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| 00:43.11 | keldwud | Pontifier, I'm digging the plan |
| 00:43.23 | keldwud | how much support do we need to make it more of a reality? |
| 00:43.32 | keldwud | and is the meeting tomorrow the final and only chance to make it happen? |
| 00:44.12 | keldwud | wait, is the old prison the old juvenile detention center!? |
| 00:44.59 | RyanE | Yeah, think so. |
| 00:45.05 | RyanE | by that big church, off State St. |
| 00:45.18 | RyanE | but I hadn't associated it with there until you said it... :) |
| 00:45.54 | keldwud | yeah, I did some "time" there :) |
| 00:46.10 | keldwud | I should go do some urban exploration before it gets demolished! |
| 00:47.13 | keldwud | I still can't tell if it's the same one from the video posted |
| 00:47.40 | keldwud | horrible angles and lighting |
| 00:49.25 | keldwud | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfIehCrO4Zs |
| 00:49.27 | keldwud | lol |
| 00:50.28 | keldwud | that panguitch utah accent was spot on |
| 01:16.59 | Pontifier | keldwud, what's up? |
| 01:17.41 | Pontifier | I think the vote tomorrow is the only chance to block the demolition. |
| 01:17.58 | Pontifier | The building is just up the hill from the juvenile detention center. |
| 01:23.08 | Pontifier | https://www.google.com/maps/place/1776+S+Buckley+Ln,+Provo,+UT+84606/@40.2094328,-111.6267515,302m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x874d9704f79fbfb3:0x9c0dd53687b14773 |
| 01:57.39 | harleypig | Does anyone know of a way to access java annotations from perl? |
| 02:03.19 | TodPunk | harleypig: yes: don't use perl |
| 02:03.25 | TodPunk | </low_blow> |
| 02:03.28 | harleypig | or even just a tool that will dump the annotation in a usable format. |
| 02:03.33 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.43 | TodPunk | =cP |
| 02:04.09 | TodPunk | but no, I think that will be dependent on a lot of variables and not strictly predictable from a non-java tool |
| 02:07.30 | Pontifier | are you just trying to search sources to figure out what annotations are available or somehow interface with java at runtime? |
| 02:07.53 | Pontifier | I'm by no means a java or perl guy, but this sounds interesting. |
| 02:10.14 | harleypig | cloudstack generates it's api documentation using annotations. |
| 02:10.29 | harleypig | I've got a cloudstack api, but it's a pita to keep it updated. |
| 02:10.53 | harleypig | I'd like to take the annotations and make a tool that will build a perl library for me, based on those annotations. |
| 02:11.18 | harleypig | The annotations have parameters, required or optional, data types ... |
| 02:13.39 | harleypig | In other words, this https://cloudstack.apache.org/api/apidocs-4.5/root_admin/createUser.html is generated based on those annotations. I should be able to take the same information and build a module that handles parameters, types, etc. |
| 02:27.18 | Pontifier | It seems like you basically want to grep through the source directory, and dump all the annotations, but in a usable form... Right? |
| 02:29.01 | harleypig | Yeah, but I've already tried that ... there's missing informatoin. |
| 02:30.48 | Pontifier | Is the info you need actually in the annotations, or will you need to parse the declarations and try to fill in the blanks as well? |
| 02:31.12 | Pontifier | Or are you working with compiled java bytecode? |
| 02:33.59 | Pontifier | I'm looking at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javadoc and it seems like if the info isn't in the commments, then the correct solution would be to add it to the source code. |
| 02:35.21 | harleypig | The correct and full information is being generated (see the link above) from the annotations in the code. So I shouldn't have to modify the code. |
| 02:36.35 | Pontifier | There's this tool: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/guide/apt/index.html |
| 02:38.11 | Pontifier | That looks like it runs internal documentation generators. You could possibly run it externally. |
| 02:40.39 | harleypig | Ah, that's getting me somewhere. Apparently, it's being deprecated in favor of javac, which has annotation processing built in ... |
