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| 02:59.30 | maquis | What would cause the UI to be significantly diferent between Unity Remote and an android apk? |
| 03:00.15 | maquis | specifically, all UI elements (anything on any of my UI canvasses) are *significantly* smaller in the apk than in Unity Remote. |
| 03:00.50 | maquis | Would that be something in my build settings? It seems like the canvas and UI element settings would be applied similarly between the two ways of running it. |
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| 13:54.20 | jlp_znc | unum: were you able to figure out what resource it was blocked on? in my experience, it's usually a network disk (nfs or whatever) where the server has gone away for some reason, never to return. it's a very sad sad thing. |
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| 14:45.12 | fadein | If Super Mario World can be hacked, then there's no way your iPhone is safe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0 |
| 14:48.26 | TodPunk | Mossad or not-Mossad |
| 14:49.18 | TodPunk | https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf |
| 14:50.59 | unum | jlp_znc: it was on a server that provide nfs and smb |
| 14:51.03 | unum | and was likely related to that |
| 14:53.29 | unum | TodPunk: nice link |
| 14:53.57 | TodPunk | Humorous, but the table is tongue-in-cheek-truth |
| 14:54.13 | unum | when i was teaching classes full of computer sectuiry wannnabees, I would point out to them, that if security was the number one priority, companies wouldn't collect data |
| 14:54.31 | unum | s/sectuiry/security |
| 14:54.47 | unum | or do anything really |
| 14:55.11 | unum | because non existant data and facilities are more safe than any existing data and facilities could be |
| 14:55.55 | unum | the company exists to make money, that is their number one priority, your job as a security expert is to figure out how to use security principles to maxmize profits |
| 14:59.44 | TodPunk | and a lot of that is minimizing risk |
| 14:59.58 | TodPunk | so tell the marketers to go to hell, they can't collect infinite info about the users |
| 15:00.32 | TodPunk | "But if we had their SSN and all the websites they visited, we'd be able to target their needs so much better!" |
| 15:00.52 | unum | to quote mike rowe "safety third" |
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| 15:15.25 | unum | http://financialreports.utah.gov/saoreports/2015/AR15-02NCAAAthleticsSubsidizationUtahSystemofHigherEducation.pdf |
| 15:15.32 | unum | stumbled across that today |
| 15:15.45 | unum | I've always wondered about that, turn out it was really easy to find |
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| 15:27.43 | fadein | googles "Gigantic Martian Insect Party" |
| 15:40.57 | unum | people complain about how obscure perl can be, but I'm not completely convinced it worse than c++ |
| 15:49.24 | TodPunk | depends on how many templates and macros are used |
| 15:49.49 | TodPunk | Perl's issue is you totally change syntax randomly, so reading what you think you're reading is not necessarily what you're reading |
| 15:50.24 | TodPunk | Hence the 99 bottles of beer script |
| 15:57.30 | jlp_znc | there's a 99 bottles of beer script in perl? |
| 15:58.36 | jlp_znc | I'm rather partial to the expect script for that. |
| 15:59.17 | TodPunk | jlp_znc: http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-perl-737.html |
| 15:59.39 | jlp_znc | http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-expect-249.html |
| 15:59.55 | fadein | jlp_znc: is that the one that gets progressively drunk as it goes? |
| 16:00.12 | TodPunk | yes |
| 16:00.18 | jlp_znc | yes |
| 16:00.26 | jlp_znc | and makes mistakes and edits them |
| 16:00.31 | jlp_znc | and makes mistakes while editing |
| 16:02.17 | spangborn | My life is exciting: I just ordered a vacuum online. |
| 16:02.32 | TodPunk | welcome to adulthood |
| 16:02.49 | TodPunk | is it bad that I re-read that as "My wife is exciting" and had to read it a third time? |
| 16:02.53 | spangborn | Hahaha. I'm just excited because it's actually a decent vacuum, not the garbage you buy when you first get an apartment. |
