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| 14:07.50 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJIGKK47I0 |
| 14:17.39 | manithree | Migs: Clearly I am follicly incapable of being a percussionist. |
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| 14:34.49 | Migs | I just don't think I have the energy |
| 14:35.10 | Migs | this guy's awesome, though. He has a ton of these videos |
| 14:35.19 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KR2U9rkzd8 |
| 14:39.00 | manithree | What do you call people that hang around musicians? |
| 14:40.36 | manithree | Drummers </rimshot> |
| 14:40.45 | eightyeight | ouch |
| 14:42.27 | manithree | And the other great joke I've learned from being in and having kids in band: What's the difference between a trampoline and an oboe? |
| 14:42.50 | manithree | You take your shoes off to jump on a trampoline. |
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| 15:03.09 | jlp_znc | Migs, why have I spent the last 10 minutes watching a guy with no shirt on? That makes me feel... odd. |
| 15:04.14 | eightyeight | you should learn not to click on links from Migs |
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| 15:10.40 | jlp_znc | I should. |
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| 15:48.50 | SunSparc | infobot: Do something interesting. |
| 15:48.50 | infobot | ACTION does something interesting.. |
| 15:49.20 | jlp_znc | ~botsnack |
| 15:49.20 | infobot | aw, gee, jlp_znc |
| 15:49.42 | SunSparc | :) |
| 15:50.02 | jlp_znc | kinda like a scoobysnack, I guess |
| 15:50.24 | SunSparc | wants a scooby snack... |
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| 16:00.56 | jlp_znc | ~scoobysnack SunSpark |
| 16:01.04 | jlp_znc | hmmm, guess not. |
| 16:01.37 | jlp_znc | ~scoobysnack |
| 16:01.37 | infobot | SCooBY-DooBY-Doo! |
| 16:01.40 | jlp_znc | hmmm |
| 16:02.38 | jlp_znc | scoobysnack $1 is <action> tosses $1 a Scooby Snack(tm) |
| 16:03.01 | jlp_znc | scoobysnack $1 is <action>"tosses $1 a Scooby Snack(tm)" |
| 16:03.34 | jlp_znc | ~scoobysnack $1 is <action> tosses $1 a Scooby Snack(tm) |
| 16:03.34 | infobot | okay, jlp_znc |
| 16:03.41 | jlp_znc | ~scoobysnack SunSpark |
| 16:03.41 | infobot | ACTION tosses SunSpark a Scooby Snack(tm) |
| 16:03.46 | jlp_znc | ~scoobysnack SunSparc |
| 16:03.46 | infobot | ACTION tosses SunSparc a Scooby Snack(tm) |
| 16:03.52 | jlp_znc | ~scoobysnack |
| 16:03.53 | infobot | SCooBY-DooBY-Doo! |
| 16:03.54 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 16:03.57 | jlp_znc | there |
| 16:04.29 | SunSparc | munches his scooby snack happily |
| 16:06.43 | jfindlay | ~kronk jlp_znc |
| 16:06.44 | infobot | ACTION makes jlp_znc spinach puffs |
| 16:06.52 | jlp_znc | thanks! |
| 16:07.02 | jlp_znc | oh, wait. spinach. |
| 16:07.04 | jlp_znc | no thanks! |
| 16:07.17 | SunSparc | Saved em! |
| 16:08.42 | SunSparc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mlu4pgZzKo |
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| 17:49.21 | youtah | So\ |
| 17:49.26 | youtah | Mock disasters are a lot of fun |
| 17:49.48 | youtah | and a lot more intese (even knowing it is fake) than one might think |
| 17:50.01 | youtah | http://www.patheos.com/blogs/laughingindisbelief/2016/04/iceland-declares-christianity-a-public-health-hazard/ |
| 17:52.00 | Migs | I hate working on apps that have to do with managing deceased students. Working on one now, and with the test data, I have to pull up user accounts, and I see a complete picture history of them from kindergarten up until the year they died. So depressing. |
| 17:56.47 | jsmith | Migs: Sorry :-( |
| 17:56.58 | youtah | :( |
| 17:57.45 | voldemortensen | That sounds like one of the worst jobs ever. |
