| 00:03.35 | shalkie | I forgot how peacful it is to watch big fluffy snow flakes fall. |
| 00:03.56 | jlp_znc | where are you, shalkie? |
| 00:04.20 | jlp_znc | there is just some kind of gray clay-like substance falling in Provo right now. |
| 00:04.35 | jlp_znc | it gunked up my glasses. |
| 00:05.43 | shalkie | jlp_znc: Northern Tech Barrens (Brigham) |
| 00:08.52 | jlp_znc | man, front runner wifi is bad this afternoon |
| 00:09.29 | jlp_znc | I think I'll put my laptop away and read my book instead. :-) |
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| 00:16.30 | RyanE | we have fluffy snow, but due to the wind, it's not doing much falling. |
| 00:29.09 | shalkie | It could be wrong but I am finding this whole India Net Neutrality "PSA" great fun. |
| 00:30.04 | shalkie | http://gizmodo.com/massive-online-protests-in-india-over-net-neutrality-1697602907 |
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| 00:37.40 | shalkie | Strong language, but a "truthful" Cable company ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso |
| 00:49.57 | shalkie | There is enough snow to at least make my lawn white. |
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| 01:05.16 | asoc | Anyone here watch Amazon prime using Linux with the wine-silverlight/agent switcher? |
| 01:05.26 | asoc | prime video* |
| 01:18.00 | asoc | It seems that since last time I watched a video there they started requiring activex support too. |
| 01:18.20 | asoc | So it appears that I will have to go look for the flashplayer hack I once saw. |
| 01:42.38 | keldwud | I tried amazon on my linux box recently and it didn't work |
| 01:42.51 | keldwud | I didn't look into it though since I had my kindle fire right next to me |
| 01:43.22 | keldwud | but anecdotally I can confirm that amazon prime instant video wasn't working on ubuntu 14.04 in chrome or firefox |
| 01:44.11 | asoc | I have been running just fine on Slackware once I got the wine-silverlight stuff working |
| 01:44.27 | asoc | Unil they added the activex stuff that I saw today. |
| 01:45.59 | keldwud | interesting |
| 01:46.06 | keldwud | yay for snow finally! |
| 01:46.17 | keldwud | it's a bit late, but better late than never :) |
| 01:53.20 | RyanE | nice now that you don't have to resort to hacks to watch Netflix on Linux (Chrome). |
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| 04:21.51 | shalkie | If only SlingTV worked. |
| 04:23.06 | bregalad | chrome is a grand amalgamation of hacks |
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| 10:47.47 | spangborn | Yay 4AM monitoring ಠ__ಠ|
| 10:55.55 | spangborn | Got one of those Chamberlain wifi garage door openers. Pretty nifty. |
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| 13:31.27 | romanovic | wow, comcast just charged me $120, which I did not schedule or authorise |
| 13:34.35 | shalkie | romanovic: Wow, even for comcast that seems greedy. |
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| 13:39.20 | romanovic | to be fair, i did authorise payment for an overdue payment shortly before, but told them specifically that I couldn't afford to pay next month's bill yet at the same time |
| 13:39.41 | romanovic | Looks like they charged 2 month's worth anyway |
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| 14:12.39 | romanovic | That a single month's bill has grown to $120 is a little bit outrageous too |
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| 14:21.53 | shalkie | I was looking at the fine print of their 12 month $89, 2 year contract triple screw plan the other day. After 12 months it bumps to 114 or so and if you cancelled one of the services it jumps to 145 for the remainder of the contract. |
| 14:22.24 | shalkie | OH and they don't garauntee bandwidth speeds. |
| 14:26.32 | Q_Continuum | They never guarantee speeds |
| 14:26.49 | Q_Continuum | I signed on for a 12 month "offer" for just bit-pushing |
| 14:26.56 | Q_Continuum | no contract, no other services |
| 14:31.24 | shalkie | What kind of price did you get? |
| 14:35.49 | Q_Continuum | $35/month for 50/10 |
| 14:36.09 | Q_Continuum | After the promo ends it roughly doubles |
| 14:36.53 | shalkie | How has the speed been? |
| 14:37.15 | RuShan | Just request a fiber network in your city constantly to your city council til they give in to get better internet |
| 14:37.16 | Q_Continuum | I've been getting about double that, in Cottonwood Heights - so they're trying to head off interest in Google Fiber |
| 14:38.06 | shalkie | RuShan: Or if your moving anyways move to one of the cities that has fiber. |
| 14:38.27 | RuShan | ^^that is easier |
| 14:38.42 | RuShan | That is why I live in a Utopia city |
| 14:38.53 | jima | <3 utopia |
| 14:39.02 | jima | Q_Continuum: GET BACK TO WORK |
| 14:39.47 | RuShan | Utopia is a much better deal then google Giber for cities and residents |
| 14:39.56 | jima | RuShan: soooo much better |
| 14:40.44 | Q_Continuum | Utopia is the ideal system, I don't disagree |
| 14:41.51 | RuShan | Hard to go against incompetent leadership paid by incombents |
