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| 16:11.54 | youtah | Morning all |
| 16:12.05 | youtah | does anyone know of any Confluence like wiki's that are free? |
| 16:12.33 | youtah | There are Sooooooooooooo many wikis |
| 16:13.12 | eightyeight | i really like dokuwiki |
| 16:13.17 | TodPunk | just depends on what you want to do with it, really |
| 16:13.31 | TodPunk | if your requirement is "I need a wiki" well... pick one and try it? |
| 16:13.33 | eightyeight | dunno if it's `confluence like' though |
| 16:13.42 | youtah | Document stuff |
| 16:13.51 | youtah | in a clean and orderly fashion |
| 16:13.53 | eightyeight | dokuwiki doesn't require a backend db |
| 16:13.53 | spangborn | Confluence |
| 16:13.56 | spangborn | It's pretty good |
| 16:13.56 | TodPunk | I had a moinmoin wiki for a while, but now we just use Bitbucket's wiki on our tools repo |
| 16:14.02 | eightyeight | it's clean and lightweight |
| 16:14.14 | youtah | Confluence is really quite amazing truth be told |
| 16:14.22 | eightyeight | well supported, actively developed, Free Software, and extensible and modular |
| 16:14.22 | youtah | googles dokuwiki |
| 16:16.12 | youtah | gollum looks promising too |
| 16:17.53 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 16:17.57 | spangborn | ~karma brave |
| 16:17.57 | infobot | brave has karma of 27 |
| 16:17.59 | spangborn | Yesssss |
| 16:18.26 | TodPunk | ~brave-- |
| 16:18.45 | spangborn | ~confluence++ |
| 16:19.05 | TodPunk | ~C#++ |
| 16:19.10 | TodPunk | ~karma C# |
| 16:19.10 | infobot | c# has neutral karma |
| 16:19.15 | TodPunk | ~karma c# |
| 16:19.15 | infobot | c# has neutral karma |
| 16:19.25 | TodPunk | ~c#++ |
| 16:19.27 | TodPunk | ~karma c# |
| 16:19.27 | infobot | c# has karma of 1 |
| 16:19.32 | TodPunk | interesting |
| 16:22.52 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 16:23.02 | TodPunk | ~brave-- |
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| 16:30.59 | unum | I just want to say, if any of you are planning on blowing up a federal building. DON'T!!!!!!!! |
| 16:31.17 | unum | Don't shoot any FBI agents either. That's also a very bad thing to do. |
| 16:31.29 | spangborn | Hai NSA |
| 16:31.36 | spangborn | I don't know that unum guy. |
| 16:33.15 | unum | A Utah resident was just arraign for trying to blow up a federal building in Arizona |
| 16:33.33 | spangborn | Haha, I'm aware of that. |
| 16:33.38 | spangborn | I was just making a funny |
| 16:33.49 | unum | So I'm just a little worried that some people around here may be confused about appropriate ways to voice your concerns about politics |
| 16:34.11 | unum | voting=good |
| 16:34.25 | unum | attending a cacaus meeting=good |
| 16:34.33 | unum | voicing your opinion on irc=OK |
| 16:34.38 | unum | blowing things up=bad |
| 16:34.44 | unum | just a little primer |
| 16:36.09 | spangborn | What if they're fireworks? |
| 16:36.16 | spangborn | As long as they're not thrown at cyclists, that's good |
| 16:36.51 | unum | cyclist, federal officials, pets, family members, etc |
| 16:39.26 | RyanE | just started using a rear-view mirror while biking. hard to get used to. |
| 16:44.09 | spangborn | https://storify.com/spangborn/conversation-with-bwjones |
| 16:44.25 | spangborn | I tried one of the glasses mounted ones and stopped using it |
| 16:52.19 | RyanE | I've got a cheap one that attaches to the helmet. |
| 16:52.42 | RyanE | It's pretty small. Probably too small. |
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| 17:11.49 | manithree | spangborn: I'm white and I would never disagree with a cop during a traffic stop. |
| 17:13.16 | RyanE | If you want to take a ticket to court, the best thing you can do is make yourself as easy to forget as possible... That means, don't argue. |
| 17:13.53 | RyanE | not that I've ever protested a ticket (I *was* speeding every time) :) but that's what I've read. |
| 17:13.56 | spangborn | Well, that's obviously part of the problem |
| 17:14.08 | spangborn | Complying with incorrect orders shouldn't have to be something that happens |
| 17:14.13 | RyanE | true. |
