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| 17:35.08 | youtah | HEY HEY! |
| 17:35.11 | youtah | Howdy everyone! |
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| 17:45.08 | youtah | ~nachos |
| 17:45.08 | infobot | schweet. |
| 17:53.31 | jfindlay | ~napoleon youtah |
| 17:53.32 | infobot | ACTION tames a wild honeymoon stallion for youtah |
| 17:56.42 | jlp_znc | ~lart youtah |
| 17:56.43 | infobot | cats /dev/urandom into youtah's ear |
| 17:56.51 | jlp_znc | nice one, infobot |
| 17:57.04 | youtah | lol |
| 17:57.17 | youtah | Remember when I did that with packing peanuts to Scott Grimes car? |
| 17:57.27 | jlp_znc | heh heh |
| 18:01.09 | programmerq | youtah!! |
| 18:01.11 | programmerq | welcome back! |
| 18:01.18 | youtah | lol |
| 18:01.47 | keldwud | I'm in SLC this afternoon if anybody is down for lunch |
| 18:01.48 | youtah | since moving to a laptop from a desktop, I don't use irc as often, because it kept disconnecting/reconnecting all the time |
| 18:02.03 | keldwud | and this Wednesday. I need to socialize after spending a year working from home |
| 18:02.04 | programmerq | youtah: use a ZNC |
| 18:02.10 | youtah | I was looking at that |
| 18:02.17 | youtah | but I need to have a place to run it first, lol |
| 18:02.42 | programmerq | raspberry pis are cheap and don't take too much power. |
| 18:02.49 | programmerq | digital ocean's smallest node is pretty cheap |
| 18:02.58 | youtah | but I blew all my money on Ham Radio gear |
| 18:03.05 | youtah | ;) |
| 18:03.46 | programmerq | youtah: then lets get a radio link going and you can access a ZNC on my radio network |
| 18:04.03 | youtah | Perfect |
| 18:04.12 | youtah | I have been doing a bunch of PSK31 btw |
| 18:04.30 | programmerq | what bands? |
| 18:04.47 | youtah | https://pskreporter.info/pskmap?callsign=KG7HSN&search=Find |
| 18:04.51 | youtah | 40 and 20 mostly |
| 18:05.07 | programmerq | those are bands I haven't played on yet. |
| 18:05.15 | youtah | they're fun bands :) |
| 18:05.38 | youtah | I just got a tuner that will tun up to 200 watts for 160 Meters on my 40 meter dipole |
| 18:05.49 | youtah | in theory |
| 18:06.28 | youtah | ~fling jsmith |
| 18:06.28 | infobot | ACTION flings poo at jsmith |
| 18:06.32 | youtah | lol |
| 18:06.38 | youtah | I thought that used to say Nachos |
| 18:07.59 | programmerq | I'm in year 9 of my General license. I've only operated on 2m, 70cm, and done a bit on the wifi channel 1 overlap (hsmm mesh project) |
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| 18:11.03 | youtah | So I got a bunch of wireless access points from my neighborhood |
| 18:11.16 | youtah | We're looking at getting the neighborhood up and online with mesh nodes |
| 18:11.22 | youtah | but half of them done work |
| 18:11.33 | youtah | because they have too little of RAM, etc |
| 18:11.56 | programmerq | I have a big box of antennas for doing that. |
| 18:12.04 | programmerq | I only have two of the wrt54gl routers taht can handle it though. |
| 18:12.31 | youtah | There is a good Mesh Node networking Facebook group for Utah County and Salt Lake County too |
| 18:12.33 | programmerq | there's a node in a nearby neighborhood I can see if I use one of my directional antennas. I figure I'll point at least one antenna that way. |
| 18:12.41 | jlp_znc | I thought the hsmm project switched away from the wrt-54gl APs. |
| 18:12.57 | programmerq | they probably did, but I got them way beck when that was what they were targeting. |
| 18:13.07 | youtah | they are targeting the ubiquity bullets now |
