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| 01:35.58 | shalkie | Bagels... Get yer Day old left over Bagels here! Bagels... |
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| 02:11.21 | youtah | be right there shalkie |
| 02:11.39 | youtah | shalkie, are you at the LDUG? |
| 02:48.39 | shalkie | Sorry no. I am in Sunnyvale. |
| 02:48.58 | shalkie | wishes he was at LDUG |
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| 05:40.32 | TodPunk | maybe next time, shalkie |
| 07:16.08 | levi | Seriously, come to LDUG next time. :) |
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| 19:25.38 | romanovic | what is this madness http://www.buzzfeed.com/benrosen/how-to-snapchat-like-the-teens |
| 19:26.01 | romanovic | "I would watch in awe as she flipped through her snaps, opening and responding to each one in less than a second with a quick selfie face. She answered all 40 of her friendsâ snaps in under a minute." |
| 19:26.51 | romanovic | "How often are you on Snapchat?" "On a day without school? Thereâs not a time when Iâm not on it. I do it while I watch Netflix, I do it at dinner, and I do it when people around me are being awkward. That app is my life." |
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| 20:28.36 | Tod-Work | romanovic, to be fair, she's DOING more than most people, so she's at least got that going for her. |
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| 20:32.51 | Migs | lol @ Elsbitch |
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| 20:54.44 | romanovic | there's a whole new social convention for communicating the closeness of your friendship ("Depending on the person, the selfie changes. Like, if itâs your best friend, you make a gross face, but if itâs someone you like or donât know very well, itâs more regular."), ostracising people ("Donât reply to weird people. You could reply once, but definitely donât get a streak."), how to snapchat boys without looking desperate ("Donât Snapchat |
| 20:54.44 | romanovic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:16.38 | fadein | romanovic: it's amazing what you can get people to do when there's "points" and "trophies" involved |
| 21:18.46 | fadein | maybe that's how we can bring snapchat down: start up a change.org petition and get the SJWs to pressure snapchat to award points and trophies to everybody equally so guys like "Bitchamin Hoesen" don't feel so left out |
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| 22:29.15 | keldwud | any of you running graylog? I'm learning what I can about it right now and would like to see the various ways it is deployed and try and figure out some of the best practices |
| 22:47.27 | Tod-Work | I've got this CFP in for OpenWest: Javascript for Devs of the Old Code |
| 22:47.43 | keldwud | old code being php and perl, right? :) |
| 22:47.52 | keldwud | or old as in cobol and fortran? |
| 22:48.01 | Tod-Work | I can't decide if it should be a Beginner talk, for those that don't know JS, or Intermediate, for those that have way more experience in other techs |
| 22:48.02 | keldwud | or EVEN OLDER? |
| 22:48.36 | Tod-Work | keldwud, anyone that was coding when we weren't trying to async everything under the sun and have no idea how anything ran |
| 22:48.52 | Tod-Work | So about '99? |
| 22:49.40 | Tod-Work | It's an attempt to fill a serious gap I find: JS tutorials expect you to know about a million buzzwords and culture points already before you ever set foot into "how to use React" |
| 22:50.12 | Tod-Work | "Just use bower to install dependencies and then CommonJS to require them and babel to use ES6 features in Node" |
| 22:50.13 | Tod-Work | wtf? |
| 22:50.29 | Tod-Work | So yeah, this would be for that |
| 22:50.35 | Tod-Work | but again, Beginner, or Intermediate? |
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| 22:50.51 | Tod-Work | I keep waffling |
| 22:57.40 | keldwud | heh |
| 22:57.45 | keldwud | .urban waffle stomp |
| 22:59.18 | fadein | Tod-Work: I'd consider that a Beginner level talk, from the perspective that I'd consider myself a JS Beginner |
| 22:59.37 | fadein | even though I've been using Perl for a very long time, I wouldn't expect that experience to translate very well into JS |
| 23:01.48 | fadein | Maybe your talk description could mention something to the effect of "this presentation is aimed at experienced programmers who are beginners in JavaScript" |
| 23:02.07 | keldwud | that's a good way to put it, fadein |
| 23:02.15 | Jayce^ | I'd say intermediate *IF* you give the "you are already a coder, just adapting to modern JS" |
| 23:02.25 | keldwud | that way you don't have to waste a lot of time covering CS and programming basics |
| 23:02.58 | keldwud | not that that is a waste of time, but I'd rather get that stuff from online and use conferences to dive into stuff that I can't necessarily get into online as easily |
| 23:03.25 | fadein | keldwud: yeah - 50 minutes goes by really quick, so you gotta cut out what you can |
| 23:04.28 | keldwud | I can't wait 'til conferences are all lab based with keynotes interspersed |
| 23:04.30 | keldwud | :) |
| 23:04.43 | keldwud | hey, who wants to put together YANC? |
| 23:05.14 | keldwud | all the talks will be 2 hours of lab exercises with lecture / voice over from the presenter |
| 23:05.38 | keldwud | we can call it yanconf |
| 23:06.31 | Tod-Work | Jayce^, you can't BOTH be right |
| 23:06.54 | Tod-Work | I'm going to need the traditional arena fight to determine which of you to listen to |
| 23:07.28 | Tod-Work | keldwud, this would definitely be aimed at experienced coders |
| 23:07.50 | Tod-Work | what would YANC stand for? |
| 23:11.38 | Jayce^ | how much of your content would rely on "coders that just need which tool to use" vs "we're actually getting into syntax and model discussions" |
| 23:17.02 | keldwud | yet another conference |
| 23:17.04 | keldwud | :) |
| 23:17.22 | keldwud | I prefer syntax and model discussions versus which tool touse |
| 23:17.33 | keldwud | but that's my own personal subjective opinion |
| 23:17.52 | keldwud | when things like docker were hitting the circuit, I did also like the "hey check out this neat tool" |
| 23:18.17 | Tod-Work | Jayce^, it MIGHT have examples of how configs look, but otherwise it would be an exposure to the various tools and how they interact and what workflows can look like. The goal would be at the end you would know what to look into to fit a style you could start working with. |
| 23:18.52 | Tod-Work | My end in the description so far goes: "cover those in enough detail for you to be conversational and you'll be able to read those tutorial articles like a pro javascripter." |
| 23:19.57 | keldwud | if it's a tools talk, I think it would be more appropriate to be labeled for "beginners" |
| 23:22.54 | Tod-Work | tools and concepts to the ecosystem (like bower is called a package manager, but it's really just a package downloader, but you see it called a package manager a lot) |
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| 23:42.15 | keldwud | anybody down for lunch at ikea tomorrow? |
| 23:44.32 | Tod-Work | ikea of all places? |
| 23:44.36 | Tod-Work | craziness |
| 23:44.44 | Tod-Work | has to buy dirt |
| 23:49.48 | keldwud | no lunch at ikea? |
| 23:49.51 | keldwud | it's so good |
| 23:50.00 | keldwud | and cheap as ... umm... something cheap |
| 23:50.37 | Tod-Work | It IS cheap, this is true |
| 23:50.57 | Tod-Work | but seriously, I'll be buying dirt, so no special lunch for me |
| 23:51.13 | Tod-Work | I do like their hot dogs |
| 23:52.16 | keldwud | I'm buying |
| 23:52.21 | keldwud | you bought last time, so it's only fair |
| 23:53.22 | keldwud | man. my graylog is really messed up. all I did was do a wide search for the last hour, clicked on quick values under message and boom. graylog starts sending alerts from every node in the stack |