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| 00:01.47 | goozbach | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xrnIXQ3iQ |
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| 00:46.16 | eightyeight | goozbach: we never had any coraid hardware. we only worked with the AoE software stack |
| 00:46.29 | eightyeight | i was seriously considering the hardware though |
| 00:46.43 | levi | Yay, my bare-metal microcontroller code has reached "Hello world!" stage. |
| 00:54.46 | jima | i was seriously considering the hardware, too, but my employer at the time was a cheap-ass. |
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| 02:52.44 | RyanE | levi: What architecture are you using? |
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| 03:04.12 | TodPunk | levi: you going to LL or LDUG this week? |
| 03:04.15 | TodPunk | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? |
| 03:04.24 | TodPunk | I know you want to learn you some K |
| 03:04.56 | klys | are either of those in provo |
| 03:19.46 | klys | are they both lehi |
| 03:23.27 | klys | couldnt find llug on the web... |
| 03:25.44 | RyanE | Lambda Lounge Utah? |
| 03:26.39 | RyanE | Tod is signed up for that one, so I suspect that's it. |
| 03:27.45 | klys | oh, it's in sandy |
| 03:27.47 | klys | thanks |
| 03:27.50 | RyanE | np |
| 03:28.09 | RyanE | I've never been to LL, nor LDUG, although I'm tempted to go to LDUG this week. |
| 03:28.33 | RyanE | tempted to ride my bike there. I assume there's bike lockage at Adobe... |
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| 06:00.23 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 13:03.56 | keldwud | how many of us are playing ingress? I saw a bsides tshirt in one of the photos for the slc ingress event so I'm sure there are a few of us in here. I just started playing |
| 13:46.14 | Migs | http://www.designboom.com/shop/design/eyeteleporter-04-15-2015/ |
| 13:48.02 | levi | RyanE: A Freescale PPC chip. They're big in the automotive space. |
| 14:04.34 | levi | TodPunk: I'm planning on LL... what's LDUG, again? |
| 14:05.09 | RyanE | Lehi Developer Users Group, apparently. |
| 14:05.11 | RyanE | At Adobe, Wednesday 6:30pm |
| 14:05.17 | levi | Ah, I'd seen that pop up, but haven't been. |
| 14:05.22 | RyanE | me either. |
| 14:05.58 | levi | Lambda Lounge is great, though. |
| 14:06.19 | RyanE | I've thought about going from time to time, but it just hasn't worked out. |
| 14:06.32 | RyanE | I've hit the AngularJS one a couple of times. |
| 14:06.46 | RyanE | Pretty sure you could live on the free calories of the various meetups. |
| 14:09.39 | levi | No kidding. :) |
| 14:10.31 | levi | Hmm, the LDUG tomorrow has John Earnest talking about K. No wonder TodPunk was asking. |
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| 14:16.57 | RyanE | Yeah, hated APL in college, but I'd be interested in seeing the presentation. |
| 14:18.02 | RyanE | Any language that's indistinguisable from line noise should make a good presentation: (!R)@&{&/x!/:2_!x}'!R |
| 14:20.49 | levi | I once learned enough J to tweet some code that was smaller than what other people were tweeting for a little problem. |
| 14:21.56 | levi | It's not terribly different from point-free Haskell or Forth or whatever, just takes a bit more memorization work up front to get the vocabulary down. |
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| 14:37.22 | Tod-Work | levi, indeed, you should go |
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| 17:28.12 | Splix76 | Anyone in here have experience running OpenStack on CentOS 7 with SELinux enabled? I am starting a POC build and would appreciate any feedback people are wiling to provide on it. |
| 17:28.41 | Splix76 | I have 4 (older) servers ready to go for this. Going with Cent7 x64 minimal and following the guide for install provided. |
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| 20:16.27 | jalbretsen | The key word for recruiter today is "evasive". |
| 20:16.35 | jalbretsen | Me: What else do you have on the company itself (including a name), work environment, and benefits? |
| 20:17.00 | jalbretsen | Them: What type of work environment and benefits are you looking for? |
| 20:17.59 | RyanE | "no work, lots of benefits" |
| 20:27.14 | unum | at yapc there's a company headquaterted in amsterdam that's claiming pretty good work/benefits balance |
| 20:27.33 | unum | I think there was a claim about parents only have to work 4 days a week |
| 20:27.49 | unum | it's weird being the cheap foreign labor...... |
