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| 15:39.51 | keldwud | shalkie: you mean a desperately AWESOME short story by the greatest cyberpunk author ever to write sci-fi :-p |
| 15:39.57 | keldwud | and henry rollins was awesome in that movie |
| 15:42.19 | keldwud | also, wasn't Ice-T in it? |
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| 16:05.28 | shalkie | keldwud: IMDB says yes and Dolph Lundgren too. |
| 16:06.42 | jlp_znc | hey, spangborn, how do I know this Dillon Porter guy that wants to link with me on linkedin? he's apparently linked to you, also. |
| 16:07.00 | keldwud | OMG I FORGOT Dolph Lundgren was in it too |
| 16:07.07 | keldwud | how can you say that movie is *not* awesome? |
| 16:07.17 | keldwud | hey, wanna hear the joke my daughter told me this morning? |
| 16:07.41 | keldwud | she says she made it up, but I suspect she *may* have read it somewhere but good on her if she really came up with it on her own |
| 16:07.45 | jlp_znc | of course, and what movie are we talking about? |
| 16:07.55 | keldwud | "Hey daddy, did you hear about the rabbit with the broken leg?" |
| 16:08.04 | keldwud | google all those actors and you'll find out :) |
| 16:08.08 | keldwud | there is also a dolphin |
| 16:08.18 | jlp_znc | sharknado? |
| 16:08.20 | keldwud | "It was very un-hoppy!" |
| 16:08.29 | jlp_znc | she's discovered the pun! |
| 16:08.35 | keldwud | dolph and ice-t and keanu reeves and henry rollins were all in sharknado? |
| 16:08.44 | jlp_znc | I don't know |
| 16:08.51 | jlp_znc | but they should have been |
| 16:08.57 | keldwud | https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=dolph+lundgren+ice-t+keanu+reeves+henry+rollins&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
| 16:09.06 | keldwud | I googled it for you :-p |
| 16:09.22 | jlp_znc | ahh, but you didn't send me a lmgtfy link |
| 16:09.30 | keldwud | yeah, I wasn't feeling that saucy |
| 16:09.34 | jlp_znc | johnny mnemonic? |
| 16:09.46 | keldwud | yup. amazing movie. shalkie doesn't agree |
| 16:09.52 | jlp_znc | I am trying to remember if I have ever seen that |
| 16:10.20 | keldwud | it's based off of the william gibson short story of the same name |
| 16:10.23 | keldwud | it's set in the sprawl |
| 16:10.39 | keldwud | it takes place before case's adventures in straylight and chiba city |
| 16:11.32 | jlp_znc | I don't think I have seen it... it's not rated on my netflix account. |
| 16:11.54 | keldwud | the girl with the mirror shades in the story is the same molly that helps Case in neuromancer |
| 16:12.30 | keldwud | watch the movie and *then* read the short story. otherwise you will be disappointed |
| 16:12.41 | keldwud | it's gloriously cheesy |
| 16:13.03 | shalkie | keldwud: That I agree with. |
| 16:13.29 | keldwud | the sad part is that it appears that the actors are taking themselves seriously in the movie |
| 16:13.30 | jlp_znc | I'll have to check it out |
| 16:13.32 | keldwud | particularly keanu |
| 16:13.40 | keldwud | it has some cool cyberpunk scenes, too |
| 16:13.55 | keldwud | those awesome 90's renditions of what it would look like |
| 16:14.29 | shalkie | Maybe we need a CyberPunk Theater. |
| 16:14.45 | jlp_znc | http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/ |
| 16:15.03 | shalkie | Has anyone heard the latest on SnowCrash? |
| 16:15.48 | shalkie | I am still amazed that Dolph Lundgren has a Masters in Chemical Engineering. |
| 16:16.47 | keldwud | was snowcrash in production? |
| 16:16.59 | keldwud | Dolph also has hot ladies in his life |
| 16:17.54 | shalkie | Yeah, by Disney I think. |
| 16:20.05 | keldwud | I really would love to see some screen adaptations of gibson and stephenson |
| 16:20.29 | keldwud | are they just waiting until they die like they did with phillip k dick? |
| 16:20.42 | keldwud | so they don't have to pay royalties? |
| 16:20.49 | jlp_znc | probably |
| 16:21.08 | jlp_znc | I'm sure Heinlein was rolling in his grave over Starship Troopers |
| 16:21.21 | keldwud | to be fair, I loved that movie |
| 16:21.25 | keldwud | on different merits, of course |
| 16:21.40 | keldwud | I see the movie and the story as two completely separate properties |
