | TodPunk | jfindlay: for Phone Janitor? https://phonejanitor.com |
| 22:31.25 | jfindlay | TodPunk: so it's like a spam filter for your phone? |
| 22:31.55 | TodPunk | For a phone number you host with us, yes |
| 22:31.55 | jfindlay | d3c4f: thanks |
| 22:32.01 | shalkie | For everyone that went to OpenWest and though the WiFi Sucked I have good news! RedSky is holding their conference there on the 20th and, I kid you not, have a presentation from HPE Aruba titled: "Predict Wifi Connectivity Issues Before They Happen" |
| 22:32.22 | shalkie | http://goredsky-2124779.hs-sites.com/2016-red-sky-security-con-schedule-sessions |
| 22:32.36 | programmerq | that'll be interesting |
| 22:33.18 | jfindlay | lol |
| 22:34.39 | TodPunk | jfindlay: my wife and I use it for our home line replacement |
| 22:35.03 | jfindlay | I always plan on intarwebz connectivity being unpredictable and bad at conferences and have never been disappointed once I accepted that property of the universe |
| 22:35.05 | TodPunk | which is nice because then we can give it to the grocery store and stuff and we never have to hear from them ever |
| 22:35.16 | TodPunk | ~jfindlay++ |
| 22:35.33 | TodPunk | seriously, I expected it to be slow and problem filled, and I thought it was great comparatively |
| 22:36.15 | jfindlay | TodPunk: that would be nice, but I usually either give a fake number or refuse to answer |
| 22:36.44 | TodPunk | that's cool, we don't plan on being a one-size-fits all service =c) |
| 22:36.56 | levi | So, ARM Holdings is being acquired. |
| 22:36.58 | TodPunk | oddly our most popular customer right now is realtors |
| 22:37.42 | jfindlay | TodPunk: I may consider something like that someday. It would be interesting to 'track the trackers' to some extent |
| 22:38.28 | jfindlay | levi: is that some kind of wrestling metaphor? |
| 22:38.38 | TodPunk | jfindlay: I'm going to enjoy using it for sharing a number amongst several cell phones in the future, personally. That's down the road, but it will be perfect for managing my teens. |
| 22:39.05 | TodPunk | levi: I imagine this will mean them getting stingy with licensing and stuff |
| 22:39.05 | levi | jfindlay: No, ARM Holdings is the company that designs the ARM CPUs inside phones, tablets, etc. |
| 22:39.50 | levi | A "fabless semiconductor" company. |
| 22:40.15 | levi | And probably the most famous British tech company today. |
| 22:41.12 | levi | Followed perhaps by Imagination Technologies, which is a similar silicon IP company. |
| 22:41.46 | levi | They license PowerVR and (more recently) MIPS processors. |
| 22:42.55 | levi | TodPunk: Honestly I don't know what the ARM acquisition will mean; hopefully SoftBank won't mismanage it. |
| 22:44.40 | RyanE | levi: Cringely had an interesting speculation on the ARM purchase: http://www.cringely.com/2016/07/18/softbank-paying-32-billion-arm-holdings/ |
| 22:44.50 | RyanE | don't know that he's right, but it's interesting to think. |
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| 22:57.58 | levi | Hmm, sounds plausible. |
| 22:59.26 | levi | Although I don't think it's anywhere near a sure thing. |
| 23:00.29 | levi | ARM has a lot of momentum, but I don't think a lot of stuff targeting ARM now is strongly tied to the ARM platform; it's just at a sweet spot right now. |
| 23:30.27 | RyanE | Yeah, he's saying 'they'll do D, E, F', while they'd have to do A, B, and C first. |
| 23:37.57 | youtah | just wait until you try the LEG platform |