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| 16:52.23 | Tod-Work | The ongoing struggles of kids being allowed to exist: http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/11/11-year-old-boy-played-in-his-yard-cps-t |
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| 16:53.04 | youtah | Are there any purchase order management systems out there that you guys really like? |
| 16:53.08 | youtah | Specifically web based? |
| 16:53.20 | youtah | There are So. Many. |
| 16:53.44 | Tod-Work | too nebulous, narrow down what you want to do |
| 16:54.14 | jalbretsen | youtah - do you need like a shopping cart and a gateway or...... |
| 16:54.50 | youtah | no.... an internal, in house web application that allows employees to enter Purchase Order requests |
| 16:55.07 | youtah | and then it gets bumped up the chain via some sort of purchasing approval process |
| 16:55.23 | youtah | and then upon approval, gets purchased and then shipped to your company |
| 16:55.57 | youtah | For visibility, historical archives, etc |
| 16:57.44 | Tod-Work | I've seen such in ERP systems, but we wrote our own at work |
| 17:02.51 | jalbretsen | well thanks youtah. Because that was not it, I won't get a $50 bonus for referring you if your merchant account gets approved. Thanks for taking food out of my children's mouth. ;) |
| 17:04.08 | youtah | lol |
| 17:04.10 | youtah | sorry jalbretsen |
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| 17:50.50 | romanovic | Tod-Work: that is frightening. there were many days i came home from a friends' house at that age without a key to find the house empty and locked |
| 17:51.44 | Tod-Work | romanovic, right? It's not like my mom could say, "hey, i'm going grocery shopping" because I was 7 and didn't have a cell phone (why would I today, anyway?) and she couldn't just NOT get food |
| 17:51.59 | Tod-Work | parents need to do things, not be a constant babysitter |
| 17:52.01 | romanovic | somehow I managed not to starve, dehydrate, or get kidnapped from my backyard on those days |
| 17:52.45 | Tod-Work | kids need to be adults, giving them this sort of thing to maintain themselves is the right first steps towards that |
| 17:52.55 | Tod-Work | has a lot of anger in this one |
| 17:56.10 | keldwud | Tod-Work, good news in Maryland |
| 17:56.18 | keldwud | they officially ruled it not neglect |
| 17:56.31 | Tod-Work | yessssssss |
| 17:56.31 | keldwud | so at least this debate is taking place all across the country |
| 17:56.35 | Tod-Work | it is |
| 17:56.45 | Tod-Work | I've heard of a couple cases in courts here in Utah as well |
| 17:56.54 | keldwud | it is a struggle but hopefully things will calm down soon |
| 17:57.00 | keldwud | Tod-Work, oh yeah? which way did they go? |
| 17:57.07 | Tod-Work | they're not done yet |
| 17:57.11 | keldwud | dang |
| 17:57.39 | keldwud | since it is across the country we could end up with varying degrees of restrictions/freedoms based on the judges |
| 17:57.56 | keldwud | what we need in this debate is actual child development psychologists and therapists |
| 17:58.08 | keldwud | speaking of children, brb, gotta go drive to the school then walk my kid across the street |
| 17:58.23 | keldwud | because nobody wants to walk her across the street because they feel they are enabling child neglect |
| 17:58.41 | keldwud | so I have to wake up every day at 1130 to help her get across the street to take the bus to her next event |
| 17:58.58 | keldwud | they're quite upset at the school that I allow my child to ride the bus alone and shit |
| 17:59.09 | keldwud | I sent the principal a link to the maryland article |
| 17:59.19 | keldwud | Tod-Work, it's in the washington post if you wanted to check it out |
| 17:59.36 | keldwud | the parents whose kids were detained by police for 5 hours |
| 18:01.01 | unum | I don't think my neighbors would have called dcfs on us |