| 03:10.50 | harleypig | Oh ... look. If you compile cloudstack from source, part of the compilation includes generating an intermediate xml file with all the appropriate information. |
| 03:11.09 | harleypig | Hmmm ... except for the type ... |
| 03:17.47 | keldwud | Pontifier, would attending the meeting help in any way? will they be seeking comments from the public during the meeting? |
| 03:18.00 | keldwud | if so, when and where is the meeting? I'm a provo citizen. |
| 03:19.04 | Pontifier | Yes, definitely... the meeting is tomorrow at 5:30pm at the city offices 351 West Center street. |
| 03:19.20 | keldwud | oh hey, is that you John? |
| 03:19.21 | Pontifier | You should come by ProVolt sometime too! |
| 03:19.25 | Pontifier | yeah! |
| 03:19.27 | keldwud | hah |
| 03:19.34 | keldwud | I'll back you on this, for sure. |
| 03:19.46 | keldwud | I forgot your alias was Pontifier |
| 03:20.02 | keldwud | which room will it be in? |
| 03:20.33 | Pontifier | The city council chamber is just inside the building to the right... you can't miss it if you enter from center street |
| 03:20.51 | keldwud | where's Provolt at? |
| 03:21.32 | Pontifier | We had to move from near frontrunner, and we are currently in a 1 bedroom apartment at 341 South, 100 East. |
| 03:21.40 | Pontifier | Are you still around that area? |
| 03:22.12 | keldwud | no :( I had to move from that apartment. It was sold finally and the new owner (CEO of shareability, btw) decided to move into the unit me and my daughter were in |
| 03:22.22 | keldwud | so we moved into their old apartment on BYU campus |
| 03:22.24 | keldwud | we're near brick oven |
| 03:22.52 | keldwud | but that is literally 2 blocks from my old location. wish I would have known about it before I moved |
| 03:23.11 | Pontifier | I'm just north of the stadium... we're practically neighbors. |
| 03:23.21 | keldwud | well I remember where you live :) |
| 03:23.44 | keldwud | I bank at the bank right there so still think of you when I'm in that area |
| 03:23.57 | harleypig | :q |
| 03:24.15 | Pontifier | Well stop by sometime! |
| 03:24.29 | keldwud | ok :) I will. Wasn't sure what terms we were on after all that drama. |
| 03:24.42 | keldwud | I know there wasn't any drama directly between us, but I still wasn't sure |
| 03:24.52 | Pontifier | hell, I don't care about any of that stuff... |
| 03:24.57 | keldwud | the proposal looks good, btw |
| 03:25.00 | Pontifier | thanks |
| 03:25.15 | keldwud | d3c4f had some great questions, too. |
| 03:25.27 | Pontifier | Yeah, I'm glad he liked it. |
| 03:25.45 | keldwud | so has this had any attention yet or is it going to be a brand new idea to the council tomorrow? |
| 03:25.48 | Pontifier | I just want stuff to happen here again |
| 03:26.04 | keldwud | and have you reached out to the mayor's office yet? |
| 03:26.22 | keldwud | provo mayor is pretty hip to attracting technology to provo |
| 03:26.41 | Pontifier | I submitted it to them as 1 of the 4 proposals for the space, and I also addressed the city council on May 18th to try talk to them. I gave them all copies at that time. |
| 03:26.55 | keldwud | ok cool |
| 03:27.09 | Pontifier | I actually talked to the mayor about this 2 years ago when I first had the idea. |
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| 03:27.25 | Pontifier | I have talked to him a couple of times about this since then as well. |
| 03:27.28 | keldwud | would have been awkward trying to support it at the last minute if this is the last meeting available to decide the fate of the space |
| 03:27.34 | keldwud | Pontifier, cool beans |
| 03:27.56 | Pontifier | It kind of is. |
| 03:28.17 | keldwud | *if this is the last meeting but the idea hasn't been seen or proposed before tomorrow |
| 03:28.22 | keldwud | I left off part of my sentence :) |
| 03:29.00 | keldwud | btw, I was going to plan a lunch sometime soon with my old boss and the guy who bought my old apartment |
| 03:29.02 | Pontifier | Yeah... It's on their radar, but I'm the only one who has been vocal. |
| 03:29.09 | keldwud | if you'd be interested in having me keep you in the loop on that |
| 03:29.15 | keldwud | you're all into startup culture |