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| 17:18.27 | manithree | spangborn: I'm not saying it's not worse for black people, but in the gun community (mostly, but not entirely OFWGs), the saying is "comply, and go to court" Nobody wants to get charge with contempt of cop. |
| 17:18.52 | spangborn | Yeah, and I'm saying that's absurd. |
| 17:19.14 | spangborn | Complying with everything someone with a badge says is ridiculous. |
| 17:19.17 | RyanE | people suck. Cops are no exeption, but with more 'authoritah!'. |
| 17:19.20 | manithree | It's a police state. |
| 17:19.23 | spangborn | Further reinforces their abuse of power. |
| 17:19.48 | manithree | And it's a minority of cops. You just never know with the one in front of you. |
| 17:20.18 | spangborn | I'd like a citation for "minority of cops" |
| 17:23.02 | manithree | No stats, but I know cops, and I've had and know online lots of people who have had interactions with cops who actually abide by the law. And there are people active in the firearms community who are cops that say that. |
| 17:23.11 | RyanE | I'd disagree that it's a 'police state', as that implies a lot of other things. |
| 17:23.43 | manithree | if it was prevalent, that's exactly what it is. |
| 17:23.51 | RyanE | but for some (mostly non-white people) in some places (more cities), it certainly is. |
| 17:24.21 | manithree | If you're getting your butt kicked illegally by a cop, that's what it is. |
| 17:24.46 | spangborn | The issue comes from when you're doing something perceived as illegal, you're likely to die. |
| 17:24.55 | spangborn | What happens when they do something illegal? Nothing. |
| 17:25.17 | spangborn | If you do something "perceived as a threat" you get shot. |
| 17:25.28 | spangborn | If they do something perceived as a threat, nothing. |
| 17:25.36 | spangborn | Cops are a protected class and it's quite a load of bullshit. |
| 17:26.08 | manithree | The BLM crowd hurts their own cause by choosing really poor causes, also. |
| 17:26.09 | RyanE | well, all of that I agree with, but saying it's a 'police state' is a matter of degrees. |
| 17:26.39 | spangborn | You're more likely to be shot and killed by a cop in the US than you are to be killed by anyone in the EU with a firearm. Anyone. |
| 17:26.46 | RyanE | I read that 'Bureau of Land Management. :) |
| 17:27.19 | spangborn | I'm sure you'd think it wasn't a "poor cause" if you weren't white. |
| 17:27.33 | spangborn | And hadn't experienced centuries of racism and oppression. |
| 17:27.39 | spangborn | *And had |
| 17:28.39 | manithree | The physical evidence doesn't support Mike Brown "cause." You try to steal a cop's gun and punch him in the face (play stupid games) and you get shot (win stupid prizes). |
| 17:29.48 | manithree | There are cases where the people really didn't do anything wrong that would make much better poster boys |
| 17:30.13 | programmerq | is this what is being discussed? https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4rmo35/graphic_video_shows_black_man_bleeding_after/ |
| 17:30.53 | spangborn | There have been three police shootings in three days |
| 17:30.55 | spangborn | That's one of them. |
| 17:31.26 | spangborn | http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article88000527.html |
| 17:32.58 | spangborn | Article on Castile and Alton Sterling, too: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36733673 |
| 17:33.12 | programmerq | this was a very close to home incident. http://fox13now.com/2014/11/06/new-footage-from-fatal-shooting-of-darrien-hunt-released-family-attorney-responds/ |
| 17:33.21 | programmerq | I hadn't seen those videos until just now. |
| 17:33.41 | spangborn | Ah, I hadn't seen the Darrien Hunt ones either. |
| 17:34.02 | programmerq | it's eerie since I've been to all those businesses several times. |
| 17:34.16 | programmerq | I've been in those exact spots with my kids |
| 17:34.37 | programmerq | my kids' preschool is right next to the SS police department. |
| 17:34.57 | spangborn | Ugh |
