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| 00:10.17 | RyanE | on the Apricot tree? |
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| 02:55.38 | RyanE | What Linux distribution would you recommend for my Wife's new computer? She's been on Windows for forever, but is willing to give Linux a chance... |
| 02:57.07 | asoc | Is she a computer person at all? |
| 02:57.59 | RyanE | She browses, word processes, and does email. |
| 02:58.09 | asoc | Go look at ZorinOS |
| 02:58.12 | RyanE | She's already using Firefox / Chrome and Thunderbird. |
| 02:58.41 | asoc | That is what I put my 80 year old grandpa on when XP went out of support and he was wigging out about it being a problem. |
| 02:59.19 | asoc | He even remembered how to enable his printer after only being showed once quickly. |
| 02:59.29 | asoc | remembered/figured out |
| 03:00.48 | asoc | It is pretty slick especially since the menus can be Windows 7 style so the learning curve is not bad at all. |
| 03:00.55 | RyanE | nice. |
| 03:01.11 | asoc | They even set up wine winetricks playonlinux and stuff. |
| 03:01.21 | RyanE | Thanks. I may give that a try. |
| 03:01.35 | RyanE | I got her an i5 NUC. |
| 03:01.39 | RyanE | should be here tomorrow. |
| 03:01.57 | asoc | Some guy went over to my grandpas house ahd helped him install some windows applications and didn't even realize he wasn't on Linux. |
| 03:02.02 | asoc | Sweet. |
| 03:02.03 | RyanE | ha! |
| 03:02.21 | asoc | I meant to say wasn't on Windows |
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| 15:54.31 | jnbek | ~lart youtah |
| 15:54.31 | infobot | slaps youtah upside the head with a wet fish |
| 15:54.51 | jnbek | eww |
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| 16:22.45 | Jayce^ | ~blame jnbek |
| 16:22.46 | infobot | ACTION blames jnbek (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 16:23.03 | jnbek | pfft |
| 16:23.11 | jnbek | can't put that off on me homie |
| 16:24.40 | jnbek | bit of lag there, eh |
| 16:29.49 | Jayce^ | :D |
| 16:29.49 | Jayce^ | just strung you along to make it sting more |
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| 16:41.07 | jnbek | :) |
| 16:48.34 | spangborn | Good job, SF. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/bart-riders-exposed-to-measles-from-infected-passenger-linkedin-morning-evening-commute/ |
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| 17:28.18 | youtah | Canada eh? |
| 17:28.25 | youtah | I LOVE NACHOS |
| 17:28.52 | youtah | jnbek, I listened to your bass guitar jam! I approve! |
| 17:31.47 | youtah | is all about that bass (the fish) bout that bass (the fish) no treble hooks... |
| 17:32.13 | asoc | youtah: Why dont you like treble hooks? |
| 17:32.33 | youtah | they're difficult to remove and more likely to cause harm to the fish when catching and releating |
| 17:32.35 | youtah | releasing |
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| 17:32.42 | asoc | Valid point. |
| 17:32.46 | youtah | lol |
| 17:32.54 | asoc | I am usually a catch and eat guy myself. |
| 17:32.55 | youtah | has done a LOT of fishing in his time |
| 17:33.03 | youtah | yeah |
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| 17:33.34 | asoc | I should go fishing. I havent been in a while. |
| 17:34.23 | youtah | treble hooks usually cause the most damage to the smaller fish, which are usually fine with the large fish (the ones you want to eat) |
| 17:34.36 | youtah | so it makes it difficult to throw the smaller ones back |
| 17:34.45 | youtah | especially in lakes where there are limits imposed |
| 17:35.03 | asoc | ahhh Yea I can see that. |
| 17:35.10 | youtah | that being said |
| 17:35.43 | youtah | I still use them if I am bait fishing with power bait/cheese or on the end of certain types of lures I use when trolling |
| 17:36.04 | asoc | A lot of my fishing was done in a local man made fish pond. Lots of dumb fish the same size. |
| 17:36.05 | youtah | but I'll use a down rigger to get to the deeper depths on our boat, to make sure I am only in the bigger fish |
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| 17:37.33 | asoc | I have only fished off a boat twice or three times |
| 17:37.50 | youtah | Oh man |
| 17:37.52 | youtah | it's fantastic |
| 17:37.56 | youtah | my favorite way to fish |
| 17:38.15 | youtah | I mostly do trolling though... hardly any drifting |
| 17:38.35 | asoc | Once when I was like 5 I decided it would be fun to throttle all the way up. |
| 17:38.46 | asoc | My dad told me to steer where the fish were. |
| 17:39.25 | asoc | And I guess I decided that the fish were not around where we were. |
