| 00:27.57 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 00:28.17 | TodPunk | ~karma ie |
| 00:28.17 | infobot | ie has karma of -777 |
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| 01:38.42 | unum | eightyeight: what was that light weight display manager you recommend over light dm |
| 02:21.47 | eightyeight | unum: slim |
| 02:22.23 | eightyeight | lightdm is garbage. it chews memory much worse than gdm or kdm |
| 02:22.52 | programmerq | I like slim too, but it seems like distro maintainers break it more often than more popular DMs |
| 03:26.48 | eightyeight | I haven't seen any slim breakage personally. I've probably been using it for 3-4 years |
| 03:39.35 | klys_ | ok |
| 03:40.40 | klys_ | I am working on a window manager. the source code is at http://45.55.20.239/wm-0.11.tar.gz |
| 03:41.34 | klys_ | it is supposed to be used in conjunction with xterm &, iceweasel &, and feh -Z -. random.jpeg & |
| 03:42.08 | klys_ | presently it is set to operate at 1024x768 resolution on display :20 |
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| 04:10.23 | TodPunk | free "Orchestrating Docker" ebook with the packt free learning thing today |
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| 07:40.49 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 07:40.49 | infobot | Pedro offers you his protection. |
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| 13:00.08 | eightyeight | ~karma ie |
| 13:00.09 | infobot | ie has karma of -777 |
| 13:00.31 | eightyeight | ~karma brave |
| 13:00.31 | infobot | brave has karma of 30 |
| 13:00.43 | eightyeight | ~karma firefox |
| 13:00.43 | infobot | firefox has karma of 7 |
| 13:00.54 | eightyeight | ~karma chrome |
| 13:00.54 | infobot | chrome has karma of 4 |
| 13:01.04 | eightyeight | ~karma opera |
| 13:01.04 | infobot | opera has neutral karma |
| 13:01.14 | eightyeight | ~karma edge |
| 13:01.14 | infobot | edge has karma of 1 |
| 13:05.47 | eightyeight | ~karma safari |
| 13:05.47 | infobot | safari has karma of 12 |
| 13:05.58 | eightyeight | ~safari-- |
| 13:25.12 | TodPunk | ~chrome++ |
| 13:33.53 | unum | I wish xterm would do like the windows version of putty where you can lock the columns. So whon you maximize the screen it increases the fontsize rather than the number of columns |
| 13:34.01 | unum | the linux version of putty won't do it either |
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| 14:49.01 | manithree | unum: There's a linux version of putty?!? |
| 14:49.12 | manithree | Eww |
| 14:52.19 | TodPunk | ~firefox-- |
| 14:52.23 | TodPunk | also |
| 14:52.27 | TodPunk | ~edge++ |
| 14:52.51 | TodPunk | unum: I have three words of damning explanation for you |
| 14:52.53 | TodPunk | fonts in linux |
| 14:59.11 | programmerq | yeah, I've played with the linux version of putty while writing instructions for windows folks |
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| 15:21.45 | unum | :( |
| 15:22.02 | unum | now can anyone tell me why most of my WOL packets seem to go AWOL |
| 15:23.57 | manithree | Every time I have to help a windows user tunnel a port or set up a socks proxy, I give them my OpenSSH command line, and several hours, and multiple questions later they get it to work in putty. Sometimes. |
| 15:28.02 | klys_ | ~wol |
| 15:28.03 | infobot | wol is probably wake-on-lan |
| 15:28.32 | eightyeight | ~edge-- |
| 15:28.38 | eightyeight | ~firefox++ |
| 15:28.59 | klys_ | ~karma mozilla |
| 15:29.00 | infobot | mozilla has neutral karma |
| 15:29.10 | eightyeight | ~ie-- |
| 15:29.16 | eightyeight | ~brave++ |
| 15:29.20 | eightyeight | ~opera-- |
| 15:29.26 | eightyeight | ~chrome-- |
| 15:29.30 | eightyeight | ~chromium++ |
| 15:29.42 | klys_ | ~karma iceweasel |
| 15:29.42 | infobot | iceweasel has karma of 1 |
| 15:30.40 | eightyeight | iceweasel is no more |
| 15:31.11 | klys_ | I still use it |
| 15:31.51 | eightyeight | plan on upgrading your debian? |
| 15:32.10 | klys_ | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free |
| 15:32.53 | eightyeight | iceweasel/unstable,now 45.2.0esr-1 all [installed] |
| 15:32.55 | eightyeight | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.11 | eightyeight | firefox/unstable 47.0.1-1 amd64 |
| 15:33.12 | eightyeight | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.52 | klys_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Feb 14 05:16 /usr/bin/iceweasel -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel |
| 15:33.55 | klys_ | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 134392 Feb 14 05:16 /usr/lib/iceweasel/iceweasel |
| 15:34.18 | klys_ | /usr/lib/iceweasel/iceweasel: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object |
