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| 05:33.55 | shalkie | unum: Once upon a time there was in instructor that would travel and tell people of the wonders of linux where ever he went. At night he would set the systems to folding protiens and leave them running even after he left... |
| 05:34.21 | shalkie | s/was in/was an/ |
| 05:36.02 | shalkie | For some reason someone named their Wifi "Princess Gamma" |
| 05:37.06 | rainbows | lol |
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| 15:23.27 | jima | rainbows: thanks for breaking my brain for a moment...someone i know (from efnet, mind) has been using that nick since 1997 or so. ;-) |
| 15:26.19 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 15:26.22 | infobot | Sweet! That's like a dollar an hour! |
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| 15:35.43 | Tod-Work | efnet was the other sane one, right? Dalnet was the sexy one, espernet was/is the furry one, and freenode is the open source one. |
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| 15:48.01 | programmerq | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=37017126&nid=148 - I remember seeing the video the dog owner took when he got home after getting a call that his dog was dead. |
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| 15:55.40 | Tod-Work | I love that former SLC mayor is representing him. That's hilarious. |
| 15:57.09 | programmerq | I don't know anything about mayor rocky |
| 15:58.15 | Tod-Work | Neither do I, nor do I think it matters |
| 16:00.42 | jlp_znc | efnet was the other sane one, yes. efnet stood for "eris-free net". eris was a machine at UC Berkeley that basically had an open server connect line (so you could connect any IRC server to it without a password). |
| 16:01.23 | jlp_znc | this meant that anyone could nick collide and boot anyone else off of the network by pretending to be a server and typing specific commands down the server link to eris. |
| 16:01.48 | jlp_znc | I think we used to call the IRC net that eris was a part of "anarchy net" or something like that. |
| 16:02.24 | jlp_znc | http://www.irc.org/history_docs/TheGreatSplit.html |
| 16:04.49 | unum | you must be one of the out of stater if you know nothing about rocky |
| 16:05.46 | unum | he held protests against bush when he came to town, he sued to block the legacy highway, he created protest zones on church property(kind of) during conference, he ran for president |
| 16:05.57 | RyanE | rocky sat behind me on a plane once. talked the *whole* time... :| |
| 16:06.07 | jfindlay | lol |
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| 16:27.38 | SunSparc | Save the clock tower! I mean... the Jail!!! |
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| 16:44.18 | programmerq | unum: I am not from utah. grew up in Indiana. |
| 16:44.45 | fungus | I'm sorry |
| 16:45.27 | programmerq | I have lived in utah since 2007, effectively. I was a college student down at BYU for his last year in office, so SLC politics weren't exactly on my radar. |
| 16:45.30 | jlp_znc | IF Task="Involves Electricity in Any Way" OR Device="Has Circuit Board" |
| 16:45.30 | jlp_znc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.30 | jlp_znc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.31 | jlp_znc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:04.39 | SunSparc | When in doubt, call the IT department, eh jlp_znc? |
| 17:05.51 | jlp_znc | pretty much |
| 17:06.00 | jlp_znc | http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1244186-what-task-have-you-done-while-thinking-this-is-sooo-not-an-it-task |
| 17:06.08 | jlp_znc | the comments are priceless. |
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| 17:14.08 | SunSparc | IT guys are the MacGyvers of the tech world. |
| 17:19.30 | unum | I've never lived in salt lake, in fact I lived in Logan when Rocky was mayor, but it was heard not to hear about him |
| 17:19.37 | unum | any ways back on topic |
| 17:19.53 | unum | I have cli program that ouputs some formatted text |
| 17:20.04 | unum | when I redirect it to a file it's all on one line |
| 17:20.16 | unum | but if I allow it to display to screen it shows up on several lines |
| 17:20.34 | unum | any idea what is going on? |
| 17:20.40 | jlp_znc | what language is it written in? |
| 17:21.06 | jlp_znc | it's probably checking if it is talking to a tty and if so, trying to grab the tty width from stty or environment. |
