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| 15:19.34 | jima_ | eightyeight: thanks for confirming my suspicions that vivint et al were pipe dreams |
| 15:19.50 | eightyeight | i'm trying to remain optimistic |
| 15:19.57 | jima_ | s/suspicions/deep-seated biases/ |
| 15:20.01 | eightyeight | in this case, my hub home's AP was damaged during the last wind storm |
| 15:20.16 | eightyeight | all 4 customers on the hub home have been down since then |
| 15:20.19 | jima_ | infobot: thanks, he totally wouldn't have got what i meant |
| 15:20.19 | infobot | jima_: de rien |
| 15:20.26 | eightyeight | i don't know about the other 3, but i've been raising cain since then |
| 15:20.43 | eightyeight | finally, i have a tech support number i can SMS outside of normal support channels |
| 15:21.03 | eightyeight | i love the low ping RTT latencies and the high throughput when it works |
| 15:21.13 | jima_ | "when it works" |
| 15:21.17 | eightyeight | but i get a decent amount of packet loss from time-to-time, which i sort of expected with wireless |
| 15:21.38 | eightyeight | i'm keeping track of my wireless woes with them |
| 15:21.46 | eightyeight | dunno if you saw my gist |
| 15:21.59 | jima_ | i just saw your tweet ~1 hour ago |
| 15:22.17 | eightyeight | https://gist.github.com/atoponce/4b495da9e3a876c44169 |
| 15:22.59 | eightyeight | i'm working on an automated bandwidth throughput tester |
| 15:23.17 | eightyeight | unfortunately, the rpi isn't a great platform for that. i need something a bit beefier. haven't tried the rpi2 |
| 15:24.05 | jima_ | interesting |
| 15:24.06 | eightyeight | i don't expect much out of that though. every time i've tested against a number of different online bandwidth performance testers, it's usually performed within expectation limits |
| 15:24.23 | jima_ | well, three 9s, at least |
| 15:24.33 | eightyeight | that's not hard to achieve though |
| 15:24.54 | eightyeight | 4 nines should be expected out of an ISP, imo. 5 nines would be great. |
| 15:25.25 | eightyeight | my blog, which is on home-brewed hardware, has 5 nines uptime. :) |
| 15:25.55 | jima_ | heh |
| 15:26.06 | jima_ | obviously not on your vivint wireless then ;-) |
| 15:26.42 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_calculation |
| 15:27.48 | jima_ | heh, nice table, that |
| 15:27.50 | eightyeight | nope. in the XM datacenter (staff perk) |
| 15:28.23 | eightyeight | jima_: heh. reading wax and wayne recently? |
| 15:28.33 | jima_ | ...no? |
| 15:28.40 | keldwud | anybody using MozDef? interested in hearing how you like it, your use case, and your opinions. |
| 15:29.11 | eightyeight | jima_: wayne, one of the main characters, speaks in that manner. EG: 'mighty convenient, that' |
| 15:29.18 | eightyeight | just curious. :) |
| 15:29.37 | jima_ | never even heard of it. i guess i just talk strangely? :-P |
| 15:30.05 | jima_ | ...you insensitive clod |
| 15:30.12 | eightyeight | first book in the 'wax and wayne' series: http://brandonsanderson.com/books/mistborn/the-alloy-of-law/ |
| 15:30.20 | jima_ | ack, sanderson |
| 15:30.46 | keldwud | I read a sanderson book once |
| 15:30.47 | eightyeight | 4th book in the saga. the 6th book was released earlier this month. |
| 15:31.00 | keldwud | used metals as the basis for magic |
| 15:31.02 | eightyeight | good reading, if you're looking for something to latch onto |
| 15:31.05 | keldwud | like nickel and tin and shit |
| 15:31.11 | keldwud | what was it that I read? |
| 15:31.11 | eightyeight | keldwud: yeah. the mistborn saga. really good. |
| 15:31.19 | keldwud | and is it worth reading the sequels? |
| 15:31.28 | eightyeight | yes. definitely, yes. |