| 17:36.05 | programmerq | I still think about it every time I see a SS car |
| 17:36.39 | spangborn | I've had a few experiences with police departments here that have led me to distrust them. |
| 17:37.04 | spangborn | Or at the very least, be suspicious of them. |
| 17:41.09 | romanovic | I can't think that way. I've had a couple of family members who have had some very negative experiences with police in Utah, but far more often I've been impressed with their professionalism and behavior when they don't think people are looking |
| 17:41.44 | spangborn | There are definitely good officers. |
| 17:41.48 | romanovic | and I can't separate police out of the local population as "them." Too many neighbors, friends, coworkers have been police officers, or have one in their family |
| 17:41.49 | spangborn | And there are definitely bad eggs |
| 17:42.06 | spangborn | But if you blanket trust them, you're blanket trusting the bad eggs. |
| 17:42.28 | spangborn | But it is "them". |
| 17:42.43 | spangborn | Look at how they rally around their own, even when there are clear problems |
| 17:42.58 | spangborn | When was the last time you saw an officer speak out against another one for doing something wrong? |
| 17:43.13 | manithree | spangborn: That's what tends to make some of suspicious of all of "them" |
| 17:43.14 | spangborn | Every other industry and job in the world does that except for law enforcement. |
| 17:43.37 | spangborn | Hive mentality. |
| 17:44.16 | manithree | The blue wall of silence |
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| 17:45.07 | romanovic | I do blanket trust them, until an individual proves (s)he is no longer worthy of the trust |
| 17:45.58 | manithree | I blame the war on drugs. Cops think they're soldiers fighting a war. That tends to lead to an us v. them mentality on their side, also. |
| 17:46.29 | spangborn | It doesn't help that they're given military equipment either. |
| 17:46.39 | spangborn | Hard to trust an army rolling through your neighborhood. |
| 17:46.54 | spangborn | I saw Unified PD has an armored troop carrier last week. |
| 17:46.59 | spangborn | Completely unnecessary. |
| 17:47.24 | manithree | agreed |
| 17:47.34 | romanovic | probably not. they get these military surplus vehicles at a discount and buy them just because they can |
| 17:48.08 | spangborn | This was the kind of vehicle that could run over an IED and continue. |
| 17:48.27 | spangborn | Treating American cities like a war zone is ridiculous. |
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| 17:48.38 | romanovic | yeah, we had an MRAP rolling through our Herriman Days parade, maybe it was the same one you saw |
| 17:48.53 | spangborn | Wouldn't surprise me, I saw it headed from that way. |
| 17:49.04 | spangborn | And flaunting that in a parade too? Disgusting. |
| 17:49.24 | RyanE | gotta show those taxpayers where their money is going. :) |
| 17:49.25 | manithree | Didn't you feel safer seeing it covered in flags |
| 17:49.32 | manithree | ? |
| 17:49.48 | RyanE | heh |
| 17:50.08 | RyanE | I have mixed feelings watching the motorcycle cops do their parade routine. |
| 17:50.39 | spangborn | The funny thing is that you'd be seen as unpatriotic if you complained or boo'd that |
| 17:53.03 | unum | when I see the term police state I tend to think of like how in Russia if you run for president suddenly you end up in jail for breaking laws that nobody cared you were breaking before you ran for president |
| 17:53.13 | unum | but fortunately nothing like that would ever happen here ;) |
| 17:53.33 | RyanE | sort of the opposite. |
| 17:54.29 | unum | RyanE: actually no. If you look at why they FBI decline to prosecute it's because the judges would throw it out because there were so many other people who had done the same thing who hadn't been prosecuted |
| 17:54.40 | spangborn | The absurd thing too is how slanted the justice system is for the state. |
| 17:54.52 | spangborn | You get falsely accused of something, sent to jail. |
| 17:55.07 | RyanE | there have also been a lot of other people (who aren't Clintons) who *have* been prosecuted for it. |