| 18:01.41 | unum | it actually has happened to my daughter a couple of times, but only for a few minutes |
| 18:01.44 | unum | not ninety |
| 18:01.54 | Tod-Work | DCFS/CPS needs to have a more "so what?" attitude than it does in its investigations |
| 18:02.02 | unum | but she could go to a neighbors for a drink or a restroom |
| 18:02.10 | Tod-Work | I'm all for investigations, but the result should be "they'll live, case closed" |
| 18:02.19 | Tod-Work | in SO many instances |
| 18:02.25 | unum | ya |
| 18:02.55 | unum | I went to a presentation by one, and he told us about a terrible case and you were glad he got that girl out |
| 18:03.05 | unum | he encouraged people to be more willing to talk to them |
| 18:03.18 | unum | even told a story about his wife leaving a child at a park |
| 18:03.31 | unum | the copy just wagged his finger at her and let her go |
| 18:03.39 | unum | s/copy/cop |
| 18:04.14 | unum | he felt dfcs should have been called, just so they were aware |
| 18:04.32 | unum | not that his wife should have been prosecuted |
| 18:04.49 | unum | atleast I think that's what he was saying |
| 18:05.11 | unum | he mentioned the time his son loudly asked him in public why he was touching his penis |
| 18:05.33 | unum | things happen, he knows that, and knows not to jump to conclusions |
| 18:05.45 | unum | or so he claimed :) |
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| 18:07.30 | Tod-Work | unum, the problem isn't that guy, it's the average worker. The average worker in ANY industry is a complete incompetent moron, and it will be worse in a low-pay no-qualification job like DCFS case workers so often are |
| 18:08.11 | Tod-Work | I don't know if Utah at least requires a certificate or something, but in Texas they require a high school diploma and a class (or at least 4 years ago that's what they required) |
| 18:33.30 | keldwud | Tod-Work, here's some other good news. An anecdotal experience first hand from my daughter |
| 18:33.47 | keldwud | because you know, little girls at the bus stop are constantly approached by strangers will well intent |
| 18:34.18 | keldwud | the first one was some old lady thinking she needed a ride, I get her sincerity but my daughter knows not to accept rides. The second was a pair of girls and you know what they asked? |
| 18:34.29 | keldwud | they didn't ask where she was going, they didn't ask where her parents were |
| 18:34.38 | keldwud | they asked two questions and two questions only. |
| 18:34.51 | keldwud | "do you know where you're going?" and "do you feel safe?" |
| 18:34.58 | keldwud | then they let her be |
| 18:35.30 | keldwud | people like that give me hope. That is exactly what we should be doing for children. Just making sure they are safe. Not messing with them when there is no immediate threat of danger. |
| 18:38.08 | keldwud | unum, I agree that dcfs should be aware. absolutely. because it really is difficult to tell the difference between somebody who is passively neglecting their children and somebody who is actively enabling their children to navigate through the world independently and safely |
| 18:38.49 | keldwud | but as far as intervention, I don't think intervention methods should be applied unless there is an immediate threat to the child. otherwise they won't ever learn risk aversion on their own. |
| 18:38.55 | jima | wow. those are some enlightened questions. |
| 18:41.14 | keldwud | jima, I know. I was extremely impressed. |
| 18:41.31 | keldwud | I also told my daughter that she needs to collect business cards of any police officer that interacts with her |
| 18:41.51 | jima | oooh. that's not bad advice. |
| 18:42.03 | keldwud | yeah, because cops shouldn't be talking to kids anyway |
| 18:42.15 | keldwud | it's unethical. they are in a position of authority |
| 18:43.04 | keldwud | and kids don't have the proper cognitive ability to understand that they aren't there to help you but there to find crime |
