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| 02:37.09 | shalkie | joshh: The checkin to the hotel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOBcK9QACjE |
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| 03:31.49 | goozbach | 1k by friday? I'm trying to find $30-40k in two weeks! |
| 03:33.02 | keldwud | you buying a house? |
| 03:33.16 | keldwud | I hear Tod-Work has one for sale :) |
| 03:33.29 | keldwud | hey goozbach, how's your infosec knowledge? |
| 03:33.45 | goozbach | we're building a house |
| 03:33.52 | goozbach | keldwud: fair to middlin' |
| 03:34.38 | keldwud | goozbach, oh that sounds like fun! (not sarcastic) |
| 03:35.01 | keldwud | I'm trying to figure out how my browser points to a fake bank website when I browse to uccu.com |
| 03:35.11 | keldwud | it is localized to one system |
| 03:35.24 | keldwud | doesn't happen to browsers on a VM |
| 03:35.38 | keldwud | I want to locate my vulnerability and fix it |
| 03:36.17 | keldwud | I'm running a scan now but I doubt it will pick up anything |
| 03:43.46 | shalkie | ifconfig.me in a browser might be able to indicate if your being routed through a proxy. |
| 03:45.11 | keldwud | I'll check that, thanks shalkie |
| 03:45.36 | keldwud | what I really wanna figure out is how I made myself vulnerable to it so that I don't do it again. |
| 03:50.28 | keldwud | okay that is so weird. |
| 03:50.45 | keldwud | the behavior is no longer present |
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| 15:21.07 | Jayce^ | proxy, fake domain, resolv.conf, etc all could do it |
| 15:28.00 | bregalad | ~napoleon |
| 15:28.00 | infobot | Pedro offers you his protection. |
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| 15:41.37 | jlp_znc | ~moss |
| 15:41.37 | infobot | I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style. |
| 15:46.41 | jlp_znc | ~roy |
| 15:46.41 | infobot | Shut up, do what I tell you, I'm not interested; these are just some of the things you'll be hearing if you answer this ad. I'm an idiot and I don't care about anyone but myself. P.S. No dogs! |
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| 15:48.46 | Tod-Work | LDUG tonight! |
| 15:59.43 | SunSparc | ~ldug |
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| 16:11.04 | SunSparc | Too bad I do not live in Lehi. |
| 16:19.45 | RyanE | Microcontroller Meetup tonight! |
| 16:19.53 | RyanE | and, not in Lehi! :) |
| 16:21.00 | bregalad | what about macrocontrollers? |
| 16:22.10 | shalkie | I think the saying is that if you take care of the microcontrollers the macrocontrollers will take care of themselves. |
| 16:23.17 | shalkie | If anyone goes out to Virginia Beach, VA I would recommend the Route 58 Deli. It is a bit expensive but I have gotten three meals out of one entree. |
| 16:23.45 | shalkie | groans from to much food |
| 16:23.52 | Jayce^ | https://github.com/h2o/neverbleed |
| 16:24.05 | SunSparc | Sounds like the Beto's breakfast burritos. :D |
| 16:38.48 | jalbretsen | I hear there is a big meetup on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday in SLC this week |
| 16:39.45 | T4rku5 | jalbretsen: it's best if you go incognito. |
| 16:42.48 | jalbretsen | A lot of people do. I expect lots of harley quins and 11th doctors on the Front Runner |
| 16:42.54 | RyanE | bregalad: http://www.meetup.com/MakeSaltLake/events/214788702/ |
| 16:43.33 | RyanE | oops, that was an old one: http://www.meetup.com/MakeSaltLake/events/224206645/ |
| 16:48.29 | shalkie | jalbretsen: What, no Vulcans this year? Are the trekkies out of favor? |
| 16:55.37 | shalkie | Or Elves? |
| 16:57.35 | RyanE | Shortage of Latex to make Ears? :) |
| 17:05.54 | jalbretsen | I'm sure there will be some. I saw all sorts of outfits at FanX |
| 17:06.09 | jalbretsen | 80's He-man and She-ra |
| 17:06.15 | jalbretsen | for example |
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| 17:48.36 | bregalad | what is everyone's favorite ubuntu fork? |
| 17:48.50 | bregalad | if you had to setup a desktop, what would you use? |
| 17:49.06 | jlp_znc | I hear Mint is pretty good. |
| 17:51.21 | bregalad | haha, they atvertise mate, cinnamon, xfce, and kde derivatives on their website |
| 17:51.29 | Tod-Work | bregalad, xubuntu, unless it's a laptop, then I'd just kill myself |
| 17:51.33 | bregalad | does anyone see anything obvious with that? ;) |
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| 17:52.00 | Tod-Work | no? |
| 17:52.20 | asoc | I have used Zorin and the reason I love it is that it is the reason my grandpa doesn't call me as often for computer "problems" |
| 17:52.54 | RyanE | I used Mint on my wife's new computer, she likes it. |
| 17:53.32 | asoc | He even had a guy help him install some Windows software and it worked great out of the box since it has wine and playonlinux configured by default |
| 17:53.51 | bregalad | asoc: that's cool |