| 17:55.10 | spangborn | You have to jump through all the hoops, while the system can just drag it out. |
| 17:55.21 | spangborn | I know, I've been there. |
| 17:55.21 | unum | RyanE: you mean like Colin Powel? |
| 17:55.43 | RyanE | I'd say anyone in the 'ruling class' won't get punished. Colin Powell included. |
| 17:55.49 | unum | it's completely different for high level government officials. Look up Plame vs Cheney if you want the actual court ruling on the matter |
| 17:55.50 | RyanE | anyone below a certain level, they get prosecuted. |
| 17:55.59 | unum | RyanE: true |
| 17:56.00 | manithree | Civil asset forfieture is exactly old-school soviet |
| 17:56.05 | RyanE | that's true. |
| 17:56.10 | unum | but when it comes to classified intel there's a reason for that |
| 17:56.27 | RyanE | eminent domain is *evil*. |
| 17:56.41 | unum | if I leaked a client's survey I'd be fired and prosecuted but if client publishes it, it's fine |
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| 20:20.22 | SunSparc | I would think that DNSSEC and SSHFP would be a lot more popular. Then again, I would think the same about IPv6. |
| 20:23.47 | SunSparc | ~sshfp++ |
| 20:23.55 | SunSparc | ~karma ipv6 |
| 20:23.55 | infobot | ipv6 has karma of 2 |
| 20:24.05 | SunSparc | ~IPv6++ |
| 20:24.11 | SunSparc | ~karma dnssec |
| 20:24.11 | infobot | dnssec has neutral karma |
| 20:24.20 | SunSparc | ~DNSSEC++ |
| 20:24.50 | SunSparc | ~karma dnssec |
| 20:24.50 | infobot | dnssec has neutral karma |
| 20:24.58 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 20:25.01 | spangborn | ~karma brave |
| 20:25.01 | infobot | brave has karma of 23 |
| 20:25.04 | SunSparc | ~dnssec++ |
| 20:25.17 | spangborn | ~IPv6-- |
| 20:26.11 | SunSparc | Funn, infobot will not let me increment karma of dnssec because dns is a command. |
| 20:27.02 | spangborn | ~dns |
| 20:27.28 | SunSparc | ~dns google.com |
| 20:27.42 | SunSparc | ~dnssec google.com |
| 20:27.58 | SunSparc | ~dns TodPunk |
| 20:28.03 | programmerq | ~dns ipv6.google.com |
| 20:28.07 | programmerq | ! |
| 20:28.07 | TodPunk | oh thank god |
| 20:28.26 | TodPunk | I've been in DNS for years, just barely got out, I was worried |
| 20:28.41 | SunSparc | ~dns Tod.Punk |
| 20:28.56 | eightyeight | ~dns rebecca.blackfriday |
| 20:30.28 | TodPunk | IPv6 is a problem because it's hard as hell to get up and running on. I've said this before, and I get flak every time, but until it can be done on most ISPs by plugging the blue cable into the blue hole, and you can buy a thing at Best Buy that has a setup wizard if you're an "enthusiast," it's way too hard |
| 20:30.50 | TodPunk | DNSSEC is mostly a momentum vs effort thing |
| 20:31.00 | TodPunk | and I haven't heard of SSHFP before now |
| 20:31.03 | eightyeight | dnssec is a nightmare |
| 20:31.22 | programmerq | my asus router has an ipv6 wizard |
| 20:31.36 | programmerq | but my isp doesn't support it yet |
| 20:31.43 | TodPunk | programmerq: and if your ISP supports it at all, you're lucky |
| 20:31.45 | programmerq | they are finally working on it |
| 20:31.45 | TodPunk | ah |
| 20:31.47 | TodPunk | there ya go |
| 20:32.07 | programmerq | and I told them to put me on the early testers list |
| 20:32.08 | SunSparc | eightyeight: I just setup DNSSEC for a domain and it was not terrible. |
| 20:32.16 | programmerq | and they were like "okay awesome" |
| 20:32.25 | SunSparc | Certainly more difficult than it could be. |
| 20:32.30 | eightyeight | dnssec is to dns that openstack is to storage |
| 20:32.46 | programmerq | but they've been more focused on their copper->fiber project. |
| 20:33.03 | TodPunk | My experience with ipv6 the one time I tried to get it going was that while my ISP supported it, there's a bunch of ephemeral nonsense to setting it up akin to pppoe or something similar. This was years ago, so hopefully it's become better |
| 20:33.08 | programmerq | but they finally seem to understand that it's getting harder to get ipv4 addresses, and ipv6 needs to happen. |
| 20:33.31 | programmerq | my isp will be setting up dhcp-pd |
