| 00:00.02 | ricefoodeat | cool |
| 00:00.25 | jfindlay | it's because nobody lives in Utah |
| 00:00.32 | ricefoodeat | its like New MEixco? |
| 00:00.37 | ricefoodeat | big land no people? |
| 00:00.45 | jfindlay | yeah |
| 00:00.51 | ricefoodeat | thats exactly what i want |
| 00:01.21 | ricefoodeat | is it hard to do business there |
| 00:01.25 | ricefoodeat | eg. small...uh pizza shop |
| 00:01.30 | ricefoodeat | or ...small pinball shop |
| 00:01.33 | ricefoodeat | is that stuff out of the question |
| 00:01.39 | ricefoodeat | and only meant for debt investor type people |
| 00:01.46 | ricefoodeat | eg. in virginia |
| 00:01.52 | ricefoodeat | this one chick had a shed and served coffee |
| 00:01.52 | ricefoodeat | tea |
| 00:02.02 | ricefoodeat | it was in parking lot of a big grocery store in small town |
| 00:02.06 | ricefoodeat | she was hustling |
| 00:02.15 | programmerq | I've seen those small shed coffee type places. |
| 00:02.27 | ricefoodeat | i guess those ideas are saturated |
| 00:02.32 | ricefoodeat | but can you do other niche stuff |
| 00:02.48 | programmerq | I don't see why not. the job market in utah is decent. |
| 00:03.07 | ricefoodeat | man....this dude is quaoting me 2000 bucks, delivered, 9.6x40' container, structurally sound |
| 00:03.12 | programmerq | people that come from out of state to visit tend to be surprised at how many "now hiring" signs/billboards/ads they see |
| 00:03.21 | ricefoodeat | programmerq: thats good |
| 00:03.35 | ricefoodeat | programmerq: what is your langauge, im guessing you are old school guru C |
| 00:03.47 | ricefoodeat | and you grew up on BASIC and FORTRAN |
| 00:04.04 | programmerq | heh, not really. I do more devops/sysadmin type stuff and do very little actual programming these days |
| 00:04.07 | programmerq | but python is my language |
| 00:04.54 | ricefoodeat | nicve dude, python is my fav |
| 00:09.17 | ricefoodeat | jfindlay: whats a city name or town up there in north east |
| 00:09.21 | ricefoodeat | im going to google/landwatch it |
| 00:09.24 | ricefoodeat | to see the rate |
| 00:09.41 | ricefoodeat | programmerq: did you go to school |
| 00:11.39 | fungus | ricefoodeat, Logan, Brigham City, Garden City, etc |
| 00:12.06 | jfindlay | ricefoodeat: Logan is a good place to start, but it seems that something like Huntsville might be more of your style: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/198891#map=15/41.2601/-111.7813 |
| 00:12.06 | ricefoodeat | thamkls |
| 00:12.35 | ricefoodeat | whoa you are the first dude |
| 00:12.39 | ricefoodeat | to ever link me OSM stuff |
| 00:12.53 | ricefoodeat | i was using OSM for a moving map ...avionics slave job i had, to make a moving map for some cheapos |
| 00:12.58 | ricefoodeat | thanks jfindlay |
| 00:14.22 | ricefoodeat | my sereach criteria, nothing came up for logan lol, meaning its gonna be i duno...5-10x more expensive |
| 00:14.27 | ricefoodeat | thats my guess |
| 00:14.30 | ricefoodeat | i will search more |
| 00:17.33 | jlp_znc | so that parcel out north of Wendover is pretty close to Lucin. I understand there is a guy who lives there (he has a hangar at the Lucin air strip). |
| 00:17.49 | jlp_znc | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/garden/in-a-remote-part-of-utah-life-alone-in-a-hangar.html |
| 00:18.20 | jfindlay | ricefoodeat: you should let us know how your plans turn out |
| 00:18.41 | jlp_znc | he had a well, paid $100k to pull power in, telco was already on site (since the FAA has a VOR there). bought 400 acres for $90k |
| 00:19.10 | jfindlay | nice |
| 00:19.22 | jfindlay | that almost makes it sound fun |
| 00:19.46 | ricefoodeat | jfindlay: unfortunately, im more of in planning, I need to save up money, ive been slaving so hard but its hard to save! I hope some of my tech projects pay out |
| 00:19.57 | ricefoodeat | jlp_znc: damn thats what up! |
