| 00:00.59 | rsimpkins | I see them. Hurray! |
| 00:01.03 | eightyeight | word |
| 00:01.06 | rsimpkins | Doing a test box now. |
| 00:01.19 | eightyeight | imma go home now |
| 00:01.21 | eightyeight | & |
| 00:01.22 | rsimpkins | Test box == irc box. So I'll go bye bye. |
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| 00:03.37 | rsimpkins | And back. Thank you so much pashdown for getting on it so fast. :) |
| 00:03.50 | rsimpkins | Now to update a bazillion and one more hosts.... |
| 00:07.56 | eightyeight | where's the love? |
| 00:08.07 | eightyeight | ~lart rsimpkins |
| 00:08.07 | infobot | says "boot to the head" and knocks rsimpkins over |
| 00:08.22 | rsimpkins | eightyeight: Hey. I thought you left! :) |
| 00:08.25 | rsimpkins | eightyeight++ |
| 00:08.36 | eightyeight | phone, yo |
| 00:08.51 | eightyeight | ⺠|
| 00:08.53 | sjansen | rsimpkins: Do I get a ++ too if I lart you? |
| 00:09.13 | sjansen | ~lart rsimpkins for great good |
| 00:09.13 | infobot | calls rsimpkins on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home for great good |
| 00:09.32 | rsimpkins | sjansen-- |
| 00:09.53 | sjansen | The ingratitude of some people! |
| 00:10.03 | rsimpkins | sjansen: How's life these days? Do you get the joy of patching systems like a madman due to catchy vulnerability names? |
| 00:10.56 | sjansen | Let's put it this way: I asked a co-worker for recommendations if I decided to take up drinking by the end of the day. |
| 00:11.45 | eightyeight | he already us a Mac user with long hair. he might as well start drinking |
| 00:12.06 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Go single malt, or go home. |
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| 00:27.36 | sjansen | rsimpkins: cheers ;) |
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| 00:45.33 | rsimpkins | eightyeight: Someone in #centos is saying the /7 mirror isn't complete on mirrors.xmission.com. Can you try to see if there is anything left to grab? |
| 00:46.20 | eightyeight | sure. I'. on my phone, so it might be slow |
| 00:46.24 | eightyeight | uno momento |
| 00:46.28 | rsimpkins | Thank you sir. |
| 00:49.37 | eightyeight | so, there isn't anything specific that should be excluding it |
| 00:49.46 | rsimpkins | Cool. Thanks. |
| 00:49.49 | eightyeight | so, I started a new sync again |
| 00:49.54 | rsimpkins | Thanks. |
| 00:50.03 | eightyeight | NP. I'll keep you posted |
| 00:52.43 | eightyeight | finished. can you check again? |
| 00:52.55 | rsimpkins | Yup, confirmed it is there. Thank you very much for helping. |
| 00:54.28 | eightyeight | np |
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| 03:24.04 | spangborn | youtah: I'm in Smithfield, RI. |
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| 03:45.33 | spangborn | From my hotel window. Snowing for over 24 hours now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCReVANfIVI |
| 03:47.23 | goozbach | harleypig: http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2tv3bh/well_i_know_where_im_getting_murdered/ |
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| 04:11.59 | aaronsca | pashdown: thanks for having xmission be so quick with getting the glibc updates and running a great mirror! really saved me today :) |
| 04:12.17 | pashdown | our pleasure |
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| 15:38.36 | eightyeight | http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/28/3616169/mormon-church-lgbt-religion/ |
| 15:38.58 | eightyeight | apropos: http://i.imgur.com/k7sylEW.jpg |
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| 15:55.26 | jima | perfect, politics AND religion in #utah ;-) |
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| 15:57.59 | eightyeight | ð |
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| 16:05.17 | tensai | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 16:05.17 | infobot | pries Jayce^'s back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Jayce^ |