| 20:33.37 | SunSparc | copper->fiber sounds like an alchemy project |
| 20:34.01 | programmerq | I'm so going to steal that joke. |
| 20:34.32 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:36.02 | spangborn | I noticed that my cell phone carrier supports IPv6 |
| 20:36.08 | programmerq | presumably, when they enable it, I'll just need to go into the ipv6 section and choose "native" and leave all the defaults: http://imgur.com/t0lAHwk |
| 20:36.13 | spangborn | My T-Mo phone randomly had an IPv6 address the other day |
| 20:37.26 | spangborn | Ah it does now too. http://i.imgur.com/fWEK5Ow.jpg |
| 21:01.32 | youtah_ | our gear supports IPv6 |
| 21:01.34 | youtah_ | :) |
| 21:01.41 | keldwud | do cell phone providers kill vpn? |
| 21:01.48 | spangborn | Nope. |
| 21:01.56 | spangborn | I use it all the time to SSH into my home server |
| 21:01.56 | youtah | not mine |
| 21:01.59 | youtah | ditto |
| 21:02.05 | keldwud | I've had a hell of a time getting vpn to work on my android over verizon 4G |
| 21:02.10 | keldwud | I can get it to work on wifi |
| 21:02.12 | youtah | I use Verizon |
| 21:02.13 | youtah | no problem |
| 21:02.14 | spangborn | I've got a RaspberryPi running SoftEther that I VPN into |
| 21:02.22 | keldwud | must be the client, then |
| 21:02.36 | spangborn | http://i.imgur.com/zTKpKqW.jpg |
| 21:02.48 | keldwud | VIA |
| 21:02.58 | keldwud | it's some weird proprietary crap |
| 21:03.24 | spangborn | My network at home is complicated. |
| 21:03.45 | spangborn | C-Link DSL Modem -> DD-WRT router -> Airport Extreme <--> DD-WRT bridge |
| 21:04.07 | spangborn | And then the rPi is connected to the DD-WRT box |
| 21:04.13 | spangborn | The first one, that is |
| 21:05.51 | youtah | it's nice having fiber optics to house |
| 21:05.57 | youtah | with a true gigabit router |
| 21:05.59 | youtah | :) |
| 21:07.23 | spangborn | So you're saying I should give you a Pi to connect to your network as a VPN box? |
| 21:07.41 | youtah | why do that when our router does it automagically? |
| 21:07.53 | youtah | :) |
| 21:07.56 | spangborn | OpenVPN? |
| 21:08.09 | spangborn | pls no |
| 21:08.47 | youtah | L2TP/IPSec, IPSec or PPTP |
| 21:08.54 | spangborn | Ah, not bad. |
| 21:08.58 | spangborn | What router do you have that's doing that? |
| 21:09.24 | youtah | http://luxul.com/abr-4400 |
| 21:09.29 | spangborn | My DD-WRT one would only do PPTP or OpenVPN, neither of which I wanted to mess with |
| 21:09.32 | spangborn | Ah, your own hardware haha |
| 21:09.49 | spangborn | I need to learn more about networking. |
| 21:10.00 | youtah | Yup |
| 21:10.01 | youtah | :) |
| 21:10.12 | youtah | I still need to learn more about Networking too |
| 21:10.16 | youtah | it's an endless pit |
| 21:10.45 | youtah | kind of like harleypig's soul |
| 21:10.59 | spangborn | I want to sandbox all of my IoT devices |
| 21:11.06 | spangborn | But I dunno where to start. |
| 21:11.14 | youtah | VLANs |
| 21:12.02 | youtah | I seperate my guest network with a VLAN |
| 21:12.07 | harleypig | I have no soul. |
| 21:12.10 | youtah | same with the "gaming" devices |
| 21:24.23 | spangborn | Speaking of routers, weeeeee. https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/751164750113837057 |
| 21:32.42 | youtah | yelp |
| 21:33.46 | youtah | https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/751127048555409408 |
| 21:35.18 | spangborn | My favorite Twitter account lately is @InternetOfShit |
| 21:37.14 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/pO1HrBf.gifv |
| 21:38.16 | youtah | Reminds me of the Protoss Carrier from StarCraft |
| 21:38.41 | spangborn | Almost bike ride time, wee |
| 21:56.39 | romanovic | spangborn: do you commute to work on your bike? or just recreational? |
| 21:57.00 | spangborn | romanovic: I'll usually commute home, just to avoid having to shower. I do both. |
| 21:57.21 | spangborn | I ride for fun usually on weekends, but I'll commute a few days a week. |
| 21:57.26 | romanovic | nice. |
| 21:57.27 | spangborn | I take the train into work, and then ride home |