| 00:20.50 | jlp_znc | and there are a few brown people around... my son's brother-in-law is a brown person. :-) |
| 00:22.35 | ricefoodeat | that is good |
| 00:22.51 | jlp_znc | if you bought that 40 acre parcel, you'd be probably 10 miles from him. |
| 00:23.03 | ricefoodeat | jlp_znc: I am going to email him |
| 00:23.09 | ricefoodeat | and ask him 100 questions |
| 00:23.10 | ricefoodeat | now |
| 00:23.12 | jlp_znc | (from the due in Lucin, not from my son's brother-in-law :-) |
| 00:23.22 | ricefoodeat | im tracking down |
| 00:23.26 | ricefoodeat | his contract info now |
| 00:23.37 | jlp_znc | good luck, let us know how it works out for you. plenty of tech work out here. |
| 00:23.52 | ricefoodeat | his name sounds russian, Ivo Zdarsky |
| 00:23.58 | ricefoodeat | thanks dude |
| 00:23.59 | jlp_znc | Czech |
| 00:24.09 | ricefoodeat | ohhh |
| 00:24.14 | jlp_znc | he escaped from behind the iron curtain in 1984 |
| 00:24.20 | jlp_znc | in a plane he built himself |
| 00:24.30 | jlp_znc | no problem, ricefoodeat |
| 00:24.54 | jlp_znc | that article on nytimes is pretty interesting. |
| 00:25.02 | jlp_znc | I'm outta here... catch you later. |
| 00:25.34 | ricefoodeat | http://www.ivoprop.com/ is this him |
| 00:25.35 | ricefoodeat | see ya |
| 00:25.44 | jlp_znc | yeah, that's him |
| 00:25.48 | ricefoodeat | thanks |
| 00:25.54 | jlp_znc | see ya |
| 00:26.09 | ricefoodeat | bye |
| 00:51.17 | ricefoodeat | why yall |
| 00:51.18 | ricefoodeat | go quiet |
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| 01:33.17 | romanovic | ricefoodeat: usually does go quiet around 5pm Utah time, since everyone's on IRC at work |
| 01:33.45 | ricefoodeat | yall need to be on irc all the time |
| 01:33.47 | ricefoodeat | IRC is life |
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| 01:35.58 | romanovic | I would love to be on irc after 5pm, once we have self-driving cars and I can play on my phone on the road |
| 01:36.25 | romanovic | that's one thing I miss about living near a train station |
| 01:45.00 | rainbows | do people not use irc on their phones or just no service |
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| 01:47.48 | TodPunk | IRC on the phone is a terrible thing |
| 01:47.56 | TodPunk | unless you're just lurking, I guess |
| 01:48.01 | TodPunk | but the SNR is just too low for me |
| 01:48.17 | ricefoodeat | i prefer IRC when driving 70 mph on 285 N here |
| 01:51.48 | rainbows | what a rebel |
| 01:51.49 | romanovic | I use IRC on my phone regularly with Quassel, which just connects to a headless session running on a vm somewhere |
| 01:52.13 | romanovic | was nice on Trax when I was going to school |
| 01:53.13 | rainbows | i just use connectbot but i recognize the awesomness of juicessh |
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| 03:38.41 | keldwud | hmmm.. suggestions on ISPs in salt lake county? I just realized I will have to restrict my location to somewhere where I don't have to deal with comcast. I've been spoiled on google fiber so I need to know where to go in slc to get the same experience |
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| 04:25.54 | jfindlay | keldwud: google fiber is going up pretty much everywhere in SLC itself |
| 04:26.10 | keldwud | is that current? or future? |
| 04:26.30 | keldwud | I have them on chat right now and am asking an agent to help me find neighborhoods that will be receiving it |
| 04:26.56 | keldwud | because I really want to live downtown, but utopia is only available in murray and midvale and west valley |
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| 04:39.47 | keldwud | omg, how does salt lake city live off of 7Mbps internet? |
| 04:45.11 | jfindlay | you know the republicans want to take that even lower, right? |
| 04:45.28 | jfindlay | it's like they're not even pretending anymore |
| 04:57.47 | keldwud | lower? |