| 18:03.00 | joshh | ya i don't understand how people do death-related jobs for a long time |
| 18:03.13 | joshh | like if you're a mortician or coroner or something, you've gotta be completely nuts |
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| 18:13.13 | youtah | TodPunk, did you like my photo of the spider from this morning? |
| 18:13.26 | voldemortensen | Growing up I had a friend who's dad was a mortician. |
| 18:13.46 | youtah | undertak1ngyou is a mortician |
| 18:14.02 | youtah | who did you know voldemortensen? |
| 18:14.45 | youtah | I grew up with the Cannons (Cannon mortuary) |
| 18:15.00 | Migs | I think after awhile you just go numb to it |
| 18:15.10 | voldemortensen | You'd have to. |
| 18:15.48 | youtah | when my dad was an EMT and then later an RN (worked a lot in the E.R. [now referred to as the E.D.]) he said after a while |
| 18:15.56 | youtah | you start to go into this mode of "you're working on a car" |
| 18:16.00 | youtah | and "these are all parts" |
| 18:16.10 | youtah | and "this part goes here, and should do this" kind of mode |
| 18:16.18 | voldemortensen | My wife is a nurse and on the first day of her first job after graduating, she went in for shift exchange and the nurse she replaced was like, "Oh yeah, the patient in room ### died. You need to go declare them dead." |
| 18:17.11 | youtah | but yeah, get undertak1ngyou to tell some stories. He's got good stories |
| 18:17.23 | Migs | in a hospital you expect that sort of thing, though |
| 18:17.34 | Migs | I work for a school district. I don't expect to have to deal with dead students. |
| 18:17.36 | youtah | true |
| 18:18.09 | joshh | why does the school need to do somethign that involves a pictorial history of dead students? |
| 18:18.18 | youtah | we he didnt expect, being one of the only male nurses in the hospital, and before they had security, was a women in an ambulance that had been stabbed multiple times |
| 18:18.29 | Migs | well, we keep it for all students. |
| 18:18.35 | youtah | and then 10 seconds later, the husband pulls up with a knife trying to finish the jib |
| 18:18.36 | youtah | job |
| 18:18.49 | youtah | and he is physically fighting them until the police can get there |
| 18:18.56 | Migs | the photos makes it easy to retrieve their photos for our apps, and students don't always take pictures each year, so we keep an archive so at least there's a past picture |
| 18:19.15 | youtah | but none the less, still rough Migs |
| 18:19.16 | joshh | why are there apps? |
| 18:19.16 | youtah | :( |
| 18:19.48 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/wCr0B7G.jpg << jfindlay |
| 18:20.05 | jfindlay | youtah: nice url |
| 18:20.11 | Migs | joshh: The photos get displayed on sites and apps like our grades/attendance portal for parents and students, or in our admin management tool that pulls up student records, in teacher attendance apps so they can put pictures on a seating chart, in our online course system for face-to-face and online teachers to better associate students with faces... |
| 18:20.12 | Migs | stuff like that |
| 18:20.19 | youtah | Cleeeeeeek Eeet |
| 18:20.42 | joshh | i guess schools have advanced a bit in the tech dept since the 90s |
| 18:20.44 | Migs | they get loaded into the students' email accounts, too |
| 18:20.54 | Migs | just a bit |
| 18:20.56 | jfindlay | youtah: nice |
| 18:21.02 | youtah | my professor still uses scantrons and an overhead projector |
| 18:21.09 | Migs | that sounds delightful |
| 18:21.28 | Migs | we use online tests and every one of our classrooms is equipped with a mounted digital projector. Many have document cameras, too |
| 18:21.48 | Migs | some of the projects are still VGA, but I think half have been moved to HDMI now |