| 17:41.03 | asoc | My dad decided really quickly that a 5 year old driving the boat like that wasn't a good idea. |
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| 17:45.34 | BloodyThorn | ls |
| 17:45.36 | BloodyThorn | doh |
| 17:45.42 | BloodyThorn | Hola! |
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| 18:08.35 | bregalad | ~napoleon |
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| 18:13.18 | eightyeight | ~linux |
| 18:13.18 | infobot | Was hackmii installer also made in Linux? |
| 18:14.45 | BloodyThorn | Hmm, I should know that. |
| 18:17.12 | BloodyThorn | The hackmii installer is just an elf file, right? |
| 18:17.24 | BloodyThorn | I didn't think it was os specific for anything other than the wii. |
| 18:18.33 | BloodyThorn | Wiiload that comes with it is in Win, osx and linux binaries. |
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| 18:20.39 | BloodyThorn | Which reminds me, I need to update my Wii. |
| 18:30.16 | bregalad | ~napoleon eightyeight |
| 18:30.16 | infobot | ACTION makes eightyeight buy a lotto ticket for Napoleon |
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| 20:01.06 | eightyeight | firefox has gone the way of walled gardens and alienating users: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/02/10/extension-signing-safer-experience/ |
| 20:02.02 | bregalad | is it finally time for a new community browser? |
| 20:03.07 | sjansen | firefox has gone the way of increased security and protecting users: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/02/10/extension-signing-safer-experience/ |
| 20:03.32 | eightyeight | i can understand that side of the argument |
| 20:03.46 | bregalad | eightyeight: it's ironic because they've deliberately made the policy anti-3rd party |
| 20:03.46 | eightyeight | however, they have removed the ability to install unsigned extensions in the stable release |
| 20:04.01 | eightyeight | no config, no command line argument, no preference |
| 20:04.18 | bregalad | mozilla knows best |
| 20:05.21 | bregalad | now I don't know which house is more mad: chromium or mozilla |
| 20:05.23 | eightyeight | this is troubling, as some of my extensions come from github, not from AMO |
| 20:07.59 | sjansen | You still have options, including Developer Edition and Iceweasel. |
| 20:08.42 | eightyeight | afaik, Iceweasel just removes the Mozilla trademarks and branding, and replaces them with their own |
| 20:08.47 | eightyeight | other than that, source code is not forked |
| 20:08.53 | eightyeight | unlike GNU Icecat |
| 20:09.10 | eightyeight | so, Iceweasel will follow the same binary releases as Firefox |
| 20:11.36 | sjansen | That's assuming Debian doesn't have the same knee jerk reaction you did. |
| 20:12.07 | sjansen | Given Debian's track record, I'm expecting a lot of knee jerking. |
| 20:13.20 | eightyeight | i'm guessing there will be some pushback, and debating on debian-devel |
| 20:13.25 | eightyeight | but, chromium is also available |
| 20:13.30 | eightyeight | and many other browsers |
| 20:13.38 | sjansen | Requiring registration and review isn't onerous. It's not like the extension devs have to pay to get access to the SDK, give Mozilla 20% of their income, and avoid using the GPL. |
| 20:15.12 | eightyeight | it's mandatory DRM |
| 20:16.26 | sjansen | Yes, because they give you no other options. Like, oh I don't know, a special build tailored to the type of person that would install something direct from github. |
| 20:17.11 | romanovic | yeah... I don't see why they feel the need to enforce this. why not provide a review and signing option to developers, but still allowing users who wear big boy/girl pants to install unsigned plugins? |
| 20:17.12 | eightyeight | like μBlock? |
| 20:18.57 | eightyeight | enforcing extension signing is similar to teachers turning off the internet when teaching class |
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| 20:20.13 | sjansen | You know what, you've convinced me. Software should be designed exclusively with expert users in mind. If grandma or that guy in accounting are foolish enough to be tricked into installing a rogue extension they get what they deserve. |
| 20:20.48 | eightyeight | because that's worked so well for Windows and viruses |
| 20:21.06 | sjansen | Although I think Firefox hasn't done enough. As eightyeight mentioned, users could just switch to another browser. Therefore I think it's high time that Firefox also include a background job to uninstall alternatives. |
| 20:21.52 | eightyeight | ~uninstall sjansen |
| 20:27.03 | eightyeight | in other news, GnuPG 2.1.2 released: https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2015q1/000361.html |