| 04:57.51 | keldwud | how can it even get any lower |
| 04:58.15 | keldwud | and it makes sense to cripple the most powerful telecommunications tool in the world. it provides too much unchecked freedom |
| 04:58.49 | keldwud | freedom is scary, especially when given to poor people and people with darker skin |
| 04:59.18 | keldwud | so apparently, ISPs don't like to give out maps :( |
| 04:59.42 | keldwud | I'm having to hand check boundary addresses in each zip code to see where centurylink is offering their gigabit |
| 05:00.21 | keldwud | we should find out how much money and how many congressmen pete needs to bring gigabit to salt lake city |
| 05:00.44 | keldwud | and then raise it |
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| 17:07.42 | Tod-Work | pretty sure pashdown wouldn't want to try to lay his own fiber, even if he had the cash. It's a huge, HUGE pain to do, especially in an established municipality, and not just the physical logistics, but all the ridiculous politics |
| 17:08.17 | pashdown | as much as i'd want to manage a sewer line. it better for the city to do. |
| 17:08.31 | Tod-Work | mhmmm |
| 17:09.31 | Tod-Work | I say this having just moved to Lehi, where infrastructure (especially non-business infrastructure) is the last priority ever |
| 17:16.05 | jfindlay | Tod-Work: you mean like having streets where pedestrians don't get killed every day? |
| 17:16.21 | Tod-Work | jfindlay, and also cars can drive |
| 17:16.25 | Tod-Work | like, together |
| 17:16.26 | Tod-Work | at once |
| 17:16.26 | jfindlay | truly |
| 17:16.50 | jfindlay | the road outside my building is a death trap for pedestrians |
| 17:16.53 | Tod-Work | but I do also mean things like internet infrastructure, street lights, etc |
| 17:17.12 | Tod-Work | Hehehe, I live off of timpanogos hwy |
| 17:17.33 | jfindlay | the most angry drivers in the state frequent that road |
| 17:17.34 | Tod-Work | You can walk around the neighborhood, but you can't even get to a convenience store |
| 17:18.25 | Tod-Work | There's also the entirety of the stupidity that is the thanksgiving point exit and its business park |
| 17:18.40 | Tod-Work | who thought that thing was a good idea at any point? |
| 17:19.08 | jfindlay | that's where I am |
| 17:19.11 | Tod-Work | Yes |
| 17:19.15 | jfindlay | it's really a disaster, infrastructure-wise |
| 17:19.28 | Tod-Work | Yet for some reason they put the train station there |
| 17:19.30 | jfindlay | no planning whatsoever |
| 17:19.58 | Tod-Work | "Yeah, people can use public transit here, and then kill themselves in the adjoining street!" |
| 17:20.08 | Tod-Work | "It will be great for the community" |
| 17:20.29 | jfindlay | I've been hit on that road twice |
| 17:20.40 | jfindlay | and survived both times |
| 17:20.47 | Tod-Work | lucky |
| 17:20.52 | jfindlay | I know |
| 17:21.24 | jfindlay | the first time was more like a near miss at low speed, but the second was in the middle of the crosswalk and it really spooked me |
| 17:21.31 | jfindlay | fortunately I only got some bruises |
| 17:22.01 | Tod-Work | I had a near-head-on with a motorcyclist and right before impact I knew he was going to die |
| 17:22.04 | Tod-Work | no helmet |
| 17:22.26 | Tod-Work | He had a bruise on his right arm and some minor scrapes, rolled like a champ somehow |
| 17:23.16 | programmerq | jfindlay: fool me once, shame on you. |
| 17:23.18 | programmerq | ... |
| 17:23.31 | programmerq | ;) |
| 17:24.26 | jfindlay | programmerq: I was in the crosswalk both times, now I cross at a different place with more visibility |
| 17:30.08 | Tod-Work | Three things I want: a Taco Bell, a Chipotle, and Utopia |
| 17:30.23 | Tod-Work | everything else is annoying to me, but I can deal with (because I'm not a pedestrian) |
| 17:32.33 | RyanE | not asking for much, eh? :) |
| 17:33.09 | asoc | Tod-Work: buy a house about 5600s and state. |