| 03:29.27 | keldwud | well I'll try and make the meeting tomorrow and help be vocal |
| 03:29.39 | Pontifier | That would mean a lot. |
| 03:29.51 | keldwud | could even promote it as a place to do homework for university studies |
| 03:30.05 | keldwud | since the library only has so much available |
| 03:30.32 | Pontifier | If we have 65k sqft we can do a lot. |
| 03:31.35 | keldwud | it's probably too late now but if there were more time I'm wondering if it would have helped to get the support from professors or the universities in the area |
| 03:31.58 | keldwud | since it aligns with their purpose as well |
| 03:32.50 | Pontifier | I have the support of Mike Alder with BYU. He's in charge of their technology transfer department, and wants to see some lab space in the area for his biotech startups. |
| 03:33.47 | Pontifier | I'm truly surprised that the city didn't choose this proposal... |
| 03:34.14 | Pontifier | But actually, they are required to sell property for cash unless the council decides to make an exception. |
| 03:34.26 | Pontifier | I intend to ask for that exception tomorrow. |
| 03:36.03 | keldwud | what can I do to help if I make it to the meeting? Just share my thoughts on the matter? |
| 03:37.01 | keldwud | I think it would be good to address the points that d3c4f brought up by adding them to the proposal somehow. It's all about money to these guys, I'm sure. |
| 03:37.24 | Pontifier | They may not have ever been to a makerspace or hackerspace. They may not understand what it can be. I'd say talk about what it could mean to have a space like that available. |
| 03:38.10 | Pontifier | or just show up and hold up a ProVolt bumpersticker. |
| 03:38.56 | keldwud | like how we would come up with money on our own |
| 03:38.57 | Pontifier | I'll definitely address the points that have been mentioned. I'm gathering all my arguments in hopes of making this happen. |
| 03:39.09 | keldwud | yeah I could share with them my experiences in hacker spaces |
| 03:39.16 | Pontifier | Totally |
| 03:39.27 | keldwud | and talk about how I learned skills that helped me in my line of work |
| 03:39.55 | keldwud | and also how hacker spaces are similar to libraries and skate parks in that they give youth something to do other than get in trouble :) |
| 03:40.09 | keldwud | and that I'd love for my daughter to have something like that available for her as she grows |
| 03:40.09 | Pontifier | It's just such a new thing to them that they probably just need to know that it actually can help people |
| 03:40.22 | Pontifier | seriously... |
| 03:40.26 | keldwud | I do believe it to be very analogous to a public library |
| 03:40.37 | keldwud | because a public library isn't just about having books |
| 03:40.40 | keldwud | it's so much more than that |
| 03:40.52 | keldwud | so I like how you mentioned both the rec center and the library |
| 03:41.09 | keldwud | because those are both public spaces that people can use for all sorts of purposes |
| 03:41.10 | Pontifier | Being right next to the juvenile detention center, I'd want to try to work something out with them to see if they could come to a class or something while they are in there.. |
| 03:41.24 | keldwud | yeah that'd be great. rehabilitation |
| 03:41.33 | Pontifier | I'm not sure how it works, but I can see it being great. |
| 03:41.42 | keldwud | give them skills that will keep them from the neverending cycle of being 'stuck' in the system |
| 03:42.14 | keldwud | because it can be empirically shown that once a juvenile enters the system without some sort of rehabilitation, they will come back again and again |
| 03:42.21 | Pontifier | exactly. I just know that people given opportunities have better lives. |
| 03:42.29 | keldwud | and providing them with skills is a form of rehabilitatin |
| 03:43.03 | keldwud | have you kept in touch with Matt after I introduced you two? |
| 03:43.16 | keldwud | do you mind if I tell him about this? |
| 03:44.07 | Pontifier | Go for it. The more people involved the better. |
| 03:45.22 | Pontifier | I went to california for battlebots and went to a few makerspaces out there, and I'm convinced that ProVolt should be run just like Noisebridge |
