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01:50.45davidoFinally got around to submitting my OW talk.
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02:17.41TodPunkgood man
02:18.59RyanEI would give a talk again, but I'm triple-booked that week.  Family Campout, visitors in town, etc.  First time I'll miss it in a few years.  :(
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02:27.01TodPunkI haven't decided to go or not. May just wait to see if I need to speak or not.
02:27.10TodPunkMostly time off work constraints
02:31.19TodPunkpfsense aliases are the best.  Mikrotik is just so far behind on this sort of thing
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02:39.12keldwud_hey TodPunk, I found the project I was thikning of
02:39.25keldwud_it's opnsense except instead of running on free bsd it's on, ummm
02:39.25TodPunkI saw it in dc801
02:39.31TodPunkhardenedbsd
02:39.33keldwud_https://hardenedbsd.org/~shawn/opnsense/
02:39.34keldwud_yeah
02:39.35keldwud_lol
02:39.41keldwud_that's the one :)
02:45.15TodPunkI don't think this will do all that I want it to do
02:45.32TodPunkI hope I'm wrong
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05:05.40maquisthinks that there should be a law that if over a certain percentage of all voters write in *something*, whether its a registered or non-registered write-in, all existing candidates should be immediately disqualified, the election postponed for 60 days, and new candidates selected.... and if any of the write-ins is an actual political figure and gets over x% of all votes, they should be automatically
05:05.46maquisincluded on the ballot in the re-vote
05:05.57maquis~lart emcnabb_
05:05.57infobotaccelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets emcnabb_ feel it
05:06.09maquis~lart goozbach
05:06.09infobottakes goozbach to the vet for a "special" visit
05:06.17maquishasn't done that in a long time.
05:06.40maquisnow that I have a server again, I can actually use irc again!
05:08.24shalkieI see the flaw in your plan maquis:
05:08.30shalkie1) Change name to Mickey Mouse
05:08.36shalkie2) Get elected Dog Catcher
05:09.03shalkie3) Win Presidential election through write-in.
05:12.06maquisshalkie: but they could do that now, as long as they bothered to register in the election
05:12.16maquisin fact, I'm somewhat surprised nobody has tried that
05:12.57maquisI just think it might be a reasonable thing to try to help in situations where there aren't good options
05:14.10maquisHmmm... what to add to my tetris game tonight... bombs, ethereal blocks, or should I start on the breakout level
05:15.08maquisor i could just go play nethack instead
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07:12.05fadeinmaquis: you shouldn't play nethack at this time of night
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07:13.39fadeinthe chances of making a stupid nethack mistake are at their highest after 11pm
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15:11.02keldwudanybody willing to try installing MozDef?
15:11.11keldwudI need to convince the dev that I'm not taking crazy pills
15:11.16keldwudand that it won't even install
15:11.28keldwudI need to convince *myself* that I'm not taking crazy pills
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15:19.08jimakeldwud: you're not doing a very good job of convincing me it's worth the effort :-)
15:19.22jima(but then, i don't know how onerous the process is anyway)
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15:39.55TodPunkkeldwud: are you still trying to compile it on an opnsense box?
15:46.02eightyeightlevi, unum: started WoT #3 this morning
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16:05.58Yorokobi12 more to go. :)
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16:09.43eightyeight11. i've already read the prequel. :)
16:09.57keldwudjima: I know, right? :)
16:10.11keldwudTodPunk: oh I'm not playing with opnsense
16:10.14keldwudnot atm
16:10.43TodPunkok, well, my suggestion to just use linux for this is kinda moot not
16:10.44TodPunk*now
16:10.56keldwudlol, I *am* using linux
16:11.07keldwudMozDef doesn't run on anything else
16:11.09keldwud:-p
16:11.21TodPunkyes, I see from another convo you are using Ubuntu
16:11.24keldwudwell, apparently it doesn't run on anything at this point
16:16.07eightyeight~boo
16:16.07infobotfor heaven's sake, eightyeight, don't do that!
16:17.09jimaeightyeight: WoT #3? why would you do that to yourself...
