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| 03:05.35 | Q_Continuum | So, Comcast is tryin' hard to lock folks in now that Google's made their announcement. ALthough that isn't the first sales-pitch call I've gotten to try to get me on more than just 'Net and locked in. |
| 03:06.20 | TodPunk | I like my comcast line, but I'd take utopia just to get back on xmission any day |
| 03:06.23 | Q_Continuum | For only another $60 a month(for 12 months) I can have 100 channels and the X1 Operating System! ($91/month for 12, then $111 for the 2nd 12) |
| 03:06.48 | Q_Continuum | I'd love to have xmission even on Centurylink's 40/20 connection, Utopia would be the preferred though. |
| 03:06.53 | TodPunk | pays $135/month for internet |
| 03:07.13 | Q_Continuum | I'm presently paying what, $36/month IIRC |
| 03:07.19 | Q_Continuum | 12 month "deal" no contract |
| 03:07.29 | TodPunk | yeah, I know pashdown would love to service over Centurylink's 40/20 connection, but stupid telecoms |
| 03:07.30 | Q_Continuum | roughly doubles after that |
| 03:08.14 | TodPunk | I know here in orem all the politics surrounding getting utopia going was all complicated because old people are stupid |
| 03:08.47 | Q_Continuum | Since they walk the sales call right into "now lets get you into this, what's your address?" (Since its a 3rd party seller on their "behalf") I just let her keep going up until that point. FIgure that might help one less person get sucked into a 2 year contract ;P |
| 03:10.20 | TodPunk | I'm hoping to move up to Lehi, near Traverse, but not IN Traverse (I hate you, Veracity!!!) but I know I'll never get Utopia there either =c( |
| 03:10.48 | TodPunk | Heaven knows the moment I move out of this house they'll finally close the fiber hole this tiny, tiny neighborhood is in and Utopia will land |
| 03:11.57 | Q_Continuum | That's the way it always goes, isn't it? |
| 03:15.56 | TodPunk | Especially if you wanted it so badly you bought the house FOR it |
| 03:17.33 | Q_Continuum | :-( |
| 03:17.44 | Q_Continuum | That sucks |
| 03:18.08 | TodPunk | eh, I had my reasons, my wife had others. She won in the long run =cP |
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| 05:05.02 | keldwud | I've found one way to read through a list of lines containing whitespace and then grep another document with the whole line including whitespace by using while IFS= read and "${foo}". What are some other ways I could have done it? |
| 05:05.18 | keldwud | or more importantly, what are some obvious errors I can expect to see in my output |
| 05:05.45 | keldwud | when I do the following: while IFS= read game; do grep "${game}" brda-games.list; done < steam-games.list |
| 05:05.59 | keldwud | it gives me expected output |
| 05:06.26 | keldwud | but when I switch it around and read brda-games.list to grep in steam-games.list, I just get all lines of steam-games.list output |
| 05:06.57 | keldwud | I understand that IFS= and double quotes and braces are essential to my command |
| 05:07.07 | keldwud | but I don't understand enough to figure out what exactly is going on |
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| 16:15.45 | youtah | hey spangborn what were the different Atom add ons you highly recommended, again? |
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| 16:22.22 | fozzmoo | ~lart youtah |
| 16:22.22 | infobot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in youtah's direction, hitting youtah and sending youtah flying into the closet |
| 16:24.37 | youtah | ouch |
| 16:26.27 | harleypig | And you just came out too ... |
| 16:27.29 | fozzmoo | harleypig++ |
| 16:27.53 | youtah | no no no |
| 16:27.58 | youtah | that didn't work |
