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| 15:02.36 | fadein | Hey guys, I was thinking of taking legal advice from this online chatbot: http://www.donotpay.co.uk |
| 15:02.46 | fadein | Should I be concerned that it doesn't use HTTPS? http://unnovative.net/pics/donotpay_password.png |
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| 15:18.35 | programmerq | fadein: I wouldn't put PII through it |
| 15:20.56 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 17:48.57 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 18:00.18 | TodPunk | squeaky wheels often get greased when they should get replaced |
| 18:00.28 | TodPunk | bah, history in quassel strikes again |
| 18:00.30 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 18:33.45 | romanovic | TodPunk: what did quassel do to your history? |
| 18:34.52 | TodPunk | It keeps one global history of your messages, as opposed to per-channel, so if I press up->enter in this channel after making a comment elsewhere, it does that comment rather than my last one here |
| 18:35.23 | TodPunk | But, I just found a setting! |
| 18:35.39 | romanovic | oh, you're right |
| 18:35.51 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 18:35.55 | SunSparc | irssi does the same, have not been bothered by it though |
| 18:37.21 | romanovic | TodPunk has a unique use case where he needs to meet his daily quota of IE dekarmafication |
| 18:37.35 | SunSparc | lol, apparently |
| 18:37.39 | TodPunk | I also have about 20 years of IRC habits to break |
| 18:37.49 | TodPunk | it's instinctive at this point |
| 18:38.56 | romanovic | yeah, i do the same. i frequently enter up+enter in my chrome address bar to go to my last visited url. doesn't work |
| 18:42.36 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 18:43.11 | SunSparc | I do the same things with my kids, when they keep asking the same question. |
| 18:46.40 | jfindlay | this is the best thing I've read on wikipedia today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon#Animated_favicons |
| 18:47.16 | TodPunk | oy, yes, I hate those |
| 18:47.22 | TodPunk | well, dislike |
| 18:47.27 | TodPunk | they aren't prevalent enough for me to hate yet |
| 18:48.42 | jfindlay | "A bug has been open for Firefox since 2001 requesting a way to disable the feature." wikipedia is always so factual |
| 18:49.30 | TodPunk | Like an underhanded comment from a news anchor |
| 18:49.57 | TodPunk | http://imgur.com/gallery/mTkVn |
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| 18:51.13 | TodPunk | youtah: you just missed me linking: http://imgur.com/gallery/mTkVn |
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| 18:53.21 | TodPunk | or maybe you didn't, apparently |
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| 19:42.01 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 20:28.44 | TodPunk | youtah: are you still in like downtown SLC? |
| 20:29.33 | youtah | no |
| 20:29.35 | youtah | I am in Draper |
| 20:30.29 | TodPunk | aren't you guys doing home automation stuff? What the hell is a .NET dev doing there? |
| 20:30.51 | TodPunk | well "networking" stuff |
| 20:31.11 | TodPunk | but seriously, .NET and not-windows aren't historically a good mix, and I'm sure you're not doing Mono |
| 20:35.27 | TodPunk | I feel as if youtah is ignoring me. Probably for dank memes |
| 20:37.36 | youtah | lol |
| 20:37.46 | youtah | that's not for us |
| 20:37.48 | youtah | that is for my friend |
| 20:38.18 | youtah | My friend (who's company is also in Draper) is looking for a .net / security guru |
| 20:38.38 | TodPunk | is it Palo Alto software? |
| 20:38.56 | TodPunk | previously known as Bluecoat? |
| 20:39.10 | youtah | Negative |
| 20:39.22 | TodPunk | has always been disappointed by the .NET positions in Utah |
| 20:39.23 | youtah | Health Equity |
| 20:39.34 | TodPunk | oh, I've interviewed with them before, years ago |
| 20:39.43 | TodPunk | they're ok |
| 20:39.52 | TodPunk | nothing inspiring, but a job nonetheless |
| 20:39.56 | youtah | my friend and neighbhor is the director of infosec |
| 20:40.12 | youtah | so I can walk applications over to him and hand them to him directly |
| 20:40.14 | youtah | which is nice |
| 20:40.19 | joshh | if you do .net/windows, you should be banned from this channel |