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| 15:01.17 | jima | not if you're google. |
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| 15:55.20 | Tod-Work | Comcast DOES guarantee speeds for business |
| 15:55.29 | Tod-Work | may have business service at home |
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| 16:01.31 | romanovic | has given comcast the boot |
| 16:01.48 | T4rku5 | congratulations, romanovic! |
| 16:01.52 | romanovic | now to suffer with digis until a decent provider comes along :/ |
| 16:01.55 | T4rku5 | is jealous |
| 16:01.56 | romanovic | max 15Mbps |
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| 16:35.23 | manithree | is happy so far with the switch to Vivnt. 50 down/ 50 up most days. |
| 16:38.51 | romanovic | I would really like to try Vivint Wireless, it is the best/fastest non-comcast alternative available in Herriman |
| 16:40.01 | fungus | I would rather stick with Comcast (high-speed,bad customer service) than use Digis (low-speed,good customer service) |
| 16:40.04 | romanovic | however, I seem to live in a pocket of about 15 houses where no signal is accessible. |
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| 16:41.59 | romanovic | fungus: that was my policy too, until this morning. but the combination of a 240% increase in price, an unauthorised charge from comcast, and unwillingness on their part to fix the problem means I'm leaving, for now |
| 16:43.39 | romanovic | I'll try digis until vivint wireless coverage improves, then I'll use vivint until either fiber comes in or my hatred for comcast subsides |
| 16:45.35 | romanovic | also, I always hated that I was a cable TV statistic, since comcast charges more for internet alone than internet/TV package. and I always took the package to get the lower price |
| 16:46.58 | romanovic | even though I never used cable TV. |
| 16:47.09 | romanovic | now I can be counted among cordcutters who pay for internet-delivered TV only. |
| 16:48.15 | fozzmoo | romanovic: It sucks you can't get Vivint yet, but it's not that uncommon. There are about 12 homes south of me that can't get it. |
| 16:49.05 | fozzmoo | A Vivint guy stopped by about a month ago and said they were going to try to put in a new tower just west of us (about 6000 West) at the top of the foothill. |
| 16:49.20 | romanovic | I think they're making progress. Every few weeks, another vivint wireless salesperson contacts us and we tell them, "we've had the installers out (n) times, and they can't get a good signal" |
| 16:49.21 | fozzmoo | He also said they're planning to roll out 1Gbps service. |
| 16:49.56 | romanovic | the sales people always tell us "but there is a new hub in your area, so you can get it now." So far, each new installer has told us the same thing. |
| 16:51.02 | romanovic | fozzmoo: good to hear they're putting one a little farther up the hill. I'm around 5700 W, and Vivint is providing coverage for several of my neighbors from *downhill*, which makes no sense to me |
| 16:51.16 | manithree | I switched from Comcast just on principle. Even though I hated vivint when they were APX. |
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| 16:51.33 | youtah | NACHOS |
| 16:51.35 | fozzmoo | Vivint Wireless is an independent business unit from their home security stuff. |
| 16:51.35 | youtah | ~nachos |
| 16:51.35 | infobot | schweet. |
| 16:51.37 | fozzmoo | ~lart youtah |
| 16:51.37 | infobot | --purges youtah |
| 16:51.57 | manithree | fozzmoo: Good to know. I hear their security is much improved now, too. |
| 16:52.01 | youtah | I know one of the head honchos over Vivint Wireless |
| 16:52.06 | youtah | we're had lots of good discussions |
| 16:52.10 | youtah | we've |
| 16:52.23 | fozzmoo | youtah: I just mentioned they told me they're planning to roll out a 1Gbs service. |
| 16:52.39 | youtah | I have no idea how that is possible |
| 16:53.00 | youtah | They've been using TM as a test bed for the last 2.5 years |
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| 16:53.11 | youtah | and they have had SO many issues |
| 16:53.15 | fozzmoo | youtah: I'd imagine they're using "technology" |
| 16:53.19 | fozzmoo | TM? |
| 16:53.25 | youtah | granted we are the guinea pigs |
| 16:53.30 | youtah | Traverse Mountain |
| 16:53.35 | fozzmoo | Oh, right. |
| 16:54.05 | fozzmoo | Do you know what wireless platform they're using? |
| 16:54.17 | youtah | they manufacture it completely on their own |
| 16:54.27 | youtah | which is why their radios are so cheap and affordable |
| 16:55.09 | fozzmoo | Wow. |
| 16:55.31 | youtah | So they are pushing 10? 30? Gigahertz (IIRC) from the main towers to "nodes" and from each node, 5Ghz to each home. They also create a mesh network of sorts |
| 16:55.43 | youtah | so even if one of the towers or nodes goes down, they can talk to each other |
| 16:55.57 | youtah | and I know that they're using Radius |