16:17.35jimaknuckles his forehead in bewilderment
16:18.21eightyeightit's really good
16:18.33eightyeightit's no sanderson, mind you
16:19.02eightyeightbut, that's part of the reason i'm reading the series- i want to see how sanderson finishes it
16:20.46youtah~youtah
16:20.47infobotMmmm Bacon
16:20.59youtahinfobot needs to work on his randomness
16:21.05youtah~youtah
16:21.05infobotDid someone say Nachos?
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16:26.41RyanEeightyeight: that's like walking the across the Sahara because you've heard there are some cool pyramids at the end.
16:27.08eightyeighthah
16:27.24eightyeightRyanE: when i get to book 7, or so i've heard, then i'll evaluate my life
16:27.38RyanEI'm already evaluating your life.  :)
16:27.45RyanEI guess 'judging' would be a better term.
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16:28.06eightyeightyou should be happy for me then. because i'm happy. :)
16:28.08RyanEj/k, I've thought about reading WoT myself.
16:28.23RyanEI'll read it once I've run out of other things to read.  :)
16:31.17jfindlaylike the wheel of space
16:31.31jimaeightyeight: i think jordan left good enough notes that sanderson was able to stay true enough to form.
16:31.50jimagranted, i'm not familiar with sanderson's work (other than on WoT)
16:32.41jimaalso, i agree with RyanE on the sahara comparison...just don't read the BOOK sahara.
16:33.18levieightyeight: You may just want to skip to Sanderson's books before that point.  I'm not sure you'll be missing much.
16:33.25RyanEor watch the *movie* Dune.
16:33.55jimato be entirely fair, i've met a lot of interesting people via a WoT-centric irc channel in the '90s.
16:33.58eightyeightlevi: his books end the series. why would i skip them?
16:34.04eightyeightunless i'm not understanding what you're saying
16:34.08jimaeightyeight: skip TO
16:34.27levieightyeight: I mean skip the middle books and go straight to Sanderson's.
16:34.35eightyeightheh
16:34.37eightyeighti'm not skipping anything
16:34.51leviIt's your time. :)
16:35.01eightyeighti need something to do on the train to/fro work
16:35.12levijima: I was really into the online WoT community (or a part of it anyway) in the 90s too.
16:35.22jimalevi: he's pissing that part of his life away anyway i guess ;-)
16:35.38jimaactually, i still run the botnet in that channel
16:35.50leviI spent a TON of time on AngrealMOO.
16:36.05jimaevery now and then someone comes in and wants to talk about the books, which is REALLY awkward
16:36.16eightyeightWoT readers are so polarized, it's quite funny actually
16:36.38eightyeighti have a coworker who's read the entire series 3x, and with me starting it, is going to restart
16:37.06eightyeightand yet another coworker who thinks it's worse than staring at dirt
16:37.16leviI learned vi and regular expressions to fix AngrealMOO's database textdumps that were corrupted for a span of 3 months or so due to bad RAM.
16:37.17jimai was about to post something funny i saw once, but it'd be a spoiler for eightyeight
16:37.49eightyeighti'll read it, and come to my own conclusions, rather than take all these polarized opinions
16:37.53RyanEYeah, you really shouldn't tell him that it reverts into a sex fantasy novel after book 2.
16:37.54Yorokobieightyeight, New Spring isn't really a prequel; more of a between books 3 and 4 book.
16:37.58RyanEoops
16:38.11jimaHEY EIGHTYEIGHT, DON'T LOOK AT THIS: https://www.flickr.com/photos/neojima/9045593171/
16:38.25jima(anyone else, go ahead, particularly if you've read WoT)
16:38.42jimaRyanE: oops, probably you too if you're going to read it
16:38.51YorokobiI have one that reads, "Bella is a dark friend"
16:38.54eightyeightsanderson sets the bar high with mistborn and stormlight archive. indeed.
16:38.59eightyeighti don't think it'll surpass it
16:39.10jimaYorokobi: hahaha, explains how she survives through everything
16:39.22jimaBela* i think though?
16:39.23eightyeightthen again, it's no tolkien either
16:39.53eightyeightYorokobi: no. it's a #0. moiraine goes from Accepted to full Aes Sedai
16:40.09jimaerr, yeah
16:40.14eightyeightshe also wards Lan in that book
16:40.38Yorokobieightyeight, chronologically true but as far as the narrative goes, that's not how RJ labeled it.
16:40.44leviI honestly really enjoyed the early WoT books, and I would probably enjoy re-reading them, but it's hard to get over the WoT fatigue.