| 15:31.38 | jima_ | caveat: my only run-in with sanderson's work was the tail end of the wheel of time, which he mopped up. as a WoT type, i already had enough stockholm syndrome with the series, so that's likely tainted my feelings toward him. ;-) |
| 15:31.39 | keldwud | it took on an ominous wheel of time feeling with the whole dark lord thing |
| 15:31.49 | eightyeight | the original trilogy is great, but you can see him improve as a writer with the 'wax and wayne' continuation |
| 15:32.02 | jima_ | keldwud: speak of the dark one... |
| 15:32.03 | keldwud | jima_: I ditched out of the series about 3/4ths of the way through dragon reborn |
| 15:32.27 | jima_ | i had a pusher. someone lent me the first...7? 8? books |
| 15:32.32 | keldwud | and then I tried reading them again recently, still loved eye of the world but this time I couldn't even make it past half way through the great hunt |
| 15:32.54 | keldwud | dragon reborn I honestly put in a lot of effort to even get as far as I did |
| 15:33.03 | jima_ | i fell into the "good time after bad" trap. i don't regret finishing the series, though. |
| 15:33.18 | keldwud | I don't regret not finishing it :) |
| 15:33.27 | jima_ | i can't argue with that standpoint. |
| 15:33.47 | keldwud | eightyeight: maybe I'll finish up mistborn trilogy then |
| 15:33.48 | eightyeight | here are my reviews of the series thus far: |
| 15:33.57 | eightyeight | apologies for 6 lines of links |
| 15:33.58 | keldwud | oh wait! I should be re-reading shannara! |
| 15:34.04 | eightyeight | #1: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1417151119?book_show_action=false |
| 15:34.12 | eightyeight | #2: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1417152964?book_show_action=false |
| 15:34.17 | eightyeight | #3: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1417154334?book_show_action=false |
| 15:34.24 | eightyeight | #4: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1417157302?book_show_action=false |
| 15:34.31 | eightyeight | #5: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1417183085?book_show_action=false |
| 15:34.41 | eightyeight | #6: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1417188526?book_show_action=false |
| 15:34.43 | keldwud | I really loved the unique magic system as well |
| 15:35.23 | eightyeight | i'm currently reading "3.5": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28698036-mistborn |
| 15:35.33 | eightyeight | is a sanderson fan |
| 15:35.38 | keldwud | but I really was weary that the book kept hinting at a reborn cycle of hero and dark one type thing |
| 15:35.51 | jima_ | keldwud: *twitch* |
| 15:35.54 | keldwud | was I just misreading that the story revolved around a reborn thing? |
| 15:36.19 | eightyeight | yeah. you can sense the WoT references in the mistborn saga. it is unique on its own though, even with the influences. |
| 15:36.38 | jima_ | curious. |
| 15:36.43 | keldwud | ok so I wasn't just tripping |
| 15:36.54 | eightyeight | sanderson was a big WoT fan |
| 15:36.59 | keldwud | no shit |
| 15:37.00 | keldwud | lol |
| 15:37.01 | eightyeight | and it comes out in his writing |
| 15:37.02 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 15:53.49 | TodPunk | I like sanderson as a person. The only book of his I've read is Warbreaker, which I greatly enjoyed. I don't read many books. |
| 15:57.31 | eightyeight | my wife and i read warbreaker together. it was her first sanderson book. we both enjoyed it as well. |
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| 17:48.44 | gnord | ugh, WoT.. been reading it for ~2 years and I just finished the 10th book, and I was barely able to not eat rat poison while reading it. not sure I should continue the series at this point |
| 17:50.11 | eightyeight | heh |
| 17:50.38 | eightyeight | i've only read the prequel and the EotW |