| 18:13.52 | jlp_znc | yeah, I have a wrt-54g with some version of hsmm on it... never hooked it up to a high gain antenna, though. |
| 18:14.07 | youtah | I have a coupe of dishes that have like 39db gain |
| 18:14.16 | youtah | couple |
| 18:14.35 | youtah | keldwud, can't do lunch today. Today is crazy crazy busy |
| 18:14.38 | programmerq | I have 5 rootennas, a couple of cheap chinese yagi antennas, and a few more. |
| 18:15.14 | youtah | so I started kg7hsn.com |
| 18:15.34 | youtah | the one calculator is as far as I have gotten |
| 18:16.20 | jlp_znc | .com? |
| 18:17.03 | youtah | correct |
| 18:17.18 | youtah | I don't think they have a .ham |
| 18:17.20 | youtah | lol |
| 18:18.08 | jlp_znc | surely they must by now... they have everything else. |
| 18:20.23 | jlp_znc | there is .hamburg :-) |
| 18:20.38 | jfindlay | youtah: is the idea to pool everyone's uplinks? |
| 18:20.51 | youtah | yeah |
| 18:21.00 | youtah | and it works really really well |
| 18:21.01 | jfindlay | that sounds awesome |
| 18:21.23 | youtah | there are several guys already running at 1 watt each, and are linking up over 2.4GHz at 30miles+ |
| 18:21.40 | youtah | I think 27 is the longest link right now i SL County |
| 18:21.42 | youtah | in |
| 18:22.16 | keldwud | wait, we have a mesh up and running now? |
| 18:22.19 | keldwud | like, a useable one? |
| 18:22.24 | keldwud | shit, I should put up a node |
| 18:22.25 | jfindlay | do you need clear air for that? |
| 18:25.29 | youtah | you need a ham radio license |
| 18:28.46 | youtah | for more deets, contact david at kf7mcf [at] hotmail [dot] com |
| 18:36.38 | jlp_znc | hotmail? snort. |
| 18:37.34 | jlp_znc | I want to build one of these for hsmm: http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/15/how-to-build-a-wifi-biquad-dish-antenna/ |
| 18:37.53 | jlp_znc | I've got a couple of old DTV dishes. |
| 18:57.20 | jlp_znc | http://people.wallawalla.edu/~Rob.Frohne/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html |
| 18:58.14 | jlp_znc | I foresee myself going "juice" shopping with my trusty measuring tape. "what are you looking for, sir?" "oh, about 4 inches by 8 inches" "I mean what kind of juice?" "I don't really care about the juice... I'm just shopping for the can." |
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| 20:54.19 | youtah | yes, hotmail, lol |
| 20:54.25 | youtah | but not hotmale |
| 20:54.46 | youtah | that's a different kind of site |
| 21:00.45 | RyanE | heh |
| 21:02.03 | jfindlay | youtah is known to add a spectrum of wisdom to #utah |
| 21:02.32 | youtah | keep the shower curtain on the INSIDE of that bathtub |
| 21:03.05 | jfindlay | another astonishing aphorism |
| 21:06.16 | voldemortensen | i wonder how much of this was learned through experience |
| 21:06.30 | youtah | Very gruntled. |
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| 21:36.41 | jlp_znc | hey, youtah, take a look at this guy's mobile station: https://www.qrz.com/db/VE6AB |
| 21:37.16 | jlp_znc | ah, crap, is he gone? |
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| 21:48.38 | shalkie | Youtah! |
| 21:48.46 | youtah | lol |
| 21:48.53 | youtah | It's like a warm welcoming home |
| 21:48.59 | jlp_znc | youtah: you're back! |
| 21:49.05 | jlp_znc | hey, youtah, take a look at this guy's mobile station: https://www.qrz.com/db/VE6AB |
| 21:49.12 | jlp_znc | repeats himself |
| 21:49.31 | youtah | Did I show you the picture of the Car from Ham Fest? |
| 21:49.37 | jlp_znc | not me |