| 17:21.23 | jlp_znc | how do you want it? on several lines or all on one? |
| 17:21.42 | jlp_znc | if on several lines, try your_program | fmt > file |
| 17:22.05 | unum | on severaly |
| 17:22.05 | jlp_znc | (par is a little better than fmt if you have it, but you should definitely have fmt) |
| 17:22.48 | unum | beautiful, thank you |
| 17:26.07 | unum | every day I find my self more and more tempted to try and start and open source replacement for this product |
| 17:26.16 | unum | I guess there already is one I really should take a look at it |
| 17:26.51 | jlp_znc | what's the product? |
| 17:27.17 | unum | survent it's from a company now called survox(used to be CFMC) |
| 17:27.33 | unum | it's data collections software for doing surveys |
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| 17:27.58 | unum | they have a command line version, a cate over web version, and a web version |
| 17:28.24 | unum | it's seems like you could do a rest api built around postgresql |
| 17:28.41 | unum | and then build a bunch of different clients for different uses |
| 17:29.42 | unum | we could afford to hire atleast two more senior developers if we could replace it |
| 17:31.01 | unum | I can make requests for different data from this program, the data is displayed on different screens, so I request for it to print screen a,b,c,d, or e |
| 17:31.22 | unum | I was able to redirect screen b no problem |
| 17:31.44 | unum | but screens a,c,d, and e were coming out on one line |
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| 17:31.55 | unum | but format fixes those, so thank you |
| 17:33.53 | goozbach | every week I still learn or re-learn about a coreutil which kicks copious amounts of ass |
| 17:34.10 | rainbows | jima: I have not been around since 1997 only 2009 |
| 17:34.46 | jlp_znc | problem is you need to hire the two developers to build the new solution first. :-/ |
| 17:34.55 | jima | rainbows: yeah, the other obvious things were that she's not in utah, and doesn't go on freenode. |
| 17:34.59 | Migs | just use unpaid interns |
| 17:35.55 | jlp_znc | goozbach: try to learn how to use pr some time. that thing is pretty amazing, but very obscure. |
| 17:36.35 | jlp_znc | I used to use it to columnize lists. |
| 17:37.22 | rainbows | jima: i am not in utah |
| 17:37.39 | rainbows | i want to go to utah so i wanted to see what the utah channel was like first |
| 17:37.40 | jima | :-| |
| 17:37.49 | jima | oh, ok |
| 17:38.04 | jima | the actual utah is friendlier than the channel, honest. |
| 17:38.09 | jima | well, usually. |
| 17:38.40 | rainbows | I am from california i am mostly worried about finding a job in tech there and the snow |
| 17:38.50 | rainbows | i hear you have snow there |
| 17:38.59 | jima | i keep hearing that |
| 17:39.18 | jima | i'm from minnesota, so the reports that we have snow here are...underwhelming. |
| 17:39.27 | shalkie | goozbach: Where is your coreutils awesomeness postings? |
| 17:39.37 | rainbows | aww |
| 17:39.39 | goozbach | shalkie: I need to |
| 17:39.42 | goozbach | shame on me |
| 17:39.56 | rainbows | I think snow might be fun but I might turn into the marshmellow man |
| 17:40.06 | jima | rainbows: oh no, it's great, i hated how much snow we got in minnesota. |
| 17:40.27 | programmerq | yeah, the lower in the valley you are, the less snow you get. |
| 17:40.37 | jima | yep |
| 17:40.46 | programmerq | rainbows: where in california? |
| 17:41.11 | rainbows | Huntington Beach |
| 17:41.14 | jlp_znc | jima: I lived in Duluth. I've seen snow. we really don't get that much here. |
| 17:41.29 | programmerq | it isn't silicon valley here, but there is always plenty of tech jobs around. |
| 17:41.30 | jlp_znc | and ice. we don't get much ice. |
| 17:41.35 | programmerq | cost of living is much lower here |
| 17:41.44 | shalkie | I complain about snow and sjansen looks at me oddly and points out that until I spend a winter in North Dakota I don't know what Winter is. |
| 17:42.07 | jima | jlp_znc: yeah, i only lived in the twin cities. i wouldn't have wanted to live up nort'. |
| 17:42.08 | rainbows | lol |
| 17:42.26 | jlp_znc | heh, we used to joke about "why not Minot? reason... it's freezin'" |
| 17:42.40 | jima | oh man, no kidding. |
| 17:42.54 | jima | my father-in-law was from fargo...he doesn't seem to miss the midwest, either. |