16:40.52jimaimo, some of the references in the series to events in that book (e.g. how they met) are actually better having not read the book until it was published.
16:41.19jimathat may have been what RJ meant
16:41.45eightyeighti don't see how New Spring could fit anywhere in the narrative other than as a prequel
16:42.09jimamaybe you haven't gotten to the references yet? i forget when they were.
16:42.24jimai think the references are funnier having no idea of the context
16:42.34jimaand then later getting the context
16:42.55eightyeightjima: well Siuan is the Amyrlian (sp?), and in the Great Hunt, she and Moiraine recall old times
16:42.56jimaiirc there's some foreshadowing in there, too.
16:43.06eightyeightwhich i would not have appreciated as much had i not read New Spring first
16:43.26eightyeighti'm sure there will be more
16:43.35jima*shrug*
16:43.44eightyeightlan and moiraine recall old times, when she warded him also
16:43.57eightyeightwhich having read New Spring first, i think i appreciated more
16:44.05eightyeightyeah. shrug.
16:44.09leviI usally read series in publication rather than chronological order. I get angry at re-ordered Narnia publications.
16:44.16eightyeightheh
16:44.30eightyeighti read Narnia in chronological order to my daughter
16:44.47leviYou are a bad person. ;)
16:44.55eightyeighthah
16:45.14eightyeightboy, talk about some highs and lows
16:45.59eightyeightthat series has spectacular stories, and hopelessly bad ones, and everything inbetween
16:46.33leviAt least they were brief, unlike the WoT books. :)
16:46.46YorokobiThe penultimate WoT book (Towers of Midnight) is my favourite.
16:46.50eightyeightor ASOFIAF
16:47.05eightyeights/OF/Ol
16:47.11eightyeightyeah. martin.
16:47.16jfindlayeightyeight: I'm sure that's why they gave up on making more movies
16:47.57eightyeightlevi: actually, i'll probably get through the 15 WoT books faster than i did the 7 narnia books
16:48.13eightyeighti only read a chapter per night to my daughter
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16:59.08SunSparcIf you are looking for something good to listen to while you work, check out the WorldHopecast: http://www.worldhopecast.com/
17:22.52unumI was going pretty fast until I got to eight
17:23.00unumI've got to start riding the train again
17:23.53eightyeighti might pass you up. :)
17:28.19unumyou might
17:28.32unumI get bogged down reading about ninave
17:31.13eightyeightshe's one of my favorite characters, actually
17:31.37YorokobiShe gets super annoying sometimes.
17:31.38eightyeightand i learned yesterday how to pronounce it: "nye-neev"
17:31.57eightyeightvs "nihn-a-neev" as i was thinking in my head
17:31.59eightyeightheh
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17:43.16jimaeightyeight: are you tired of the sniffing and braid-tugging yet?
17:50.57romanovicI read some Brandon Sanderson books for the first time while waiting for his WoT books to come out, to see what kind of author he was
17:51.17YorokobiHe's a good story teller.
17:51.18romanovicI've since read almost everything he's written.  I still haven't gone back to finish WoT though
17:51.42romanovicis currently reading The Bands of Mourning
17:54.22eightyeighti've read almost everything of Sanderson also
17:57.03eightyeighti haven't read the elantris, legion, or infinity blade stuff yet.
18:16.56goozbachmaquis!!!! how are ya!
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19:01.05eightyeightjima: nah. not yet.
19:24.26youtahWatched a car on fire
19:24.36youtahat SR-92 and underneath I-15
19:24.42youtahit looked like they had gotten off the freeway
19:24.56youtahI couldn't see it too well, there was a lot of smoke and a lot of steam.
19:25.13youtahThere was a cement truck that pulled up and started hosing off the car with water
19:25.23youtahAND MY PHONE WAS <5% BATTERY AND I COULDNT TAKE PHOTOS
19:25.28youtahCRIED SO HARD
19:25.33youtahTESTING
19:25.44youtahdang, there is no difference between /me and /ME
19:26.23youtahI just *really* hope that everyone was okay
19:26.42youtahthe cars were getting pretty well backed up and I ended up having to take the frontage road
19:30.22RyanESo now I'm thinking I may take the 'back way' home...
19:30.30RyanEsince I would normally take that exit.