| 16:28.16 | youtah | ~harleypig++ |
| 16:28.20 | youtah | That's how you do it |
| 16:28.26 | youtah | ~karma harleypig |
| 16:28.26 | infobot | harleypig has karma of 15 |
| 16:28.33 | youtah | ~karma youtah |
| 16:28.33 | infobot | youtah has karma of 4 |
| 16:28.37 | youtah | Woo hoo!~ |
| 16:28.39 | fozzmoo | Alright. Fine. |
| 16:28.44 | youtah | ~karma fozzmoo |
| 16:28.44 | infobot | fozzmoo has karma of 8 |
| 16:28.46 | harleypig | ~youtah++ |
| 16:28.48 | harleypig | there you go |
| 16:28.50 | youtah | woo hoo! |
| 16:28.53 | fozzmoo | ~lart youtah |
| 16:28.53 | infobot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up youtah |
| 16:29.03 | harleypig | ... |
| 16:29.12 | fozzmoo | Sucker! |
| 16:29.16 | youtah | lol |
| 16:29.32 | fozzmoo | youtah: My wife was asking me if you ever took Front Runner. |
| 16:29.48 | youtah | I do |
| 16:29.54 | youtah | couple times a week |
| 16:30.21 | youtah | but only when I want to catch the avian ebola swine flu |
| 16:30.31 | fozzmoo | Huh. Sean Reyes is visiting Bluehost this morning. |
| 16:30.53 | youtah | but only when I want to catch the avian ebola west nile swine flu |
| 16:31.01 | harleypig | visiting? or looking into something? |
| 16:31.08 | fozzmoo | harleypig: yes. |
| 16:31.23 | youtah | I know Sean Reyes! |
| 16:31.29 | youtah | I have a lot of photos of him too |
| 16:31.36 | harleypig | Compromising photos? |
| 16:31.38 | fozzmoo | he's my Facebook friend, so we go way back. |
| 16:31.39 | youtah | no |
| 16:32.24 | harleypig | Here's a gallery of pictures with him: http://goo.gl/W5gaqQ |
| 16:32.27 | harleypig | sfw |
| 16:32.48 | fozzmoo | youtah: http://www.kutv.com/news/features/world-news/stories/Study-claims-eating-bacon-might-prolong-life-109297.shtml |
| 16:32.50 | youtah | yeah but they're not original youtah photos |
| 16:32.58 | youtah | YESS!!!!! |
| 16:33.01 | youtah | ~fozzmoo++ |
| 16:33.30 | fozzmoo | What's interesting about that is they say the beneficial ingredient is Niacin (Vitamin B3) |
| 16:35.16 | youtah | yeah |
| 16:35.16 | harleypig | It's not just bacon, but pork products. |
| 16:35.20 | youtah | I need more niacin |
| 16:35.33 | harleypig | Of course, my first thought was, does that include long pig? |
| 16:35.47 | harleypig | Then I thought ... "Soylent green!" |
| 16:35.49 | youtah | we could cook harleypig |
| 16:35.58 | harleypig | I'm very tasty. |
| 16:36.29 | youtah | speaking for soylent.... my friend discovered that Soylent goes great with Vanilla? Vodka and Baileys |
| 16:37.23 | harleypig | You mean someone is actually using that product? |
| 16:37.27 | fozzmoo | I used to take antidepressants, but then I read that Niacin supplements can provide some of the same benefit. So I started taking Niacin. I take 1000mg a day. |
| 16:37.45 | fozzmoo | I've been doing that for years. |
| 16:38.10 | jsmith | youtah: Soylent, as in "Now with 30% more engineers!"? |
| 16:38.13 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 16:38.20 | fozzmoo | ~jsmith++ |
| 16:38.25 | youtah | lol |
| 16:38.40 | youtah | It's the ONLY thing he eats for 6 days out of the week |
| 16:38.46 | youtah | and Sunday is his cheat day |
| 16:39.10 | youtah | and he's been doing this for about 5 months now |
| 16:40.12 | youtah | He has found that he has to add gasex into the soylent too, but other than that, he's been healthy. His doctor was blown away at his checkup. He's lost weight, blood pressure is amazing, all his bloodwork was fantastic, etc |
| 16:40.14 | harleypig | How's it working out for him? |
| 16:40.26 | harleypig | nice timing. |
| 16:40.31 | youtah | yeah, lol |
| 16:40.32 | harleypig | That's cool. |
| 16:40.36 | youtah | he's at his ideal weight. |