| 17:50.50 | eightyeight | i've been told from a few that it's difficult reading to get through |
| 17:50.55 | eightyeight | i still plan on getting through it |
| 17:51.37 | jfindlay | I tried to read my way through the dune series, but then realized I had better things to do with my life |
| 17:51.43 | gnord | It's strangely addictive once immersed, and frustrating at the same time |
| 17:51.55 | eightyeight | jfindlay: that's next on the TOREAD |
| 17:52.55 | jfindlay | I think a successful dune strategy is to read the first few chapters, the last few chapters, then the middle bulk of the book |
| 17:53.06 | jfindlay | that way you will be able to understand what you're reading |
| 17:53.36 | jfindlay | or in some cases, the last few chapters of the next book |
| 17:55.56 | eightyeight | i'm also working through the Louis L'Amour novels my grandfather gave me |
| 17:56.03 | eightyeight | not bad reading, but i wouldn't recommend it either. |
| 17:56.11 | jfindlay | maybe if I were younger and had more time to develop the patience for extended scifi/fantasy competence/literacycomprehension |
| 17:56.23 | jfindlay | s/yc/y\/c/ |
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| 21:18.01 | levi | eightyeight: I really enjoyed the first few of the WoT books, but that was a long time ago and I have no idea how much I'd enjoy them now. I never finished the series, even the RJ-written ones. |
| 21:18.36 | eightyeight | i only know one person who has completed the entier series, and he's completed it a few times, actually |
| 21:18.43 | eightyeight | i'll complete it before year-end |
| 21:18.56 | levi | I used to read the whole series from the beginning each time a new one came out. |
| 21:19.17 | levi | (I started shortly after "The Dragon Reborn" or whatever the name is was published) |
| 21:19.43 | eightyeight | s/entier/entire/ |
| 21:19.54 | levi | The books slow *way* down. |
| 21:20.18 | eightyeight | yeah. i've heard he introduces a lot of new characters, leaving others on the back burner |
| 21:20.43 | eightyeight | i've heard a total of something like 2400 characters in the whole series |
| 21:20.47 | levi | I will be impressed with your patience if you can keep up the pace necessary to read the entire series in a year. |
| 21:21.02 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:21.22 | levi | Maybe 2400, and a total of 3 that you don't actively hate all the time; just most of the time. |
| 21:21.46 | eightyeight | will finish 'mistborn: secret history' today, then likely start 'the great hunt' tomorrow |
| 21:22.13 | unum | I have a few friends who have completed it |
| 21:22.41 | Jayce^ | once sanderson jumped in it picked up |
| 21:22.42 | unum | I was really burning through them but have slowed down recently |
| 21:23.00 | Jayce^ | the end is a rush, but there are still loose ends when you are done |
| 21:23.23 | levi | There are many series that I can absorb a book in a (long) day of reading, but can't continue past a certain point without feeling really dissatisfied. |
| 21:24.18 | levi | It's like the authors' stylistic flaws and whatnot get amplified by the sheer volume of them that I'm taking in at once. |
| 21:24.36 | levi | I have to take a break before I can enjoy them again. |
| 21:24.50 | eightyeight | it does seem like you immediately identify what you do and do not like in an author's style, and seem to pick those out in every book |
| 21:25.02 | eightyeight | to the point it almost seems formulaic |
| 21:25.07 | eightyeight | at least for me |
| 21:25.20 | levi | Well, I find it's worse when you're reading them back-to-back. |
| 21:25.29 | eightyeight | that's what i mean |
| 21:25.33 | levi | Right. |
| 21:25.40 | levi | I think we're on the same page. |
| 21:25.48 | jfindlay | har |