| 16:58.01 | shalkie | romanovic: Vivint is doing a high speed wifi mesh thing. I talked to a coworker on it and he says if your the "hub" house they give you better speed (like 150 compared to 50) and a discounted price. Though you host the equipment (possibly including antenna on the roof?) and I guess pay the electric bill. |
| 16:58.20 | romanovic | shalkie: we've volunteered 3 times to be a hub home |
| 16:58.52 | romanovic | we regularly call back and tell them "our street still doesn't have service. do you have any updates? we would like to be a hub home if you need an additional node" |
| 16:59.06 | shalkie | youtah: Is vivint the one that talks about wireless being faster then fiber? |
| 17:00.35 | pashdown | i wouldn't put it past them |
| 17:01.06 | bregalad | lol |
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| 17:04.59 | manithree | romanovic: Keep it up. I volunteered a couple of times years ago, but my neighbor ended up being the hub home. Now HE gets free Internet. Grr. |
| 17:06.16 | shalkie | From digis : http://www.digis.net/blog/microwave-fixed-wireless-internet-trumps-fiber-optic-cables/ |
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| 17:09.33 | bregalad | srsly |
| 17:09.43 | bregalad | microwave |
| 17:09.57 | bregalad | do they even have any engineers on staff? |
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| 17:12.39 | youtah | shalkie, yes correct |
| 17:12.49 | youtah | they get it discounted, as is 100% free |
| 17:12.57 | youtah | the people across the street from me have it |
| 17:15.56 | shalkie | bregalad: The great part is if you look at the digis front page they are advertising speeds below 20Mb. |
| 17:16.44 | shalkie | Or I am thinking of one of the other wireless providers. |
| 17:17.27 | Tod-Work | centurylink still has DSL advertised, because telecoms |
| 17:20.20 | shalkie | Ah, residential lines are up to 15Mb (http://www.digis.net/residential/pricing-plans-utah/) and so it appears are small business. But enterprise and public secture they are saying up to 1Gb. |
| 17:20.51 | bregalad | shalkie: I guess they haven't heard about researchers achieving trans-terabit speeds in the laboratory |
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| 17:21.44 | Tod-Work | just wants fast xmission |
| 17:21.56 | Tod-Work | yet I'm moving to Lehi. Go figure. |
| 17:26.20 | shalkie | I guess not. I think the current research max is still the 100Pb from Bell Labs. |
| 17:26.25 | shalkie | http://phys.org/news173455192.html/ |
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| 17:29.44 | shalkie | I was watching Community last night in which the new guy offers to be the "IT Lady" and is wondering what size they were up to and he stopped at Megabyte and he did the "They finally did it, those crazy bastards" when he was told terrabytes |
| 17:30.06 | shalkie | I could so relate at that moment. Also I really want that clip. |
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| 17:47.27 | youtah | https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11047931_796834223736622_3231696617142558520_n.jpg?oh=3433ca74a4a7ab523714c3881ffef195&oe=55A75EF8 |
| 17:47.39 | youtah | ^ giggles |
| 17:51.39 | youtah | It's in russian... but HOLY CRAP. This would never fly in the states https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3yvOkooYA |
| 17:53.20 | youtah | Skip to 4m 05s |
| 17:53.28 | youtah | if you want to get to the fighting |
| 17:54.54 | youtah | the commentary is in English though |
| 18:06.29 | manithree | youtah: Dang, it's a "blunt instrument' I wanted to see somebody lose an arm |
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| 18:08.34 | youtah | lol |
| 18:12.43 | harleypig | are these swords dulled? |
| 18:13.00 | youtah | They could be using lead pipes |
| 18:13.02 | harleypig | oh ... the blunt comment answered that. |
| 18:13.22 | harleypig | I take it stabbing moves are right out? |
| 18:17.00 | youtah | I think so |
| 18:17.20 | youtah | Either way, being hit repeatedly by a 30b hunk of metal wearing... metal... can |
| 18:17.25 | youtah | can't feel good after a while |
| 18:26.15 | shalkie | Well at least we know one of them isn't putin... If it was he would be shirtless. |
| 18:26.21 | shalkie | Either way: Crazy russians. |
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| 18:32.39 | shalkie | Huh, so the revised info on the falcon landing was mostly successful. Apparently it landed fine, but then fell. |
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| 19:46.51 | pashdown | it is the ship that made the kessel run in less than twelve parsecs |
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| 20:07.32 | asoc | youtah: they actually have similar things here. But instead of being metal they are equally heavy specialty resins that when they break will not create sharp ends. |
| 20:07.57 | asoc | referring to the fighting video |
| 20:08.20 | asoc | and I think there are some places that do use metal. But I believe that is less popular |
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| 23:16.44 | shalkie | Ah taxes... |
| 23:16.45 | shalkie | :( |
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