| 03:45.57 | Pontifier | It's treated like public space, no membership fees, and it's kept afloat by donations exclusively. |
| 03:47.16 | Pontifier | Their golden rule is "Be Excellent to each other". |
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| 03:59.04 | goozbach | noisebridge is a great example |
| 04:20.48 | keldwud | 10k files and I want to rename them all based on a list I have with 10k filenames. loops and mv? or find -exec and xargs? |
| 04:21.00 | keldwud | we're talking bash |
| 04:22.57 | klys | would you have to rename them into another directory? |
| 04:23.16 | klys | if so, find |
| 04:23.22 | klys | if not, bash... |
| 04:23.39 | keldwud | all the files are in the same directory |
| 04:23.58 | klys | yeah don't use find if you don't have to |
| 04:24.10 | keldwud | because slow, right? |
| 04:24.16 | klys | well, clumsy |
| 04:24.20 | keldwud | ahh |
| 04:27.22 | keldwud | while read title; do mv first file listed in directory to $title{retain extension .jpg}; done < comic_titles |
| 04:27.52 | keldwud | I'm still not yet proficient with the curly braces |
| 04:27.57 | klys | for f in *; do if [ -d $f ] then /path/to/script "$f"; else...fi; (I don't really know the syntax) |
| 04:29.26 | keldwud | I have to figure out how to iterate through both the files in current directory and the filename on each line in a text file |
| 04:29.39 | keldwud | I need to get better at using {} |
| 04:30.34 | klys | for f in *; do if [ -d "$f" ] then /path/to/script "$f"; else mv "$f" $2; shift; fi; done (still guessing) |
| 04:30.35 | keldwud | mv -i ./"${fn}" "${fn}.jpg" |
| 04:31.14 | keldwud | oh yeah shift duh |
| 04:31.26 | keldwud | that will pop off each one as I go through it |
| 04:32.53 | klys | for f in *; do if [ -d "$f" ] then /path/to/script "$f" `grep basename /path/to/list`; else mv "$f" $2; shift; fi; done |
| 04:32.56 | keldwud | so you're starting from listing the directory contents first and then modifying |
| 04:32.57 | keldwud | okay |
| 04:33.09 | keldwud | I was attacking it from the other end and that's probably why I was getting stuck |
| 04:33.26 | keldwud | because I was trying to iterate first through the textfile and then through the files |
| 04:34.02 | keldwud | I don't get the first conditional |
| 04:34.07 | keldwud | I get the else |
| 04:34.10 | klys | if it's a directory |
| 04:34.22 | keldwud | I get that part |
| 04:34.23 | keldwud | the -d |
| 04:34.30 | klys | $ help test |
| 04:34.41 | klys | I may not be right about the syntax |
| 04:34.50 | keldwud | I don't get the grep basename |
| 04:35.08 | klys | basename: the full path to the current directory |
| 04:35.15 | klys | pathname? |
| 04:35.16 | keldwud | so it's an actual keyword? |
| 04:35.28 | klys | it should be a keyword or binary |
| 04:35.28 | keldwud | okay I see |
| 04:35.32 | keldwud | yeah I found it |
| 04:35.40 | keldwud | looks like a builtin for bash |
| 04:35.51 | keldwud | or yeah it's a binary |
| 04:40.43 | keldwud | can't I use an OR to modify my globbing? |
| 04:41.01 | keldwud | like *.[jpg|png] |
| 04:41.11 | klys | yeah [ -o ] |
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| 11:28.09 | keldwud | sighs wistfully |
| 11:28.09 | keldwud | for f in *; do if [ -d "$f" ] then /path/to/script "$f" `grep basename /path/to/list`; else mv "$f" $2; shift; fi; done |
| 11:28.11 | keldwud | whoops |
| 11:28.24 | keldwud | http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/eaton4.jpg |
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| 14:05.23 | harleypig | what about rename |
| 14:05.48 | harleypig | I should really check timestamps before commenting ... |
| 14:18.33 | keldwud | harleypig, I didn't look into rename. Don't know why. I'll check the man page now |
| 14:18.51 | harleypig | It's a little known utility. |
| 14:19.06 | harleypig | I don't remember where I learned about it. |
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| 14:19.22 | keldwud | but I ended up just merging it by outputting echo "mv $filename1 $filename2" .sh |
| 14:19.25 | keldwud | then running that |