| 21:26.14 | levi | I started getting that with the WoT books even when I only read them at the pace they came out, though. I can't imagine what it'd be like to try slogging through them back-to-back. |
| 21:26.36 | levi | Maybe it was from all the re-reading of the early ones I did, though. |
| 21:26.41 | eightyeight | i'll keep you posted. although, i've taken a 3-book break since tEofW |
| 21:26.55 | eightyeight | (cryptonomicon is fantastic) |
| 21:26.58 | levi | But if I didn't re-read, I'd often be completely lost at the glacial rate they were coming out. |
| 21:27.27 | levi | eightyeight: Stevenson's books seem to a love-or-hate thing, and I also love them. |
| 21:27.54 | eightyeight | i haven't read any others of his |
| 21:28.42 | RyanE | levi: counterpoint: I didn't love or hate them. I thought they were good, not great (Steelheart series). |
| 21:28.53 | RyanE | I did find them easy to read, which is always welcome. |
| 21:29.30 | Jayce^ | just remember, you really can pretty much skip the middle 1/3 of the WoT and actually be better off for it |
| 21:29.47 | RyanE | the middle 9/10ths would work better for me. |
| 21:29.57 | levi | Sorry, it's Stephenson, not Stevenson. |
| 21:30.34 | RyanE | heh. I read it sanderson. |
| 21:30.47 | RyanE | my reading / speaking skillz are pretty bad today. I should just go home. |
| 21:30.51 | levi | Heh. |
| 21:31.34 | levi | Stephenson has a bit of a stylistic quirk where he goes on these long technical digressions about topics related to the current plot events. Some people really hate that. |
| 21:42.03 | unum | yeah! I generated a letsencrypt cert for an internal server |
| 21:42.17 | unum | it's going to be a real pain if I have to do it this way every three months |
| 21:46.24 | eightyeight | levi: i really enjoyed it when he would go into deep technical discussion |
| 21:46.34 | eightyeight | you could tell that stephenson really enjoys that sort of stuff |
| 21:46.45 | eightyeight | which, for me, made it all the more entertaining |
| 21:51.55 | eightyeight | his dry wit is fun also |
| 21:52.10 | eightyeight | bobby shaftoe was a riot in that book |
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| 22:13.33 | nachocheese | ~nachos |
| 22:13.33 | infobot | schweet. |
| 22:14.28 | nachocheese | ~wiki nachos |
| 22:14.48 | nachocheese | I havent ever used this freenode web interface before |
| 22:14.55 | nachocheese | this is kind of interesting |
| 22:16.10 | jfindlay | do I look weird on there? |
| 22:17.31 | nachocheese | very weird |
| 22:17.43 | nachocheese | I am using a really old back up nick |
| 22:24.30 | Jayce^ | as if there is any doubt as to who is behind the mask |
| 22:24.49 | jfindlay | lol |
| 22:25.03 | jfindlay | the mask of nacho |
| 22:25.05 | jfindlay | ~nacho |
| 22:25.05 | infobot | Do you remember when the people were shouting my name and I used my strength to rip my blouse? |
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| 22:34.17 | nachocheese | lol |
| 22:34.25 | nachocheese | I am running on a temporary machine |
| 22:34.37 | nachocheese | I didnt want to go through the hassle of setting everything up |
| 22:35.02 | nachocheese | Oh, and Congratulation rsimpkins who passed his Technician, General AND EXTRA Class License on Saturday!!! |
| 22:35.16 | rsimpkins | nachocheese: Thanks! |
| 22:35.25 | rsimpkins | I was so nervous. |
| 22:35.31 | rsimpkins | Managed a 92%. |
| 22:35.54 | nachocheese | me too, me too |
| 22:36.11 | nachocheese | So now we're just waiting for Jayce^ and neybar_work to get their General and Extra class? |
| 22:36.30 | nachocheese | Look. If I can do it... ;) |
| 22:37.00 | rsimpkins | Yes, but you are very wise in the ways of the radio. |
| 22:37.44 | nachocheese | eh |
