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| 03:29.01 | spangborn | ~IE-- |
| 03:29.54 | spangborn | It's more funny if the receiver doesn't agree |
| 03:34.37 | TodPunk | ~IE++ |
| 03:35.06 | TodPunk | spangborn: I think that's the definition of being an asshole |
| 03:35.46 | TodPunk | like if what you're doing doesn't matter, that's one thing, but if you're going to cause actual damage, which TPing does, that's another |
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| 03:54.12 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 03:54.12 | infobot | ie has karma of -658 |
| 03:54.20 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
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| 04:27.37 | levi | I agree on TPing not really being funny. |
| 04:29.07 | SunSparc | Probably more fun than funny. |
| 04:29.33 | levi | Never really saw the fun in vandalism either. |
| 04:29.59 | SunSparc | For any hams out there, I just noticed that StackExchange has added a beta site for hams. |
| 04:30.53 | SunSparc | levi: I would argue that toilet papering is a gray area and may not be considered vandalism by some. |
| 04:31.31 | SunSparc | It is fairly easy to clean up, usually bio-degradable, and typically does not cause destruction. |
| 04:32.24 | SunSparc | Then again, I do not have much experience with it, on either end. |
| 04:33.10 | SunSparc | There is the ham SE site: http://ham.stackexchange.com/ |
| 04:38.00 | taxilian | it's been there for about a year I think |
| 04:38.21 | taxilian | SunSparc "easy to clean up" is relative; if it gets wet then it isn't easy at all |
| 04:42.34 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 04:54.35 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
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| 13:39.26 | Migs | http://ruinmysearchhistory.com/ |
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| 15:20.42 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 15:20.42 | infobot | ie has karma of -660 |
| 15:20.47 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 15:23.10 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 15:26.17 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 15:27.33 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 15:28.52 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 15:29.41 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 15:29.45 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 15:29.45 | infobot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 15:34.45 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 15:39.34 | TodPunk | if she has a task, obviously do that instead |
| 15:39.38 | TodPunk | bah, quassel |
| 15:39.40 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 15:40.24 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 15:45.04 | jfindlay | ~ei++ |
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| 15:59.24 | eightyeight | ~karma ie |
| 15:59.24 | infobot | ie has karma of -669 |
| 15:59.36 | eightyeight | ~karma edge |
| 15:59.36 | infobot | edge has neutral karma |
| 15:59.42 | eightyeight | ~karma brave |
| 15:59.42 | infobot | brave has neutral karma |
| 15:59.56 | eightyeight | ~karma chromium |
| 15:59.56 | infobot | chromium has neutral karma |
| 15:59.58 | eightyeight | ~karma chrome |
| 15:59.58 | infobot | chrome has karma of 4 |
| 16:00.02 | eightyeight | ~karma firefox |
| 16:00.02 | infobot | firefox has karma of 7 |
| 16:00.08 | eightyeight | ~karma opera |
| 16:00.08 | infobot | opera has neutral karma |
| 16:00.12 | eightyeight | ~karma safari |
| 16:00.12 | infobot | safari has karma of 12 |
| 16:00.16 | eightyeight | o.0 |
| 16:00.19 | programmerq | ~edge++ |
| 16:00.28 | eightyeight | ~brave++ |
| 16:04.04 | programmerq | so I did a day trip to SF yesterday. alaska air flight 743 out in the morning. landed at 7:30, had breakfast, coworker picked me up and we went to two customer sites. swung by the office for a couple hours, ate dinner, jumped back on a plane. |
| 16:04.16 | programmerq | I parked in the parking garage instead of far away parking. |
| 16:04.55 | jlp_znc | I used to do that when I would go out to sunnyvale to meet with remedy |
| 16:05.42 | jlp_znc | except one time, when I had to stay over due to a problem and couldn't get a hotel room because "none were available, anywhere", and ended up sleeping on a cot in the remedy office. |
| 16:06.28 | jlp_znc | they gave me a clean t-shirt for the next day, loaned me a towel for the shower. even scrounged up some soap and shampoo. |