19:31.22youtahlol
19:31.24youtahyeah, it was EB
19:31.31RyanEEB?
19:31.33youtahbut traffic both directions came to a stop
19:31.38youtahEast Bound on SR92
19:31.39RyanEyeah, I'd go EB
19:31.56RyanEI may do Traverse Mountain today.  Nice day for a hilly drive.
19:32.19youtahI love driving over suncrest
19:32.32RyanEI like it, don't love it.
19:32.48RyanEa lot harder to listen to a podcast while needing to pay attention.  :)
19:32.50RyanEclear
19:32.53RyanEclear?
19:33.34youtah<PROTECTED>
19:33.35youtahI think
19:33.50youtahyup, worked for my client
19:33.55youtahwithout the space of course
19:34.13youtahLanguage Warning: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdxXIu4UUAA9Yis.jpg:large
19:37.50RyanElikes to keep a clean irssi window.
19:40.25youtahThe seeds Johnny Appleseed sold to farmers throughout Ohio and Indiana produced apples that were inedible, but perfect for making hard cider.
19:40.32youtahvia http://discovermagazine.com/2011/dec/20-things-you-didnt-know-about-alcohol
19:42.09jfindlay/clear
19:42.13jfindlayno space
19:42.45youtah?
19:43.33jfindlay/I know how to to write stuff into IRC without a preceding space/
19:43.46jfindlayI am only demonstrating my awesome
19:43.51RyanE<PROTECTED>
19:43.51jfindlaylike trump
19:43.56jfindlay~trump
19:43.57infobot\o/
19:43.59voldemortensen\/test
19:44.01voldemortensendarn
19:44.05voldemortensen¯\_(ツ)_/¯
19:44.09youtah\nachos
19:44.20youtahno /nacho command
19:44.24youtah\/nachos
19:44.24jnbek~youtah
19:44.24infobotDid someone say Nachos?
19:44.32eightyeight~boo
19:44.32infobotfor heaven's sake, eightyeight, don't do that!
19:44.44youtah~youtah
19:44.45infobotDid someone say Nachos?
19:44.48voldemortensen~nickometer jnbek
19:44.57jnbekoh yea
19:45.00jnbekthat's right yo
19:46.42youtah~nickometer youtah
19:46.51youtahsee, jnbek you're not alone
19:46.59jnbekya, I know
19:47.08youtahit's not easy being a 1%er
19:47.10jnbekthe algorithm involves speical chars
19:47.15youtah;)
19:47.18jnbek~nickometer @#$####!@
19:47.20youtahwe were testing it the other day
19:47.22jnbeksee?
19:47.25jnbek:)
19:47.37youtahI htink jlp_znc got it to like 99.9999%
19:47.57jnbekyea, I had it close to that back in the day
19:48.01jnbekwhen I was running one
19:48.14youtah~nickometer (((((((((((((((((((((((((((0
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19:48.17jnbekended up crashing the bot trying to get better
19:48.21youtahLOL
19:49.19youtah~nickometer †òÅ°
19:50.53jima~nickometer jima
19:50.58jima\o/
19:51.05youtah~jima
19:51.09youtah:(
19:51.12jima~youtah
19:51.12infobotDid someone say Nachos?
19:53.11jnbekthere's your nacho command, youtah
19:53.16jnbekyou're it!
19:53.27youtahlol
19:53.28eightyeight~nickometer eightyeight
19:53.32youtah~youtah
19:53.32infobotMmmm Bacon
19:53.36eightyeight~trump
19:53.36infobotTrump 2016 FTW!
19:55.30youtah~youtah
19:55.30infobotDid someone say Nachos?
19:56.28jfindlaythere seems to be not much knowledge out there on how to use mac-specific command line utilities, like dscl, for example.  The man page is poorly written, and there are no examples online that I ca find so far, which I find mildly amusing or ironic or both since there seems to be more technology people using mac than linux
19:57.12keldwudjfindlay: be the change that you wish to see ;)
19:57.31goozbachpbcopy pbpaste
19:57.36jfindlaythat's true
19:58.01goozbachmeh, I've installed all the GNU tools via brew
19:58.25goozbachand re-mapped the originals to m<WHATEVER> and made the gnu versions the stock ones
19:58.32keldwudwould it just be better to install the module for mysqldb for python rather than try to find a way to do it natively?