| 21:49.40 | RyanE | no |
| 21:49.41 | youtah | (btw, Ham Fest is OFF the Hook!) |
| 21:49.51 | youtah | laughs as he says that |
| 21:49.52 | jlp_znc | ham fest... like, dayton? |
| 21:49.57 | jlp_znc | or something local? |
| 21:49.57 | youtah | Bryce Canyon |
| 21:50.07 | youtah | Rocky Mountain ARRL Region |
| 21:50.17 | jlp_znc | oh, I remember hearing something about that. |
| 21:50.21 | youtah | I took 1st place in DF finding (fox hunting) |
| 21:50.23 | eightyeight | favorite shot: http://www.jerryclement.ca/HamRadio/HamRadio/i-dNzfwgG |
| 21:50.27 | eightyeight | because you need two watches |
| 21:50.30 | jlp_znc | all the hotel rooms were gone when I looked into it. :-) |
| 21:51.33 | RyanE | probably shouldn't drive in this configuration: http://www.jerryclement.ca/HamRadio/HamRadio/i-MDJfgDW |
| 21:52.00 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:52.06 | youtah | he has 30 meters on that thing |
| 21:52.10 | youtah | either CW or Digital |
| 21:52.16 | youtah | as that's a non-phone band |
| 21:52.21 | jlp_znc | I'm pretty sure it's APRS on HF |
| 21:52.38 | RyanE | yeah, but does he have CW30? |
| 21:52.44 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:53.06 | jlp_znc | I don't know, but I'd bet there's a key (or paddles) in there somewhere |
| 21:53.16 | RyanE | y'know, so he can watch Supernatural and Smallville. |
| 21:53.32 | jlp_znc | oh. yeah. I figured that out after I commented. :-/ |
| 21:53.44 | jlp_znc | :-/\/\/\ |
| 21:53.56 | RyanE | yeah, bad joke. Nice setup. |
| 21:55.12 | youtah | https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11429037_10207191990982330_3695651866116965501_n.jpg?oh=60379667a87366fc7a62d208011b7fe9&oe=57059C72 |
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| 21:55.25 | youtah | https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12191968_1496522243974723_2471978131864249036_n.jpg?oh=7691beedb38b7fe1d187c8dbb18537c1&oe=5747A1CD |
| 21:55.39 | youtah | https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11755185_10204213454845426_6759165252375678776_n.jpg?oh=4550e9adbf8d2330a83fdb136164f0b3&oe=57121341 |
| 21:56.26 | youtah | https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/10981704_10207574554146170_3337481836967362449_n.jpg?oh=43c6aabb6328f5f419ed11bed4275bba&oe=570706C5 |
| 21:56.29 | youtah | ^^ BOOM! |
| 21:56.48 | jlp_znc | apparently can't see those from here :-( |
| 21:56.58 | youtah | Noooooooooooo |
| 21:57.37 | jlp_znc | ahh, facebook. that's probably why. |
| 21:57.50 | youtah | yeah, has to be a network setting |
| 21:57.55 | jlp_znc | there has been some effort to get the dev network out from behind the webfilter, but it hasn't happened yet. |
| 21:57.57 | youtah | that's their open CDN |
| 21:58.02 | jlp_znc | I find that bizare things don't work. |
| 21:58.22 | youtah | apparently I don't have the photos on this machine |
| 22:01.10 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: first image: http://www.qsl.net/w0jt/2004-08-UHF/DSCF1034.JPG |
| 22:01.48 | eightyeight | second image: https://daithilife.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/russian-jamming.jpg?w=620&h=300&crop=1 |
| 22:02.04 | jlp_znc | nice antenna! |
| 22:02.07 | youtah | ^ lol, yes |
| 22:02.14 | youtah | thank you eightyeight |
| 22:02.21 | eightyeight | 3rd image: http://up.autotitre.com/a5d81e73e3.jpg |
| 22:02.29 | jlp_znc | I like the bugout truck, too |
| 22:02.56 | jlp_znc | I think I've seen that third one, but instead of antennas, it was little gnome figures glued all over it. |