| 16:21.42 | jlp_znc | I enjoyed the movie, too, but only by accepting that it had nothing to do with the book by the same name. |
| 16:21.50 | keldwud | exactly |
| 16:22.19 | shalkie | jlp_znc: So that is where SkyMall went... |
| 16:31.27 | jlp_znc | apparently so |
| 17:11.47 | shalkie | So I was informed that there is now a command line package management system for windows called chocolaty |
| 17:13.51 | jfindlay | you're just now learning about this? :) |
| 17:14.09 | eightyeight | TIL |
| 17:14.32 | jfindlay | eyebrow hairs are harder to pull out than eyelash hairs |
| 17:14.51 | voldemortensen | but eyelash hairs are infinitely more painful |
| 17:17.03 | shalkie | Well as it turns out if you don't have to use windows more then 20 hours a month you really don't follow along with its developments. |
| 17:25.21 | jlp_znc | or, if you don't have to use windows more than an hour a month, you rejoice on a daily basis |
| 17:25.36 | keldwud | I'm excited to have bash available outside of cygwin on windows |
| 17:25.51 | keldwud | like when my job gives me a windows laptop, I'm too lazy to put linux on it |
| 17:26.22 | keldwud | or even better, I can CLI *and* access my full steam library all on the same box! |
| 17:29.00 | eightyeight | when teaching at the UU, i need to use Windows for 3 hours per week |
| 17:29.25 | eightyeight | but then, i'm only accessing a VM through HTML5. so chrome is really the OS there |
| 17:38.23 | voldemortensen | ipconfig /flushdns |
| 17:38.33 | voldemortensen | the only thing I've ever really needed on windows. |
| 17:41.40 | jfindlay | well, salt works on windows, and that hides much of the obtuseness of it |
| 17:46.00 | keldwud | we are using salt with our windows machines here |
| 17:46.03 | keldwud | or trying to at least :) |
| 18:00.11 | unum | my main argument for moving over 400 computers to linux was salt |
| 18:00.31 | unum | I didn't know it ran on windows |
| 18:01.11 | jfindlay | unum: don't tell anybody |
| 18:02.06 | unum | :) |
| 18:16.15 | jfindlay | unum: are you going to saltconf? |
| 18:16.33 | jfindlay | I would love to hear about your setup sometime |
| 18:29.44 | keldwud | I'm going to saltconf :) |
| 18:30.01 | keldwud | I can share my use case, too, if you're interested |
| 18:30.03 | keldwud | OVER NACHOS |
| 18:30.13 | keldwud | I still really want to throw a nacho party |
| 18:33.17 | jima | nacho party? it has my vote! |
| 18:33.27 | jima | err...oh, a party, with nachos...that too. |
| 18:38.36 | jlp_znc | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4069 <- the trump presidency in a nutshell |
| 18:39.59 | jfindlay | keldwud: looking forward to it :) |
| 19:02.28 | keldwud | tequila goes good with nachos, doesn't it? |
| 19:02.36 | keldwud | or even better, MARGARITAS |
| 19:04.41 | jima | yeah, but some might object to that part :-\ |
| 19:05.01 | jima | it's harder to oppose nachos (unless you have no taste) |
| 19:13.42 | keldwud | yeah, I'm going to have the margaritas in a separate room |
| 19:13.54 | keldwud | and then serve virgin margaritas in the main area |
| 19:13.57 | keldwud | :) |
| 19:14.09 | keldwud | and then nobody will suspect that there are people drinking around them! |
| 19:14.12 | keldwud | is that bad? |
| 19:14.46 | keldwud | I want to do like a nacho bar with different kinds of chips and toppings and cheeses |
| 19:33.44 | spangborn | jlp_znc: I doubt it. |
| 19:34.06 | spangborn | Related: I hate it when people do that. |
| 19:34.18 | spangborn | "Oh look, someone has a new LinkedIn contact! I better add them too!" |
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| 19:40.51 | jlp_znc | well, he actually first requested a link with me about a month ago. |
| 19:41.12 | jlp_znc | He's linked to several people I know from different jobs, which is really weird. |
| 19:42.42 | spangborn | His company had been courting me for a job and it didn't end up happening. |
| 19:42.54 | jlp_znc | keldwud: I'm pretty sure people will be able to tell if others are drinking around them. at least, people who used to drink and/or hang around with drinkers |
| 19:43.08 | jlp_znc | spangborn: ahh. so now he's reaching out. :-) |
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| 19:45.37 | spangborn | They were looking for Python guys. |