| 16:06.42 | programmerq | my coworker that picked me up had never done this training that needed to be done, and it fell to him. I had done it before, so I went out to team teach with him. |
| 16:07.00 | programmerq | he was so happy I was coming out to help he was like "if you can't find a hotel, you can crash at my place" |
| 16:07.12 | programmerq | and I was like "nah, daytrip is what I'll do" |
| 16:07.31 | programmerq | normally I wouldn't have done that, but I've got another trip coming up not too far from now |
| 16:07.31 | jlp_znc | one dude offered to let me crash on his couch, but I didn't finish what I was working on until way late anyway. |
| 16:07.50 | jlp_znc | (he was the guy with the cot in his cube) |
| 16:08.19 | programmerq | only real difference I saw at the office this time was the enclosure for our turtle is huge now. |
| 16:08.26 | jlp_znc | I was a lot younger in those days. |
| 16:09.08 | jlp_znc | one trip out there to do some work in the co-loc we were going to be there three days and the only hotel we could find was in santa cruz. that was "fun". |
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| 17:47.10 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 17:48.32 | jfindlay | ~nacho |
| 17:48.32 | infobot | Tonight I wrestle the seven strongest men in town, maybe the world. |
| 17:48.59 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 17:49.54 | jfindlay | ~napoleon TodPunk |
| 17:49.54 | infobot | ACTION hunts woverines in Alaska with TodPunk's cousins |
| 17:50.17 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 17:54.37 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 17:57.50 | spangborn | Is Brave still halfbaked garbage? |
| 17:58.36 | jfindlay | it's half msg and half spyware/adware |
| 17:58.58 | spangborn | Sounds like giving up on it wasn't such a bad idea then. |
| 17:59.51 | spangborn | I don't particularly care for Brendan Eich, either. |
| 18:00.45 | jfindlay | because you're gay? |
| 18:01.50 | jfindlay | I don't really have strong opinions about the guy, but javascript is a truly frustrating language |
| 18:03.11 | taxilian | eh, just 'til you learn it well enough |
| 18:06.57 | jfindlay | sorry if that was offensive to anyone |
| 18:07.02 | taxilian | it's just one that you really have to learn to architect property; the language doesn't really enforce good practices on anything |
| 18:07.03 | jfindlay | Trump made me do it |
| 18:07.06 | taxilian | lol |
| 18:07.06 | jfindlay | ~trump |
| 18:07.06 | infobot | Trump 2016 FTW! |
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| 18:36.59 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 18:38.14 | TodPunk | javascript as syntax isn't so bad |
| 18:38.28 | TodPunk | javascript as an API and an ecosystem is just hell |
| 18:39.00 | TodPunk | Node just reinforces all the worst parts of doing things with it in a browser, but on a server |
| 18:39.15 | spangborn | I'm required to be gay to dislike someone who donated money to oppress a group of people? |
| 18:39.34 | TodPunk | yes, it's in the rules |
| 18:39.35 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 18:39.42 | spangborn | ~karma IE |
| 18:39.42 | infobot | ie has karma of -675 |
| 18:39.59 | spangborn | Are we trying to overflow the karma? ;p |
| 18:40.07 | TodPunk | nupe |
| 20:03.52 | jlp_znc | Trump/Camacho, 2016! |
| 20:04.01 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4DteLV6mts |
| 20:12.04 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 20:43.29 | TodPunk | I wonder if my current switch will pass VLAN info forward (it's not smart) |
| 20:43.35 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 20:44.05 | TodPunk | I really need to remember Quassel doesn't do history on a per-channel basis for input |
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| 21:23.14 | eightyeight | ~ie-- |
| 21:23.21 | eightyeight | ~brave++ |
| 21:24.19 | jfindlay | TodPunk: weechat is where it's at |
| 21:24.44 | jfindlay | although I was impressed by that one client that conforms to all the latest standards |
| 21:24.58 | eightyeight | i really like weechat |
| 21:25.23 | jfindlay | there are a few things that bug me about it, but I've configured most of them away |
| 21:26.05 | eightyeight | <random>why are cache file names typically stores as hex?</random? |
| 21:26.13 | eightyeight | s/?$/>/ |
| 21:28.06 | jfindlay | eightyeight: nobody is supposed to really know how caching works |
| 21:29.19 | eightyeight | i'm doing a backup of my /home/ dir, and noticed tons of hex cache files |