19:58.55goozbacheg (sort #gnu version, msort #native mac version)
19:59.10goozbachwhere as the default is sort #mac version, gsort #gnu version
19:59.20jfindlayand don't even get me started on launchctl, which seems well-designed in many ways, but there are a few things about it that are jarringly incoherent
19:59.32goozbachthat's a bear for sure
20:05.54jfindlaydoes anyone here know of a command line utility that will read a plist file?  I'd rather not have to parse the XML therein by hand
20:07.05unumyou could use a perl library
20:07.15unumthat's what I laways do
20:08.41jfindlayI was hoping for an official tool, which seems to be dscl, but I can't figure how to get it to read an explicit file path
20:14.42fadeinjust to make sure - before I put down any money - will OpenWest have a rad-to-the-max electronic badge?
20:17.39unumdon't put money down, submit a presentation
20:19.37fadeinwhat happens if one buys a ticket and *then* is chosen to speak?
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20:41.27programmerqI'm getting all kinds of weird presentation ideas now.
20:42.16programmerqa talk on vinyl records would be neat. then I thought of a ridiculous technological rube goldberg machine that passes a short amount of text along using various ridiculous technologies.
20:43.28programmerqmaybe start out by texting a number, and then that gets transmitted via som digital mode over a ham band, and then decoded somewhere else
20:43.46programmerqwritten out to an electronic tape loop and then decoded at the other end of the loop
20:44.01eightyeightspeaking of openwest, i still don't see the pgp keysigning party page up yet
20:44.03programmerqI could probably come up with a bunch more ridiculous phases too
20:44.04eightyeightpoke Jayce^
20:45.42TodPunkeightyeight: do you poke Jayce^ or mindjuju?
20:46.02eightyeightpokes mindjuju. with a stick.
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20:52.26youtahhas Lehi CERT Training tonight
20:52.49youtahyou should join TodPunk
20:52.54youtahwe'll get cool jackets and hard hats!
20:54.12TodPunkTwo problems with this: I'm trying to get a company off the ground, and I have no reason to care about CERT.  If there is an emergency, I will survive by raiding the actual Traverse Mountain for supplies for our neighborhood.  I will be a tribal warlord like in Mad Max
20:55.30YorokobiAre you going to let your child(ren) be murdered and your wife gang raped like Mad Max, too?
20:55.49YorokobiPick your analogies carefully. Just saying :)
20:56.14TodPunkNo, in this analogy I'm not Mad Max, I'm one of the warlords
20:56.42Yorokobimissed that
20:59.17TodPunkyoutah: you also haven't been going to LDUG and I'm offended
21:00.01youtahlol
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21:17.21jfindlayfadein: then you will have unlocked an achievement level: you get to have lunch with mindjuju
21:18.21jfindlayeightyeight: first you'll need to decrypt it with your private key
21:18.50eightyeight~encrypt jfindlay
21:18.50infobotACTION ~rot13 jfindlay
21:20.46voldemortensen~md5 jfindlay
21:20.58voldemortensenruns because he used md5
21:20.59fadein~md5
21:21.05fadeinthat's what I thought
21:21.15TodPunk~rot13 jfindlay
21:21.15infobotwsvaqynl
21:21.23TodPunk~rot14 jfindlay
21:21.23infobotxtwbrzom
21:21.29TodPunkyesss
21:21.36fadein~rot13  ~rot13 supersecret
21:21.36infobot~ebg13 fhcrefrperg
21:21.40jimaUNBREAKABLE
21:21.55jfindlay~rot31337 TodPunk
21:21.55infobotAvkWbur
21:21.56jima~rot12 xtwbrzom
21:21.56infobotjfindlay
21:22.13TodPunk~md5 jfindlay
21:22.18fadein~rot26 I would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for you pesky kids!
21:22.18infobotI would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for you pesky kids!