| 16:40.49 | youtah | and said he wakes up alert and feels great all day |
| 16:40.57 | youtah | So... kinda weird |
| 16:45.42 | jsmith | I woke up alert this morning... at 4:00am :-( |
| 16:46.46 | programmerq | I just ordered some soylent |
| 16:47.19 | programmerq | it's nice to swap in soylent if I want a quick, low effort, healthy meal. |
| 16:48.56 | Q_Continuum | I need to do that |
| 16:48.59 | Q_Continuum | order a batch and try it |
| 16:53.45 | youtah | I have thought about doing it |
| 16:53.58 | programmerq | someone at work heard I had tried it, and he had some that he had ordered, tried, and didn't want. I picked up 11 days worth for a huge discount. |
| 16:54.15 | programmerq | unfortunately, this was after I'd already ordered 2 weeks at full price |
| 16:54.36 | programmerq | I did do soylent for my drive out and my drive back (12 hour drive each way to/from SF) |
| 16:54.54 | programmerq | I just mixed up a batch the night before, and then kept the pitcher in a cooler with ice. |
| 16:55.04 | programmerq | it worked pretty well. |
| 16:55.33 | programmerq | only thing was that I poured the soylent to my service container (a blenderbottle) while I was stopped. I wasn't about to do that while driving. |
| 16:59.44 | Q_Continuum | I've got some friends in another channel that have been doing it for some time |
| 16:59.54 | Q_Continuum | Said to ease into it and watch for the gas |
| 17:00.19 | Q_Continuum | And the flavor grows on you once your body realizes the nutrients its getting (it convinces you its good, is what he said) |
| 17:00.48 | bregalad | what she said? |
| 17:00.51 | youtah | Yeah, my friend also is a trucker, so he said it was fantastic because he would make it in a thermos and throw it in his truck, and it would last him all day. |
| 17:01.11 | youtah | ~bregalad++ |
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| 17:01.42 | bregalad | if you don't know how to deal with 'gas' you're clearly not eating enough raw plant-derived food |
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| 17:05.53 | programmerq | Q_Continuum: yeah, someone gave me a bag before I ordered mine. I was kind of 'meh', but then I found myself craving it. |
| 17:05.56 | programmerq | so I ordered some. |
| 17:06.33 | Q_Continuum | I love the concept, and want to save monies and eat better |
| 17:06.45 | Q_Continuum | (save monies compared to running out for breakfast and lunch) |
| 17:07.31 | bregalad | ~nacho |
| 17:07.31 | infobot | Why can't we ever have just, like, a salad? |
| 17:09.47 | Q_Continuum | ha |
| 17:13.09 | Q_Continuum | Welcome to the NUKEFROMORBIT workgroup. |
| 17:17.06 | Tod-Work | I would order soylent except I don't want to mix oil, and I don't want to wait 4 months to ship |
| 17:17.43 | Tod-Work | like, I have literally gone to their site and filled in the shipping details several times, and that's always the thing that stops me, the shipping delay nonsense |
| 17:20.58 | programmerq | Tod-Work: I ordered mine about 3 weeks ago, and it took a week to get here. |
| 17:21.09 | programmerq | the latest formula doesn't have the oil separate |
| 17:21.10 | Tod-Work | programmerq, was that your first order? |
| 17:21.12 | programmerq | it's just powder. |
| 17:21.14 | programmerq | Tod-Work: yes. |
| 17:21.48 | Tod-Work | today's shipping notice says 4 weeks |
| 17:21.50 | programmerq | I don't know if shipping times are down across the board, but after some searching, it looks like they are ramping up production |
| 17:22.23 | Tod-Work | meh, I've already converted to basically eating baby carrots and apples or water for the filler, and having dinner with family |
| 17:22.32 | Tod-Work | and baby carrots are CHEAP |