| 22:03.19 | jlp_znc | yes, it was at a walmart parking lot. |
| 22:04.52 | RyanE | those *were* antennas. |
| 22:04.55 | youtah | you know which states are ridiculously hard to contact for some reason? The states right around us |
| 22:04.58 | RyanE | glorious, glorious gnome antennas |
| 22:05.16 | eightyeight | youtah: not really |
| 22:05.19 | youtah | I still need Nevada, Idaho, Colorado, Montana |
| 22:05.26 | eightyeight | youtah: loop antennas are great in this situation |
| 22:05.35 | youtah | or NVIS |
| 22:05.44 | youtah | I only have dipoles |
| 22:05.48 | eightyeight | put it parallel to the ground, so it's firing straight up then bounces back down |
| 22:06.06 | youtah | have a 60' cherry picker? lol |
| 22:06.39 | jlp_znc | you ned to work some satellites |
| 22:06.44 | jlp_znc | s/ned/need/ |
| 22:06.51 | eightyeight | you could EME also |
| 22:07.40 | youtah | I did just build my own vertical 10M antenna |
| 22:07.47 | youtah | I need more ground radials first |
| 22:10.21 | youtah | btw, I am looking at JT65 and JT9 for EME, Meteor Scatter & Aurora work |
| 22:10.49 | jlp_znc | gotta be quick for meteor scatter. no time for chatting. |
| 22:11.42 | youtah | Well, it only sends 13 characters at a time |
| 22:21.49 | youtah | I have no idea how I got Wyo. Must have luckily contacted the one horse in the entire state that knows how to work a radio. |
| 22:28.02 | jima_ | youtah: i was going to joke that it was brett glass, but it appears that he's...not exactly friendly with the ham community: https://twitter.com/brettglass/status/498937817058140161 http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200205/msg00425.html |
| 22:29.42 | jfindlay | youtah: you mean bison? |
| 22:29.54 | youtah | it would interfere with WISP.... ha! |
| 22:30.41 | youtah | He assumes that 2.4 is ONLY for wireless access points |
| 22:30.59 | youtah | mesh is in a completely different portion of the same band |
| 22:31.03 | jima_ | he has some strange sense of entitlement with a number of topics. |
| 22:31.20 | youtah | should I start an internet fight with him? |
| 22:31.29 | jima_ | oh god |
| 22:31.35 | youtah | ROFL |
| 22:31.46 | jima_ | leave my name out of it, please. i minced words with him on nanog...last year, maybe? |
| 22:31.57 | youtah | He's in Laramie |
| 22:32.01 | youtah | I went there once |
| 22:32.04 | youtah | horrible idea |
| 22:32.15 | jima_ | the topic came up with eightyeight a while back (he had some kind of interaction with brett, too) |
| 22:32.28 | jima_ | we passed through when we were moving from minnesota |
| 22:32.34 | eightyeight | brett glass. ugh. |
| 22:32.36 | jima_ | i've avoided it since |
| 22:32.37 | RyanE | there's no hothead like an Internet hothead. :) |
| 22:32.38 | jima_ | eightyeight: haha |
| 22:32.57 | eightyeight | jima_: thx. i had forgotten about him until you brought him up |
| 22:32.58 | jima_ | eightyeight: i discovered another hot-button issue for him! |
| 22:33.01 | eightyeight | oh? |
| 22:33.06 | jima_ | ham radio! |
| 22:33.11 | youtah | ham's using 2.4 |
| 22:33.12 | youtah | LOL |
| 22:33.28 | eightyeight | "channel 0" is in the amateur spectrum |
| 22:33.40 | youtah | Oh you know... I am just going to run 1500 watts next to your wifi |
| 22:33.46 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 22:33.51 | jlp_znc | moar powr! |
| 22:33.53 | eightyeight | winning |
| 22:33.54 | jima_ | let's stream netflix over ham radio in the 2.4ghz spectrum something something net neutrality! |