| 18:46.30 | jlp_znc | youtah: you should look at small business accounting packages. they generally have a purchasing component. maybe look here: http://www.softwareadvice.com/scm/procurement-software-comparison/ |
| 18:47.17 | jlp_znc | or here: http://www.vagueware.com/purchase-order-software/ |
| 18:55.33 | harleypig | keldwud: as many problems as i've had with cops, I have to disagree with you on that. A cops job is as much community relations as it is to handle criminal acts. A cop who talks to children, and all citizens for that matter, and allows them to get to know each other makes for a safer community. |
| 18:55.52 | jlp_znc | regarding the kids issue, in our family, our kids received a key to the house at age 10. this indicated that they were responsible enough to be left home alone. |
| 18:56.32 | jlp_znc | could the florida couple's problem have been resolved if their kid had had a key to the house? |
| 18:57.29 | jlp_znc | and I agree with harleypig on the cop issue. I know some cops, and in general, they are courteous people. they are people with a crappy job that puts them in contact with the dregs of society most of the time, but they do it because they want to serve their community. |
| 18:57.53 | jlp_znc | not all cops, of course. you get the occasional one who is on a power trip (and they are the ones who make the news, usually), but in general. |
| 18:58.36 | harleypig | I read an article recently by a cop that discussed the guardian and warrior mentalities and how cops needed to have the guardian mentality |
| 18:59.11 | harleypig | That's all I can remember of the article, but I was impressed with the attitude evinced by the author. |
| 18:59.46 | jlp_znc | I remember reading a discussion between a cop and some open carry enthusiasts. in general, the cop was the saner of the two. |
| 19:00.03 | harleypig | This one. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/two-mckinney-cops-former-police-officer-guardian-warrior |
| 19:00.55 | jlp_znc | I suspect a large part of the problem is busy body neighbors who think they need to "help" you when you're doing something "wrong", so they call the cops or cps |
| 19:01.10 | harleypig | jlp_znc: I know quite a few open-carry advocates. It seems to me that it's the one's who are zealots about it that are causing the problems. Just like any other groups zealots. |
| 19:01.44 | harleypig | Monkey piss. They don't want to help you. They want you to stop and they don't want to confront you about it. |
| 19:01.45 | jlp_znc | harleypig: yep. that is definitely the case. I lived in Montana for a large part of my youth and guns were just a natural thing there. nobody cared. |
| 19:02.13 | jlp_znc | for example, we had a gun club at our high school. people would routinely bring their newest guns in to show off. |
| 19:02.23 | jlp_znc | try that today and you'll get a swat team in response. |
| 19:02.38 | jlp_znc | "oooohhhhh, think of the chillllddrreeennnnnn!" |
| 19:02.51 | jlp_znc | makes me pound my head against the wall. |
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| 19:05.14 | neanderslob | harleypig: lol |
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| 19:24.49 | unum | jlp_znc: from what I'm reading if the boy had had a key there would have been no grounds to intervene |
| 19:25.03 | jlp_znc | that's what I think, too. |
| 19:25.23 | jlp_znc | seemed like their biggest concerns were no access to food, water, bathroom. |
| 19:25.38 | unum | ya |
| 19:25.53 | unum | of course the neighbor could have just offered the kid some water and use of the restroom |
| 19:25.59 | unum | that's what I would do in that situation |
| 19:26.00 | jlp_znc | still, if I saw my neighbor's kid locked out, I'd offer them food, water, and access to the bathroom before I'd call the cops. sheesh. |
| 19:26.33 | unum | agreed |
| 19:27.10 | harleypig | or make arrangements with the parents to take the child(ren) in until they get home |