| 16:03.18 | spangborn | Of course, having two 40lb dogs to vacuum up after necessitates having a real vacuum. |
| 16:03.48 | TodPunk | I hear that |
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| 16:03.58 | TodPunk | What vacuum did you get? |
| 16:04.24 | spangborn | It's a Shark. Rotator Professional. |
| 16:04.38 | spangborn | Heard decent things about Dyson, but was told the Shark is even better. |
| 16:04.42 | TodPunk | did you read the vacuum AMAs before purchasing? |
| 16:04.46 | spangborn | Hahaha. |
| 16:05.07 | spangborn | "I am a vacuum designer AMA" |
| 16:05.19 | TodPunk | I read them before I purchased my last one, but I don't remember what they said |
| 16:05.31 | TodPunk | specifically it's a dude who repairs vacuums, two AMAs |
| 16:06.08 | spangborn | Oh nice. |
| 16:07.25 | jfindlay | I had to change the bearings on my vacuum's motor |
| 16:08.28 | jfindlay | I learned two main things: the dyson is well-designed, but a little arrogant |
| 16:08.32 | spangborn | That doesn't sound trivial. |
| 16:08.51 | TodPunk | It's a decent afternoon project |
| 16:08.54 | spangborn | In the sense that they think you'll never need to open it to repair it? |
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| 16:09.27 | spangborn | Dyson is a British company, after all. |
| 16:09.47 | jfindlay | I put in the highest quality industrial bearings I could find and haven't had a problem since. I originally put in some bones skateboard bearings, but the motor spins so rapidly that they kept flying apart |
| 16:10.06 | Jayce^ | It's all about ball-bearings nowadays.. |
| 16:10.22 | spangborn | They've got some balls then? |
| 16:10.27 | jfindlay | spangborn: that every single piece of plastic is engineered, it seems a little full of itself :-) |
| 16:10.30 | eightyeight | i've read that vacuum ama |
| 16:10.44 | eightyeight | i've gone through several vacuums before settling on a dyson |
| 16:10.57 | eightyeight | it has good air flow, the parts are easily replaceable, and a plenty, and it's _lasted_ |
| 16:11.23 | eightyeight | he may be an experienced repairman, but i think he's biased, and it's showing through |
| 16:11.58 | eightyeight | i'm not spending $1500 on a vacuum, for 10% extra efficiency/improvement, when i can get one at 1/3 the price that performs exceptionally well |
| 16:12.06 | eightyeight | and i'm always vacuuming dog hair |
| 16:12.21 | spangborn | I wish there was a roomba capable of actually handling dog hair. |
| 16:12.24 | eightyeight | /if/ this dyson kicks the dust, i'll get another |
| 16:24.54 | TodPunk | I just need a vacuum that will not get the roller killed by dog hair, really. It's not the vacuum bits, it's the roller. The motor kills the belt instantly when the roller is clogged |
| 16:25.35 | TodPunk | or all the long hair from people, which there seems to be a lot of as well |
| 16:41.34 | programmerq | riccar vacuum, in my opinion, is just as good as (if not better) than dyson for a similar pricerange. They are a smaller operation and don't spend much on marketing |
| 16:45.14 | TodPunk | One of the fun things about the anecdotes surrounding vacuums, including the AMA guy, is that demographics influence a lot of things about the variables involved. How do you treat your vacuum? Do you repair it or just replace it? Do you repair it yourself? Do you throw lots of money at a vacuum without thinking about it? All of these lead to extremely lopsided views of the actual quality of vacuums, just like they do cars. |
| 16:46.47 | TodPunk | There are probably some objective things about various vacuums, but they're probably only going to be found at consumer reports or something, which is going to necessitate a selection bias |
| 16:48.00 | programmerq | just go to an actual vacuum repair shop. |
| 16:48.07 | programmerq | the techs know what's good or not. |
| 16:48.23 | TodPunk | That's just the AMA guy problem |
| 16:48.42 | TodPunk | I'm not saying that's not a valid approach |
| 16:48.55 | TodPunk | I'm just saying it's limited in its application, like most approaches will be in this area |
