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| 14:57.42 | frostyfrog | To everyone who participated/attended/helped at OpenWest, thank you! This year's conference was a good one :) (Though I'm a bit biased, I've only ever been to OpenWest and haven't attended any other conferences) |
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| 15:17.11 | unum | I enjoyed it aswell |
| 15:20.28 | RyanE | hear hear |
| 15:21.20 | bregalad | smell smell |
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| 15:24.21 | Jayce^ | begins waking up post conference... |
| 15:25.22 | fadein | great conference, everybody! |
| 15:28.24 | frostyfrog | claps |
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| 15:33.48 | Migs | it was awesome! |
| 15:34.53 | Migs | needed a much bigger space for the keynotes, though |
| 15:34.56 | Migs | but I don't know an easy way around that |
| 15:35.24 | RyanE | and maybe a moving walkway that takes you from the parking lot to the keynote area. |
| 15:35.46 | Migs | And shuttle services from the hotel |
| 15:35.56 | RyanE | or my house |
| 15:35.57 | Migs | screw the parking lot |
| 15:36.02 | Migs | or my room |
| 15:36.04 | RyanE | and maybe less rain. |
| 15:36.15 | RyanE | but other than that, fantastic. |
| 15:36.17 | Migs | someone can come up and carry me. I'll even allow being put in a wheelchair |
| 15:40.05 | Jayce^ | yeah, we setting the live streaming to work around the fact that that's the biggest event room we're getting without significantly jacking up the price and moving :( |
| 15:40.26 | RyanE | rather watch it on livestream than pay more... :) |
| 15:41.42 | Jayce^ | btw, if you ever agree to do a keynote, plz send your slides ahead of time.. kthxbai |
| 15:41.53 | RyanE | heh. have an issue with that? |
| 15:41.57 | Jayce^ | several |
| 15:41.58 | frostyfrog | x3 |
| 15:42.18 | frostyfrog | That fedora one was great! |
| 15:42.48 | Jayce^ | friggen google refused to open her slides |
| 15:43.08 | Jayce^ | had updated them /right/ before starting |
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| 15:45.02 | frostyfrog | Ah, I was referring to the mention of RH trying to keep things stable, than the PC hung. That was the most noticable one, I didn't notice hardly any other keynote issues. |
| 15:45.33 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo did, because he was trying to screen cap.. |
| 15:45.48 | Jayce^ | they made his life more difficult |
| 15:45.49 | RyanE | I decided to pick "sleep in" over keynotes the second day. |
| 15:46.03 | RyanE | which is almost always the right answer, IMHO. :) |
| 15:47.19 | frostyfrog | really missed out on taking pics/movies of the drone before the start of the keynotes on Day 2 :/ I'll be more on my toes next year. |
| 15:50.38 | frostyfrog | Which keynote did fozzmoo do? |
| 15:51.54 | Jayce^ | he ran the media for all of them |
| 15:52.20 | frostyfrog | Oh x3 |
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| 16:01.15 | frostyfrog | Yeah, that makes a lot more sense when I read it with the right context. |
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| 16:38.21 | fozzmoo | ~lart goozbach |
| 16:38.21 | infobot | takes out goozbach with the trash |
| 16:39.16 | bregalad | ~napoleon fozzmoo |
| 16:39.17 | infobot | ACTION eats all of fozzmoo's steak |
| 16:40.04 | eightyeight | ~linux |
| 16:40.05 | infobot | Is there a system of Linux for Mobile HTC s630 Instead of Microsoft Windows 6? |
| 17:00.50 | bregalad | ~napoleon |
| 17:00.50 | infobot | It's a liger, bred for its skills in magic. |
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| 17:20.44 | Migs | http://gfycat.com/FinishedScratchyFoxhound What a great game! |
| 17:29.41 | jalbretsen | I've never used Cold Fusion, so question.... does it not like it when a web server tries to tell it what encryption to use? Or perhaps does it not like it if Apache is configured to try stronger encryption protocols before weaker ones (maybe it tries so many and then gives up before finding one it likes)? |
| 17:31.40 | jalbretsen | I ask because when I try to use the openssl command to test a particular cipher, it's happy. But my client's Cold Fusion barks at it and refuses to work so I have to revert Apache back to a weaker configuration where it doesn't have a order preference. I've seen this twice now with Cold Fusion. |
| 17:40.03 | frostyfrog | chose not to respond due to the fact that they have never worked with ColdFusion. |