| 19:27.26 | unum | my wife and I tend to lean towards the free range ideas |
| 19:27.55 | jlp_znc | we always made sure we knew where our kids were, but damn, they've got to have a chance to explore on their own. |
| 19:28.24 | jlp_znc | when I was a kid, I was all over the air force base on my bike. explored a lot of places (including some where I probably shouldn't have). |
| 19:28.42 | unum | most of my neighbors seem pretty cool, they let their kids out with out supervision |
| 19:28.48 | unum | our biggest concern is cars |
| 19:28.59 | unum | which statistically speaking should be your biggest concern |
| 19:29.27 | unum | although that's changing this year. experts are predicting that for the first time in decades, cars will not be the leading cause of non-medical death |
| 19:30.19 | keldwud | harleypig, I understand completely. I have a pretty extreme view on it and I try really hard to balance it out by trying to teach my daughter that cops are not dangerous but it's hard |
| 19:31.44 | keldwud | I've been trying to have a more moderate view on it |
| 19:32.18 | keldwud | but then something happens like when a cop puts my daughter in his car without either of our permission and brings her home making her late for school.. well.. |
| 19:32.41 | keldwud | I know that's an isolated incident but it is one that affected us directly and for a while she was scared to take the bus because she didn't want to have to deal with the cops |
| 19:32.48 | jlp_znc | yeah, that's not appropriate. |
| 19:33.19 | unum | I've never had a bad experience with a cop |
| 19:33.21 | keldwud | I *did*, however, trust cops when I was a young teenager (early teens not late teens, things changed around then) |
| 19:33.26 | jlp_znc | unum, so what will be the leading cause of non-medical death? |
| 19:33.28 | unum | I've had very few experiences with them at all |
| 19:33.41 | unum | jlp_znc: firearms, I think largely because of suicides |
| 19:33.49 | jlp_znc | wow. more than cars? |
| 19:33.55 | keldwud | if I was out past curfew walking around town, they would tell me "that's a no-no" and then drive me home and tell me not to be seen again that night |
| 19:33.55 | jlp_znc | have they made cars that much safer? |
| 19:34.22 | keldwud | but I've had too many negative experiences with cops. my parents used to think I was crazy until my mother had to deal with it firsthand |
| 19:34.56 | keldwud | she had returned an item to the grocery store and the cops locked her in a room and yelled at her for stealing and refused to listen to a word she said and they detained her for 2 hours |
| 19:35.09 | keldwud | she was scared and lost and had no clue what was happening or how or why it happened |
| 19:35.20 | keldwud | a 50 something year old woman |
| 19:35.52 | unum | jlp_znc: yep |
| 19:36.04 | unum | I didn't realize cars had gotten so much safer over the last 10 years |
| 19:36.05 | keldwud | I kind of think that the scale between trust of police officers and distrust is influence by how many encounters we've had with them |
| 19:36.06 | unum | but they have |
| 19:36.09 | unum | http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21638140-gun-now-more-likely-kill-you-car-bangers-v-bullets |
| 19:36.29 | keldwud | wait, how is that cars vs guns thing.. I don't understand |
| 19:36.39 | keldwud | aren't automobile accidents still top ten killers? |
| 19:36.51 | unum | but it's #2 |
| 19:37.07 | keldwud | interesting |
| 19:37.09 | unum | it's been #1 for decades |
| 19:37.26 | keldwud | I might have to update my view on that |
| 19:37.46 | jlp_znc | ahh, among leading killers of those under age 25 |
| 19:38.12 | harleypig | Number one cause of child fatality is being driven somewhere in a car. |
| 19:38.50 | unum | hmm I don't think that was the article I wanted |
| 19:39.12 | unum | I saw one before that talked about accidents and suicides being the cause of most gun related deaths |