| 17:22.55 | Tod-Work | hopefully down the road I'll have a reason to try soylent |
| 17:23.59 | Tod-Work | by then it will hopefully only take a couple days like every OTHER thing I could order on the internet |
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| 18:32.07 | jlp_znc | Tod-Work: you've got to watch out on the baby carrots... you will turn orange. |
| 18:32.20 | jlp_znc | and why haven't you moved yet so I can get Utopia!? |
| 18:35.40 | Tod-Work | jlp_znc, because I have to find temporary housing first? =c( |
| 18:36.11 | Tod-Work | (Temporary housing that allows two medium sized dogs is much harder) |
| 18:36.32 | joshh | just live in the alley behind xmission and let them drop a cable to your laptop |
| 18:36.52 | Tod-Work | would be fine with that |
| 18:36.55 | Tod-Work | wife might complain |
| 18:37.11 | joshh | she will either way |
| 18:37.20 | joshh | might as well have the gige |
| 18:37.32 | Tod-Work | fair |
| 18:41.22 | Q_Continuum | Sounds like xmission needs to build a tiny apartment complex. Perks? Gigabit. |
| 18:43.44 | joshh | why not 10 or 100g |
| 18:43.55 | joshh | as long as you have the cash |
| 19:01.46 | Q_Continuum | If I move back to MN and land in the Twin Cities it'll be Minneapolis and I can get 10G for $400/month |
| 19:01.57 | Q_Continuum | http://fiber.usinternet.com/ |
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| 19:17.40 | fozzmoo | ~lart youtah |
| 19:17.40 | infobot | does a little 'dpkg -P youtah' action |
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| 19:35.53 | rsimpkins | Did you all play pac man in google maps today? |
| 19:35.57 | rsimpkins | I wasted way too much time |
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| 19:38.31 | rsimpkins | Here is a good/challenging location - https://www.google.com/maps/@47.369911,8.5383322,18z/data=!1e3 |
| 19:41.35 | fozzmoo | :-D |
| 19:53.50 | youtah | lol |
| 19:56.48 | jsmith | Wow... someone has too much time on their hands |
| 20:03.23 | jnbek | holy crap |
| 20:04.04 | jnbek | downtown oakland would be evil to play that on |
| 20:05.41 | jnbek | closes |
| 20:06.32 | RegionSyx | This looks like a fun keyboard - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-ergodox |
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| 20:52.16 | unum | I hadn't found that yet |
| 20:54.55 | unum | the avenues are much easier |
| 20:56.27 | joshh | Q_Continuum: i would do that if i were you, except just pay for 1g |
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| 21:05.15 | harleypig | anyone familiar with anaconda for CentOS 7 (RHEL 7?) and can help me with a kickstart file? |
| 21:05.45 | harleypig | I'm getting not enough space on device errors, even though there is 200GB allocated to it (err ... on a vmware setup) |
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| 21:14.10 | Q_Continuum | joshh: Yeah, the 10Gig would be overkill |
| 21:20.50 | jsmith | harleypig: Sure, post your kickstart somewhere, and I'll take a quick look |
| 21:21.24 | harleypig | jsmith: cool, thanks.http://vr.vwh.net/files/ks/ks_minimal_centos_7.cfg |
| 21:21.40 | harleypig | it works fine with a centos 6 iso |
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| 21:46.10 | goozbach | harleypig: run the install with cmdline boot option w/o reboot in the kickstart and see the error |
| 21:46.13 | goozbach | that helps |
| 21:46.40 | goozbach | also if you throw debugging stuff in %pre it helps |
| 21:47.05 | harleypig | I don't have reboot enabled ... or do I have to explicitly disable it? |
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| 21:50.30 | harleypig | And I know how to setup the %pre section, but what debugging stuff would I add to it? |