| 15:35.13 | klys_ | /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: symbolic link to iceweasel |
| 15:35.31 | eightyeight | interesting i still had the `iceweasel' package installed, but launching it gives me firefox |
| 15:36.03 | klys_ | ii iceweasel 44.0.2-1 i386 Web browser based on Firefox |
| 15:36.04 | eightyeight | regardless, debian got the go-ahead to use the trademarked logo and ship firefox |
| 15:36.34 | klys_ | do you think that is a good thing? |
| 15:36.44 | eightyeight | yeah. i think you need to update |
| 15:36.49 | eightyeight | https://packages.debian.org/sid/iceweasel |
| 15:37.11 | klys_ | mine usually works up to 128 tabs |
| 15:37.38 | klys_ | whether I'm using iceweasel/gnu/linux or firefox/ms/win32 |
| 15:37.47 | klys_ | it's all the same to me |
| 15:38.36 | eightyeight | looks like firefox isn't in testing though |
| 15:38.54 | eightyeight | so, stretch my still ship with iceweasel, even though it's labeled as a transitional package |
| 15:39.49 | klys_ | it could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on the direction mozilla takes |
| 15:40.18 | eightyeight | i haven't been excited with recent developments in firefox |
| 15:40.24 | eightyeight | Hello and Pocket specifically |
| 15:40.38 | eightyeight | i thought debian would strip them, seeing as though they're non-free software |
| 15:41.33 | eightyeight | instead, i'm looking forward to brave |
| 15:41.55 | klys_ | https://news.slashdot.org/story/15/01/27/2217258/youtube-ditches-flash-for-html5-video-by-default |
| 15:42.01 | klys_ | that was january |
| 15:42.19 | eightyeight | i haven't had flash installed for ... a long time. 4 years maybe? 5? |
| 15:43.27 | klys_ | so yeah, depending on the direction mozilla takes, because debian will follow that direction, now that firefox is the default. remember seamonkey? |
| 15:44.14 | eightyeight | yeah. ran iceape for a loooong time |
| 15:44.18 | klys_ | :) |
| 15:44.23 | eightyeight | i was sad when debian pulled that from the repos |
| 15:44.57 | klys_ | I still don't get the allure of the new Rust programming language that mozilla was writing a new browser in |
| 15:45.09 | eightyeight | Servo? |
| 15:45.13 | klys_ | prolly |
| 15:45.15 | eightyeight | i'm sort of looking forward to that also |
| 15:45.25 | eightyeight | i've seen some impressive results on mobile devices |
| 15:45.41 | klys_ | I want to see more gnome integration, I guess |
| 15:45.48 | eightyeight | meh |
| 15:45.58 | eightyeight | dropped gnome like a hot potato when 3.0 released |
| 15:46.25 | eightyeight | after discovering awesome, widgets, UI, scrollbars, menus, etc. just get in the way |
| 15:52.08 | levi | Rust is the most interesting thing to happen in systems programming languages in a long time. |
| 15:52.44 | klys_ | I just want it to start acting like C. It doesn't have std.signals implemented yet. |
| 15:53.02 | levi | What do you mean by "acting like C"? |
| 15:53.11 | klys_ | SIGINT, SIGIO, etc. |
| 15:53.24 | eightyeight | the more i learn about Rust, the more i'm impressed |
| 15:53.30 | manithree | levi: I've been looking for a reason to write something at work in Rust for months now. Still looking .. |
| 15:53.37 | eightyeight | it's not a silver bullet, but it certainly has shaked things up, i feel like |
| 15:53.40 | levi | Those have nothing to do with C the language; they're POSIX environment things. |
| 15:54.19 | levi | manithree: I haven't done a lot with it at work, but I have written some quick network analysis programs. |
| 15:54.56 | eightyeight | i've been debating writing a weechat relay client in rust, just to learn the language |
| 15:55.05 | eightyeight | then a coworker beat me to the punch |
| 15:55.08 | eightyeight | a may do it anyway |
| 15:55.32 | klys_ | how about an irc rss aggregator |
| 15:55.44 | levi | I found it to be a fairly nice language to write parsers in. |
| 15:56.43 | eightyeight | or, at least work through the project euler challenges. maybe the cryptopals challenges also. |
| 15:57.32 | eightyeight | btw, for those with access to OS X installs, would you mind doing me a favor? |
| 15:57.58 | eightyeight | i'm writing one of my slides for openwest, and need the number of iterations pbkdf2-sha-512 applied to your password before storing the hash |
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| 15:58.04 | eightyeight | i don't want the hash. just the iteration count. |
| 15:58.20 | eightyeight | it's variable, and i'm curious what is being applied. |
| 15:58.45 | eightyeight | like so: https://ae7.st/p/30j |
| 15:58.46 | levi | How would one determine that easily? |
