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| 17:16.08 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=40&v=cXgB3lIvPHI |
| 17:38.08 | jlp_znc | anyone else doing google code jam this year? |
| 17:38.42 | Jayce^ | I think RVD is here in our office |
| 17:39.07 | jlp_znc | I didn't play last year, but have previously. |
| 17:39.25 | jlp_znc | I've made it past round 1 before, but never made it past round 2. :-) |
| 17:39.51 | jlp_znc | http://code.google.com/codejam if anyone is interested |
| 17:55.00 | shalkie | I have a car commercial that is pretty awesome: |
| 17:55.02 | shalkie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A1IWlba8NrA |
| 18:06.05 | jlp_znc | looked like a parkour baseball commercial for a while, there |
| 18:40.03 | shalkie | I forgot it was a car commercial until the end. |
| 19:02.49 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyfhzqhJNbg |
| 19:03.02 | jlp_znc | continues covering for youtah |
| 19:12.55 | goozbach | so pissed my NXT2 brick went kaput |
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| 19:38.51 | nodebit | goozbach: thats terrible news |
| 19:46.47 | Jayce^ | so, apparently it's time to spend a lot more $$ http://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Dimensions-Starter-Pack-PlayStation-4/dp/B00VMB5VCS |
| 19:47.43 | Jayce^ | jlp_znc: harleypig needs to watch your link |
| 19:48.19 | jlp_znc | I'm not sure about Montgomery Scott as B.A. Barraccus, but the others were right on. |
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| 20:57.04 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfl33Tn0pYc <- Skate 3 physics engine fails. |
| 21:12.04 | Jayce^ | YAY DESCENT IS FUNDED |
| 21:12.13 | Jayce^ | your last chance to get on the kickstarter price is now |
| 21:12.29 | harleypig | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWBNtj5zHpI |
| 21:13.27 | Jayce^ | jlp_znc: it's like goat simulator |
| 21:13.42 | jlp_znc | yeah, but they did it on purpose in goat simulator |
| 21:13.49 | jlp_znc | (well, they left the bugs in on purpose) |
| 21:14.46 | Jayce^ | harleypig: *nobody* will clink your links |
| 21:15.13 | harleypig | I've seen the Star Trek/A Team mashup before, but it's worth a repost on fb. Also, Scotty as BA just doesn't work. |
| 21:15.21 | harleypig | Jayce^: sure they do, they just won't admit it. |
| 21:15.31 | harleypig | Also, it's on youtube. How bad could it be? |
| 21:16.57 | jnbek | reminds harleypig about "Babymetal"; rests his case |
| 21:17.31 | Jayce^ | speaking of that jnbek... did you see this one from fozzmoo https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=805810659506138 |
| 21:17.33 | bregalad | youtube is the ultimate destination for video and thus the lowest and largest cesspool thereof |
| 21:17.53 | bregalad | s/video/all the world's video/ |
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| 21:24.44 | harleypig | jnbek: babymetal is not nsfw, just bizarre. :] |
| 21:24.55 | jnbek | touche |
| 21:25.15 | jnbek | Jayce^: i have now... that's an interesting looking Rickenbacher the one's playing... |
| 21:26.00 | jnbek | this has a good 80s power/glam metal feel to it. |
| 21:28.16 | jnbek | vocals are a bit too... Gaga/Perry popish for my taste, but it's pretty ok. |
| 21:31.54 | eightyeight | i've recently been enjoying volbeat |
| 21:35.06 | eightyeight | they're like a cross between elvis presley and metallica |
| 21:35.17 | eightyeight | they pull it off very well, imo |
| 21:37.52 | harleypig | eightyeight: what an interesting description ... now I have to look them up |
| 21:38.12 | eightyeight | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ48WX9z90A is the song that turned me on to them |
| 21:43.23 | eightyeight | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WdO9KhcUKE is another great song |
| 21:55.18 | eightyeight | harleypig: here is the most "elvis presley"-like, i think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mV_HHL-h6g |
| 21:55.58 | dumby | http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Man-on-Stolen-Horse-Stunned-by-Sheriffs-Deputies-in-IE-299250951.html |
| 21:59.01 | eightyeight | "Maybelenne I Hoftebolder" is another great tune (they're danish) |
| 21:59.14 | eightyeight | stops raving |
| 22:00.18 | eightyeight | s/Hoftebolder/Hofteholder/ |
| 22:42.44 | eightyeight | Jayce^: i've move 2 boxes to 0.6.4 so far- a local storage server and my workstation |