| 19:39.22 | unum | bloomberg makes it sound like it's mass shootings |
| 19:39.25 | unum | but it's not even close |
| 19:39.45 | harleypig | accident and suicide aren't sexy or titillating enoug. |
| 19:39.50 | harleypig | s/g./gh./ |
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| 19:41.44 | unum | " Americans are most likely to die from heart diseaseâfollowed by cancer, chronic respiratory disease, and stroke." |
| 19:42.24 | unum | but if you're talking about children, putting them in a car and driving somewhere is the most dangerous you probably do with them |
| 19:42.47 | unum | far more dangerous than locking them outside for twenty minutes |
| 19:43.29 | unum | my wife hates all the people at the store who keep asking her "is that your child?" |
| 19:44.01 | unum | http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2015/01/20/safer-cars-could-make-guns-the-leading-cause-of-death-among-young-americans/ |
| 19:44.04 | unum | there it is |
| 19:44.06 | harleypig | why would they ask here that? |
| 19:44.08 | unum | I forgot about domestic violence |
| 19:44.14 | jlp_znc | unum: is it her child? :-) |
| 19:44.15 | keldwud | that's why I make my kid take the bus |
| 19:44.20 | harleypig | s/here/her/ |
| 19:44.29 | unum | harleypig: she believes they are asking her that to let her know her child has strayed to far from her |
| 19:44.47 | harleypig | Oh. Those kind of questions. |
| 19:45.02 | harleypig | Idiots. |
| 19:45.04 | unum | if the child was stealing stuff it would make sense |
| 19:45.18 | unum | but they follow up with something like "I just wanted to check because I didn't know" |
| 19:45.23 | unum | I don't know why you would need to know |
| 19:45.35 | unum | maybe they thought the child escaped from an other parent |
| 19:45.57 | unum | but I'd assume the child belongs to the parent who can see him/her |
| 19:47.45 | keldwud | unum, it's enough to drive one crazy, isn't it |
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| 19:48.17 | keldwud | "HEY, HEY, HEY, YOU AREN'T HELICOPTERING YOUR KID ENOUGH, IF YOU DON'T HOVER OVER YOUR KID RIGHT NOW I WILL CALL THE POLICE" |
| 19:48.23 | jlp_znc | yeah. I'm glad my kids are all older. my youngest is almost 17. |
| 19:48.38 | keldwud | I should teach my daughter to kick those people in the crotch and punch them in the boob |
| 19:48.44 | keldwud | then accuse them of abducting her |
| 19:48.54 | keldwud | that will teach them to fuckin poke their nose at us |
| 19:49.41 | jlp_znc | there you go! |
| 19:49.50 | jlp_znc | "help help, this person is trying to kidnap me!!!" |
| 19:50.30 | jlp_znc | has your daughter had any martial arts training? |
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| 19:55.18 | harleypig | All she has to do is scream at the top of her lungs. |
| 19:55.41 | harleypig | Then talk calmly to the police (or you if you get there first). |
| 19:55.47 | keldwud | jlp_znc, yes. she's in karate |
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| 20:10.52 | shalkie_away | So on the note of police: I was really surprised to see SLC Mayor Becker fire Burbank. |
| 20:11.04 | shalkie_away | I thought he did an amazing job overall. |
| 20:11.38 | dumby | He didn't play ball with the mayor, and wouldn't read the prepared statement about the allegations |
| 20:11.42 | jlp_znc | he did, but he was "insubordinate" (meaning that he didn't let the mayor dictate how he ran the department) |
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| 20:11.52 | keldwud | omg |
| 20:12.07 | keldwud | I just let myself get dragged into an idiot war about how reddit is "not a forum" |
| 20:12.13 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 20:12.26 | keldwud | and at the same time, he linked me the wikipedia article on internet forums |
| 20:12.33 | keldwud | which explicitly describe reddit.... |
| 20:12.38 | keldwud | shakes head |
| 20:12.52 | jlp_znc | wikipedia is not an encyclopedia |
| 20:13.48 | keldwud | holy moly |
