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| 08:08.16 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference May 7-9, 2015! http://www.openwest.org/ |
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| 17:11.08 | levi | Anyone here have experience doing automation of Windows images from a Linux environment? I've got some rough stuff set up, but it's... rough. |
| 17:11.30 | jima | i understand there's some kind of puppet client for windows? |
| 17:11.45 | levi | I'm using these for automated CI builds of stuff that has Windows build tools. |
| 17:11.48 | jima | i haven't tried it at all...not sure if it uses desired state configuration or what |
| 17:12.11 | jima | Q_Continuum knows more about that than i do |
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| 17:13.11 | levi | Vagrant seems to know how to do Windows Remoting stuff natively, but I know very little about Windows Remoting. |
| 17:13.24 | levi | And, seriously... "Remoting"? |
| 17:14.04 | Q_Continuum | There is a puppet client for Windows...I played with it a year+ ago? |
| 17:14.25 | Q_Continuum | It didn't use DSC that I know of at that time...the intent was to tie the two together though |
| 17:15.02 | Q_Continuum | So that Puppet could manage either its own client or DSC |
| 17:15.33 | Q_Continuum | No idea where that went, I'm intending to keep Puppet and DSC independent of each other. |
| 17:18.00 | bregalad | salt on windows is pretty good :-) |
| 17:18.13 | levi | When you say DSC, do you mean it in the sense of the general way of doing configuration, or some specific implementation of it? |
| 17:19.37 | jlp_znc | We used something for that at Raytheon... youtah might remember more about it (but he's not here right now). |
| 17:19.47 | Q_Continuum | DSC as in PowerShell DSC |
| 17:19.56 | levi | Ahh, OK. |
| 17:20.34 | Q_Continuum | That's their official name of the feature |
| 17:20.39 | jlp_znc | I think the thing we used could automate moving the mouse and clicking on stuff. I don't really know much about it, other than that it existed. |
| 17:20.51 | levi | I watched some MS presentation on that a while back, but I lacked the context to get any specific stuff out of it aside from the general idea of what they were planning. |
| 17:21.07 | RyanE | this named by the same company that brought you '95 and '98. |
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| 17:21.49 | Q_Continuum | PS 4.0 introduced it, 5.0 (built into 10, being released for 2012 R2 and at least 2008 R2, not sure on 2008 or 2012) will improve on it a ton |
| 17:22.25 | levi | Also, the XBox, XBox360, and XBox One. I tried to explain *that* versioning scheme to my son, and he was *really* confused. |
| 17:23.36 | levi | So, DSC is distinct from (or builds on, maybe?) the "Windows Remoting" stuff, right? |
| 17:24.26 | RyanE | XBox, XBox II, XBox III. |
| 17:24.45 | RyanE | XBox IV: Electric Boogaloo. |
| 17:25.34 | bregalad | YBox pi |
| 17:25.51 | bregalad | ZTesseract |
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| 17:32.05 | Q_Continuum | levi: PowerShell Remoting? Yeah, that's like SSH; DSC is PS related but they're different 'options'. |
| 17:38.03 | levi | Do you recall when PowerShell Remoting was introduced? |
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| 17:57.47 | levi | Hmm, seems to be supported in this version I have installed on my XP image. |
| 17:59.13 | spangborn | New Pebble! |
| 17:59.20 | spangborn | Now if they'd just get the iOS app in the App Store. |
| 17:59.33 | spangborn | Temporarily a paperweight. |
| 18:00.06 | levi | I'm not sure I could see myself wearing any of the current gen smartwatches. |
| 18:01.11 | keldwud | I think I did pretty good at my interview today. have a good feeling about it |
| 18:01.18 | levi | keldwud: Cool. :) |
| 18:01.48 | keldwud | third time applying at blue host :) it has always been for different positions. each one progressively higher than the last |
| 18:02.07 | bregalad | just tell them you want to be in charge |
| 18:02.08 | keldwud | I didn't reach out to them, though. one of their recruiters found me on linked in and asked me to apply |
| 18:02.20 | keldwud | bregalad, heh. I think I gave that impression :) |
| 18:02.34 | keldwud | which is what they wanted for the position. needed somebody to take charge of the DC. |