| 18:21.52 | youtah | he's supposed to be using Canvas, but... he's an old school finance guy I guess |
| 18:22.53 | keldwud | <3 instructure |
| 18:23.27 | Migs | we use Moodle |
| 18:23.35 | Migs | a very heavily modified Moodle |
| 18:24.20 | jfindlay | I interviewed at instructure a couple of times |
| 18:24.51 | jfindlay | they seemed too full of their own interview process to be able to recognize the value I could have contributed |
| 18:25.00 | Migs | that's a shame |
| 18:25.27 | Migs | as much as I love the ed tech field, I don't think I'd want to work for a for-profit edu company |
| 18:25.30 | jfindlay | it's fine, I'm pretty sure I'm happier at saltstack than I would have been there |
| 18:25.37 | Migs | not exclusively, at least. I guess it depends. |
| 18:25.54 | Migs | Instructure does make a good product |
| 18:31.37 | youtah | There are things I dont like |
| 18:32.14 | Migs | we've taking the stuff we don't like in Canvas and tried to make it better in our Moodle site |
| 18:33.23 | Migs | totally stole some of their good ideas, too. Like organizing separate pages for Assignments, Resources, Grades, etc. |
| 18:33.55 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/XnUnl8A.gifv |
| 18:36.48 | voldemortensen | I've never enjoyed using canvas. |
| 18:37.12 | voldemortensen | But I don't think I've ever had a professor use it correctly. |
| 18:39.59 | youtah | thats one of the biggest problems IMO |
| 18:40.07 | youtah | None of the professors know how to actually use it |
| 18:40.13 | youtah | it isn't untuitive enough |
| 18:40.19 | jfindlay | lol |
| 18:40.23 | youtah | and a platform like that, you shouldn't have to "read the instructions" |
| 18:40.46 | youtah | they give the professor 100 feet of rope, plenty to hang themselves with |
| 18:40.56 | jnbek | I read canvas and thought html5 >_< |
| 18:40.57 | jfindlay | anything is better than blackboard |
| 18:41.17 | jfindlay | but you should watch out. I heard they have a patent on 'elearning' |
| 18:41.21 | jfindlay | on a computer even! |
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| 18:52.43 | Migs | lulz, how'd they pull that off? |
| 18:52.59 | Migs | also, all blackboard is good at is buying 'elearning' companies |
| 18:58.19 | Migs | if a school isn't investing in training when they deploy a new app they're requiring all teachers to use, they're doing it wrong |
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| 19:25.23 | TodPunk | youtah: that thread has so many idiot parrots I want to strangle a box full of kittens |
| 19:25.33 | TodPunk | not the spider one, the bernie sanders one |
| 19:25.42 | TodPunk | good god the level of stupid in that thing |
| 19:26.36 | TodPunk | "They're just lazy hipsters." "They just want free stuff" "No, government subsidies caused this!" "I hear it's communism!" |
| 19:28.00 | TodPunk | You idiots! In 20 years your kids aren't going to be able to get jobs unless they work in one of a very few fields and those will be saturated to hell! The problem has nothing to do with your pet ideology, and your Federalist Paper bullshit religion isn't going to help anything! |
| 19:28.58 | TodPunk | is upset about people that can't take their heads out of their butts for 10 seconds beyond an us vs them nonsense mentality |
| 19:29.04 | TodPunk | you did this to me, youtah |
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| 19:32.17 | youtah | what did I do TodPunk? |
| 19:32.53 | youtah | oh |
| 19:32.54 | youtah | nm |
| 19:32.56 | youtah | saw your rant |
| 19:32.56 | youtah | yeah |
| 19:33.10 | youtah | lol, well the Millenials outnumber the baby boomers |
| 19:33.34 | youtah | so they're going to just have to deal with it |
