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| 12:25.01 | eightyeight | i created my own non-cryptographic 256-bit hashing function. partially inspired by pearson hashing: http://ae7.st/p/41v |
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| 14:54.58 | Tod-Work | eightyeight, I too get bored sometimes, but I usually just read something or go talk to someone |
| 14:55.41 | Tod-Work | frostyfrog, for what? Is an AWS free tier box not good enough? |
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| 15:35.36 | bregalad | ~linux |
| 15:35.36 | infobot | Is there tech support by phone available for my Linux, Ubunto? |
| 15:44.12 | frostyfrog | Tod-Work: Nah, that's not it. I just want a full dedicated box that I can play with different technologies (Like virtualization) and learn from them. How they work, etc. This isn't necessarily the kind of knowledge that I can use now, but it's more of an exploration of technologies in an offsite location. |
| 15:45.33 | frostyfrog | (I also use a lot of disk-space) |
| 15:48.35 | frostyfrog | I do have a 2U server that I kind of use for that purpose along with filling it's drives, but it isn't remote. Looked at a co-location thing with XMission, but the prices that I saw were a bit much for a personal server. $100/m would be more ideal if I had a business, but not for personal uses. |
| 15:52.53 | programmerq | frostyfrog: Most folks that want to play with virtualization seem to build a homelab from what I can tell. |
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| 16:13.29 | shalkie | frostyfrog: I love XMission and would highly recommend them, but have you considered https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/dedicated/ ? Price is cheap, though the ToS can be a bit strict. |
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| 16:35.42 | unum | I looked at coshosting for a while then went with a vps, wish I would have done that sooner, but I don't think that really allows for palying with virtualization |
| 16:36.15 | unum | die ftp die!!!!! |
| 16:37.26 | eightyeight | people still use ftp? |
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| 16:45.56 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/axelk/status/621352271150977025 |
| 16:46.31 | frostyfrog | Shockingly? Yes, they do. |
| 16:47.21 | Tod-Work | frostyfrog, I pay $40/month with vi.net |
| 16:47.21 | frostyfrog | There are few cases where it is useful, though the first thing that comes to my mind is tftp, which is useful for pxe booting. |
| 16:47.32 | Tod-Work | 3 month increments |
| 16:47.45 | Tod-Work | it's a 1U in the Bluffdale datacenter, though |
| 16:47.53 | Tod-Work | 2U is going to be more regardless |
| 16:48.02 | Tod-Work | (plus I own the server, so there's savings there) |
| 16:48.08 | RyanE | In NSA's datacenter? :) |
| 16:50.18 | Tod-Work | RyanE, I don't know if i'm allowed to say.... |
| 16:50.21 | Tod-Work | (no) |
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| 16:50.54 | RyanE | heh |
| 16:51.01 | RyanE | it *is* a largish datacenter in Bluffdale. |
| 16:52.37 | Tod-Work | I'm in a sub-cage of the C7 datacenter there, and it's a sister-company to Westhost. |
| 16:52.41 | frostyfrog | x3 Yeah, I had been looking at $50/month from chicagovps. Thank you for the cheaper alternative, shalkie! :) |
| 16:55.46 | programmerq | shalkie: what are the strict TOS issues on the wholesaleinternet service? they seem to list a few specific things like "no IRC servers" and "no emulators" |
| 16:56.01 | programmerq | their TOS seems like it was written by a technical business person, and not by a lawyer. |
| 16:56.41 | Tod-Work | programmerq, in general it seems very "We don't want no trouble, and if we think there might be any, we're blaming you and shutting you down asap" |
| 16:56.51 | Tod-Work | so anything they don't like |
| 16:57.00 | programmerq | makes sense. |
| 16:57.05 | shalkie | Oh, it has been a while since I read it but I was thining of hosting a couple peoples sites and they were a bit to stringent on their anti-spam policy. Not that they were spam sites, but I read it similiar to Tod-Work's analysis. |
| 16:57.05 | Tod-Work | if a pirate has ever used it, it's off limits |