| 14:19.47 | keldwud | I was aware of rename but was probably just being too 'snobbish' to think of using it |
| 14:19.56 | keldwud | thinking everything could be done with mv |
| 14:20.08 | harleypig | heh |
| 14:20.58 | keldwud | so I ls > old_file_names |
| 14:21.52 | keldwud | then paste old_file_names new_file_names | while read old new; do echo "mv |
| 14:21.54 | keldwud | blah blah blah |
| 14:22.17 | harleypig | if it worked then its good. |
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| 16:21.50 | youtah | BUT YOU GUYS |
| 16:21.53 | youtah | I ALMOST DIED LAST NIGHT |
| 16:23.41 | levi | Good thing you didn't, youtah. |
| 16:24.15 | youtah | no kidding, right? |
| 16:24.18 | jlp_znc | what happened, youtah? did you tell your wife you were buying a new HF rig? |
| 16:24.27 | youtah | lol, no... she knows that one is coming |
| 16:24.35 | youtah | along with the dipole antenna |
| 16:25.32 | bregalad | why not a tripole antenna? |
| 16:26.08 | bregalad | the smallest nonvanishing term in the solution to the gravitational field is the quadrupole |
| 16:26.23 | youtah | So I was on Colossus at Lagoon, in the middle of the train car, at the VERY top of the hill, when Lightning struck just on the side of Wild Mouse |
| 16:26.35 | youtah | The sound and lightning was simultaneous |
| 16:26.55 | youtah | It made this intense crackling sound as I watched the little fingers expanding and crawl out. |
| 16:27.09 | youtah | There was no loud large crash... as it was probably no more than 200 yards away |
| 16:27.23 | levi | Fun! |
| 16:27.26 | youtah | Just this intense crackling sound as the bolt struck |
| 16:27.30 | bregalad | that's cool |
| 16:27.32 | youtah | WHILE AT THE FREAKING TOP OF THE RIDE |
| 16:27.48 | youtah | 1/2 the rides I am sure had to change their shorts. |
| 16:27.49 | levi | Best Ride Ever. |
| 16:27.57 | youtah | It was! |
| 16:28.18 | jlp_znc | http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/4b/e1/2a/4be12a715c2caf6052c436626d351938.jpg <- antenna for your subaru, youtah |
| 16:30.45 | youtah | lol jlp_znc |
| 16:30.59 | youtah | that looks like that is for EME / Satellite working |
| 16:31.02 | jlp_znc | it's for EME |
| 16:31.06 | youtah | and my guess was that he was just transporting it |
| 16:31.36 | jlp_znc | I like this one, too: http://eme.dokidoki.ne.jp/photo/jh0wjf/antenna/IMG_0306.JPG |
| 16:31.37 | youtah | I suspected from the rotational polarization |
| 16:32.27 | youtah | The rotational polarization elements might have been for ISS... since the station is continuously tumbling |
| 16:32.51 | jlp_znc | I don't know, most EME antennas are simple yagis |
| 16:33.05 | youtah | Did I tell you someone gave me a $90 antenna rotor, completely new, for free? |
| 16:33.09 | jlp_znc | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hsZIVWeNve4/ThCh81qIs0I/AAAAAAAAqgc/m214nUGuBjs/s1600/eme%2Bantennas1.jpg |
| 16:33.12 | RyanE | youtah: Glad the lightning didn't hit you. |
| 16:33.17 | youtah | Right, the EME |
| 16:33.27 | jlp_znc | no, you did not. |
| 16:33.27 | youtah | Right, the EME's are typically yagi |
| 16:33.55 | jlp_znc | this guy is pretty serious about it: http://www.moonbounce.dk/images/dishobs.jpg |
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| 16:37.03 | RyanE | Here was my Lagoon experience Saturday (don't know why Dropbox puts these out of order...): https://www.dropbox.com/sc/ceudz3s62n6qqpl/AABD86VbxWq5M_DSfjNtfNQpa |
| 16:37.48 | jlp_znc | so did you guys ride the new ride? |
| 16:38.00 | RyanE | closed for testing |
| 16:38.48 | jlp_znc | aug |
| 16:40.36 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/Ut7UkJa.gifv |
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| 16:42.52 | jlp_znc | cat's thaoughts: good morning, breakfast |
| 16:52.05 | goozbach | holy crap need sleep |
| 16:52.34 | RyanE | That kitten doesn't have enough wings to nestle that many chicks. |
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| 17:44.13 | Pontifier | Hi everyone, It would be awesome if anyone here wanted to come support ProVolt at the Provo City council meeting tonight. |
| 17:45.46 | Pontifier | It's 5:30pm at 351 West Center street in Provo. |
| 17:53.33 | Pontifier | Gotta run... take care. |
