| 00:00.44 | nachocheese | TodPunk Luxul |
| 00:05.33 | TodPunk | oh fun |
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| 01:05.29 | levi | Cool. |
| 01:07.20 | levi | I know a few people at Luxul. |
| 01:25.18 | klys | hey |
| 01:40.00 | joshh | what is it, some router company with stuff a bit more solid than dlink? |
| 01:44.37 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 01:46.34 | klys | that's some p.fast 4G |
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| 02:07.56 | shalkie | I suspect that someday we will find out that there was an nacho related easter egg put into Luxul products. |
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| 03:40.25 | jfindlay | lol |
| 03:58.49 | jlp_znc | programmerq: that address is the new police headquarters in SLC |
| 04:00.37 | jlp_znc | and joshh, luxul is supposed to be a step above ubiquiti. |
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| 04:43.45 | programmerq | jlp_znc: ah, that's funny. |
| 04:45.24 | TodPunk | jlp_znc: I refuse to believe that until I've heard of them outside of this channel |
| 04:45.40 | TodPunk | ubiquiti is what all the kids are telling me to get these days |
| 04:45.45 | TodPunk | that or a Nighthawk |
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| 16:29.30 | Jayce^ | https://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/ecdh/ |
| 16:31.31 | RyanE | Saw that on Bruce Schneier's blog this morning. Scary cheap. |
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| 17:15.38 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 17:15.38 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 17:18.15 | TodPunk | I like the Mossad or Not-Mossad approach to security. Do best practices and security will keep out most of the script kiddies and bored crackers. If you're targeted, nothing you will do matters. |
| 17:19.37 | jfindlay | TodPunk: you should tell that to the feds |
| 17:20.49 | TodPunk | I highly doubt the FBI actually needs apple involved to get into the iPhone. They're either lazy or this is a political play (which it is) |
| 17:21.31 | RyanE | no either/or. They *are* lazy, *and* this is a political play. |
| 17:21.34 | TodPunk | Keep in mind that Apple has already cooperated with law enforcement agencies wanting to access iPhones in about 80 other cases previous to this. |
| 17:21.51 | TodPunk | RyanE: that's fair =cP |
| 17:22.34 | jfindlay | I read a thing on TechDirt which suggested the FBI deliberately put the phone into this predicament so they could get the precedent |
| 17:22.49 | jfindlay | but I was talking of feds in general, not just FBI |
| 17:25.37 | TodPunk | I'm not well versed in the details of how, but I'm not uncertain there aren't forums one could pose as a newbie on and one couldn't get help from the crowd to break into the phone anyway. Jailbreaking the iPhone can be done by simply visiting a website on it and waiting. I doubt the "encryption" is somehow magically not something that the internet doesn't understand and know how to access the keys that would unlock it anyway |
| 17:26.00 | TodPunk | so the feds could essentially do that if they wanted to pay for someone to do it, regardless of department |
| 17:30.49 | Jayce^ | TodPunk: there is a bit of a difference in the help they've given before though. They'll help understand the filesystem, and where info is in a non-encrypted system. But they won't put backdoors in |
| 17:31.58 | jlp_znc | even if apple provided them a version of iOS with backdoors, how would they get it onto the phone without unlocking it first? |
| 17:32.38 | Jayce^ | oh, and it's totally not about setting a precedent.. BTW they just pushed for access to 12 other devices... |
| 17:33.56 | jlp_znc | I was under the impression that the problem was that the phone was set to wipe itself if more than 10 unlock attempts failed... I just fail to see how adding a backdoor to a future version of iOS will help them get into this particular device |
| 17:33.59 | TodPunk | Ah, the details are the new encryption scheme in iOS 8+ http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/18/no-apple-has-not-unlocked-70-iphones-for-law-enforcement/ |
| 17:38.09 | jlp_znc | FBI should just go get one of these: https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/iphone-pin-pass-code/ |
| 17:39.22 | asoc | jlp_znc: there is speculation that some of the OS code is not encrypted and in theory you could update it even without unlocking the phone. Although it wouldn't be easy. |
| 17:39.32 | jlp_znc | I see. |
| 17:39.48 | jlp_znc | that seems like an existing security flaw that the FBI could exploit. |
| 17:40.45 | asoc | if you know they actually cared about the phone data instead of precident :) |
| 17:42.21 | asoc | I could also be wrong about that though. I don't have a reliable source on the whole unencrypted section thing. |
| 18:01.43 | Jayce^ | "Those hackers can find a way... somehow..." |
| 18:02.00 | Jayce^ | it's like having a marketing guy as your boss... "Just make it happen, I know you can do it.." |
| 18:02.47 | jfindlay | arbitrary perpendicular lines in space of limited dimensionality |
| 18:03.12 | jfindlay | I wonder if there's a way to cheat that if you assume noneuclidean geometry |
| 18:04.27 | TodPunk | Jayce^: I think it's more like "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave" |
| 18:05.56 | jfindlay | but an orthonormal basis is kind of categorically isomorphic to a space having the same dimensionality regardless of the topology/geometry assumed |
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| 18:11.49 | RyanE | jfindlay: is that from Red Dwarf? |
| 18:12.50 | jfindlay | RyanE: no, I'm just a writer of natural talent and flourish |
| 18:14.36 | jfindlay | but I am suitably flattered and my arrogance is duly magnified |
| 18:15.27 | RyanE | it sounds like something the cat says in an alternate universe when he's smart. |
| 18:15.37 | RyanE | at least in my brain. :) |
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| 18:28.59 | levi | RyanE: If you magnify his arrogance a bit more, his head will explode! :) |
| 18:38.29 | RyanE | it's worth a shot! |
| 18:38.51 | jfindlay | lol |
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| 19:12.55 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yH5iyn81Ks |
| 19:13.00 | RyanE | it's HIPAA, people, not HIPPA... Get your act together. |
| 19:14.41 | jfindlay | get your pun together |
| 19:22.47 | Migs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.50 | shalkie | I'm hip to that. |
| 19:53.33 | levi | Won't you get hip / to this timely tip? |
| 20:02.24 | Migs | awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ucxoKyiZI laser tag with your smartphone |
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| 21:37.26 | pashdown | is that real, because i see a lot of prerendering going on |
| 21:41.01 | programmerq | ah, it's vaporware on IGG |
| 21:41.04 | programmerq | <scam> |
| 21:42.26 | RyanE | the glowey on the LEDs gives it away. |
| 21:42.36 | RyanE | unless they were playing in some serious fog, you wouldn't see that. |
| 21:42.42 | programmerq | flexible goal |
| 21:42.44 | programmerq | totally a scam |
| 21:42.49 | programmerq | they only want $50k |
| 21:42.51 | programmerq | no way |
| 21:45.44 | jlp_znc | I want $50k, too. |
| 21:48.04 | eightyeight | i'll take more |
| 21:51.42 | jlp_znc | I was wondering how they were planning to make any money, too... only $20 for the little module thingy? |
| 21:56.23 | eightyeight | guessing in-game purchases |
| 21:56.33 | eightyeight | longer range guns, sniper rifles, etc |
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| 22:13.21 | jlp_znc | ahh, makes sense. |
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