| 20:40.34 | TodPunk | This is not #utahlinux |
| 20:40.35 | youtah | why are you banning yourself joshh? |
| 20:40.41 | TodPunk | foo |
| 20:41.07 | TodPunk | regardless, HE can't afford me, so it's a nonstarter anyway |
| 20:41.15 | TodPunk | not that I'm looking (I'm not) |
| 20:41.32 | joshh | lol |
| 20:44.45 | youtah | But we do have that JavaScript position still open |
| 20:44.50 | youtah | and a PHP Dev position open |
| 20:45.54 | TodPunk | you DEF can't afford me |
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| 21:31.39 | levi | You can do .net and windows on Linux, anyway. :P |
| 21:31.58 | TodPunk | ~levi++ |
| 21:32.27 | levi | Not to mention the fact that you can do Linux on Windows, too. |
| 21:41.13 | TodPunk | Somehow, better than in many linuxes |
| 21:41.18 | TodPunk | had to |
| 21:42.14 | romanovic | joshh: I do .net/windows by day, and linux exclusively at home. |
| 21:43.06 | romanovic | I don't always accept job offers at .net/windows shops, but when I do, it's because they offered me $20k/yr more than the competing non-.net offers |
| 21:45.30 | TodPunk | I really like .NET |
| 21:45.40 | levi | I don't dislike .NET |
| 21:47.35 | levi | I really don't dislike it. |
| 21:48.07 | romanovic | I also don't dislike .NET, in 2016 anyway. but I do dislike the practices that seem to be common in many software companies running on .NET. Given two roughly equal offers, I'd jump ship to a python or ruby based company in a moment |
| 21:48.56 | TodPunk | Terrible devs are pretty much universal |
| 21:48.56 | romanovic | or a linux-based company that adopted .NET for its technical advantages, but aren't married to the MS ecosystem and philosophies |
| 21:49.20 | levi | I don't like some Microsoft APIs, but it's a big enough company that I don't want to pretend they're universally good or bad. |
| 21:51.13 | levi | I don't have enough experience with them to have a concrete opinion either. Haven't used any .NET stuff in anger in a while. |
| 21:53.26 | TodPunk | What I don't like about most .NET jobs is the enterprisey nonsense that comes withit |
| 21:53.45 | TodPunk | That overengineered stupidity is why I didn't get into Java jobs |
| 21:55.19 | youtah | likes Java... so I suppose I would like C#? |
| 21:57.02 | romanovic | youtah: I think so. It feels much cleaner, and very easy to step into from Java |
| 21:57.22 | youtah | really learning the libraries is the biggest step? |
| 21:57.38 | youtah | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=40431698&nid=235&title=us-gives-iraq-27b-credit-to-buy-military-equipment <<< why do I feel like this is a bad idea? |
| 21:57.40 | TodPunk | yeah, and with VS you have a lot of help with that |
| 21:57.56 | youtah | I need a crash course in VS |
| 21:58.02 | youtah | just uses Atom |
| 21:58.05 | TodPunk | I don't think you do, honestly |
| 21:58.27 | TodPunk | If you can create a project via the wizard, you've done all the confusing bits |
| 21:58.38 | TodPunk | and quite frankly you could just keep using Atom |
| 21:58.43 | TodPunk | you'd just be one of /those/ people |
| 21:58.50 | youtah | lol |
| 21:59.02 | youtah | At least I wouldnt be one of those Sublime users |
| 21:59.06 | youtah | or even worse... emacs |
| 21:59.13 | youtah | ducks and hides |
| 21:59.24 | TodPunk | sublime users are vegans, atom users are just vegetarians |
| 21:59.35 | TodPunk | emacs users are democrats |
| 21:59.40 | TodPunk | vim republicans |
| 21:59.50 | youtah | vi libritarians? |
| 22:00.00 | TodPunk | vi preppers |
| 22:00.13 | youtah | libertarian* |
| 22:00.54 | youtah | https://scontent.fsnc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13256323_10209754773970303_8658357327481882277_n.jpg?oh=05b68893e29b98610207885b0cb99ea5&oe=58368892 |
| 22:01.08 | TodPunk | hahaha |
| 22:01.58 | romanovic | things are topsy turvy this decade. Java is no longer the same free and open language. Oracle might sue you for building a hugely successful product on top of Java, while MS has now made .NET platform-independent and linux-friendly |
| 22:02.35 | TodPunk | goes home |
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| 23:41.22 | ezakimak | where does that place nano/pico users? |
| 23:42.48 | ezakimak | I've actually met a couple over the years |
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