| 22:34.10 | youtah | ^ SO winning |
| 22:34.12 | eightyeight | if he hadn't blocked me, i would totally push that button |
| 22:34.16 | jima_ | (brett's head explodes) |
| 22:34.22 | jlp_znc | have you seen some of those amazing 2.4GHz antennas that people build? |
| 22:34.44 | jima_ | eightyeight: i don't know what his beef was with you, else i'd have integrated into the epic trolling better. |
| 22:34.59 | youtah | "Hi Brett, my name is Jeff. I don't know you. 2.4 is for HAMS. Oh, and Jima and eightyeight say hello" *mic drop* |
| 22:35.03 | eightyeight | i'm a freesoftware gnutard |
| 22:35.14 | RyanE | oh, and wyoming sucks |
| 22:35.29 | eightyeight | so, that means i hate brett glass personally, because he writes proprietary software |
| 22:35.35 | eightyeight | logical conclusion, of course |
| 22:35.38 | jima_ | he does? |
| 22:35.42 | jlp_znc | http://www.wired.com/2007/06/w_wifi_record_2/ <- from 2007 |
| 22:35.46 | eightyeight | gets the thread |
| 22:35.50 | jima_ | i used to be a freesoftware gnutard |
| 22:35.58 | jlp_znc | 237 miles |
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| 22:36.21 | jima_ | my urge to not have a depressing dead-end job overrode any affinity toward free software :-\ |
| 22:36.40 | youtah | WYO sucks. NV Blows. Makes Utah windy |
| 22:37.01 | jima_ | s/wind/happ/ |
| 22:37.41 | eightyeight | jima_: 11:20:06 <grant> eightyeight: lance talked with <avgear> 2 days ago and they said they wanted us to do the migration and that they'd call in to make payment but it looks like that still hasn't happened. I'll ask lance. |
| 22:37.43 | eightyeight | gah |
| 22:37.48 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/brettglass/status/675338821131624449 |
| 22:37.56 | jima_ | haha |
| 22:38.04 | jima_ | damnit lance |
| 22:38.21 | eightyeight | yeah. uhm. ignore that. >_< |
| 22:38.44 | jima_ | (funnier yet is that i just sent an email to a lance, probably a different one) |
| 22:39.43 | RyanE | I think I'd hate the guy just from that twitter icon. |
| 22:39.52 | jima_ | haha |
| 22:40.23 | eightyeight | he's "special" |
| 22:40.30 | eightyeight | he has a "sweet spirit" |
| 22:40.41 | eightyeight | he has "potential" |
| 22:40.50 | eightyeight | thinks of other non-threatening insults |
| 22:40.52 | jima_ | i love the "air quotes" |
| 22:40.54 | RyanE | potentially psychopathic |
| 22:41.12 | RyanE | he's "unique" |
| 22:42.00 | eightyeight | does a better job of making sure what is in and not in his clipboard buffer |
| 22:42.13 | eightyeight | while thinking about it, i wonder if there's a utility for automatically clearing it after a timeout |
| 22:43.00 | jima_ | looks like my flight path next week will probably pass 20mi north of laramie. i'll be sure to salute. |
| 22:44.13 | jima_ | eightyeight: on the OMG PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE WHICH YOU HATE front, keepass nukes the clipboard x seconds after you copy a password, so there's precedent. |
| 22:44.13 | eightyeight | jima_: take a beam antenna, and an amplifier, and uhm, don't use it during flight when you happen to be over laramie |
| 22:44.23 | jima_ | (oh wait, looks like keepass is open source, tee hee) |
| 22:44.26 | eightyeight | <3 keepass |
| 22:44.27 | RyanE | especially on 2.4GHz |
| 22:44.53 | jima_ | eightyeight: commercial flight. i think i'd be in trouble for other reasons. |
| 22:45.18 | eightyeight | i don't know what you're talking about |
| 22:45.39 | RyanE | yeah, you'd get in trouble. All those passengers using aireline-provided WiFi couldn't watch their Netflix. |