| 17:45.48 | jlp_znc | I suspect ColdFusion might just not support newer versions of ssl. |
| 17:48.02 | jlp_znc | http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2009/2/24/CF-SSL30-Authorize-net <- might be helpful |
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| 18:07.41 | bregalad | I'm listening to 4 different recordings to Bach's sonatas and partitas |
| 18:07.53 | bregalad | in series |
| 18:08.14 | bregalad | a few times, probably, this should take me all week |
| 18:08.23 | bregalad | then I'll tell you what the best one is |
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| 18:52.28 | youtah | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11022514_10206901862289294_4591323320796068684_n.jpg?oh=cccdf93b0167fde8f285301a805baa26&oe=55C42E41&__gda__=1438678103_d441024ef4881869a5b031ea67911853 |
| 18:52.50 | youtah | h/t undertakingyou |
| 19:05.09 | eightyeight | that would have worked, like, 10 years ago |
| 19:05.24 | eightyeight | "--no-preserve-root" is required new |
| 19:05.27 | eightyeight | s/new/now/ |
| 19:08.31 | Tod-Work | linux has gone soft |
| 19:10.35 | frostyfrog | Or rather, GNU tools have. Don't the know that we like being able to accidently start fresh? |
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| 19:13.56 | Migs | youtah: Luckily that no longer works for Ubuntu users |
| 19:14.15 | Migs | oh, eightyeight already basically said that |
| 19:14.53 | youtah | "<Tod-Work> linux has gone soft" << Yes |
| 19:16.14 | eightyeight | iirc, it was implemented in gnu coreutils 6.10 |
| 19:18.05 | eightyeight | http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commit;h=19c28b06a09bcb2763280cc6193a5fd158cefdb1 |
| 19:18.40 | eightyeight | er |
| 19:18.42 | eightyeight | http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commit;h=34e3ea055721ecc72e6f636700e8ba7b58069c65 |
| 19:18.44 | eightyeight | ^ that one |
| 19:22.53 | Tod-Work | shakes a fist in the air at jim Meyering |
| 19:24.27 | eightyeight | supposedly, it was implemented first in solaris 10, before landing in gnu |
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| 19:27.07 | weedpatch2 | cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda |
| 19:28.38 | bregalad | dog /dev/zero > /dev/sda |
| 19:28.38 | frostyfrog | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda |
| 19:31.35 | eightyeight | ~linux |
| 19:31.35 | infobot | Was hackmii installer also made in Linux? |
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| 19:36.12 | bwinterton | n |
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| 19:39.52 | bwinterton | Haha sorry, I meant to type in a command, forgot the backslash :/ |
| 19:45.47 | harleypig | Feh. Does anyone know ruby well enough to tell me how to set the -j option to nproc+1 ? I have a single cpu vps and vagrant plugin berkshelf is trying to use make -j 5, which is killing my vbox. |
| 19:46.29 | harleypig | s/set the -j/set the make -j/ |
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| 20:04.37 | bregalad | that's lame |
| 20:06.48 | bregalad | I would tell the packager to fix their naive installer |
| 20:07.00 | harleypig | Yeah. What's worse, #ruby and #rubygems isn't answering me. |
| 20:07.15 | harleypig | It's not the package I don't think. This has happened with several gems |
| 20:07.25 | bregalad | hm |
| 20:07.34 | bregalad | is there an environment variable? |
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| 20:07.45 | harleypig | Not that I can see. |
| 20:07.47 | harleypig | or find. |
| 20:07.47 | bregalad | gentoo uses MAKEOPTS to control such things |
| 20:08.44 | harleypig | yeah, but MAKEOPTS is part of gentoo's build system |
| 20:09.10 | bregalad | what happens if you try MAKEFLAGS='-j2' |
| 20:09.23 | bregalad | MAKEFLAGS='-j2' do_ruby_things |
| 20:10.56 | harleypig | nope. Still make -j 5 |
| 20:11.50 | bregalad | :( |
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| 20:37.46 | harleypig | I stand corrected ... it is a hardcode setting in a gem required by all of the gems I installed. But why it's recompiling said for each package is a mystery to me. |
| 20:40.26 | jlp_znc | refrains from bad mouthing ruby |
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| 20:45.57 | Tod-Work | has no such restrictions |
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| 20:46.16 | Tod-Work | don't use ruby |
| 20:46.17 | Tod-Work | ever |