| 19:45.46 | spangborn | Maybe he wants you to write some Python ;p |
| 19:47.57 | spangborn | This looks interesting: https://twitter.com/slcpd/status/718471518670471168 |
| 19:48.00 | spangborn | Er, wrong link |
| 19:48.03 | spangborn | I suck at copy/past |
| 19:48.10 | spangborn | https://caddyserver.com/ |
| 19:48.15 | spangborn | Homicides are also apparently interesting. |
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| 20:03.55 | jlp_znc | probably python... my linkedin probes increased significantly when I put "Sr Python/Django Developer" in my title. :-) |
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| 20:04.23 | jlp_znc | the interesting thing is that he is linked to four co-workers from here and two from fusion-io, but he apparently has never worked at either place. |
| 20:04.41 | jlp_znc | and of the four co-workers here, none of them worked together at any previous companies. |
| 20:04.49 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: where are you now? |
| 20:04.55 | jlp_znc | Verisys |
| 20:04.57 | jfindlay | somewhere pythonic? |
| 20:05.14 | jfindlay | wait, is that that doctor background check place? |
| 20:05.14 | jlp_znc | we have two separate teams... a python bunch and a ruby on rails bunch. |
| 20:05.16 | spangborn | jlp_znc: he was definitely looking for Django peeps |
| 20:05.17 | jlp_znc | yep |
| 20:05.32 | jfindlay | I applied for a few positions there and got turned down every time |
| 20:05.33 | jlp_znc | doctors and pharmacists, mainly |
| 20:05.37 | jlp_znc | really? weird. |
| 20:05.58 | spangborn | That was my experience at Fusion.io ;p |
| 20:06.10 | jlp_znc | was that a while ago? I've been here since August. my interview was basically "wow, you've done a lot of stuff. here's some money, can you come work at us?" |
| 20:06.20 | spangborn | Well that's because you're a wizard. |
| 20:06.26 | jlp_znc | snorts |
| 20:06.42 | jfindlay | yeah, by the time one of the managers emailed me to interview for yet another position, I was like 'well, no I'm not going to come in so you can fill your interview quota' |
| 20:06.49 | jfindlay | I was kind of bitter at that point :) |
| 20:06.55 | jlp_znc | I even told them during the interview that I don't know beans about django (still learning cool stuff about it every day) |
| 20:07.14 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: I must suck at interviewing :( |
| 20:07.20 | spangborn | I don't know why I haven't just learned django yet. |
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| 20:07.27 | spangborn | I've interviewed lots of places that want it. |
| 20:07.33 | jlp_znc | I don't blame you. I'm not going to say it's a perfect place to work, but the benefits are good and the people on my team are pretty cool. |
| 20:07.52 | spangborn | I mean, it's no LinkedIn ;) |
| 20:07.53 | jfindlay | yeah, it sounded like a great team |
| 20:07.55 | jlp_znc | I'm on the "core" team, which means fixing all the legacy crap to actually work rationally. |
| 20:08.40 | jfindlay | I interviewed between 1 to 1.5 years ago |
| 20:08.47 | jlp_znc | all the new hotness is supposedly being done in ruby |
| 20:09.17 | jlp_znc | lots of changes since then... they hired a new technology director about four months before I started here and he's been great at fixing all the broken stuff. |
| 20:09.54 | jlp_znc | we're apparently the third dev team to work on this stuff... the previous teams all quit en masse. |
| 20:10.14 | jlp_znc | I've been told we're due for another en masse quitting of the development team :-) |
| 20:11.13 | jfindlay | well I'd update my resume if threats of ruby were going around :) |
| 20:11.14 | jlp_znc | one of the issues with the new stuff being done in ruby is that the ruby guys don't seem to have a solid understanding of scalability. |
| 20:11.55 | jlp_znc | oh, the ruby team ("next gen") has been "working" on it for a year now and they're no closer to actually delivering anything than they were a year ago. |
| 20:12.18 | jlp_znc | I'm not too worried, but if a really nice paying devops job happened to land in my lap, I wouldn't look the other way. |
| 20:12.23 | jfindlay | I interviewed around the same time I was interviewing at saltstack |