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| 18:32.31 | youtah | Well, I've got AmericanForkCanyon.com up and running |
| 18:32.43 | youtah | _phew_ |
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| 18:41.39 | jlp_znc | you dug the whole canyon? |
| 18:44.00 | jlp_znc | who wrote this copy? it's terrible. |
| 18:44.10 | jlp_znc | "We will present their story here when they will share it with us." |
| 18:53.49 | shalkie | Someone in the phillipines for 10 cents? |
| 18:53.53 | shalkie | jlp_znc: ^ |
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| 19:37.09 | eightyeight | https://letsencrypt.org/2015/06/16/lets-encrypt-launch-schedule.html |
| 19:37.14 | eightyeight | GA in 3 months. w00t. |
| 19:39.27 | fungus | fg |
| 19:39.37 | jsmith | eightyeight: For which operating systems? With what features? |
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| 19:39.54 | jsmith | eightyeight: If the last six months are any indication, they're big on hype and short on code :-/ |
| 19:40.28 | eightyeight | jsmith: let's encrypt is a CA. for free ssl certs. |
| 19:40.52 | jsmith | eightyeight: No, it's more than just a CA -- it's also a client utility to talk to the CA and automagically setup your cert |
| 19:41.01 | shalkie | Host through the Linux Foundation, right? |
| 19:41.10 | jsmith | shalkie: Don't think so... |
| 19:41.12 | eightyeight | jsmith: the post is about issuing certificates |
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| 19:41.55 | jsmith | eightyeight: Ah... which is all fine and dandy, but the client is really where they want to shine. |
| 19:42.18 | eightyeight | so, you didn't read the post then... |
| 19:42.20 | shalkie | Maybe things have changed. |
| 19:42.39 | shalkie | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2015/04/linux-foundation-host-open-encryption-project |
| 19:42.43 | jsmith | eightyeight: Don't need to -- I'm very aware of the project and what they're doing. Have even volunteered to help get their client working on Fedora/RHEL/CentOS |
| 19:43.09 | eightyeight | well, seeing as though the post is about issuing certificates, and not the client software, it seems like reading it would be advantageous for the context |
| 19:43.22 | jsmith | eightyeight: Perhaps :-) |
| 19:43.54 | eightyeight | https://github.com/letsencrypt/lets-encrypt-preview has been getting some good commit traffic, however |
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| 19:45.41 | shalkie | Price aside with the backing of companies like Cisco it might actually happen. |
| 19:45.57 | shalkie | And it would still get more traction then DNSSEC. :( |
| 19:47.19 | eightyeight | mozilla is a big sponsor there, imo |
| 19:47.32 | eightyeight | this means in the browser store by default. unlike cacert. |
| 19:49.02 | shalkie | Yeah, but sponsor wise that appears to be it for browsers. |
| 19:49.45 | shalkie | But it is just a matter of holding CA cert, I would imagine Chrome and Opera will pick it up. |
| 19:50.12 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 19:50.37 | eightyeight | because issuing the certs will be free, i'm suspecting that many personal sites will switch |
| 19:50.48 | eightyeight | which makes chrome, IE, and opera look silly |
| 19:52.17 | eightyeight | on one hand, mozilla is doing good things |
| 19:52.27 | eightyeight | on the other, they're becoming an enemy to freedom and privacy |
| 19:53.44 | jlp_znc | http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2MBG53YJEKQCI/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000I1X6PM#R2MBG53YJEKQCI |
| 19:53.57 | jlp_znc | (not relevant to the discussion, but funny, none-the-less) |
| 19:55.57 | jlp_znc | and yes, that's $8000 for a 1.5m ethernet cable. |
| 19:56.12 | eightyeight | although, he didn't pay for it. instead, amazon shipped it to him for free. |
| 19:57.39 | Q_Continuum | Msft will give in and add it if only because Windows 10 IoT. |
| 19:58.23 | shalkie | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-carbon-65-6-hdmi-cable-platinum-white/9892876.p?id=1218202520596&skuId=9892876 |
| 19:58.36 | shalkie | Not as good in the comments but still, fun. |