| 21:29.28 | eightyeight | chromium, firefox, midori, spotify, etc. |
| 21:35.28 | fungus | I guess because it's easy to just use the hash as a filename too, rather than invent another filename to cache file mapping system. |
| 21:41.12 | eightyeight | why not just use the uri path of the resource as the filename? |
| 21:41.51 | fungus | maybe to prevent some URIs that have ugly characters or are overly long. /shrug |
| 21:41.53 | jlp_znc | does it have slashes in it? spaces? is it unique?, safer to encode things into a known character set |
| 21:42.29 | eightyeight | less readable, if you need to dig into the cache though |
| 21:42.39 | eightyeight | makes sense though |
| 21:42.40 | fungus | agree |
| 21:42.46 | eightyeight | /shrug |
| 21:43.40 | eightyeight | (how many times in my life have i needed to dig into the cache?{ |
| 21:44.05 | eightyeight | i really should clean out my ~/Downloads/ directory |
| 21:45.42 | jfindlay | eightyeight: watching a backup does make you think about such things :-) |
| 21:45.49 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 21:45.54 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 21:45.59 | jfindlay | "I still have that?!" |
| 21:45.59 | eightyeight | ~brave++ |
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| 22:00.13 | programmerq | hey eightyeight, you work for a big ISP. wondering if you have any insight. it's happened a couple times now where I simply can't get to the fastly cdn (imgur, github assets, and a bunch of other websites use fastly) for some period of time. a couple weeks ago it was that way for like 10 hours. traceroutes show it goes past my ISP and then to HE, and then nothing after that. |
| 22:00.32 | programmerq | today it happened again, but was having trouble for maybe only 20 minutes. |
| 22:00.45 | programmerq | not sure if it's HE's problem or someone else. |
| 22:01.01 | programmerq | today when it happened, I decided to try using the HE looking glass and it seemed to show the same problem |
| 22:01.29 | programmerq | it's mostly just weird that it seemed to affect the same service a couple weeks apart. |
| 22:01.44 | programmerq | anything else you would have poked to try to diagnose something like that? |
| 22:03.37 | eightyeight | externally, no. i would have run mtr(1) to watch the path, both on-net and off-net. |
| 22:06.12 | programmerq | I forgot about mtr |
| 22:06.28 | programmerq | every time this sort of thing comes up, I use netstat and ping and remember that there was something better |
| 22:07.05 | programmerq | interesting, now it's going directcom(my isp)->syringa->comcast instead of dc->syr->he |
| 22:09.24 | programmerq | all I can really do in these situations is gather info and pass along to my isp and hope they care enough to yell at their upstream providers |
| 22:14.28 | jlp_znc | yeah, that's about all you can do when this happens |
| 22:19.58 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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| 22:26.38 | TodPunk | http://www.w3schools.com/angular/angular_http.asp |
| 22:26.47 | TodPunk | blegh |
| 22:26.49 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 22:32.18 | jfindlay | does anyone here know anything about ruby? |
| 22:32.40 | jfindlay | I get `wrong argument type nil (expected Regexp)` whenever I try to gem install anything |
| 22:35.40 | SunSparc | jfindlay: Are you on the latest version? Maybe do an update just in case. |
| 22:36.44 | jlp_znc | I know that I don't like ruby, does that count? |
| 22:37.05 | jfindlay | SunSparc: I'm on gem version 2.6.4 |
| 22:37.13 | jfindlay | this is also arch, so that could be a thing |
| 22:38.10 | SunSparc | Just a thought. I do not use ruby much. |
| 22:39.05 | jfindlay | I have other evidence that suggests that gem is busted on arch |
| 22:39.17 | jfindlay | or at least on the linode image |
| 22:45.00 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
| 22:48.06 | TodPunk | jfindlay: I'm going to guess it's Arch |
| 22:48.17 | TodPunk | seems like a pretty basic thing to botch, though |
| 22:59.20 | levi | I've seen similar stuff go awry in other places; some piece of infrastructure for a language gets upgraded out-of-sync with other things, and then there's suddenly an error on every package install. |
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| 23:00.22 | levi | Mostly I saw it with perl stuff, but that's mostly because I used distros with lots of perl tools in the guts of the system. |
| 23:06.06 | TodPunk | ~ie-- |
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