| 22:42.51 | eightyeight | so far, so good. but, it's only be a day. |
| 22:42.59 | eightyeight | (zfs that is) |
| 22:43.14 | jlp_znc | zfs on linux? |
| 22:43.17 | eightyeight | yeah |
| 22:43.21 | jlp_znc | fuse? or native? |
| 22:43.25 | eightyeight | native |
| 22:43.28 | jlp_znc | woooo |
| 22:43.33 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 22:43.36 | eightyeight | http://zfsonlinux.org/ |
| 22:43.49 | jlp_znc | how did they evade the licensing issues? |
| 22:44.03 | eightyeight | it's not in mainline. it's a compiled kernel module that is loaded separately |
| 22:44.11 | eightyeight | so no licensing issues to worry about |
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| 22:46.46 | jlp_znc | so what pool version and feature set does it have? |
| 22:47.32 | jlp_znc | as I recall, there was at some point a change in how new features would be added to zfs, so that they would not increment the pool/fs versions but add additional feature codes |
| 22:48.10 | eightyeight | http://ae7.st/p/7qw |
| 22:48.58 | jlp_znc | cool |
| 22:49.28 | jlp_znc | so fs is at the latest rev, but pool is only at 28, but with it looks like all of the additional features |
| 22:49.54 | jlp_znc | http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1448/gjxle.html <- list of zfs pool versions |
| 22:49.57 | eightyeight | yeah. it's a fork of the latest open source code from opensolaris, before oracle prorpietarded it |
| 22:50.23 | eightyeight | oracle has not yet made good on their promise to keep the zfs source code open |
| 22:50.31 | jlp_znc | well, oracle. |
| 22:50.36 | eightyeight | exactly |
| 22:51.01 | jlp_znc | one pool rev I really wanted to see was 30, native encryption at the pool layer. |
| 22:51.17 | eightyeight | all the development (freebsd, illumos, linux, etc) has moved to http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 22:51.28 | eightyeight | and matt ahrens is committing code to the project |
| 22:51.45 | eightyeight | an encryption feature flag may make its way in |
| 22:51.58 | eightyeight | atm, peple just use crypto above or below the zfs layer |
| 22:52.03 | eightyeight | shrug |
| 22:52.31 | jlp_znc | do you know if they have done anything to fix the horrible dedup implementation? |
| 22:52.43 | eightyeight | what do you mean by horrible? |
| 22:53.02 | eightyeight | dedup does require tons of RAM: https://pthree.org/2013/12/18/zfs-administration-appendix-d-the-true-cost-of-deduplication/ |
| 22:53.14 | jlp_znc | well, there were no limits on how much memory would be eaten by the dedup pool. at some point, your dedup pool would get too big and your server would fall over |
| 22:54.04 | eightyeight | the rule of thumb is 5GB dedicated to the DDT for every 1TB of duplicated disk |
| 22:54.05 | jlp_znc | I haven't really looked at zfs in a couple of years, so they may have solved the problem |
| 22:54.15 | jlp_znc | 5G of RAM |
| 22:54.21 | eightyeight | yeah |
| 22:54.29 | jlp_znc | yeah. ouch. |
| 22:54.33 | eightyeight | unless you absolutely know you need it, and can afford it, best to keep it disabled |
| 22:54.44 | eightyeight | you'll get so much further ahead with LZ4 compression |
| 22:55.21 | jlp_znc | we tried it because it was amazing at deduping blocks on cloned VM images, but then when it fell over performance just tanked and it took a long time to figure out what was going on and how to fix it. |
| 22:55.39 | eightyeight | the DDT probably spilled to platter |
| 22:56.13 | eightyeight | i'm using it beneath glusterfs for KVM vm image replication |
| 22:56.20 | eightyeight | i haven't enabled deduplication. just compression |
| 22:56.30 | eightyeight | works great |
| 22:57.47 | jlp_znc | nice |
| 22:59.55 | eightyeight | & |
| 23:06.52 | bregalad | disown |
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| 23:27.44 | bregalad | ~seen le |
| 23:27.49 | infobot | bregalad: i haven't seen 'le' |
| 23:27.49 | bregalad | ~seen levi |
| 23:27.49 | infobot | levi <~levi@c-98-202-130-141.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 4d 44m 36s ago, saying: 'Heh. Except faxes have this weird special status such that people don't believe they can be faked as easily as email can, or something.'. |
| 23:28.29 | bregalad | where is levi when you need him? |
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