| 17:53.57 | asoc | The guy helping him was hopeless since he didn't even notice he wasn't on Windows |
| 17:54.01 | bregalad | I should set that up on my neighbor's computer |
| 17:54.12 | SunSparc | likes his Ubuntu to be pure. |
| 17:54.26 | Tod-Work | oxymoron? |
| 17:54.35 | asoc | I did it after he was worried about what to do after XP went out of support |
| 17:54.54 | asoc | It even has a windows 7 and XP interface modes to facilitate the changing from windows |
| 17:55.04 | RyanE | Mint for Dummies |
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| 18:34.33 | programmerq | I've been thinking about getting a cheap ultraportable (like in the $300.00 range). The baytrail systems look perfect, except most of them don't really run linux that well. complaints include keyboard not working, wifi being inefficient (with closed source driver as the only option) and power hungry, and camera just plain not working. |
| 18:35.47 | programmerq | https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/ASUS_Transformer_Book_T100TA/ - as an example |
| 18:36.09 | programmerq | my next thought is that it should be possible to run normal ubuntu on a chromebook, but I don't see too many guides for getting it done. :/ |
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| 19:38.55 | jlp_znc | new round pebble watches coming out. |
| 19:39.06 | jlp_znc | maybe you can run ubuntu on that, programmerq? |
| 19:43.23 | programmerq | only if it comes in an 11.6 inch version |
| 19:43.36 | jlp_znc | might be a little uncomfortable on the ol' wrist. |
| 19:46.30 | SunSparc | http://i2.wp.com/venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/huawei-ascend-mate-11.jpg |
| 19:48.38 | SunSparc | Actually this: http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Neptune-Pine-ho-820x420.jpg |
| 19:49.18 | programmerq | I guess I rooted my HP 7 Plus G2 |
| 19:49.24 | programmerq | it's an x86_64 android |
| 19:49.36 | programmerq | just run an x server and bring my own BT keyboard/mouse |
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| 20:34.44 | Tod-Work | programmerq, I think you want netubuntu? |
| 20:34.47 | RyanE | Here's what you need if you have a Pebble Time or Pebble Time Steel.... https://blog.adafruit.com/2015/09/23/a-breadboard-for-pebble-smartstrap-lovers-wearablewednesday/ |
| 20:47.16 | programmerq | Tod-Work: hmmmm, most info I can find on "ubuntu netbook edition" seems to be from several releases ago. |
| 20:47.37 | Tod-Work | it's probably not a separate release anymore. I've been out of that game for a while, sorry |
| 20:47.42 | programmerq | no worries. |
| 20:47.57 | programmerq | I should probably figure out other ways to reduce the amount of junk I'll be carrying around. |
| 20:48.02 | Tod-Work | I know if your chromebook runs on an x86 chip it's easy. If it's an arm chip it's more work. |
| 20:48.23 | programmerq | Tod-Work: that has been my guess as well |
| 20:48.23 | Tod-Work | I'd still prefer a full laptop any day of the week, or a Surface Pro 3 *drools* |
| 20:48.48 | Tod-Work | I hear bad things about system76 these days, though, and then theres Lenovo... so.... |
| 20:49.12 | romanovic | Tod-Work: bad things? system76? |
| 20:49.19 | romanovic | was thinking about buying his next laptop from there... |
| 20:49.27 | programmerq | system76 looks like they start at $600.00 / 14" size |
| 20:49.34 | programmerq | I want something like 11.6" |
| 20:49.37 | Tod-Work | yeah, just bad build quality for the price (it IS a high price for the hardware) |
| 20:49.59 | Tod-Work | If I wanted a linux laptop specifically I'd just get a mac and put Ubuntu on it |
| 20:50.06 | programmerq | and, I've been eyeballing some of the cheaper lenovos, but haven't found too many posts about throwing ubuntu on them. I'll still keep looking. |
| 20:50.27 | programmerq | linux doesn't run as well on current gen macs last I checked |
| 20:50.29 | programmerq | :( |
| 20:50.29 | Tod-Work | They're actually quite affordable for their hardware these days, oddly enough (I don't like this fact, but I can't argue with it) |
| 20:50.40 | Tod-Work | as well as what, a chromebook? |
| 20:51.01 | programmerq | hmmm fair point |
| 20:51.09 | programmerq | things like wifi and webcam are problematic across the board afaict |
| 20:51.11 | Tod-Work | I can't speak for the LATEST gen, but a year ago's macs run Ubuntu just fine |
| 20:51.21 | romanovic | who is the preferred apple-tax-free laptop manufacturer who officially support a linux distro? Dell? |
| 20:51.22 | Tod-Work | We have a dude here that has one |
| 20:51.25 | programmerq | the webcam doesn't work with the late 2013 rmbp I have |
| 20:51.29 | programmerq | that's what I've read anyway |
| 20:51.57 | Tod-Work | weird, not sure what you want to use a webcam for regardless, but I'd assume something out there has it doing something |
| 20:52.02 | Tod-Work | maybe it's just not NSA approved? |