| 20:13.02 | jlp_znc | I enjoy software development, but I like being on the ops side more. |
| 20:13.05 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: we're getting ready to hire devops at saltstack, FYI |
| 20:13.25 | jlp_znc | send me a link when you open something... I'll interview, at least. :-) |
| 20:13.36 | jfindlay | sure |
| 20:14.17 | jlp_znc | never hurts to be turning down job offers. |
| 20:14.30 | jlp_znc | or accepting them if they are awesome enough! |
| 20:14.55 | jlp_znc | see PM for contact info |
| 20:23.27 | jlp_znc | shooting at my son's AFB in Texas this morning. base locked down for a couple of hours. |
| 20:24.21 | jlp_znc | looks like a murder suicide. airman shot his squadron commander and then himself. |
| 20:25.33 | spangborn | Oh man :/ |
| 20:25.37 | unum | :( |
| 20:26.23 | unum | state republican party lost their law suit |
| 20:26.34 | jfindlay | which one? |
| 20:26.38 | unum | I think the only race that is going to affect is CD 3 |
| 20:26.50 | unum | signature path to ballot |
| 20:27.01 | unum | they lost it on both accounts |
| 20:28.37 | voldemortensen | jlp_znc: which base? My brother is stationed in Texas. |
| 20:28.47 | unum | now we see how much longer the game of chicken continues |
| 20:28.54 | jlp_znc | Lackland (combined base San Antonio) |
| 20:29.24 | jlp_znc | there are, what, ten bases in Texas? |
| 20:29.31 | voldemortensen | something like that. |
| 20:30.03 | voldemortensen | I think my brother is at Fort Hood. |
| 20:31.14 | jlp_znc | apparently, joint base san antonio was formed from Randolph AFB, Lackland AFB, and Ft. Sam Houston |
| 20:31.20 | unum | so I accidently update my subversion repo after switching to git(long story) is there a way to just push those updates over to the git repo |
| 20:32.08 | jlp_znc | 21 bases between AF, Army, and Navy in TX. http://militarybases.com/texas/ |
| 20:32.37 | jlp_znc | some of those are former bases, though. |
| 20:34.29 | voldemortensen | unum: there's probably some git-svn magic, but its been awhile since I've dabbled with that. |
| 20:35.03 | voldemortensen | lots 'o bases. I went to join the military and turns out I'm not good enough. |
| 20:35.24 | voldemortensen | This thing called "asthma" apparently makes you worthless to the army. |
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| 20:37.06 | jlp_znc | yeah, turns out breathing is pretty important |
| 20:38.14 | unum | I could never pass the fitness test, the air force used to allow a bike test, which i might have been able to pass |
| 20:38.19 | unum | but I have bad knees |
| 20:38.48 | unum | so running is the worst |
| 20:42.35 | jlp_znc | I remember doing the run. we had to come in at under 12 minutes for the 1.5 mile (this was in AFROTC). |
| 20:42.57 | jlp_znc | in Bozeman, I would consistently come in at 11:50. I ran every day (at the gym). I hate running. |
| 20:43.30 | jlp_znc | Went to field training at Vandenberg (sea level + about 50 feet). My time for the mile and a half run was 10:50. A full minute lower then my normal time. |
| 20:44.37 | spangborn | Elevation makes a big difference. |
| 20:45.11 | jlp_znc | Bozeman is apparently at 4820 feet ASL |
| 20:45.26 | jlp_znc | but they didn't take that into account on the requirements. |
| 20:45.49 | spangborn | As an RSL fan, it's fun to watch teams that play at sea level come here and struggle |
| 20:45.53 | jfindlay | that's the army for you :) |
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| 20:46.41 | jlp_znc | I think the humidity at Vandenberg helped me, too. I would always get a dry mouth while running in Bozeman and running in the fog at Vandenberg I never did. |
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| 20:55.03 | keldwud | anybody going on the http://granfondosaltlake.com/ bike "race"? |
| 20:55.17 | keldwud | there are three circuits, a 35, 65 and 100 |
| 20:55.31 | keldwud | I'm going to try the 35 mile ride from rose park out to salt air and back |
| 20:56.59 | spangborn | keldwud: i've thought about it. |
| 20:57.03 | spangborn | What sort of bike do you have? |
| 21:08.55 | unum | got it |