| 22:41.53 | Jayce^ | yeah, maybe this year I'll do it at openwest.. noji is still interested in doing it there |
| 22:42.06 | Jayce^ | speakign of that, need to talk to him again now that it's officially open |
| 22:42.18 | nachocheese | I might be able to be one of the VE's to sign your paperwork :) |
| 22:42.46 | nachocheese | I'm not a VE however... but I think Noji wants me as a back up. lol |
| 22:43.10 | nachocheese | Speaking of HF Radio |
| 22:43.50 | nachocheese | at 0200 I have a scheduled 20 meter and then 40 meter HF Radio digital contact arranged with the German Science Foundation's station down in Antarctica :) |
| 22:43.53 | rsimpkins | nachocheese: I want to do the VE thing too. And a co-worker is wanting to do it as well. |
| 22:44.26 | rsimpkins | nachocheese: I thought you had a big day today with a new job and everything. Does the new employer let you bring the HF gear to work? :) |
| 22:44.37 | nachocheese | rsimpkins if you can swing it tonight, at 0200 UTC, you're welcome to come check it out |
| 22:44.56 | rsimpkins | Oh, at 0200 UTC. |
| 22:44.58 | rsimpkins | Doh. |
| 22:45.10 | jfindlay | nachocheese: what is ur new job? |
| 22:46.01 | rsimpkins | nachocheese: Yeah, I want in on that. Let me check with the live-in permenant girlfriend & mother of my children to ensure my leash will reach that far tonight. |
| 22:49.33 | jlp_znc | congrats on the extra class, guys! |
| 22:49.53 | rsimpkins | jlp_znc: Thank you! |
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| 22:50.02 | jlp_znc | so, has the stigma of the "no code extra" worn off yet? do the no-coders out number the old men now? |
| 22:50.34 | jlp_znc | if I could ever afford an HF rig, I might try for it myself. :-) |
| 22:50.59 | jlp_znc | oh, yeah, and my wife would have to divorce me or die, too. she has a serious ban on big antennas. |
| 22:51.19 | jlp_znc | note: I do not want her to divorce me or die. |
| 22:54.25 | Jayce^ | My biggest blocker for upgrading my license has been the fact that I *know* I'd spend a lot more $$$ |
| 22:54.28 | programmerq | https://www.reddit.com/r/Utah/comments/46o2zm/ex_tah_see/ |
| 22:55.54 | Jayce^ | knew the location, even though I rarely ever in that part of SLC... |
| 22:57.13 | Jayce^ | wow, looks like CA is trying to add Aloe Vera to its list of 'cancer causing chemicals' |
| 22:59.54 | joshh | you can't be too careful |
| 23:01.18 | nachocheese | Today is my first day on the job. I am really digging it. This will be a lot of fun. I also feel like I am going to be able to hit the ground running too, which will be nice. |
| 23:01.37 | joshh | what job |
| 23:02.19 | nachocheese | Sr QA Engineering with Luxul |
| 23:02.41 | nachocheese | Jayce^ ... dont drink Aloe |
| 23:02.43 | shalkie | Awesome. :)_ |
| 23:06.14 | nachocheese | Thanks |
| 23:11.04 | unum | this quick mock up is turning out not to be so quick |
| 23:19.53 | TodPunk | where the hell is youtah these days? |
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| 23:38.47 | nachocheese | youtah ran away TodPunk |
| 23:40.01 | TodPunk | that bastard! he owes me money! |
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| 23:41.40 | rsimpkins | jlp_znc: I think there is still a bit of a clique in the local ham community, but there are enough local geeks that are hams we can really form our own clique. So the old guys can't say much. :) |
| 23:41.55 | rsimpkins | Some day we'll be the old guys, and I hope we'll remember to play nice. |
| 23:41.59 | nachocheese | OMG! I just realized something! There is a 7-11 just around the corner from my new work!!! I freaking love 7-11 Gas Station Nachos! |
| 23:42.11 | rsimpkins | nachocheese: Where is the office? |
| 23:42.18 | nachocheese | Draper |
| 23:42.21 | rsimpkins | Nice. |
| 23:49.32 | TodPunk | nachocheese: where'd you end up? |