| 22:45.46 | RyanE | all the call buttons would light up except yours. |
| 22:46.33 | jlp_znc | "I don't know what the problem is.. the captain said we could use our wifi now." "not with a cantenna pointed out the window!" |
| 22:46.49 | jima_ | don't be ridiculous. i'd hit my call button after about half the people did. |
| 22:48.01 | jfindlay | reminds me of working on UU campus. The building I was in had some kind of funky tinting on the windows, which made them much more electromagnetically opaque in the short wave broadband than the walls, so I got much better transmission when I moved the antenna away from the window |
| 22:48.20 | jima_ | fun! |
| 22:48.32 | RyanE | It's OK, stewardess. It's "Ham Justice(tm)"! |
| 22:48.45 | jima_ | mmmm, ham justice. |
| 22:48.50 | eightyeight | speaking of pressing buttons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmI-hGthrwA |
| 22:48.54 | RyanE | honeybaked ham justice |
| 22:56.05 | romanovic | http://www.citylab.com/navigator/2016/01/kids-independence-free-range-parenting/423168/ |
| 22:57.16 | romanovic | "The provision declares that nothing will 'prohibit a child from traveling to and from school on foot or by car, bus, or bike when the parents of the child have given permission.'" |
| 23:04.43 | youtah | https://letsencrypt.org/ |
| 23:04.47 | youtah | Have you guys seen this? |
| 23:05.21 | RyanE | it was mentioned around here a few times. |
| 23:05.35 | jlp_znc | doesn't it only give you two month certificates? |
| 23:05.44 | youtah | yeah |
| 23:05.46 | RyanE | there's a renewal process. |
| 23:05.55 | youtah | but they have pre-scripted ^ |
| 23:05.56 | youtah | yeah that |
| 23:06.03 | youtah | setup a cron job and done |
| 23:06.09 | jlp_znc | hm |
| 23:06.57 | youtah | just run `letsencrypt` |
| 23:07.35 | jlp_znc | I've been using CAcert, but it's still not in any browsers to speak of. |
| 23:08.45 | jlp_znc | I'm "known", so I can get two year certs instead of the default six month ones from CAcert, but if letsencrypt is in the common browsers, I might switch. |
| 23:09.03 | voldemortensen1 | I got letsencrypt in working on my bluehost shared account. |
| 23:09.12 | voldemortensen1 | s/in // |
| 23:09.34 | youtah | This is good to know voldemortensen1 .... did you have to do anything special? |
| 23:09.40 | *** join/#utah Guest19207 (~T4rku5@170-72-57-90.vivintwireless.net) |
| 23:09.54 | jlp_znc | so how does letsencrypt make money? |
| 23:10.09 | youtah | You find a bunch of backers? |
| 23:11.30 | voldemortensen1 | youtah: I ran the validation on a separate server and transferred the cert files over. |
| 23:19.26 | youtah | Ah! |
| 23:24.51 | voldemortensen1 | You do have to contact an L2 to get the cert installed. Perk of working at bluehost is I can just do it myself. |
| 23:31.41 | programmerq | voldemortensen1: so every 3 months, you'll switch your DNS to the other server, rerun the letsencrypt client, and then manually install the cert? |
| 23:31.59 | programmerq | might be better off just using a startssl free cert (those are good for one year) |
| 23:32.10 | voldemortensen1 | I didn't have to switch dns at all. |
| 23:32.20 | programmerq | which validation method did you use? |
| 23:32.25 | voldemortensen1 | manual |
| 23:33.13 | programmerq | how does manual work? does it end up emailing your whois contact? |
| 23:33.41 | voldemortensen1 | It gives you a file to upload. Similar to how google analytics verification works. |
| 23:33.49 | programmerq | ah, understood |