| 20:52.07 | programmerq | heh |
| 20:52.11 | programmerq | there's some alpha driver |
| 20:52.36 | programmerq | basically, last time I carried my 4.4kg laptop around at a conference, it really tweaked my back. |
| 20:53.03 | programmerq | so I'm considering getting a <$300.00 thing, and I don't think windows will do what I want in that pricerange. |
| 20:54.58 | jlp_znc | http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2015/05/13/selfie-arm/ |
| 20:55.28 | programmerq | oh, I remember seeing that a while back. |
| 20:55.36 | RyanE | that's officially an oldie but a goodie now, from May... |
| 20:58.51 | Tod-Work | programmerq, I'm going to be brutally honest here, I don't think anything <$300 will do what you want, unless what you want is just a terminal to a box elsewhere, in which case anything will do what you want, but so will an MCU with a keyboard |
| 20:59.15 | programmerq | yeah, that's kind of what I was afraid of |
| 20:59.41 | programmerq | crazy I know, "run linux" and "has drivers that work" is a tall order. :( |
| 21:00.07 | Tod-Work | to be fair, it's only recently that such a thing has even been remotely feasible in DESKTOP |
| 21:00.16 | programmerq | oh I wouldn't say that |
| 21:00.22 | programmerq | I ran linux desktop for years and years |
| 21:00.26 | Tod-Work | Two words: nvidia ati |
| 21:00.39 | programmerq | nvidia's drivers have worked very well for me over the last decade. |
| 21:00.42 | programmerq | ati not so much |
| 21:00.47 | Tod-Work | they flip-flop |
| 21:01.23 | programmerq | I remember feeling a little bitter when they split the supported GPUs out to different packages. it was really nice when <any nvidia card> needed the same driver |
| 21:01.51 | programmerq | but that's my worst memory of it all. |
| 21:02.38 | Tod-Work | nvidia has options, which is nice, ati less so. nvidia has I think two completely open drivers of varying quality |
| 21:03.03 | Tod-Work | but again, it wasn't long ago that you did in fact have to make sure linux supported your desktop hardware |
| 21:03.27 | Tod-Work | or you'd get to play the "what features do I not have" thing with stuff like hard drive controllers, oh, we don't get DMA with that one |
| 21:03.48 | Tod-Work | or ACPI |
| 21:03.48 | programmerq | yeah-- laptop problems I've read about include poor wifi chip support (nonexistent or severely underoptimized binblob type stuff), trackpad presenting as a ps2 mouse (no gesture support), and keyboard not working without a non-standard driver (mostly on the 2-in-1 type setups) |
| 21:04.41 | Tod-Work | I'd still suggest OSX as a good stable unixy environment, but I also know who I'm talking to |
| 21:05.00 | programmerq | yeah, have osx, just looking for an excuse to buy a cheap toy really |
| 21:05.20 | Tod-Work | This is, ultimately, why I have my Surface. Nice tablet, good support for everything I need to run, and I can terminal into my server to do dev |
| 21:05.34 | Tod-Work | well, dev I can't do on it directly |
| 21:05.56 | programmerq | yeah, since I want to carry this thing out to a conference floor, I need to be able to do some basic local stuff |
| 21:06.07 | programmerq | so I'd at least need something beefy enough to run a VM |
| 21:06.33 | programmerq | or run linux natively reasonably well |
| 21:06.44 | Tod-Work | My friend that goes to LDUG with me every time uses a 4 year old Macbook Air as his daily driver and does all sorts of serious dev work on it. levi can attest he's not using it as a lightweight box |
| 21:06.52 | Tod-Work | it's not a cheap toy though |
| 21:07.04 | programmerq | nope |
| 21:07.19 | Tod-Work | if you're doing like ZFS dev stuff, it's definitely not going to work, though |
| 21:07.20 | Tod-Work | obviously |
| 21:07.31 | programmerq | no, I'm mostly going to be running some docker stuff |
| 21:07.58 | programmerq | basic native docker stuff has basically no overhead (negligible) |
| 21:08.19 | programmerq | so as long as I'm not firing up resource heavy processes in the containers, I can show off pretty much anything docker |
| 21:08.47 | programmerq | technically I could do the same on a windows device, assuming my wifi connection in stable. unfortunately, I won't be able to depend on conference wifi. |
| 21:09.35 | programmerq | I might bump up my pricerange a bit and get a model with 4gb of ram, and just run windows 10 |
| 21:09.51 | programmerq | that should be able to handle a single linux VM and suffice for my temporary needs |
| 21:10.05 | programmerq | beyond that, it'll be an extra windows device to test things on. |
| 21:34.25 | programmerq | it looks like the chromebooks are closer to "normal" hardware-- I was under the impression that those booted more like android does. |
| 21:34.45 | programmerq | so installing ubuntu on a chromebook does look easier-- assuming that they are similar across brands. |
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