| 20:27.59 | jnbek | youtah: that was actually a 7 string guitar. The pic shows me with a bass. I play bass too, but not on that recording :D |
| 20:30.23 | bregalad | ~sjansen eightyeight |
| 20:30.23 | infobot | ACTION tells eightyeight good things about sjansen |
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| 20:52.06 | youtah | jnbek, ah sweet! |
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| 21:13.23 | fungus | eightyeight, I'm sure they'll back down and provide a config option to allow unsigned addons. Probably with a big nasty warning. |
| 21:14.07 | eightyeight | it's hard being a firefox user these days |
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| 21:40.09 | levi | I don't find it hard to use firefox. I don't always use it, but I use it fairly often. |
| 21:41.04 | bregalad | levi: you're just not a hard user |
| 21:42.11 | levi | I'm hardcore. :P |
| 21:47.09 | levi | I installed Arch Linux on a Chromebox. |
| 21:49.21 | tylerdmace | how does it run? |
| 21:49.24 | tylerdmace | how well, rather |
| 21:51.41 | levi | Pretty well, actually. It's a very minimal install, but the bits that are installed and hooked up work smoothly. |
| 21:57.10 | levi | I've got the network managed by systemd-networkd, and a system-wide pulseaudio install, and it's got the basic dev stuff and dependencies for the program I'm writing. So it boots in a couple of seconds and just works smoothly. |
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| 21:58.54 | tylerdmace | nothing makes me happier than a sub 3-second boot |
| 21:59.03 | tylerdmace | thank God for the coming of SSDs |
| 22:04.05 | levi | Yup. |
| 22:04.26 | levi | Hard to beat a $160 Haswell Celeron complete with SSD and RAM. |
| 22:06.55 | tylerdmace | I picked up a lenovo edu series x140 a couple months back; first apu buy |
| 22:07.20 | tylerdmace | got ubuntu on it and have been pretty impressed with it for being a 250 dollar purchase |
| 22:08.02 | Jayce^ | neybar_work_ has been playing a lot with one as well |
| 22:12.37 | tylerdmace | With which? |
| 22:13.19 | levi | Not crazy about Ubuntu on this chromebox. Something's really slowing down the boot. |
| 22:14.40 | tylerdmace | well ubuntu is gonna come with a bunch of extras; the modern day mandrake/mandriva |
| 22:15.19 | tylerdmace | I noticed Mint was getting pretty slow, too; I hadn't used it since Mint 15, I believe. But between then and the latest, it's gotten pretty heavy on the boot time |
| 22:18.19 | levi | Huh, it's also not properly updating resolv.conf. WTF. |
| 22:18.31 | levi | It's got problems that aren't typical Ubuntu problems. |
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| 22:30.58 | youtah | Holy crapola... some serious baskets there... https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1120123998004092&set=vb.213950138621487&type=2&theater |
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| 22:56.19 | jnbek | so youtah part of my reasoning for the song spam, aside from the selfish plug, was to see if anyone could actually see it. I've notices lately that most of my songs I share, never get any likes or comments, and I wonder if FB is pulling that "algorithms" shizz to hide it from all but a handful. Fact that you saw it adds doubt to my theory, but not a complete bust |
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| 23:07.20 | unum | darn the linux softphone do not sound as good as the linux ones |
| 23:07.27 | unum | I hope it's just a setting |
| 23:07.39 | unum | but I've spent two hours on it and can't find anything |
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| 23:38.49 | youtah | hey jnbek ... speaking of shredding.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmcuoaqdJ9w |
| 23:39.29 | jnbek | uhh |
| 23:39.44 | jnbek | that was... |
| 23:39.49 | jnbek | not really what i expected |
| 23:39.51 | jnbek | lol |
| 23:40.01 | youtah | LOL |
| 23:40.04 | youtah | did you watch the full thing? |
| 23:40.08 | jnbek | i did |
| 23:40.11 | youtah | LOL |
| 23:40.14 | youtah | amazing, eh? |
| 23:40.19 | jnbek | ya |
| 23:40.27 | youtah | Weird Al really knows how to shred on stage |
| 23:40.35 | jnbek | that was some of the cleanest shredding I think I've ever seen |
| 23:40.41 | jnbek | or heard |
| 23:40.46 | youtah | like a well oiled machine |
| 23:41.40 | jnbek | so did you really like my 10 minute improv/groove? |
| 23:50.41 | youtah | yeah, although I will admit that I had it playing in the background will I was working on the homework for my personal finance class |
| 23:50.49 | youtah | that I am taking up at the UofU |
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