| 21:58.43 | romanovic | I need to ride my bike to work again, just got it fixed and took it on a test ride yesterday |
| 21:59.02 | spangborn | What's the commute like? |
| 21:59.37 | romanovic | 16mi each way, so I only do it a couple of times per week when my bike is in working order |
| 22:00.05 | spangborn | Ah, that's about what I'm at. |
| 22:00.15 | spangborn | Depends on my route, but it's 13-15 |
| 22:00.31 | romanovic | but on the bright side, 70% of the trip is on paved multi-use trails like JRP, which is really nice. both scenic, and I get to skip the traffic lights. |
| 22:01.47 | romanovic | have to cross redwood road down around 14400 S, and that's the only time I cross paths with a lot of traffic |
| 22:03.41 | spangborn | JRP is alright if you've got good tires |
| 22:03.46 | spangborn | Otherwise it's flats galore |
| 22:03.56 | eightyeight | peter jackson is planning a 72-part silmarillion movie: http://www.eyeofthetiber.com/2014/10/07/peter-jackson-announces-plans-for-72-part-movie-series-of-the-silmarillion/ |
| 22:04.10 | spangborn | I've got race tires, so not a lot of flat protection |
| 22:04.39 | TodPunk | You know, there are limits to everyone. Jackson isn't even going to be alive long enough to film all that, let alone get a studio to approve even the first 5 |
| 22:05.09 | TodPunk | Oh thank god, it's just a poorly presented satire site |
| 22:05.11 | RyanE | I've been too chicken to ride into work, even though it's <20 miles, it's over the point of the mountain. |
| 22:05.22 | eightyeight | it's okay. he's purchasing the entire island of new zealand |
| 22:05.23 | romanovic | yeah. I ride a MTB that I've converted to a commuter bike, with slicker tires and panniers. Not as fast as a road bike, but my tires are excellent at preventing flats |
| 22:06.28 | romanovic | I put slime in my tires just in case, but I think all last year my tire was only punctured a single time on JRP, and was small enough that the slime took care of it |
| 22:07.02 | spangborn | Good commuter bike then :) |
| 22:07.19 | romanovic | RyanE: I'm curious to know what jordan river parkway looks going down past POTM? |
| 22:07.29 | romanovic | I've actually never gone south. I really should go explore |
| 22:07.30 | spangborn | It doesn't exist for a bit. |
| 22:07.42 | spangborn | It ends about 144th, you have to hop Redwood |
| 22:07.54 | spangborn | Then hop back on JRP near the cemetary |
| 22:08.04 | spangborn | I've ridden it down to Utah Lake. |
| 22:08.49 | romanovic | there's a farm road around 1300 W that goes south of 144th |
| 22:09.11 | spangborn | Yeah, you take that up to Redwood. |
| 22:09.25 | spangborn | They're supposed to connect all of JRP eventually, but I have no idea where it's supposed to run |
| 22:09.26 | romanovic | connects back up with JRP after half a mile or so. |
| 22:11.09 | romanovic | but I've only taken JRP from there to the subdivision just south, and come out to redwood road right near Porter Rockwell, then take Mt View Corridor if I'm going the long way home |
| 22:11.43 | romanovic | do any of those canal trails connect down to JRP in Utah county? |
| 22:12.36 | spangborn | I think they're supposed to eventually, I don't know if they do now |
| 22:12.44 | spangborn | I'm admittedly not as aware of those. |
| 22:17.19 | RyanE | I've only ridden it from close to the Lehi Trax station to the end of the golf course, basically. |
| 22:17.32 | RyanE | I ride the Murdock Canal trail quite a bit, and the Provo River Parkway trail. |
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| 22:18.56 | spangborn | It gets a bit rough further south |
| 22:18.58 | spangborn | But it's a fun ride |
| 22:19.13 | spangborn | The last time I went to go do it, the trail was flooded out under one of the bridges |
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| 22:56.19 | keldwud | guess what I just realized |
| 22:56.26 | keldwud | drive-in theater has been open for over a month now! |
| 22:56.38 | keldwud | <3 me some drive-in |
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| 23:37.13 | unum | we went two weeks ago |