| 16:49.35 | TodPunk | It's not like an AMD vs Intel debate where there is hard measurements that can be assessed in a variety of ways, thereby limiting the biases involved |
| 16:56.20 | TodPunk | kills all the JS task runner things |
| 16:56.34 | programmerq | I think it's less of an AMD vs Intel analogy and more of a skullcandy vs beats by dre vs sennheiser vs bose analogy |
| 16:57.14 | TodPunk | Are you saying vacuums perform a subjective task output? |
| 16:59.17 | spangborn | gulps TodPunk |
| 17:01.15 | TodPunk | ends up in a pipe and never returns |
| 17:01.15 | spangborn | I made a fool of myself criticizing gulp once. |
| 17:01.15 | spangborn | The author of gulp happened to be the one talking to me about it. |
| 17:01.16 | spangborn | I said that I thought it was pointless over grunt. |
| 17:01.16 | TodPunk | It is thus pointless |
| 17:01.16 | spangborn | He ended up going into great detail as to how it's better, and only then I realized who he was. |
| 17:01.16 | TodPunk | They're all just different preferences of one or the other |
| 17:01.34 | spangborn | Pretty much. |
| 17:01.43 | spangborn | I only used grunt because it's what everyone else was using. |
| 17:03.39 | programmerq | TodPunk: all the different brands of headphones play music |
| 17:03.56 | programmerq | but different emphasis goes into design, audio quality, longetivity, and marketing output |
| 17:04.15 | programmerq | dyson puts a big emphasis on the suction, and less on the agitation, and dumps a bunch of stuff into marketing. |
| 17:04.30 | spangborn | And building electric cars now. |
| 17:04.42 | programmerq | riccar puts almost nothing into marketing, but has really good agitation and good suction (but not dyson's crazy suction) |
| 17:05.11 | programmerq | other more commonly recognized brands of vaccuums tend to have mediocre agitation and suction |
| 17:05.22 | programmerq | (at least on the cheaper end of the spectrum) |
| 17:05.25 | spangborn | They pretty much suck. |
| 17:05.32 | jfindlay | programmerq: I've found that my parents' in law Eureka has more suction than my Dyson does |
| 17:05.49 | spangborn | My current Bissel sucks. At sucking. |
| 17:06.03 | jfindlay | not an exact measurement, but it did feel stronger |
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| 17:07.46 | TodPunk | Webpack takes it to an odd extreme, pushing everything into a javascript call just to load an image or css file |
| 17:07.46 | TodPunk | but some people like that for whatever reason they happen to have at the time |
| 17:07.46 | TodPunk | Some reasons are legitimate tradeoffs, some are just preference |
| 17:07.46 | TodPunk | spangborn: how did you get out of that convo? |
| 17:07.46 | TodPunk | walk away friends? |
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| 17:08.58 | TodPunk | wants an electric car |
| 17:09.29 | spangborn | Haha, I basically admitted that I'd try it out and see how it worked for me. |
| 17:09.50 | spangborn | Funny enough, it was in a bicycling channel. |
| 17:10.20 | jfindlay | silly JS nerds and their hipster bikes |
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| 17:21.53 | RyanE | programmerq: I thought you were calling the Dyson a 'Ricer' vacuum, like the cars that people put spoilers and fancy rims on. :) |
| 17:21.56 | RyanE | I think you were right. |
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| 17:24.18 | programmerq | no, riccar is another brand. (I have one. it's great) |
| 17:24.47 | programmerq | I've had it for like 4-5 years. I did kill a belt a couple months ago. |
| 17:25.32 | RyanE | I figured that out after the second time you mentioned it. |
| 17:25.37 | RyanE | but Ricer was funnier. :) |
| 17:32.22 | jfindlay | RyanE: how many spoilers do you have on your vacuum? |
| 17:32.39 | RyanE | not enough, apparently. |
| 17:33.43 | RyanE | It *is* a central vac, so there's room for spoilers on it. |
| 17:36.23 | eightyeight | so, trump's campaign manager... |
| 17:36.29 | eightyeight | heh |
| 17:36.44 | RyanE | no spoilers! |
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| 17:37.58 | jfindlay | ~trump |
| 17:37.58 | infobot | Noooooooooooo! |