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| 18:08.09 | Jayce^ | heh.. "take charge" would be funny |
| 18:22.47 | RyanE | spangborn: you could give it to me. I'm still "processing"... |
| 18:22.59 | spangborn | Haha. |
| 18:23.05 | spangborn | Mine says that too, I think |
| 18:23.05 | RyanE | and I'm Android... :) |
| 18:23.22 | RyanE | What backer # were you? I'm like 21k, so I hold no hope of being in the first 'batch'. |
| 18:23.27 | spangborn | 21. |
| 18:23.31 | RyanE | ha! |
| 18:23.35 | RyanE | nice |
| 18:23.41 | spangborn | :) |
| 18:23.47 | RyanE | and you're a second-time backer, I assume. |
| 18:23.53 | spangborn | Yep. |
| 18:24.33 | RyanE | I already have the updated app loaded on my phone, in anticipation. I may have to uninstall. It just reminds me that I don't have it yet. :) |
| 18:24.38 | RyanE | What color did you go with? |
| 18:25.43 | spangborn | Black. |
| 18:25.47 | spangborn | Figured it was the most versatile. |
| 18:25.51 | RyanE | me too. |
| 18:25.54 | spangborn | I really like the red, but I went red last time. |
| 18:26.02 | spangborn | So my PT and PTS are both black. |
| 18:26.09 | RyanE | sadly, you can't do anything with the watch with no app, can't do anything with the app with no watch. |
| 18:26.28 | RyanE | I didn't jump on the PTS, but I may buy one in $TIME_X from now. |
| 18:26.43 | spangborn | The PT looks nice. Can only imagine how nice the PTS looks |
| 18:26.45 | RyanE | I wish you could at least browse faces with the app... |
| 18:27.12 | spangborn | You can't on Android? I seemed to think you could, at least with the old one |
| 18:27.20 | spangborn | They must have changed that with the new app. |
| 18:27.22 | RyanE | no, I don't think so. |
| 18:28.05 | RyanE | Gets to a 'Pair Pebble Time' screen, can't go further. |
| 18:28.19 | spangborn | I wonder if the Food Truck League in Sugarhouse will get shut down. |
| 18:28.33 | spangborn | They had nearly all of their trucks get closed by the health dept the last time I went |
| 18:33.15 | keldwud | Jayce^, I think they were looking for somebody to start some projects that needed to be started as far as organizing things and creating some processes |
| 18:33.41 | keldwud | and the junior guy is on his way out to a different building |
| 18:34.17 | keldwud | at least the guy interviewing me was honest about the situation. he warned me that asset tracking is pretty much at spreadsheet status |
| 18:34.31 | keldwud | so I'd have a tedious project right off the bat. |
| 18:34.39 | keldwud | which is fine. that can be fun and all :) |
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| 18:39.17 | Q_Continuum | levi: PowerShell REmoting is a PS 2.0 feature |
| 18:39.29 | Q_Continuum | Enhanced some with 3.0, IIRC |
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| 19:04.04 | keldwud | so my 7 year old daughter had her third run-in with the cops today |
| 19:04.16 | keldwud | I let her go into a store to buy something with her own money |
| 19:04.34 | keldwud | and she's browsing, not even touching the merchandise, and the store clerk decides to call mall security on her |
| 19:04.41 | keldwud | it's almost like it's illegal to be a kid! |
| 19:04.45 | keldwud | and to be out in public |
| 19:04.57 | keldwud | what kind of insane culture do I live in? |
| 19:05.21 | keldwud | where a 7 year old can't browse a store freely without being harassed by the cops. |
| 19:05.31 | Q_Continuum | THINKOFTHECHILDREN |
| 19:05.31 | Tod-Work | Provo, man |
| 19:05.32 | keldwud | I'm seriously going to take this up with my city |
| 19:05.33 | keldwud | I'm sick of it |
| 19:05.33 | Tod-Work | Provo |
| 19:05.35 | keldwud | seriously |
| 19:05.39 | keldwud | I'm going to raise hell about this issue |
| 19:05.41 | keldwud | it's bull crap |
| 19:05.47 | keldwud | and it's damaging to childhood development |
| 19:06.01 | Tod-Work | it IS a lawsuit in the making |
| 19:06.29 | keldwud | and it's damaging to society, long term, because then you have a bunch of dysfunctional adults who can't do anything because they weren't ever allowed the freedom to learn how to do things by themselves |
| 19:06.55 | bregalad | one of my maxims is to not live in provo |
| 19:07.12 | keldwud | yeah, we got into a charter shool here |
| 19:07.14 | keldwud | *school |
| 19:07.17 | keldwud | so I'm stuck |
| 19:07.42 | bregalad | but I'm sure you'd have issues like that in many other places |