| 16:57.34 | programmerq | their pricing seems competitive with VPSes of comparable power, |
| 16:57.39 | programmerq | but I can virtualize |
| 16:57.40 | shalkie | Other then that it seemed very reasonable. |
| 16:57.42 | programmerq | or run anything I want |
| 16:57.53 | programmerq | signs up for the $29.00 plan to run reactos |
| 16:58.19 | shalkie | Haha! NT will rise again! |
| 16:58.21 | shalkie | :) |
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| 17:20.41 | frostyfrog | may sign up for that plan and install Arch with the LTS kernel. |
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| 17:21.34 | levi | Tod-Work: I used to work in the C7 Bluffdale building. |
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| 17:22.30 | levi | frostyfrog: 'Arch' and 'LTS' in the same sentence? That must be an error. ;) |
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| 17:23.38 | frostyfrog | levi: Nope. They have an LTS version of the Linux kernel in their repos. As far as the AUR, there is grsec-linux and grsec-linux-lts. :) |
| 17:24.04 | Tod-Work | hahahahaha |
| 17:24.16 | Tod-Work | "we're for like, serious production use and stuff" |
| 17:24.24 | Tod-Work | "we've got an LTS version and everything" |
| 17:24.42 | bregalad | lol |
| 17:25.15 | frostyfrog | xD My use case isn't production, it's for testing and experimenting. Who cares if my stuff goes down? So long as I can ssh into the box, I'm fine. |
| 17:29.26 | levi | I like Arch, I use it on my laptop, but that's mainly because I like up-to-date and minimally-molested packages and I *don't* want support. |
| 17:31.40 | bregalad | 'minimally-molested packages', excellent |
| 17:32.11 | RyanE | you not only don't want support, you just want to be left alone. :) |
| 17:36.33 | frostyfrog | On a completely serious note: Apparently some people do use Arch in production. The main thing that they were waiting on was package signing which was implemented a few years ago. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Server#Arch_Linux_as_a_server_OS https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Enhance_system_stability |
| 17:38.48 | frostyfrog | "[snip] its commitment to simplicity in configuration [snip] the use of unpatched upstream source code." These two reasons are why I love to use Arch. |
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| 18:21.24 | programmerq | levi: I use the LTS kernel on arch on my VPS. |
| 18:21.31 | programmerq | means I have to reboot less |
| 18:22.29 | programmerq | I've been wanting to swap it out for something else. |
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| 18:32.49 | levi | In some situations, I mostly want an OS to be a stable substrate managed by someone else upon which I can maintain all the things I care about the interactions between. I'd not consider Arch for this unless there was a lot of really new stuff I needed and I expected to be in heavy development mode for a long time. |
| 18:33.54 | levi | But in a situation where I want to be able to tinker with the OS and customize things at that level and keep everything pretty much up-to-date, Arch is great. |
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| 18:35.30 | programmerq | yeah, I chose arch because it is good at keeping my on my toes |
| 18:35.37 | programmerq | I don't want to be on my toes anymore |
| 18:37.26 | harleypig | Isn't there a way to have ssh tell you which key it used to connect to a remote server? |
| 18:37.54 | harleypig | it's not ssh -v (or -vv or -vvv or -vvvv or ...) |
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| 18:43.19 | programmerq | I thought -vvv would mention the fingerprint when presenting a public key? |
| 18:46.29 | harleypig | There it is. I was looking for fingerprint, but it doesn't say that, it says sign_and_send_pubkey |
| 18:47.26 | fungus | debug1: Offering DSA public key: /home/olsonl/.ssh/id_dsa |
| 18:48.29 | harleypig | fungus: grepping for Offering gives all keys you have in your agent. Doesn't do me any good. |
| 18:48.53 | fungus | ah yes, that too. |
| 19:06.54 | bregalad | ~napoleon |
| 19:06.54 | infobot | Girls only like guys who have great skills: Nun-chuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. |