| 15:59.14 | Migs | http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/06/30/giant-meteor-hitting-earth-polling-well-presidential-election/86572136/ |
| 16:02.21 | eightyeight | or, even better, if someone could point me to docs that provide a range for the variable iteration count, that would be better |
| 16:02.24 | eightyeight | i've been failing here |
| 16:15.42 | levi | eightyeight: It says 42753 iterations for my account on this machine. |
| 16:15.53 | eightyeight | thx levi |
| 16:30.36 | unum | darn, doesn't seem to be a centos rpm for slim |
| 16:39.54 | jlp_znc | eightyeight: mine says 43668 iterations, OS X Yosemite 10.10.5 |
| 16:40.14 | eightyeight | thx jlp_znc |
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| 16:51.31 | manithree | unum: There's a fedora rpm for slim, did you check epel? |
| 16:55.50 | TodPunk | ~karma ie |
| 16:55.50 | infobot | ie has karma of -778 |
| 16:55.53 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 16:58.59 | unum | manithree: ya |
| 16:59.31 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/9ZnIhSX.gifv |
| 17:00.42 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/V4mcw3L.jpg |
| 17:01.12 | eightyeight | are you an antivaxxer youtah? |
| 17:01.29 | youtah | are you kidding? |
| 17:01.42 | programmerq | yeah, he posts that anti-vaxxer garbage on facebook all the time |
| 17:02.00 | programmerq | I tried to call him out on it once but he just got angry when I calmly cited facts |
| 17:02.09 | eightyeight | i'm not sure what's worse: antivaxxers or pox parties |
| 17:02.15 | youtah | I'm probably one of the biggest anti-anti-vaxxers i know |
| 17:02.37 | youtah | aka pro vaccines |
| 17:06.32 | Migs | that doesn't necessarily make you pro vaccines |
| 17:06.41 | Migs | just means you hate anti vaxxers for whatever reason |
| 17:14.27 | eightyeight | levi: which os x version? |
| 18:06.33 | unum | I thought the graphic was mocking anti-vaxxers.... |
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| 18:18.50 | levi | eightyeight: 10.11.5 apparently |
| 18:19.18 | eightyeight | thx |
| 18:19.53 | eightyeight | i have 7 iterations, 6 of which are 40000 < x < 50000. the other 36363 |
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| 18:43.18 | Migs | loves all of you |
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| 20:05.25 | jlp_znc | from Spiceworks: "(I) received a complaint that a user locked out his account. He felt it was stupid that the account locked out because it was clearly the old passwrod that was beng used. The computer should have recogniized that since it was the old password, it was the real user who just forgot they changed it." |
| 20:10.20 | TodPunk | sounds about right |
| 20:10.47 | eightyeight | ~ie-- |
| 20:11.08 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 20:14.09 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/gaL3ydn.gifv |
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| 21:04.57 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 21:06.04 | eightyeight | ~ie-- |
| 21:14.57 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 21:15.42 | TodPunk | that... is a baby swimming.... |
| 21:15.45 | TodPunk | ~karma ie |
| 21:15.45 | infobot | ie has karma of -778 |
| 21:15.48 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
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| 21:29.39 | eightyeight | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:32.40 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 21:34.22 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 21:34.39 | TodPunk | some men just want to watch the world burn, eh? |
| 21:34.55 | TodPunk | does nobody want to have another tool to annoy youtah? |
| 21:34.58 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 21:35.15 | eightyeight | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.21 | eightyeight | ~karma ie |
| 21:35.21 | infobot | ie has karma of -778 |
| 21:35.26 | eightyeight | yesss |
| 21:35.38 | TodPunk | ~ie++ |
| 21:38.38 | eightyeight | we needs to drive it down to 6666 |
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| 21:39.23 | TodPunk | I don't think it can be done |
| 21:39.26 | TodPunk | ~karma ie |
| 21:39.26 | infobot | ie has karma of -777 |
| 21:39.34 | TodPunk | ~edge++ |
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| 21:55.31 | RyanE | http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/giant-meteor-of-death-hitting-earth-poll-voters-prefer-over-hillary-clinton-donald-trump |
| 21:55.40 | RyanE | Go Giant Meteor! Woo! |
| 21:59.33 | TodPunk | >.< |
| 21:59.45 | TodPunk | nothing can be nice |
| 22:22.28 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