| 17:38.29 | SunSparc | ~jfindlay |
| 17:38.31 | eightyeight | Corey Lewandowski was formally charged with misdemeanor battery |
| 17:40.43 | jfindlay | but hillary can get away with all the government's papers |
| 17:49.25 | SunSparc | Anyone here using the Vault product from Hashicorp? |
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| 18:15.20 | unum | jfindlay: yes of couse. If you want the legal precedent it's planey vs cheney |
| 18:15.55 | unum | that's not right |
| 18:16.19 | unum | plame vs cheney |
| 18:16.25 | unum | mine rhymed :) |
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| 19:38.14 | jlp_znc | http://digg.com/video/bass-player-donald-trump-china |
| 19:40.31 | spangborn | jlp_znc: ð |
| 19:40.33 | eightyeight | it almost gets to the point where it sounds like he's almost saying 'vagina' |
| 19:40.51 | jlp_znc | oooh, wait... |
| 19:43.51 | jlp_znc | http://www.dailykos.com/stories/1502902 <- see panel 4 sub-panel 2 |
| 19:49.28 | eightyeight | that's great |
| 19:50.47 | voldemortensen | http://media4.giphy.com/media/CQwNwVTNNLC6Y/giphy.gif |
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| 19:55.20 | jlp_znc | ~voldemortensen++ |
| 19:55.52 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/MuaadElsharif/status/714881786241802240 |
| 19:55.55 | eightyeight | (while we're at it) |
| 20:04.14 | jfindlay | ~horse trump |
| 20:04.14 | infobot | http://trump.horse/ |
| 20:04.19 | jfindlay | can do URLs too |
| 20:04.32 | jlp_znc | oh, jfindlay, thanks for trying. |
| 20:04.39 | jlp_znc | ~pat jfindlay |
| 20:04.40 | infobot | ACTION pats jfindlay and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 20:04.41 | RyanE | horse questionablecontent |
| 20:04.45 | RyanE | ~horse questionablecontent |
| 20:04.45 | infobot | http://questionablecontent.horse/ |
| 20:04.47 | RyanE | duh. |
| 20:05.28 | jfindlay | I don't know what it is called, but I have some sort of psychological dysfunction that prevents me from clicking on URLs |
| 20:05.39 | jlp_znc | it's called NSFW syndrome |
| 20:05.41 | RyanE | probalby for the best. |
| 20:05.47 | RyanE | that one is 'safe', but 'loud'. |
| 20:05.51 | jlp_znc | you get it from hanging around youtah too much |
| 20:05.54 | jfindlay | URL apathy |
| 20:06.04 | RyanE | URLophobia |
| 20:06.17 | RyanE | you get that if you click anything harleypig posts. |
| 20:08.58 | spangborn | Most things youtah posts are terrifying. |
| 20:09.05 | spangborn | His latest Facebook post made me sad though. |
| 20:10.00 | jlp_znc | what is this "book of faces" of which you people always speak? |
| 20:10.12 | jlp_znc | it sounds scary |
| 20:10.20 | spangborn | It's a photo of the puppy he got rid of and then it died. |
| 20:10.30 | spangborn | The one that your son watched for a while :( |
| 20:10.33 | jlp_znc | oh, yes, I remember that dog. sad story. |
| 20:11.51 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: it's a website based on a horror movie |
| 20:12.14 | jlp_znc | I was thinking that... cutting off people's faces and sticking them in a book. horrible. |
| 20:14.01 | jfindlay | the reality is much more horrifying than that |
| 20:18.03 | jfindlay | depending on how much malicious expedience you wish to ascribe to Zuckerberg |
| 20:18.08 | jfindlay | et al |
| 20:19.13 | jfindlay | under a co-opted treachery of good will |
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| 21:49.13 | unum | yeah! I think I finally finished that feature |
| 21:49.31 | unum | the sad thing is I thought I had it done in 6 hours back in decemeber |
| 21:49.38 | unum | turns out I was missing a few requiremnets |
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| 23:14.22 | TodPunk | eightyeight: wait, I've seen a couple vids of that incident, I haven't yet seen one where it looked like he did anything to her. I'm no Trump supporter or anything, but it seems that one isn't even a case. Am I missing something? |
| 23:42.22 | TodPunk | Looks like there was an arm grab, apparently. |
| 23:42.29 | TodPunk | Sigh, remind me to never get into politics ever |
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