| 19:58.46 | shalkie | And the price! Such a deal. |
| 19:59.16 | jlp_znc | well, that is a 65 foot cable. |
| 20:00.23 | jlp_znc | still, I can get a 50 foot one from monoprice for $41.27 |
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| 20:00.58 | shalkie | Well there is a 6.6' cable for nearly the same price: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-diamond-6-6-high-speed-hdmi-cable-dark-gray-blue/1306739267.p?id=mp1306739267&skuId=1306739267 |
| 20:01.29 | eightyeight | i get 'high end' analog component interconnects, but not digital |
| 20:02.06 | eightyeight | i have yet to see the difference between a $10 HDMI 3' cable and a $100 one |
| 20:02.24 | jlp_znc | combine the 50 foot cable with a 15 foot cable and a female to female coupler ($2.08) and you've got your 65 footer for under $70 |
| 20:02.40 | jlp_znc | eightyeight: the difference is in the price, you fool! |
| 20:02.58 | shalkie | I thought it was the thickness of the gold plating. :( |
| 20:03.09 | RyanE | vive la difference! |
| 20:03.40 | eightyeight | i guess i can see the difference in my banking account. indeed. |
| 20:04.02 | shalkie | There would be a discernable difference there. |
| 20:04.22 | shalkie | For the price you would hope for some sort of personal delivery by actual elves too. |
| 20:04.50 | eightyeight | then again, i get it: the general population is stupid. you can almost pull everything over their eyes |
| 20:04.59 | eightyeight | nevermind that you either get the data, or you don't. |
| 20:05.19 | shalkie | So you are the NSA or your not? |
| 20:05.22 | eightyeight | it's $500. with "platinum" in the product name. and there are 3 different price points from the same manufacturer |
| 20:05.27 | eightyeight | so, it must be legit |
| 20:06.36 | shalkie | Gold Pressed Latinum and then we can talk about it. |
| 20:07.32 | shalkie | http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Deep-Space-Nine/dp/B005YSSKGY |
| 20:08.29 | shalkie | eightyeight: Why is it that Mozilla is becoming the enemy of Freedom and Privacy? |
| 20:08.56 | eightyeight | they're including non-free, proprietary services with recent releases |
| 20:09.40 | eightyeight | specifically with Hello and Pocket |
| 20:10.00 | eightyeight | as well as supporting DRM, which is a 180-degree turn |
| 20:17.22 | Tod-Work | Good thing we got that progressive CEO in there! |
| 20:18.56 | youtah | Well, we've started demo'ing for level 2 https://twitter.com/zholmquist/status/610896110962388992 |
| 20:43.00 | jlp_znc | so you mean there will actually be somewhere for employees to sit soon? |
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| 21:03.38 | youtah | jlp_znc, yes! |
| 21:03.59 | jlp_znc | woot! |
| 21:04.18 | jlp_znc | but you're not moving, just expanding onto the 2nd floor? |
| 21:04.33 | jlp_znc | so you're still going to be in the drug dealer neighborhood. |
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| 21:27.00 | shalkie | There is a drug dealer neighborhood in utah county? |
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| 21:31.07 | jlp_znc | no, in salt lake city |
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| 21:39.47 | shalkie | There is more then one if you want to include areas like Westvalley |
| 21:40.03 | shalkie | s/Westvalley/West Valley/ |
| 21:40.30 | shalkie | But if that means that Youtah is around Pioneer park he at least access to Tony Caputos. |
| 21:40.50 | shalkie | s/least/least has/ |
| 21:43.33 | unum | Bruges Waffles |
| 21:44.01 | shalkie | Tin Angle |
| 21:44.06 | shalkie | s/gle/gel |
| 21:44.54 | shalkie | Well I can't communicate very well through typing today. :( So many typos. |
| 21:46.46 | jlp_znc | youtah is about two blocks from pioneer park |
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| 22:01.41 | keldwud | shalkie, I second the pioneer park suggestion, but you're only likely to get hard drugs there and around the corner at the shelter you'll have the best luck |
| 22:02.09 | keldwud | source: ex cab driver |
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| 22:02.34 | keldwud | hey who do I know over at SuSe |
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