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| 15:18.00 | shalkie | Well, it seems someone didn't want to be here and we didn't successfully stop them. What a shocker. |
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| 15:27.55 | programmerq | shalkie: or maybe you did. :) |
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| 16:47.32 | fadein | wayrc_: you may have meant to say /part |
| 17:27.10 | bregalad | ~nacho |
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| 20:55.38 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/17/efficiency-up-turnover-down-sweden-experiments-with-six-hour-working-day |
| 21:01.46 | jalbretsen | Lazy bums. They should work more hours instead. |
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| 21:26.26 | romanovic | That wouldn't surprise me too much in the software world, since much fewer than 8 hours a day are productive anyway, as far as cognitive tasks go |
| 21:31.39 | RyanE | yeah, only 6 hours would really cut into my lazing around and surfing time. |
| 21:39.09 | jalbretsen | Should do a Sweden + China combo. Cut hours AND hire cheerleaders for development |
| 21:39.36 | jalbretsen | http://kotaku.com/in-china-women-hired-to-motivate-computer-programmers-1725573574 |
| 21:42.21 | shalkie | Don't they say that France is one of the most productive european countries with a shortened work week and long holidays? |
| 21:48.17 | RyanE | yeah, "most productive", but that's only the *employed* workers... They also have a very high unemployment rate. |
| 21:48.31 | RyanE | fewer workers doing the same jobs == more productive. |
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| 21:53.13 | unum | and everyone else gets to sit back and drink wine and eat cheese? |
| 21:53.52 | shalkie | OALUG meeing announcemnet: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/oalug/UXBJvjenq6A/4QmehN8jAwAJ |
| 21:54.14 | unum | I was reading quite a bit about unemployment rates recently, it's interesting how hard that is to calculate |
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| 21:57.38 | shalkie | RyanE: Well 10.4 percent according to Wikipedia. Same table says the US is 5.3. Germany is 4.7. |
| 21:58.23 | shalkie | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_unemployment_rate |
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| 21:59.24 | RyanE | Yep. IANAEEOEE (I am not an economic effects of employment expert). :) |
| 22:04.06 | shalkie | This article on working time is qoute a 2011 report that germany has an average work week of 25.6 hours. |
| 22:04.22 | shalkie | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time |
| 22:04.59 | shalkie | And they are apparently strict about hours of operations and most employees get 6 weeks of vacation. |
| 22:05.01 | shalkie | http://businessculture.org/western-europe/business-culture-in-germany/work-life-balance-in-germany/ |
| 22:10.15 | unum | supposedly most of the cost of an IPhone is paid to germany not China |
| 22:10.24 | unum | but I've had a hard time find a second source for that figure |
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| 22:23.50 | unum | I remembered wrong |
| 22:23.53 | unum | http://www.upworthy.com/that-iphone-in-your-pocket-youd-be-surprised-where-the-money-goes-when-you-buy-it |
| 22:23.57 | unum | mostly japan |
| 22:24.11 | unum | I have no reason you should believe that source |
| 22:24.35 | unum | maybe it's the manufactoring equipment that comes from germany |
| 22:25.05 | unum | hmmm I found a wall street journal article about it, but it doesn't have those break downs |
| 22:26.33 | bregalad | most of the really good industrial equipment comes from Germany or Switzerland in my experience |
| 22:28.10 | unum | the point of that diagram was to show that we weren't losing manufacturing jobs to low paying china, but to high paying germany, and japan |
| 22:32.37 | unum | http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AI-BH243_CHIPHO_NS_20101215141002.jpg |
| 22:32.40 | unum | fonud his source |
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