| 19:34.01 | TodPunk | If I'm being honest, that camp is just as bad, but at least they're attempting to deal with the issue |
| 19:34.18 | youtah | yup |
| 19:34.43 | youtah | at least they're not sticking their heads in the sand and pretending like there isn't a GOP elephant in the room |
| 19:35.26 | TodPunk | The best the opposition has is "back in my day-" Stop, stop right there. You're an idiot that can't see the different landscape all around him. Look at this cell phone. Look at it. I can tell you anything, the whole sum of human knowledge, in summary form within 30 seconds from anywhere in the world with this device. Where's your childhood paper route now? |
| 19:36.08 | youtah | I heard someone once say "well, dont worry about it. You're going to be dead soon Grandpa" |
| 19:37.25 | youtah | mmmmmmm, salt and vinegar chips |
| 19:37.34 | TodPunk | Peppered beef jerky for me |
| 19:47.30 | SunSparc | ~chill TodPunk |
| 19:47.30 | infobot | ACTION grabs TodPunk and rams a chillpill down TodPunk's throat with a toilet plunger |
| 19:47.37 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:47.55 | TodPunk | Sadly I'm resistant to the drug |
| 19:47.59 | SunSparc | youtah: Pass the chips. I love salt and vinegar. |
| 19:48.05 | SunSparc | TodPunk: lol |
| 19:49.45 | SunSparc | I am currently reading "Who Killed The Constitution" (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307405761). Fascinating and frustrating at the very same time. |
| 19:50.47 | SunSparc | Apparently there have been plenty of people bent on killing the constitution since it was established. |
| 19:50.58 | TodPunk | It was never meant to be permanent |
| 19:51.10 | SunSparc | Sure. |
| 19:51.16 | youtah | and then they all got old and died |
| 19:51.34 | TodPunk | I don't think changing slightly and slowly over decades of time is "killing" it |
| 19:51.37 | youtah | I heard Banjamin Franklin could have literally been one of the US founding fathers |
| 19:52.21 | youtah | as in, my history professor was going on about how many women B.F. slept with on a daily basis and was extremely well known for being a ladies man |
| 19:52.46 | jfindlay | which is why that one the office episode is funny |
| 19:53.00 | SunSparc | TodPunk: I do not either. But I do think that hacking the very foundations it set out can have some pretty drastic negative side effects. |
| 19:54.10 | TodPunk | Yeah, getting rid of the 3/5ths compromise was really the death knell to American Liberty </sarcasm> |
| 19:54.47 | SunSparc | Sorry, not familiar with that one yet. Still learning. |
| 19:56.34 | SunSparc | Ah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise |
| 19:56.44 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 21:26.32 | youtah | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=39477233&nid=1012&title=google-fiber-coming-to-slc-is-the-speed-worth-the-price |
| 21:29.02 | eightyeight | $70/mo. for symmetrical gigabit is expensive? o.0 |
| 21:29.26 | TodPunk | eightyeight: but think of the children |
| 21:29.28 | TodPunk | or something |
| 21:29.30 | eightyeight | but $60/mo. for asymmetrical DSL 15M/.896M is not? |
| 21:29.37 | youtah | Right? |
| 21:29.55 | youtah | I think this chick from KSL has no idea WTF she is talking about |
| 21:30.43 | jlp_znc | well, she does have a BA |
| 21:30.50 | jlp_znc | (a sheep degree, I guess) |
| 21:31.12 | Migs | from the Department of Communications, no less |
| 21:31.53 | youtah | I am getting my degree from the Comm dept |
| 21:31.59 | youtah | of course, mine is a B.S. |
| 21:32.21 | youtah | I'll bet you she does essential oils |
| 21:32.41 | joshh | communications and business are the standard default majors for everyone who doesn't actually have anything else in mind |