| 20:14.02 | keldwud | lol keldwud you could have saved a lot of hot air by just going to the wiki for reddit Reddit /ËrÉdɪt/,[6] stylized as reddit,[7] is an entertainment, social networking, and news website where registered community members can submit content, such as text posts or direct links, making it essentially an online bulletin board system. |
| 20:14.53 | keldwud | headdesks |
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| 20:17.32 | shalkie_away | shrugs |
| 20:18.44 | shalkie_away | I understand the argument for both of them. Becker decided that the officer needed to be fired, Burbank followed department policy and wouldn't budge. He said it would have been playing politics instead of following institutional rules. |
| 20:19.00 | keldwud | why was burbank fired? what was the reason given? |
| 20:19.03 | shalkie_away | Becker is over Burbank |
| 20:19.14 | keldwud | were they shooting people again? |
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| 20:20.05 | shalkie_away | http://fox13now.com/2015/06/11/mayor-becker-fires-salt-lake-city-pd-chief-chris-burbank/ |
| 20:22.03 | keldwud | hasn't burbank been around since the dark ages? |
| 20:22.08 | keldwud | it sure feels like he had been |
| 20:22.38 | jlp_znc | well, actually, he resigned in lieu of being fired. |
| 20:22.51 | keldwud | oh nice. he held them to a higher standard for women's rights |
| 20:22.54 | keldwud | bravo |
| 20:26.58 | keldwud | I like how the mayor just put his balls on the table and said "here you go, either deal with it or don't" |
| 20:28.23 | keldwud | looks like burbank was trying to call a bluff but the mayor wasn't actually bluffing |
| 20:29.14 | harleypig | So, Burbanks claims that he treated the situation according to policy doesn't mean anything? And refused to change his actions based on a politically motivated order. If a policy is wrong, it should be changed. Special treatment because of politics just weakens the policy. |
| 20:30.03 | jlp_znc | I agree. I think the mayor thought burbank was bluffing when he said he wouldn't change department policy for a political reason. |
| 20:30.08 | Tod-Work | yeah, if the policy is wrong, change the policy, don't get into a pissing contest |
| 20:30.25 | jlp_znc | so he gave the chief an ultimatum "do it my way or else" and the chief took "or else" |
| 20:30.38 | Tod-Work | and politics should not be THAT direct in any police activity |
| 20:30.39 | jlp_znc | election year crap |
| 20:31.02 | romanovic | I also think it is significant this is happening now instead of in 2013 when the PD originally handled the sexual harassment reports |
| 20:31.10 | keldwud | romanovic, good point |
| 20:31.11 | romanovic | what jlp_znc said |
| 20:31.13 | jlp_znc | well, 2013 wasn't an election year |
| 20:31.50 | keldwud | could also be that the mayor honestly wanted to try and work things out and it could have realistically taken that long to negotiate back and forth |
| 20:31.56 | romanovic | if Burbank was wrong in 2013, Mayor Becker could have taken action then |
| 20:32.26 | jlp_znc | but if he'd fired the chief in 2013, it would have been forgotten by now. |
| 20:32.46 | romanovic | It would be interesting to observe from inside the mayor's office. On the news they reported it as though this were a very sudden decision forced on Burbank |
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| 20:33.26 | keldwud | yeah, I doubt such decisions come so quickly |
| 20:33.32 | romanovic | like, he was called into the Mayor's office, given an ultimatum, and press were already waiting outside for Burbank to publicly read a letter |
| 20:36.15 | jlp_znc | yeah, that's the way it sounded to me. |
| 20:36.40 | jlp_znc | he was given three options: read a letter at a press conference that had already been called for the purpose, get fired, or resign. |
| 20:36.51 | jlp_znc | I'd like to know what the letter said. |