| 21:52.46 | goozbach | df -h |
| 21:52.49 | goozbach | mount |
| 21:52.50 | goozbach | cat /proc/mounts |
| 21:53.04 | goozbach | ususally echo'ing that all to /dev/tty9 or whatnot |
| 21:53.14 | goozbach | IIRC 'reboot' is explicit |
| 21:53.43 | goozbach | wait, I'm not 100% sure about when %pre runs |
| 21:54.00 | goozbach | it's likely before partitioning |
| 21:54.03 | goozbach | nevermind |
| 21:59.45 | harleypig | Centos 7 install process uses tmux and I was able to get to a shell and cp the log files to another location. |
| 21:59.52 | harleypig | Pretty dang cool. |
| 22:00.12 | harleypig | It's just having to wade trhough them all and figure out what the stupid mistake is. |
| 22:03.01 | harleypig | according to https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/sect-kickstart-syntax.html halt is the default action, not reboot. |
| 22:12.32 | harleypig | goozbach: using cmdline didn't change the output at all. |
| 22:18.30 | goozbach | cmdline goes into the boot options not the kickstart |
| 22:18.32 | goozbach | ie |
| 22:18.43 | goozbach | linux ks=http://foo.com/ks cmdline |
| 22:19.12 | harleypig | Oh ... not part of kickstart then? |
| 22:19.46 | goozbach | yeah |
| 22:19.50 | goozbach | it's the first thing |
| 22:20.03 | goozbach | it changes the mode from 'text' or 'gui' to a full cmdline version |
| 22:20.16 | goozbach | works great for either VM or serial console debugging of kickstarts |
| 22:20.23 | harleypig | ok, thanks. |
| 22:22.14 | harleypig | Well, I edited the append line in the iso menu on boot up, but I'm not seeing any difference in the output so far. |
| 22:23.21 | harleypig | And what the heck is dracut-initqueue downloading that takes so long? |
| 22:27.14 | harleypig | Yeah, adding cmdline to the kernel parameters didn't change the output in any way. |
| 22:28.41 | harleypig | This is the kernel line from the iso: vmlinux initrd=initrd.img ks=http://vr.vwh.net/files/ks/ks_minimal_centos_7.cfg inst.sshd ... and I just added cmdline to it and booted with it. |
| 22:30.43 | goozbach | hmm |
| 22:38.44 | harleypig | The thing is, I'm pretty sure this is happening at the lvm setup, which appears to be long after the kernel is booted. |
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| 22:54.06 | goozbach | harleypig: try bumping your /boot partition to 1G |
| 22:54.27 | goozbach | 500M is pushing it if you've got updates and plus enabled |
| 23:00.53 | harleypig | For the boot partition? |
| 23:01.43 | goozbach | yup |
| 23:03.20 | harleypig | So, I should probably consider as much as 2G then? |
| 23:04.56 | goozbach | it depends on the lifecycle of the kickstart file |
| 23:05.51 | harleypig | Ok. I'll play with the size of the boot partition and see what that gets me. |
| 23:06.14 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.52 | harleypig | Well, hell ... it looks like that might have been it ... now I'm getting an error about something in the ks file. Wheee! Debugging is fun! |
| 23:11.16 | harleypig | Oh ... I never noticed the autopart command ... I wonder if I can make that work for me. |
| 23:13.21 | goozbach | autopart is deep magic |
| 23:13.41 | goozbach | I prefer to explicitly make my partitions |
| 23:13.54 | goozbach | esp if it's a vm template I'm building |
| 23:14.27 | harleypig | Makes sense |
| 23:14.55 | harleypig | Oh ... and it doesn't seem to have a way of saying "No, I don't want a separate home partition, thanks." |
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| 23:43.52 | goozbach | http://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/30xa67/wp_cause_of_death_appears_to_you_as_floating_text/cpwokox |
| 23:43.54 | goozbach | holy crap! |
| 23:43.58 | goozbach | good writing |