| 20:47.19 | harleypig | I wish ... someone decided we would use chef, vagrant and rails for our product. *sigh* |
| 20:47.26 | harleypig | I'm avoiding as much as possible. |
| 20:49.12 | Tod-Work | tell them to own their decision and fix it themselves |
| 20:49.33 | jlp_znc | chuckles |
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| 21:28.42 | Jayce^ | harleypig would rather use COGS |
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| 22:05.48 | fozzmoo | ~lart youtah |
| 22:05.48 | infobot | executes killall -TERM youtah |
| 22:06.44 | jlp_znc | youtah: http://www.youtube.com/embed/_LpMB1OZ53g?feature=player_detailpage%22%20frameborder=%220%22%20allowfullscreen%3e%3c/iframe%3e&autoplay=1 <- watch this and then tell me how they made those heart shaped ones |
| 22:09.35 | eightyeight | not a real display |
| 22:10.36 | harleypig | Tod-Work: yeah, that'll fly. |
| 22:10.43 | harleypig | Jayce^: cogs can't be worse than rails |
| 22:11.03 | Tod-Work | is not popular with web devs |
| 22:11.06 | RyanE | they can in theory make 2D heart-shaped fireworks, but they won't look like this virtual display. |
| 22:11.42 | jlp_znc | yeah, I thought it looked simulated, as well. the hang time for some of the tracks was just too long. |
| 22:12.25 | RyanE | they'd just be a heart-shaped charge, with stars around the charge, and some fins on the load to keep it 'upright'. |
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| 22:13.20 | jlp_znc | but it would be just as likely to go off edge-on to the viewer as perpendicular, right? |
| 22:13.47 | bregalad | harleypig: sounds like a web dev that smacks of a Tod-Work adversary made all your infrastructure decisions |
| 22:14.14 | RyanE | not if it has fins |
| 22:14.18 | RyanE | oh, yeah... duh |
| 22:14.32 | RyanE | it'd still rotate on axis, so yeah, it could go off perpendicular to viewers. |
| 22:14.46 | RyanE | but likely it'd just be 'skinnier', not a line. |
| 22:15.04 | Tod-Work | jlp_znc, doing 3D fireworks is easy. Doing them in a controlled and reproducible manner from a fix perspective is much more difficult. Doing them in a mass-produced way is functionally impossible as of yet. |
| 22:15.05 | jlp_znc | right |
| 22:22.41 | youtah | I have seen heart shaped fireworks |
| 22:22.44 | youtah | and yes they do work |
| 22:22.50 | youtah | not perfectly, but they do |
| 22:24.58 | bregalad | have you seen tesseract shaped fireworks? |
| 22:25.37 | bregalad | waterworks? |
| 22:30.08 | Tod-Work | I saw a black hole sun once |
| 22:31.05 | Jayce^ | did it chase away the rain? |
| 22:31.38 | Tod-Work | no, it wouldn't, despite my begging |
| 22:31.39 | eightyeight | did it drown your fear? |
| 22:32.26 | jlp_znc | I must be too old to get these references. presumable something from "modern" music. |
| 22:32.55 | Jayce^ | jlp_znc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Sun |
| 22:33.02 | eightyeight | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg |
| 22:34.03 | jlp_znc | looks like I was right. |
| 22:34.18 | jlp_znc | mumbles something about kid's music these days |
| 22:34.51 | Jayce^ | those days |
| 22:34.58 | jlp_znc | whatever |
| 22:35.05 | jlp_znc | takes a nap |
| 22:35.13 | Jayce^ | gets off the lawn |
| 22:35.22 | eightyeight | Jayce^: don't forget to remove the dentures |
| 22:35.40 | Jayce^ | after my age coming up so often at openwest, it's good to be the young person in a discussion again :) |
| 22:35.54 | jlp_znc | heh heh |
| 22:36.02 | eightyeight | er, jlp_znc |
| 22:36.04 | eightyeight | phail |
| 22:36.19 | jlp_znc | I think you spelled that wrong, eightyeight |
| 22:36.43 | jlp_znc | actually, the song wasn't too bad |
| 22:36.53 | RyanE | it's a good song, trippy video, though. |
| 22:36.55 | jlp_znc | I've definitely heard worse blaring out of my son's room(s) |
| 22:37.10 | jlp_znc | looks at dremex |
| 22:37.31 | Jayce^ | it was obviously a popular song in high school, being a seattleite |
| 22:37.35 | RyanE | not that I recommend a black hole sun. |
| 22:37.45 | jlp_znc | wait, you had sun in seattle? |
| 22:37.56 | RyanE | black hole suns are contraindicated. |
| 22:38.16 | jlp_znc | I remember spending a week in Seattle and seeing the sun for about a half hour the whole time I was there. |
| 22:38.27 | RyanE | that's where we're going for family vacation this summer. |
| 22:38.32 | jlp_znc | (not counting from the plane on the way into/out of town) |
| 22:38.47 | Jayce^ | RyanE: seattle itself, or just western WA? |