| 17:33.18 | asoc | you can have all that within blocks of you |
| 17:33.28 | asoc | 5 blocks* |
| 17:33.37 | Tod-Work | no, then I'd have to live north of the point |
| 17:34.27 | Tod-Work | I also don't care about walkability, I am happy to drive around the corner =cP |
| 17:34.46 | Tod-Work | My parents used to live 3 houses down around our corner, I'd drive as often as not |
| 17:34.51 | Tod-Work | is so lazy |
| 17:43.06 | SunSparc | ~drive Tod-Work |
| 17:43.06 | infobot | ACTION jumps behind the wheel of a specially designed limo & chauffeurs Tod-Work anywhere he/she needs to go, while Tod-Work sits in the back playing bzflag |
| 17:43.28 | Tod-Work | yessssssssss |
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| 18:19.28 | jlp_znc | does anyone play bzflag any more? it used to be a hot thing on this channel, as I recall. |
| 18:19.40 | jfindlay | I played it recently |
| 18:20.31 | jlp_znc | ~bzflag |
| 18:20.31 | infobot | i heard bzflag is a 3D internet multiplayer multiplatform (win32, linux, mac, etc) opensource opengl Battlezone capture the flag game of the same name that you must try at http://BZFlag.org/ or a continual development project with periodic gaming interuptions. See also TimRiker |
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| 18:37.01 | scottymuse | Haven't played bzflag for years. That was a crazy one. |
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| 18:51.34 | romanovic | I also dislike that Thanksgiving point exit. I don't go there often enough to get used to it |
| 18:52.25 | Migs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKrywMKnsUc |
| 18:52.28 | romanovic | "I just need to get to the other side of the freeway. If I drive in this lane OH NO I'M GETTING ON THE FREEWAY" |
| 19:04.08 | unum | hate it when that happens |
| 19:04.40 | unum | ya with the weird on ramps that's a lot easier to do |
| 19:04.54 | unum | when I first moved to salt lake county the SPU's made me nervous now I love them |
| 19:11.42 | SunSparc | Migs: That is pretty sweet. |
| 19:49.19 | spangborn | Wewt. |
| 19:58.59 | RyanE | I like the new ramps. Better than the old ones. |
| 19:59.26 | RyanE | Besides, what's not to love at being able to turn left on a red when it's clear? I get to feel like i'm in the UK, driving on the wrong side of the road... :) |
| 20:07.14 | goozbach | ~ceen cedfelt |
| 20:08.45 | jfindlay | ~napoleon goozbach |
| 20:08.46 | infobot | ACTION takes goozbach's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 20:22.13 | rainbows | wat |
| 20:24.54 | shalkie | Oh dear infobot, that is like going steady. |
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| 21:23.02 | Jayce^ | http://gpuopen.com/ |
| 21:23.13 | Jayce^ | Introducing GPUOpen â an AMD initiative designed to enable developers to create ground-breaking PC games, computer generated imagery and GPU computing applications for great performance and lifelike experiences using no cost and open development tools and software. |
| 21:46.45 | shalkie | So many ads for levitra. |
| 21:47.02 | shalkie | Almost makes having a wordpress site more pain then it is worth. |
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| 23:02.48 | Tod-Work | http://www.mediaite.com/online/u-of-oregon-debates-removing-mlk-quote-for-not-being-inclusive-enough/ How does... I don't... When did.... Huh... |
| 23:03.24 | keldwud | wowee |
| 23:03.43 | keldwud | Tod-Work: can you literally not even right now? |
| 23:03.55 | Tod-Work | for serious |
| 23:04.35 | Tod-Work | I know it's Oregon, but this quote is possibly the most valley-girl thing I've heard all week: âObviously race still plays a big role. But there are people who identify differently in gender and all sorts of things like that.â |
| 23:23.34 | joshh | lol |
| 23:26.15 | keldwud | "you didn't include all of the exceptions!" |
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