| 19:07.59 | keldwud | yeah, it's all across America |
| 19:08.21 | keldwud | are there other first world countries that are this bad with helicoptering? |
| 19:08.24 | keldwud | or is it just us? |
| 19:08.37 | keldwud | because we live in fear |
| 19:08.39 | keldwud | constantly |
| 19:08.51 | keldwud | it's almost like we're conditioned to it |
| 19:11.02 | jalbretsen | bangs head on desk |
| 19:11.27 | jalbretsen | A CTO would sure be nice to make these decisions we we don't keep running around in circles.... |
| 19:11.43 | keldwud | can I be your CTO? |
| 19:11.44 | keldwud | :) |
| 19:12.01 | jalbretsen | I'm of course talking about a TV Show. |
| 19:12.39 | keldwud | ahh |
| 19:12.45 | bregalad | that's the problem there |
| 19:13.09 | bregalad | people expect cops and feds to behave like they do in TV shows |
| 19:13.28 | bregalad | the more arrogant bluster the better |
| 19:18.37 | fozzmoo | keldwud: That's nuts. Just think what the City of Provo would have done had they found out you let your kids walk, like, 2 blocks, to a park, by themselves! |
| 19:18.41 | jlp_znc | don't forget running around with your gun drawn all the time. oh, wait, that's the crime scene investigation job |
| 19:19.32 | keldwud | fozzmoo, well when I let her walk three blocks to the bus stop, the police brought her back to my house instead of allowing her to go to school |
| 19:19.59 | bregalad | jlp_znc: no, that's how real utahns roll in 'ordinary' life |
| 19:20.46 | bregalad | maybe not drawn, but capriciously hazarded, which is almost as good |
| 19:20.55 | jalbretsen | jlp_znc: Get it right, my phasor or sonic screwdriver would be drawn |
| 19:21.19 | bregalad | now a sonic screwdriver is not a weapon :-) |
| 19:21.32 | fozzmoo | keldwud: So, what happened when the security people came? |
| 19:21.36 | fozzmoo | What did they do? |
| 19:22.22 | keldwud | well they walked in right before I did |
| 19:22.30 | keldwud | so I walked in as they were asking her where her parents were |
| 19:22.38 | keldwud | she said "my daddy's right there" |
| 19:23.18 | fozzmoo | So, major stupidity averted. |
| 19:23.46 | keldwud | yup |
| 19:24.17 | keldwud | I told my daughter that her whole life she's going to have to deal with cops if she plans on being independent and unique |
| 19:24.26 | keldwud | it comes with the territory |
| 19:24.56 | keldwud | sucks that a 7 year old has to learn that they will be harassed their whole lives, but I don't know how else to prepare her for the real world |
| 19:25.51 | fozzmoo | I'm glad you were there when you were. Asking an unaccompanied minor where their parents are... that's not all that inappropriate. |
| 19:26.13 | fozzmoo | But I have a feeling if you hadn't been there, inappropriateness would likely have ensued. |
| 19:26.41 | bregalad | when all you have is weapons, everything looks like a target |
| 19:28.58 | Q_Continuum | So how does that explain the retailer? |
| 19:29.19 | RyanE | idiocy knows no boundaries. |
| 19:29.27 | RyanE | You'll find non-free-range idiots everywhere. |
| 19:30.26 | levi | Whee, I finally figured out how to get winrm working on an XP machine. |
| 19:31.46 | jlp_znc | winrm? what does that do, remove windows? |
| 19:31.52 | jlp_znc | hopes |
| 19:31.57 | levi | Windows Remote Management |
| 19:32.26 | levi | Lets you run PowerShell commands remotely. |
| 19:32.35 | jlp_znc | ahh |
| 19:34.31 | levi | It's the 'Network access: Sharing and security model for local accounts' key in the local security settings. |
| 19:35.25 | levi | By default, anyone connecting via the network gets mapped to the Guest account unless you change that setting to 'Classic'. |
| 19:36.05 | levi | This makes sense, but I didn't actually find it documented anywhere. |
| 19:39.44 | Migs | this dude probably gets all kinds of ladies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU |
| 19:53.35 | RyanE | but mainly for his nunchuck skillz. |
| 19:54.54 | bregalad | ~napoleon |
| 19:54.56 | infobot | Wait, I forgot the crystals. |
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| 22:52.33 | unum | http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/01/411231029/here-are-100-eggcorns-that-we-say-pass-mustard |
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| 23:18.32 | frostyfrog | Note to self : 1 GB of data on this new phone probably isn't enough >< |