21:22.23TodPunk~md5 jfindlay
21:22.25fadeinblast! foiled again
21:22.28voldemortensen~crypt salt hash
21:22.28infobotsaDx81Q2gzI1E
21:22.30TodPunkdoesn't pickup spaces
21:22.41jfindlayTodPunk: you could try quoting
21:22.58TodPunk~md5 "jfindlay"
21:22.59eightyeight~djb2 TodPunk
21:23.03eightyeighthaha
21:23.38fadein~md4 I never understood the appeal of all of those high-falutin hash functions
21:23.50jima~rot26 test;test
21:23.50infobottest;test
21:23.51eightyeight~djb2 fadein
21:23.53jima~rot26 test\;test
21:23.53infobottest\;test
21:23.56voldemortensen~sha512 wut
21:24.01jimano little bobby tables here
21:24.19voldemortensen~sha256 maybe?
21:24.21fadein~rot13  test\;ls -l
21:24.21infobotgrfg\;yf -y
21:24.32eightyeightfadein: actually, weechat uses djb2 as a nick coloring function
21:24.52fadeineightyeight: I hadn't heard of that hash function before
21:24.55eightyeightwell, _can_ _use_
21:25.06eightyeighthttp://www.cse.yorku.ca/~oz/hash.html
21:25.27fadeinlooks at my irssi plugins to see how his nicks get colored
21:25.32fadeinprobably Digest::MD5...
21:25.43eightyeightprobably just a sum of the chars in the nick
21:26.03fadeinoh, it's a Dan Bernstein invention?
21:26.04fadeinthat's cool
21:26.08Yorokobigonna try that nick has on weechat
21:26.14eightyeightyeah. back in '91
21:26.18voldemortensen~reverse infobot
21:26.56eightyeightit's a solid string hashing function that covers ~ 86% of the modulus range
21:27.10eightyeightfor basically a one-liner, it's quite good. and fast.
21:28.59fadeineightyeight: yep, as you said, my irssi plugin just takes a sum of the chars in the nick
21:29.03fadeinreturn $colors[$counter % ($#colors + 1)];
21:29.47eightyeightyeah. that's default in weechat too
21:30.04eightyeightunfortunately, that means "alice" and "celia" get the same color
21:30.14eightyeightor "ailce"
21:30.16eightyeightetc.
21:30.35eightyeightdjb2 provides more diffusion
21:30.49klys~reverse the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
21:31.30voldemortensen~upsidedown god yzal eht revo depmuj xof nworb kciuq eht
21:31.42eightyeightas mentioned, "hash(i) = hash(i - 1) * 33 ^ str[i];" is actually preferred for djb2
21:31.50eightyeight(using xor instead of addition)
21:32.06eightyeightanyway
21:32.09eightyeightTYL
21:53.24SunSparcDo you have experience with UptimeRobot.com for monitoring web services?
22:02.55eightyeightnope. i have experience with nagios/icinga, smokeping, munin, and monitorix, however
22:03.55Yorokobi*cough*Splunk*cough*
22:09.58youtahhttp://mic.com/articles/138244/anonymous-just-made-good-on-its-war-against-donald-trump-in-one-massive-cyberattack#.M0hinvJPr
22:11.00youtahAlthough I think the URL and Headline is clickbait
22:11.07youtahThey released his personal information
22:11.37klyshow personal
22:12.20youtahI think it said his SSN, his personal phone numbers, family information, agent and representation information
22:12.48youtah"On Thursday, Anonymous released what it claims to be Trump's Social Security number, cellphone number and other private, albeit more widely known information about him, such as the names of his parents, children, legal representation and agent."
22:13.50fozzmooI'm not sure whether to boo Anoymous or cheer them on.
22:13.53jfindlaydid they find his birth certificate?
22:13.57RyanEheh
22:14.16RyanEthis election cycle has been even more 'clown' than usual.
22:14.39jfindlayI think you mean election circus
22:14.51RyanEtouche'
22:15.23youtah~trump
22:15.23infobotNoooooooooooo!
22:15.31klys~cruz
22:15.38youtahmissiles!
22:15.41youtahlol
22:16.47youtah~cruz
22:16.47infobotmissiles?
22:17.02klys:)
22:18.13youtahI cant remember who pointed that out to me originally, but it has been stuck in my head ever since
22:18.15youtahthat or the car
22:19.08youtah~cruz
22:19.09infobotlike the car?
22:20.00youtah~todpunk
22:20.32TodPunkcar comment reminds me of rich corinthian leather
22:20.48RyanEthanks, Ricardo Montalban.