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| 17:43.28 | programmerq | rainbows: so the last two winters I have only needed to shovel my driveway once or twice per season, but I can always head up to the mountains if I want to go skiing. |
| 17:43.54 | jlp_znc | but rumor has it we are really going to get dumped on this winter. |
| 17:44.01 | programmerq | we certainly need it. |
| 17:44.02 | jlp_znc | I don't know who started that rumor, but I like persisting it. |
| 17:44.25 | rainbows | programmerq: what part of Utah do you live? |
| 17:44.27 | programmerq | it's an el nino season, and depending on where the border of the effect is, it could swing either way for us. |
| 17:44.39 | jima | programmerq: yeah, the map i saw was...ambiguous for us. |
| 17:44.46 | programmerq | rainbows: I'm in utah county. most of us in this channel are going to be within an hour drive of salt lake city |
| 17:44.47 | jlp_znc | I spent most of my formative years in Montana. it didn't snow often there, but it would typically snow by the first week of October and it would sit on the ground until late May. unless we had a chinook wind. |
| 17:45.21 | programmerq | rainbows: I lived out in the inland empire area for a bit about a decade ago. I never made it down to orange county though. |
| 17:45.34 | jlp_znc | so when exactly did "el nino" become a thing? I remember hearing nothing about it for most of my life, and then all of a sudden it was the only thing talked about. |
| 17:45.40 | rainbows | programmerq: I used to live in rancho Cucamonga |
| 17:45.47 | programmerq | and now, I visit the SF bay area somewhat frequently since my company is based there. |
| 17:46.21 | jlp_znc | now, "Rancho Cucamonga" is a great name for a town. I would love to live there just to be able to write it down as part of my address. |
| 17:46.21 | programmerq | jlp_znc: so last cycle, el nino was discussed heavily as a newly (better?) understood phenomenon |
| 17:46.36 | programmerq | the cycle before that, supposedly weather folk were pretty much like wtf? the whole time |
| 17:46.42 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 17:46.54 | rainbows | I heard el nino was only going to add 3-4inches |
| 17:46.58 | programmerq | and before that, 'twas a savage time when whether folk survived with only an almanac and a greenscreen |
| 17:47.01 | programmerq | shrugs |
| 17:47.07 | programmerq | I'm making stuff up now |
| 17:51.41 | programmerq | honestly, I'd love for there to be a couple feet of snow all at once. |
| 17:54.23 | rainbows | I wanted to go because seasons sound fun |
| 17:54.40 | rainbows | Also its been 100+ here |
| 17:55.18 | rainbows | is melting |
| 17:56.45 | programmerq | this week is pretty cool |
| 17:56.55 | programmerq | 55 right now |
| 17:56.59 | programmerq | not quite time to ditch shorts |
| 17:58.55 | rainbows | I was there in September and I liked it so much I just wanted to come back. |
| 18:00.50 | rainbows | Also you wear shorts in 55 degrees |
| 18:00.56 | rainbows | thats sweater weather |
| 18:01.19 | jima | rainbows: 100+ here isn't so bad, because the humidity tends to be low |
| 18:01.46 | jima | 100+ in minnesota...kill me now. |
| 18:02.19 | rainbows | Oh thats good. I have had 91% humidity lately |
| 18:02.25 | rainbows | Luckily I have a pool |
| 18:02.45 | jima | my last week in mn was like 95f with 97% humidity...or was it the other way around |
| 18:03.06 | rainbows | D: |
| 18:03.23 | jima | move here and it was like 100 and...so much more comfortable. |
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| 18:04.15 | unum | irc my secret weapon |
| 18:04.24 | unum | it's really nice for those questions I don't know how to ask google |
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| 18:05.43 | rainbows | unum: i like it. |
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| 18:30.46 | milkmaid | Hey |
| 18:37.38 | rainbows | hi |
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| 18:38.56 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 18:38.56 | infobot | Wait, I forgot the crystals. |
| 18:42.54 | jfindlay | so, chromium's build tool is called 'ninja' :-) |
| 18:46.57 | shalkie | I just found out about Insomnia to inspect REST API: http://insomnia.rest/ |
| 19:03.00 | goozbach | what! |
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| 19:16.52 | SunSparc | Whoa! a curl ui?! |
| 19:17.28 | SunSparc | That looks like cheating... |