| 22:38.51 | Jayce^ | anything specific? |
| 22:39.15 | RyanE | basically showed the kids a list of things to do in / around Seattle, and told them to make their own vacation. |
| 22:39.25 | RyanE | I don't know what's on the list yet. Anything we shouldn't miss? |
| 22:39.42 | Jayce^ | took my kids up there for the first time last year.. spent almost no time in seattle itself of course, was mostly out on the coast |
| 22:39.46 | jlp_znc | ride the monorail if you like noisy bumpy rides |
| 22:39.58 | Jayce^ | has a different perspective on what is "interesting" |
| 22:40.18 | RyanE | When I was a kid, we went up there as a family, and toured Ranier Beer. Pretty funny, when at the end of the tour, we didn't want any free samples. |
| 22:40.23 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: why would i do that, when we have the FrontRunner? |
| 22:40.28 | Jayce^ | the underground tour is a nice way to spend an hour or so right downtown |
| 22:40.42 | jlp_znc | monorail is much bouncier |
| 22:40.43 | RyanE | Yeah, I think we're planning on the underground tour. I remember that as a kid, too. |
| 22:40.43 | Jayce^ | eightyeight: *way* bumpier.. 1960's era monorail |
| 22:40.53 | eightyeight | i've been on the seattle monorail many times |
| 22:40.57 | eightyeight | i have family up there |
| 22:41.28 | Jayce^ | RyanE: if you want to spend a bit of $$ on an evening, hit Tillicum Village for the dinner show |
| 22:41.39 | Jayce^ | best way to get some good Salish history and understanding |
| 22:42.21 | RyanE | $$ or $$$? :) |
| 22:42.24 | Jayce^ | http://www.argosycruises.com/tillicum-village/ |
| 22:42.53 | Jayce^ | $80 each over 12, but search for coupons |
| 22:42.59 | eightyeight | it's nearly impossible to write anything by hand on paper on FR |
| 22:43.09 | jlp_znc | gack, $80 each!? |
| 22:43.24 | Jayce^ | used to kayak out to the island a bunch.. the island is a state part so camped there a bunch |
| 22:43.45 | Jayce^ | jlp_znc: it's an amazing experience if you want to see native storytelling, and artwork |
| 22:43.50 | Jayce^ | plus a fresh salmon buffet |
| 22:44.24 | Jayce^ | includes the ferry ride |
| 22:45.36 | jlp_znc | I'm not saying it's not worth it, I'm just saying "$80 each!?" |
| 22:45.43 | Jayce^ | is a big fan of various salish tribes artwork/storytelling/etc |
| 22:46.02 | Jayce^ | yeah, I agree, hence my family hasn't gone yet. |
| 22:46.29 | Jayce^ | used to get it cheaper as a scout, did camporee's out on the island as well |
| 22:46.36 | RyanE | That might be the sort of activity my wife and I would do, after picking up Wendy's for the kids. :) |
| 22:46.55 | RyanE | they'd love staying in the hotel and eating junk and watching TV. They're normal. |
| 22:47.25 | RyanE | how long is the ferry / cruise? |
| 22:48.13 | Jayce^ | 4 hours for the full thing |
| 22:48.35 | Jayce^ | it's a faster passenger ferry, so even from the Seattle side it's maybe 20 mins |
| 22:48.35 | RyanE | yeah, saw that on the website... :P |
| 22:49.25 | Jayce^ | I only used one of the ships once, usually provided my own transportation :) |
| 22:50.24 | RyanE | I also remember going to Ivars Salmon House on that trip. Yum. |
| 22:50.29 | Jayce^ | anyways, if you have the time, it's a great experience.. |
| 22:50.42 | Jayce^ | lol, Ivars.. everybody loves their chowder.. |
| 22:51.02 | Jayce^ | heads home.. I'll think of some other things you might want to do later |
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| 22:51.09 | RyanE | thanks. later. |
| 22:51.15 | Jayce^ | oh, boeing's air museum is a great one |
| 22:51.37 | jlp_znc | yes, definitely go to the air museum |
| 22:51.53 | jlp_znc | usenix conference had their reception there one year... it was pretty amazing. |
| 22:52.09 | jlp_znc | they have an SR-71 that you can actually sit in the cockpit of. |
| 22:52.28 | RyanE | We went to the Wingos Over the Rockies Air and space museum a couple of years ago. |
| 22:52.36 | Jayce^ | take a ride in a float plane, those are very fun |
| 22:52.43 | Jayce^ | especially the little piper cubs |
| 22:53.00 | Jayce^ | is really leaving now |
| 22:55.13 | bregalad | I've been on one of those speedy ferrys to maniac island on lake Huron |
| 22:55.27 | bregalad | it was very bizarre seeing lake water so clear |
| 22:55.42 | bregalad | someday that'll be Utah lake |
| 23:03.58 | yukaia-work | so long as it's infested with carp it wont be. |
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