22:21.35youtahalthough, the car has an e I beliebe
22:21.38youtahbelieve
22:21.40romanovicfozzmoo: I don't criticise Anonymous's dislike of Trump, but I can't take them seriously when they wage "war" in this way
22:21.52RyanEthat's the clickbait headline.
22:22.22voldemortensenI see a bunch of Trump protesters trying to steal his identity.
22:22.23romanovicthey are just giving him a punch in the teeth in the only way they can ("we're going to find things out about you and TELL EVERYONE, that will show you")
22:22.49voldemortensenI also see Trump hiring people to monitor that activity and actively pursue anyone who tries.
22:22.52voldemortensenAnd suing them.
22:23.02youtahi dunno romanovic, I think they could do some pretty nasty things
22:23.03romanovicbut in the end, that's just what Trump is doing too.  I think people only support him because he's a political punch in the teeth to "the establishment"
22:23.25youtahwhat if they released intellectual property for his companies or his personal finances?
22:23.46RyanEor maybe his taxes?  :)
22:23.50youtahlol
22:23.54romanovicyoutah: i agree, i wouldn't want to be in the crosshairs.  but it wouldn't take much to ruin me financially sadly.  I don't think Trump is vulnerable in that way
22:24.07youtahtrue
22:24.35TodPunkTrump is his own greatest vulnerability in business
22:25.24RyanETrump is his own greatest vulnerability in *
22:25.36youtahwell, and I hear people say all the time "Who else do you know that can fall in $#%@ and stand back up with a gold watch on his wrists"? I keep thinking, well... if you had a $120k annual paycheck and a multibillion dollar company behind you when you filed bankruptcy, you still have more than 99% of Americans.
22:25.41TodPunkfor most things, yes, RyanE
22:26.32youtahThose cirumstances are a little more padded than say for one of us.
22:26.43TodPunk'one of us'
22:26.56youtahin this channel
22:27.02youtahokay, well maybe not you TodPunk
22:27.08youtahyou're in the 1% of the 1%
22:27.31youtahthe 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1%.
22:27.43RyanEon the bottom end?
22:27.48youtahlol
22:27.48RyanEheh
22:27.54youtahtouche
22:28.41RyanEbut the top 1% in terms of people who consistently wear hats.
22:29.48youtahand trench coats
22:31.18youtah7/7 right on march madddnesssssssss
22:31.34voldemortensenYou got Yale?
22:31.46youtahSi
22:32.05voldemortensenNice call. First march madness win in Yale's history I believe.
22:32.14youtahOh?
22:32.32voldemortensenI believe.
22:35.45voldemortensenhttp://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/03/yale-makai-mason-is-the-first-breakout-star-of-march-madness
22:35.57youtahTodPunk you sure you dont want to become CERTified? https://emilms.fema.gov/IS0317/basics/images/ic_01_02_0040.jpg
22:36.02voldemortensen"he plays for a school not used to tournament success (this was Yale’s first tournament win) "
22:36.22TodPunkyoutah: pretty sure I'd prefer to get back down to 1 job
22:36.32RyanEShocking Fact of the day: No single business (Amazon included) accounts for more than 3% of Fedex's revenue.
22:36.48RyanEAt my house, probably 98% of Fedex is from Amazon.  :)
22:36.53youtahWOW
22:37.07TodPunkI mostly get UPS and USPS
22:37.11RyanElink: https://consumerist.com/2016/03/17/free-shipping-not-actually-zero-cost-or-zero-effort-and-fedex-wants-retailers-to-pay-their-share/
22:37.12TodPunkhaven't had fedex in a long time
22:37.16youtahand then you get down?
22:37.28RyanEtrue, mostly UPS/USPS for the Prime stuff.
22:39.15TodPunkwow, that is some whiny fedex execs
22:39.43RyanEyeah, it's almost like he's lost his volleyball-based best friend.  :)
22:39.57TodPunkAmazon also really tries to shy away from fedex and ups in favor of their usps deals
22:41.22romanovicthat's an interesting way to frame it... "online retailers are not picking up their fair share of the cost" == the customer ends up paying either way, but we want price increases to look like they're coming from the retailer
22:42.17RyanEyeah.  Obviously, FedEx will charge whatever they need to in order to cover their costs and make profit.  Whining about it doesn't change that fact.
22:42.49TodPunknot one iota
22:59.56youtahPurdue is in OT

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