| 21:32.51 | joshh | but just need to "go to college" |
| 21:33.06 | jlp_znc | ahh, a bovine excrement degree... much better. :-) |
| 21:33.21 | Migs | lol'd at "essential oils" |
| 21:33.54 | joshh | don't you like the way they make your skin feel? |
| 21:34.08 | Migs | when I was an undergrad I loved all the business majors who'd ask me what my major was. "Uhhhh, CS." "Cool, someday I could be your boss!" |
| 21:34.15 | Migs | and by "all" I mean it happened twice |
| 21:34.38 | jlp_znc | presumably, that was all of the ones that you encountered |
| 21:34.46 | Migs | I think saying "all" makes it sound like it's a widespread pandemic of arrogance among business majors, though |
| 21:34.48 | youtah | Speaking of keeping your skin looking fresh |
| 21:34.55 | youtah | did anyone see Game of Thrones last night? |
| 21:35.11 | youtah | saw it, won't give any spoilers |
| 21:35.12 | joshh | i did |
| 21:35.22 | youtah | omggggggggggggggggg |
| 21:35.39 | joshh | ya it was a solid premiere |
| 21:35.50 | youtah | all I will say joshh ... melisandre must use essential oils |
| 21:36.07 | joshh | yes im sure she does |
| 21:36.09 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:36.15 | eightyeight | my degree was mathematics |
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| 21:36.29 | eightyeight | frequently, i got (and still get): "What do you do with a math degree?" |
| 21:36.40 | youtah | Cocaine |
| 21:36.47 | youtah | I do Cocaine with a math degree |
| 21:36.50 | youtah | you should say that |
| 21:36.53 | youtah | see what they do |
| 21:37.14 | eightyeight | "The same thing as an English degree, or Art degree, or Music, or Theater, or Philosophy, or ...." |
| 21:37.17 | eightyeight | "you get a job" |
| 21:37.22 | Migs | at Starbucks |
| 21:37.32 | eightyeight | doesn't work at starbucks |
| 21:37.43 | joshh | youtah: do you also watch silicon valley? |
| 21:37.49 | youtah | no :( |
| 21:37.55 | youtah | I have been told like 18 times I need to |
| 21:37.56 | joshh | it's always good for a more lighthearted time after got |
| 21:38.02 | youtah | I have seen one episode |
| 21:38.02 | Migs | I meant the English/Art/Music/Theater/Philosophy grads do |
| 21:38.11 | youtah | and it has to do with fingers pointing towards each other joshh |
| 21:38.16 | joshh | yes you need to |
| 21:38.22 | Migs | What's the appeal of watching Silicon Valley? |
| 21:38.26 | joshh | its funny |
| 21:38.28 | Migs | It seemed kind of lame to me |
| 21:38.40 | Migs | like a show for the general masses instead of the actual geeks |
| 21:38.40 | joshh | you have bad opinions |
| 21:38.46 | jfindlay | with a math degree you get a job and you know what ignorance looks like |
| 21:38.46 | youtah | lol |
| 21:38.49 | Migs | Nonsense. My opinions are all correct. |
| 21:38.50 | joshh | it has a lot of in-jokes for geeks |
| 21:38.52 | joshh | that regular people don't get |
| 21:38.59 | Migs | I did only watch for 5 minutes |
| 21:39.08 | youtah | as jlp_znc once taught me... "you are entitled to your erroneous opinion" |
| 21:39.10 | joshh | but it's also good for anyone in general who is capable of understanding how companies and VC work |
| 21:39.14 | eightyeight | "Oh! That must mean you're good at taxes!" |
| 21:39.20 | Migs | hahahaha |
| 21:39.32 | eightyeight | "Yes. That's exactly what that means. I'm good at taxes. Good job!" |
| 21:39.44 | jfindlay | eightyeight: you must be good at story problems! |
| 21:39.55 | joshh | eightyeight: better than assumed to be an expert at windows and MS office |
| 21:40.13 | joshh | which you probably are anyway, since you do computer stuff |
| 21:40.55 | Migs | I'm glad I'm a web developer. Everybody knows what that is. |
