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15:32.44bregaladwhat if you have a small kitchen sink?
15:33.50eightyeight~linux
15:33.50infobotIs there a system of Linux for Mobile HTC s630 Instead of Microsoft Windows 6?
15:36.48eightyeighthttp://www.linux.com/contact is just comedy gold
15:37.08eightyeight"hello, I'm looking for pricing (quotation) for lunix redhat 6 system on 4 server , number the users who access the system 6500"
15:42.37eightyeight"I HEARD ABOUT LATELY IAM INTERESTING IN PURCHASING A LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM ON CD PLEASE FORWARD CD COST AND HANDLING COST TO MY EMAIL ADDRESS,AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.THANKS"
15:43.33eightyeightit just goes on and on
15:45.00*** topic/#utah by eightyeight -> Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds
15:45.56eightyeight~seen herlo
15:45.58infobotherlo is currently on #uphpu (1d 19h 11m 10s), last said: 'http://www.meetup.com/UtahTechEnthusiasts/events/223205684/'.
16:07.34frostyfrogAnd that is why I don't like websites built off of blogging platforms.
16:12.35asocThere are some really crazy posts there. I wonder about their truthfulness.
16:30.40eightyeightmeh
16:30.51eightyeighti've seen some amazing sites built from wordpress
16:40.54bregaladlunix
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16:42.47bregaladwordpress likes to bundle in adware that hooks into seo kinds of things that you have to be careful to remove if you care about your site
16:43.30bregaladlike mysite.com/marketing/wordpress-is-great-for-you#here's-why showing up in web searches for yoursite.com
16:43.54T4rku5eightyeight, did you offer a decent price for the linux CD?
16:44.20eightyeightbregalad: what are you talking about?
16:44.27eightyeightT4rku5: i was outbid
16:45.01bregaladeightyeight: wordpress seems to bundle promotional materials on sites that use it
16:45.13eightyeightlike what?
16:45.20bregaladunless you explicitly remove it
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16:46.10bregaladeightyeight: everything under portfolio/
16:46.42eightyeighto.0
16:47.05bregaladgo to any random wordpress site http://site.com/portfolio/branding-concept/ for example
16:47.22eightyeightthis isn't built into wordpress
16:47.41eightyeightsounds like a 3rd party plugin
16:48.30bregaladcould be, but portfolio/* is advertising wordpress, not a 3rd party
16:49.04bregaladhttps://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=portfolio%2Fbranding-concept
16:49.23eightyeights/could be/it is/
16:49.53bregaladok, you're going to have to do more than a s/// to convince me you're right :)
16:50.10eightyeightyou mean like downloading the source code?
16:50.29bregaladI'm sure those sites are hosted
16:50.39bregaladby wordpress or someone else
16:50.42eightyeightagain, not a wordpress problem
16:51.05bregaladwhy are you so adamant to defend wordpress?
16:51.40unumbregalad: why are you adamant to attack it ?
16:51.44eightyeightlatest wordpress source: http://ae7.st/p/554
16:51.59unumactually I think there are plenty of valid attacks on it, just not the one you are currently making
16:52.15bregaladunum: I'm sorry if I appear that way, I'm only trying to assert that I actually have seen what I have seen :)
16:52.18unumI've installed wordpress and it's not there
16:52.24eightyeightwordpress doesn't ship "adware that hooks into seo"
16:52.43bregaladthat's good to know
16:52.46Tod-Worklevi, http://opengarages.org/handbook/
16:52.50unumit may be a common package on hosted sites
16:53.02unumbut wasn't installed when I did apt-get install wordpress
16:53.06bregaladthat seems like that's what it is
16:54.26bregaladunum: I'm just generally getting pessimistic about companies based on an open source project/community
16:55.27bregaladmozilla, for example baking in data harvesting into the browser itself
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17:20.55bregaladsorry for getting everyone upset
17:21.00bregalad~linux
17:21.00infobotIs there tech support by phone available for my Linux, Ubunto?
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17:44.10eightyeighti wasn't upset
17:44.26eightyeightjust trying to understand why you thought wordpress was shipping adware
17:45.05eightyeightif you had said moveable type instead, i probably would have believed you
17:47.55Tod-Workyou wouldn't like eightyeight when he's upset
17:48.00Tod-Workor something
17:48.13eightyeighti probably wouldn't like me if i got upset
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17:48.18eightyeightthankfully, i'm pretty laid back
17:48.21Tod-Workdo you like you anyway?
17:48.31eightyeighti think so
17:48.33Tod-Workgood
17:48.38bregalad~nacho
17:48.38infobotNACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo....!
18:19.35leviSo, it turns out there's a 'rationale' document that was published along with C89 and C99 specifications. It's pretty interesting.
18:21.33leviTod-Work: I think only one of my cars is new enough to have anything interesting going on over CAN. :)
18:22.20Tod-Worklevi, was the rationale "we really don't know what we're doing, but we have to do something to appear progressive?"
18:22.31Tod-Work</snark>
18:22.40Tod-Work</for_now>
18:30.00leviNo, it's mostly "We spent a lot of time thinking about how to make these small improvements to existing practice without breaking anyone's code more than absolutely necessary."
18:31.11leviAnd lots of, "Everone was already extending the language to do this in not-quite-compatible ways, so we added a standard way to do it."
18:37.17jsmithlevi: Ah, good ol' CAN bus... it seems I was working on it about fifteen years too early
18:37.50jsmithlevi: To be honest, it's kind of surprising to read about all the cool new things being done on the bus
18:41.05bregaladit is the can do bus after all
18:42.20levijsmith: Well, I think the automakers generally want to move away from it now except for the lowest-cost peripherals at the edges of car networks.
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