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| 21:37.45 | keldwud | spangborn: just a mid-priced commuter |
| 21:37.58 | keldwud | I can't remember the details :( |
| 21:38.20 | keldwud | but let me know if you end up going, spangborn, we can chat while riding |
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| 21:40.36 | keldwud | spangborn: I figured it out. I have a Trek District something |
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| 21:41.34 | keldwud | I think it is the trek district 9 with brown leather seat and grips |
| 21:41.41 | keldwud | http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/city-bikes/urban-commuter-bikes/district/district-9/p/1362000-2016 |
| 21:41.44 | keldwud | that's the one |
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| 21:56.36 | voldemortensen | https://en.blog.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/https-everywhere-encryption-for-all-wordpress-com-sites/ |
| 21:56.43 | voldemortensen | Nice move. |
| 21:57.02 | shalkie | voldemortensen: What is the tl;dr? |
| 21:57.27 | shalkie | I assume it means they are giving free encryption, but where are the certs coming from? |
| 21:57.33 | voldemortensen | letsencrypt |
| 21:58.22 | voldemortensen | tl;dr, 1,000,000+ websites are having letsencrypt put on them |
| 21:58.35 | voldemortensen | and its being managed by their hosting company, so they don't have to deal with it. |
| 21:58.49 | jima | that's kinda neat, yeah |
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| 21:59.05 | jima | it's reasonably trivial to do at scale like that |
| 21:59.30 | voldemortensen | especially since wordpress.com has such tight control on their hosting environment |
| 21:59.37 | jima | yep |
| 21:59.59 | jima | (as they really have to, on account of wordpress' security track record) |
| 22:01.08 | voldemortensen | iirc, wordpress.com is just one giant multi-site installation |
| 22:01.41 | jima | well, i imagine it's spread out across more servers, but yeah |
| 22:01.46 | voldemortensen | right |
| 22:04.32 | Enemby | awww |
| 22:04.39 | Enemby | my wordpress is hosted on my server |
| 22:04.57 | Enemby | thanks obama |
| 22:05.25 | voldemortensen | well letsencrypt is still free, they just won't do it for you :) |
| 22:06.26 | shalkie | And the letsencrypt tool is really easy to use. |
| 22:07.05 | shalkie | +1 to letsencrypt. |
| 22:08.15 | jima | meanders off |
| 22:08.18 | frostyfrog | I just wish let's encrypt was coded in c. >_> |
| 22:09.01 | frostyfrog | have a big dislike for python... |
| 22:09.27 | frostyfrog | s/have/may have/ |
| 22:09.42 | keldwud | heh... big |
| 22:09.44 | keldwud | python |
| 22:09.46 | keldwud | big |
| 22:11.58 | shalkie | Every now and then I hear this ticking noise and I hope it is from a wood pecker out side and not the spinning platters inside. |
| 22:12.03 | shalkie | crosses fingers |
| 22:12.42 | eightyeight | <3 python |
| 22:12.49 | frostyfrog | Python is relatively small. It's just too slow for my tastes. https://github.com/frostyfrog/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/cd.py takes seconds to run on a raspberry pi. |
| 22:12.58 | frostyfrog | seconds, I say! |
| 22:13.18 | eightyeight | what would C give the letsencrypt client that python doesn't? |
| 22:13.39 | joshh | i think i see what keldwud was doing there |
| 22:13.45 | frostyfrog | faster speed on IoT devices. |
| 22:14.07 | eightyeight | most of the latencies are network bound, not cpu |
| 22:14.08 | frostyfrog | joshh: Maybe I missed it? |
| 22:14.40 | joshh | i think he wasn't talking about the language |
| 22:14.47 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 22:35.45 | shalkie | Well I am sure we can get some Ruby devs to re-write it for ya frostyfrog. |
| 22:35.52 | shalkie | hides behind the forum couch |
| 22:38.08 | jfindlay | so, I discovered that animaniacs is on netflix |
| 22:38.12 | jfindlay | just lost the nex ttwo weeks |
| 22:38.22 | jfindlay | s/nex/next/ |
| 22:38.28 | jfindlay | whatever |
| 22:38.35 | shalkie | Did you look under the cushions for them? |
| 22:38.59 | jfindlay | shalkie: I've already signed them away to TV time |
| 22:45.08 | frostyfrog | was thinking about watching that... |
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