| 20:37.22 | romanovic | "Burbank claims he had no idea Thursday would be his last day as police chief. In fact, when he was told he couldn't wear his uniform at his impromptu press conference, he realized he didn't have other clothes to change into." |
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| 21:05.02 | youtah | ~fling harleypig |
| 21:05.02 | infobot | ACTION flings poo at harleypig |
| 21:05.38 | harleypig | 'fling harleypig' and 'flings poo at harleypig' evoke two completely different mental images. |
| 21:05.48 | harleypig | ~fling youtah |
| 21:05.48 | infobot | ACTION flings poo at youtah |
| 21:05.52 | harleypig | meh |
| 21:06.00 | harleypig | ~fling |
| 21:06.05 | Tod-Work | "fling harleypig" could mean a lot of things, none of which I'd like to try |
| 21:06.20 | harleypig | ~fling the channel |
| 21:06.20 | infobot | ACTION flings poo at the channel |
| 21:06.55 | harleypig | Brown Spots On the Wall by Who Flung Poo |
| 21:07.05 | harleypig | Yellow River by I.P. Daily. |
| 21:07.13 | harleypig | Rusty Bedsprings by I.P. Nightly |
| 21:21.58 | goozbach | the yellow waterfall by I. P. Freely |
| 21:29.47 | Tod-Work | Good to see we're all 12-year-olds |
| 21:30.05 | jlp_znc | well, you know. |
| 21:31.24 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxWYsEojlAA |
| 21:32.38 | bregalad | ~napoleon Tod-Work |
| 21:32.38 | infobot | ACTION makes Tod-Work his secret service captain |
| 21:33.04 | jlp_znc | sorry about the shaky-cam... I'm not sure why that guy videoed his tv. |
| 21:33.50 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkPGlVqqEP0 <- not shaky, but massively pixelated |
| 21:36.05 | Tod-Work | gotta beat google's filters somehow |
| 21:36.18 | Tod-Work | best I've seen is just reversing the image left-to-right |
| 21:36.56 | jlp_znc | if you have a three gallon bucket, and a five gallon bucket, how many buckets do you have? |
| 21:48.36 | shalkie_away | looks in wonder at the buckets that just appeared in a poof of smoke |
| 21:49.14 | shalkie_away | ~sorcer jlp_znc |
| 21:49.30 | shalkie_away | ~sorcerer jlp_znc |
| 21:49.37 | shalkie_away | blah. |
| 21:49.45 | jlp_znc | ~witch jlp_znc |
| 21:49.53 | jlp_znc | ~witch |
| 21:49.58 | jlp_znc | hmmm |
| 21:50.15 | jlp_znc | infobot: witch is <reply>"She's a witch! Burn her!" |
| 21:50.15 | infobot | jlp_znc: okay |
| 21:50.20 | jlp_znc | ~witch |
| 21:50.20 | infobot | "She's a witch! Burn her!" |
| 21:50.39 | jlp_znc | infobot: no, witch is <reply>She's a witch! Burn her! |
| 21:50.39 | infobot | jlp_znc: okay |
| 21:50.43 | jlp_znc | ~witch |
| 21:50.43 | infobot | She's a witch! Burn her! |
| 21:50.53 | goozbach | mah bukkit! |
| 21:51.47 | goozbach | http://new3.fjcdn.com/comments/Never+try+to+take+mah+bukkit++_e127b4a46700c8d22cacbf8d95df9ff2.png |
| 21:52.53 | shalkie_away | I wonder what that sealion has in the bucket... |
| 21:53.09 | shalkie_away | I am thinking malt liqour. |
| 21:54.01 | shalkie_away | Tounge out, clutching the bucket, swaying back a bit... |
| 21:54.22 | jlp_znc | heel-toeing it... if he had heels and toes |
| 21:55.28 | keldwud | oh hey, speaking of malt liquor |
| 21:55.34 | keldwud | today is payday AND I don't work this weekend |
| 21:55.42 | keldwud | time to get my groove on :) |
| 21:55.48 | Tod-Work | which means you'll go house-hunting to see my house! |
| 21:56.19 | shalkie_away | I wonder if the sea lion knows what it's like getting picked up in bars by drunks: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a98_1230247258 |
| 21:56.44 | shalkie_away | Frankly not the way I expected it to end. |
| 21:56.55 | shalkie_away | keldwud: You have money _AND_ time? |
| 21:57.51 | shalkie_away | I need money and labor in the yard... |
| 21:58.06 | jlp_znc | you could give me your money, that would sovle your problem. |
| 21:58.09 | shalkie_away | I mean if your bored and burdened by money. |
| 21:58.23 | jlp_znc | s/sovle/solve/ |
| 21:58.28 | jlp_znc | s/your/my/ |