| 19:17.30 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:27.26 | milkmaid | Where in Utah |
| 19:27.40 | jsmith | I've been using something like that for quite some time -- a Chrome extension called DHC |
| 19:27.47 | jsmith | Insomnia is a much better name, admittedly |
| 19:28.15 | jsmith | jfindlay: You mean, one of the many Chromium build tools -- I think they're up to three or four different tools now :-( |
| 19:28.55 | jfindlay | lol |
| 19:29.58 | jfindlay | jsmith: obligatory: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html |
| 19:31.19 | jfindlay | also, chromium-46.0.2490.71-lite.tar.xz is 250 MiB |
| 19:31.32 | jfindlay | whereas palemoon-25.4.1-source.7z is 81 MiB |
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| 19:32.23 | jsmith | jfindlay: I see your blog post and raise you a YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRk97h1FLow |
| 19:32.28 | jfindlay | as much as I hate how mozilla plays jealous catchup to whatever the chrome monkeys do (hence palemoon) I figure it's better to use the image of evil than evil itself |
| 19:32.44 | jsmith | jfindlay: (You can skip the first three minutes of "Cloudy cloud cloud") |
| 19:33.24 | jfindlay | cool |
| 19:34.56 | jfindlay | in this case a copy of the image of evil; also note the 'lite' in the chromium dist name :-/ |
| 19:52.34 | SunSparc | shalkie: Thanks for that link. Insomnia is pretty sweet! |
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| 20:25.59 | unum | turns out fmt was working as well as I thought |
| 20:26.02 | unum | it was closer |
| 20:26.04 | unum | but not quit |
| 20:26.24 | unum | now I'm using substr to get everything where I need it |
| 20:29.37 | unum | hmm that's not going to work |
| 20:29.39 | unum | blah |
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| 20:51.31 | romanovic | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/19/microsoft_openssh_code_release/ |
| 21:06.05 | jlp_znc | unum: you can try convincing your program that it is talking to a tty. try running it with unbuffer. |
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| 21:41.58 | goozbach | gotta love alan hick's drawl |
| 21:42.16 | goozbach | the folloin wuz recorded... |
| 21:52.37 | RyanE | This sounds just a bit familiar: http://www.halfarsedagilemanifesto.org/ |
| 21:54.59 | programmerq | ...yeah... |
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| 21:59.26 | romanovic | took me a min to parse that url in my mind ("hal farse dagi lemani festo? hal farsed agi le manifesto?") |
| 22:06.44 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:09.05 | romanovic | where I work, I feel we are currently interpreting "Individuals and Interactions over processes and tools" as "Individuals performing manual tasks over processes and tools that automate things" |
| 22:10.17 | romanovic | I mean, we automate _some_ things, but at every step between development and production, there is a manual human bottleneck |
| 22:13.58 | rainbows | automate yourself out of your job |
| 22:14.16 | rainbows | but be so good they keep you nyway just in case |
| 22:15.25 | rainbows | i have a friend who did that he gets 3hr lunches |
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| 22:43.56 | RyanE | I could have 8hr lunches if I wanted. |
| 22:43.58 | RyanE | :) |
| 22:44.06 | RyanE | of course, I wouldn't get paid. |
| 22:44.41 | RyanE | TL;DR: "We're going to completely support this new paradigm by doing exactly what we were doing before." |
| 22:45.16 | programmerq | I saw a /r/redditwritesseinfeld prompt the other day. something along the lines of "George starts a new job, discovers the last guy had written a program to finish the work for the day in one click." |
| 22:45.36 | programmerq | "George enjoys increasing praise from management, but then accidentally deletes the program." |
| 22:46.14 | RyanE | There used to be a website that had Seinfeld plotlines. Some were quite good. |
| 22:46.52 | programmerq | that subreddit has some funny stuff. the last several months have all been uber/tinder/appxyz related. |
| 22:47.32 | programmerq | elaine feels all important now that she has been trusted with a company charge card. also, she starts playing candy crush on her phone. |
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| 23:10.31 | goozbach | https://twitter.com/seinfeldtoday |
| 23:42.53 | eightyeight | https://i.imgur.com/qaHFEsW.jpg |
| 23:53.43 | rainbows | just dont let her dance |