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| 19:11.59 | frostyfrog | Yeah... Also, IMO. pacman > yum. I just had yum update it's repository cache when I was uninstalling a package. I mean, wat?! yum shouldn't need an internet connection to attempt to uninstall packages :( |
| 19:12.21 | frostyfrog | Anyways, I think I'm done with talking about Arch for now. |
| 19:12.53 | eightyeight | yum is the fail |
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| 19:12.59 | eightyeight | glad fedora/rh are moving away from it |
| 19:15.57 | goozbach | harleypig: force it with -i ? |
| 19:18.07 | harleypig | Not for this case. I have a user who is unable to push to a git repo from a remote machine, but he can from another. I'm kind of grasping around for ideas ... knowing which key is being accepted may tell me something. *shrug* |
| 19:18.41 | harleypig | But I watched secure on the git server and found out which key is being accepted. |
| 19:18.48 | harleypig | It didn't do me any good. |
| 19:19.04 | harleypig | ssh-add -l on the problem machine lists the key as one of the options. |
| 19:20.03 | harleypig | But now I know it's not a problem with my server! So I'm only a few steps away from being able to say "You're one your own!" |
| 19:29.32 | programmerq | http://www.theonion.com/article/toddler-unsettled-whatever-possessed-her-bite-frie-50861 |
| 19:59.26 | levi | Midly amusing story about software patents: |
| 19:59.54 | levi | Lars Bak was the tech lead for Sun's HotSpot VM, and Sun filed several patents based on his work on it. |
| 20:00.11 | levi | Google later hired him to be the tech lead for the V8 VM. |
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| 20:00.50 | levi | Oracle, after acquiring Sun, sued Google for Bak's work that apparently violated his own patents. :P |
| 20:01.15 | frostyfrog | Oh dear! x3 |
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| 20:20.03 | shalkie | I just got an email that was really just a jpeg. Because why say it in text when you can put it in a jpeg and require people to view the graphic. >:( |
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| 20:21.25 | unum | shalkie: did they send the graphic or just link to it? |
| 20:21.42 | shalkie | Mime attachment. |
| 20:21.57 | unum | nice |
| 20:22.12 | unum | you see linking a lot so that they can count you |
| 20:22.20 | unum | mime attachments not so much |
| 20:22.32 | unum | probably had a graphic designer create it |
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| 21:22.01 | romanovic | at least it wasn't text inside of a jpeg inside of a .doc |
| 21:29.56 | RyanE | inside of a .zip |
| 21:33.06 | unum | you get those mailed to you as well? |
| 21:33.36 | unum | I'm pretty sure you can paste a screen shot directly into thunderbird.... |
| 21:34.02 | programmerq | I used to be a little more inclined to be harsh when I was much younger in my career. I'd make people type things out instead of even look at a screenshot. |
| 21:34.58 | programmerq | although, at BH, I could truthfully explain that we didn't have office. |
| 21:35.06 | programmerq | I just failed to mention we did have libreoffice |
| 21:35.20 | programmerq | I remember someone inside the company sent out a .doc to everyone. |
| 21:45.37 | shalkie | The heretics! |
| 21:45.52 | shalkie | :D |
| 21:58.59 | shalkie | I love how long the state legislature held on to distributing things in word perfect format. |
| 22:00.30 | Jayce^ | fedgov is bad, release pdf's of jpg'd text so you can't search/index/etc |
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| 22:17.22 | unum | I tried to convince them to switch to odf at one point |
| 22:17.34 | unum | actually so did novel's lobbyist who is now a state rep |
| 22:18.32 | unum | happy jade helm day(belated) |
| 22:18.46 | unum | I can't believe I missed the memo that it was jade helm day yesterday |
| 22:19.26 | programmerq | I asked my HOA for a copy of the covenants that wasn't jpg'd text |
| 22:19.29 | programmerq | they said they didn't have it |
| 22:22.25 | levi | Some of you will find this interesting: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084827/trivia?item=tr1381623 |
| 22:24.40 | bregalad | the rest of you have no interest |
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