| 21:40.55 | eightyeight | Yup. I can clean up viruses, and troubleshoot 2003 Canon cameras, and navigate my way through Quicken like a BOSS |
| 21:41.16 | Migs | If I were a server admin and tried to explain my job, they'd just say "Ohhh! You're in computers?? *makes typing motions with hands*" |
| 21:44.28 | youtah | speaking of cocaine https://www.facebook.com/Fubiz/videos/10153694665897746/ |
| 21:45.31 | Migs | wat |
| 21:49.12 | youtah | is that video Migs approved? |
| 22:05.12 | voldemortensen1 | I just tell people I don't have a degree. |
| 22:05.23 | voldemortensen1 | And then they look at me with pity because I must be stupid. |
| 22:05.34 | voldemortensen1 | Then I drop this on them |
| 22:05.36 | voldemortensen1 | perl -e'print pack("U*", split/\D/,q{73De32aB119PerlRocks!!97!#110#!@116&*(32^&121(]|111Sierra117!\}32tr116-111+32FF108!!!one101VmX97\m/114)(&110aSd32@$80&*101lkm114mkz108}),"\n";' |
| 22:05.43 | voldemortensen1 | and they think I'm smart. |
| 22:06.28 | programmerq | I think that we'll see more and more "higher education" type of folks who ditched school and are self taught |
| 22:06.39 | programmerq | with the cost of a degree getting more and more stupid |
| 22:07.15 | voldemortensen | But hey, starting salary averages are getting higher: https://ksl.com/?sid=39448178&nid=148 |
| 22:35.11 | Migs | youtah: I've never seen any video by you I didn't approve |
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| 22:35.50 | Migs | I'd really like to know how they got those salary averages |
| 22:36.16 | youtah | ah thanks Migs |
| 22:40.45 | TodPunk | but youtah, that journalistic mastery from her degree has also allowed her to join the ranks of bikini fitness champions |
| 22:41.26 | youtah | WAT |
| 22:44.55 | jlp_znc | well, she was a Utah Blaze dancer |
| 22:45.04 | jlp_znc | it's on her LinkedIn profile. |
| 22:45.39 | jlp_znc | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cosette-jarrett-089ab35a |
| 22:45.48 | jlp_znc | I'm tempted to send her a connect request. :-) |
| 22:46.02 | jlp_znc | just to see what would happen. she does have 450 connections. |
| 22:46.46 | Migs | she'd probably just accept and you'd both move on with your lives and forget about it |
| 22:48.39 | jlp_znc | I'm sure she would accept. |
| 22:50.36 | youtah | she is also actively working for Clearlink |
| 22:50.38 | Migs | only one way to find out |
| 22:50.43 | youtah | so that puts a bias on things |
| 22:50.55 | jlp_znc | signs into fake linkedin profile |
| 22:51.07 | Migs | Why don't I have a fake linkedin profile? |
| 22:51.09 | Migs | I have a fake Facebook one |
| 22:51.18 | jlp_znc | I wish I could remember some of the logins for the test accounts we used. |
| 22:52.15 | youtah | Huh |
| 22:52.31 | youtah | I had no idea... but one of the guys I have known on Twitter forever is over operations for Coinbase |
| 22:53.09 | Migs | Twitter has only been around since 2006 or 2007 |
| 22:53.12 | Migs | that's not "forever" |
| 22:53.23 | youtah | actually longer than that |
| 22:53.24 | youtah | 4 ever |
| 22:53.38 | Migs | so you knew him before Twitter? |
| 22:53.40 | eightyeight | this is a lot less bloody than i would have expected: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/zip/5554842449.html |
| 22:53.42 | jlp_znc | it's forever in twitter years |
| 22:55.19 | youtah | and his sister |
| 22:56.35 | jfindlay | dude, all you have to know is that it's on KSL, of course it's going to be biased astroturf |
| 23:00.30 | jlp_znc | time to depart. catch you mooks tomorrow. |
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| 23:29.45 | youtah | later |
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