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| 21:00.15 | jalbretsen | ah, I found the mystery voicemail this recruiter left before the email. It was transferred to the wrong person at work. The idea that a recruiter would try to contact someone through their current employer seems..... unprofessional. And desperate. |
| 21:03.17 | joshh | many recruiters are |
| 21:03.47 | joshh | all we can do is just be glad to have that problem and move on with our lives |
| 21:04.35 | joshh | lots of other people can't basically be guaranteed an interview somewhere just by replying to an email |
| 21:05.10 | unum | ya that's a good point. I'm glad they're desperate for people like me |
| 21:17.50 | jalbretsen | ha, ya, it's good to be needed. I hope it stays that way until I retire. |
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| 21:24.35 | joshh | heh, technology isn't going to slow down for too long anytime soon, unless the world ends or something |
| 21:25.49 | joshh | we just have to keep current and never stop learning, and not get too grumpy to pay attention to the new shiny cool stuff |
| 21:27.30 | joshh | because that stuff tends to become required skills a couple years after all the old people scoff at it |
| 21:29.20 | bregalad | but some new stuff is just drivel |
| 21:29.21 | bregalad | :) |
| 21:30.24 | jalbretsen | senses a systemd vs SysV war coming.... |
| 21:31.40 | Tod-Work | joshh, there's something to be said for not immediately following the shiny things, too. Plenty out there to maintain, plenty out there doesn't want the risk. |
| 21:32.11 | Tod-Work | Never just one way, I guess |
| 21:33.38 | joshh | sure, its just important to not become unhireable due to stubborn refusals |
| 21:34.24 | joshh | usually the stuff that's truly awful stops getting significant traction eventually, or won't be important at a lot of possible companies to look at |
| 21:34.37 | asoc | j |
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| 21:38.07 | Tod-Work | aye |
| 21:47.27 | bregalad | even then I don't willingly subject myself to things like php if I don't have to |
| 21:50.57 | joshh | of course, that would actively hurt your career |
| 21:59.15 | joshh | not only do you not want php on your resume, but if anyone at work finds out you know it, you might be asked to use that knowledge for some random php thing |
| 21:59.59 | joshh | like we use phabricator, and a couple poor souls are the go to people for any customizations |
| 22:00.06 | joshh | because they once said they knew php |
| 22:00.14 | joshh | and nobody forgets |
| 22:01.08 | joshh | even though in reality anyone could do it if their life depended on it |
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| 22:19.50 | Tod-Work | uh, "I know PHP. No, I won't work on that random piece of junk open source project you decided to use. Replace it with the Right Thing(tm) now or get support from your contract with the supplier. You have one of those, right?" |
| 22:19.54 | Tod-Work | I'm not popular |
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| 22:27.53 | bregalad | :) |
| 22:28.26 | joshh | ya these poor people are nicer than you, and we take advantage |
| 22:28.48 | joshh | but phabricator is a nice suite despite being php |
| 22:31.28 | Tod-Work | joshh, yes, and: http://phabricator.org/support/ |
| 22:31.52 | Tod-Work | but I too would take advantage of the spineless, I'm sure |
| 22:32.06 | Tod-Work | "Hahahaha, you know PHP! DO MY BIDDING!!!" |
| 22:33.15 | Tod-Work | "No, it's not true, I don't know PHP, I can't-" "You DO! You sent this email 4 years, 3 months, 17 days ago in which you mention you'll just edit the PHP on our Wordpress site, because you wouldn't mind a refresher anyways! MUAHAHAHA!" |
| 22:33.52 | Tod-Work | "You can't make me!" "If you don't, we'll all awkwardly stare at you in the halls!" |
| 22:34.08 | Tod-Work | </dramatic_reading> |
| 22:35.04 | joshh | pretty much |
| 22:36.38 | shalkie_away | I saw a posting for PHP and Java internships. My instant thought was "They do internships for PHP?" |
| 22:42.30 | shalkie_away | Butter Microwave Popcorn + Chili Garlic Cholula = :) |
| 22:44.17 | asoc | shalkie_away: Siracha is pretty good with microwave popcorn is great as well. |
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| 23:03.16 | unum | larry wall just said with certain [...] exceptions like php, evolution usually takes care of languages that should exist |
| 23:03.28 | unum | I thought that fit well with previous conversation |
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| 23:08.48 | unum | youtah: are you at the q&a |
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| 23:20.57 | youtah | no |
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