| 21:58.33 | jlp_znc | ack! |
| 21:58.36 | jlp_znc | well, that didn't work |
| 21:58.38 | bregalad | lol |
| 21:58.48 | jlp_znc | dang it |
| 21:58.54 | jlp_znc | ~dang |
| 21:58.55 | infobot | dawg |
| 21:59.23 | keldwud | shalkie_away, well I might not have time |
| 21:59.27 | keldwud | because 7 year old daughter |
| 21:59.30 | keldwud | but I can pretend |
| 21:59.43 | keldwud | also, my karate instructor just told me my 7 year old daughter needs to "cover up" |
| 22:01.19 | jlp_znc | as in, keep her guard up better? |
| 22:01.35 | keldwud | nope |
| 22:01.39 | jlp_znc | rats |
| 22:01.39 | keldwud | as in she had too much skin showying |
| 22:01.41 | shalkie_away | Well if she is going to rob art museums it is good to cover up your tracks. |
| 22:01.51 | keldwud | shit, she could run around shirtless and I wouldn't have any fucks to give |
| 22:02.02 | keldwud | she's a kid |
| 22:02.16 | keldwud | anybody that looks at a kid and thinks "oh that kid needs to cover up, that's too sexual" |
| 22:02.23 | keldwud | well.. that's kind of weird to sexualize kids like that |
| 22:02.58 | keldwud | when I look at kids I don't think of anything sexual, so why does it matter how what they are wearing? I mean, there is the common decency that we don't show the world our genitals |
| 22:03.08 | keldwud | cuz genitals offend people somethin fierce |
| 22:03.32 | keldwud | but a 7 year old girl in a sun dress that doesn't cover her nipples when she runs around? |
| 22:03.39 | keldwud | I could care less |
| 22:03.40 | jlp_znc | people offend people somethin fierce |
| 22:03.44 | shalkie_away | Well they do just sort of sit there and flop around a bit. I mean it is offensive. |
| 22:03.48 | Tod-Work | is offended |
| 22:04.02 | keldwud | genitals are beautiful! not ugly! |
| 22:04.03 | Tod-Work | by all things |
| 22:04.04 | Tod-Work | all of them |
| 22:04.15 | keldwud | sucks we live in a time and age where we have to feel ashamed of our bodies |
| 22:04.22 | keldwud | and the damage that they can cause |
| 22:04.31 | keldwud | but I get it |
| 22:04.37 | keldwud | to many people nudity = sexuality |
| 22:04.44 | keldwud | and sexuality = nudity |
| 22:04.45 | shalkie_away | Ah I was trying to sarcastily suggest that genitalia themselves do not cause offence but people place the offensive attribute upon them. |
| 22:05.10 | keldwud | shalkie_away, oh I got it. I was just running with Poe :) |
| 22:05.28 | keldwud | speaking of which.... |
| 22:05.34 | keldwud | offensive attributes and all |
| 22:05.46 | keldwud | might want to kick me later tonight if I come in here drunk |
| 22:05.47 | shalkie_away | Is Poe coming to town? And She also has a provo connection. |
| 22:06.02 | keldwud | I've had a bad habit of helicocktering while drunk |
| 22:06.17 | bregalad | So Poe's corpse came back as a woman? |
| 22:06.30 | jlp_znc | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0zTzXPQVdBY/VW7OXuKf73I/AAAAAAAAEPU/olBpRqtUzos/w318-h275-no/tumblr_no77ztvktW1terwlso1_400.gif |
| 22:06.38 | jlp_znc | sorry, that took too long to find |
| 22:07.10 | shalkie_away | Damn shadow organizations! |
| 22:07.40 | shalkie_away | is to scared to lookup up helicocktering online.... |
| 22:08.23 | jlp_znc | so am I... at work, anyway. |
| 22:08.31 | keldwud | yeah, don't google it |
| 22:08.33 | shalkie_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_%28singer%29 |
| 22:11.29 | keldwud | jammin out to fifth harmony's worth it |
| 22:11.34 | keldwud | I really dig this song |
| 22:11.41 | keldwud | I love bass-y songs :) |
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| 23:05.19 | levi | I remember Angry Johnny, but I don't know if I am familiar with the rest of Poe's songs. |
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| 23:49.28 | shalkie_away | Levi: I like them, but then that is just me. There was a version of Haunted that was very popular for a while with her brother doing poetry in it. |