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| 16:08.56 | bregalad | ~napoleon tensai |
| 16:08.56 | infobot | ACTION makes tensai feed Tina |
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| 16:13.31 | bregalad | ~pinky |
| 16:13.31 | infobot | NAAaaaarf! |
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| 16:21.31 | Jayce^ | he's baaaack |
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| 16:21.54 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 16:21.54 | infobot | beats shalkie over the head with a microkernel |
| 16:21.57 | Jayce^ | pushes tensai into sjansen |
| 16:30.13 | youtah | spangborn, wut? |
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| 16:35.32 | jsmith | Jayce^: Harsh... |
| 16:36.18 | eightyeight | ~shoot Jayce^ |
| 16:36.18 | infobot | ACTION shoots Jayce^ in the ear with a glue gun! |
| 16:36.31 | youtah | So I finally got to meet tensai yesterday! |
| 16:36.42 | jsmith | sjansen: So, you had to know I was going to ask this eventually.... Now that harfbuzz is stable and widely available... |
| 16:36.45 | jsmith | youtah: Awesome! |
| 16:36.53 | youtah | He actually is a real human being! |
| 16:37.00 | jsmith | pauses for suspense... |
| 16:37.06 | youtah | three dimensional and everything! |
| 16:37.15 | Jayce^ | well, don't go too far with that |
| 16:37.20 | jsmith | youtah: Did he get you a phone? |
| 16:37.24 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 16:37.24 | sjansen | jsmith: Sadly, I'm not doing anything with text layout or Xiphias anymore. |
| 16:37.26 | tensai | or I have a very convincing android under my control |
| 16:37.32 | Jayce^ | he is workign on a phone system after all |
| 16:37.41 | youtah | Um... yeah...... I have... um... a phone. Yes. *cough cough* |
| 16:37.42 | jsmith | sjansen: ... but you're still interested, right? |
| 16:38.02 | jsmith | sjansen: I know you're not involved with that stuff anymore, I just had to ask :-) |
| 16:38.24 | sjansen | Yes. I'd love to be playing with it during free time, but have prioritized other stuff. |
| 16:38.43 | youtah | sjansen plays with sword fish? |
| 16:38.53 | Jayce^ | no, he's a brony |
| 16:39.09 | jsmith | Jayce^: No, that's Mike... |
| 16:39.18 | youtah | ^ |
| 16:39.31 | Jayce^ | oh, we know about mike for sure, but sjansen is just as bad |
| 16:40.24 | youtah | no discriminating here |
| 16:40.39 | sjansen | Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not a brony. I limit my fetish to cat pictures. |
| 16:40.56 | fozzmoo | meow. |
| 16:40.59 | Jayce^ | true, he's got a life size cheetarah... |
| 16:45.27 | jsmith | Jayce^: :-) |
| 16:46.51 | jsmith | sjansen: Here's one for you: https://500px.com/photo/85181985/lion-by-patrice-de-guign%C3%A9?from=user |
| 16:48.43 | sjansen | nice :) |
| 16:48.51 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.43 | jsmith | Jayce^: No, that is a time sink |
| 17:00.31 | levi | If anyone here's got Linux kernel development experience, a former co-worker of mine is looking for someone. |
| 17:01.45 | jsmith | Fedora is looking for another kernel engineer as well |
| 17:02.08 | jsmith | Seems kernel devel experience is a hot commodity these days |
| 17:02.30 | RyanE | so by Kernel Development experience, I'm sure you mean "Knows how to run Open Office", right? :) |
| 17:02.31 | levi | Yeah, probably mostly for Linux-based embedded stuff. |
| 17:03.09 | levi | Which I would recommend staying away from, if you want to maintain your sanity. |
| 17:03.39 | levi | I mean staying away from the Linux kernel-level stuff for ARM-based embedded systems, that is. |
| 17:04.34 | levi | I'm pretty sure the situation there is being influenced by the awakening of Cthulu or something. |
| 17:05.01 | RyanE | When I think of Kernel development, I picture a console with lighted buttons on it like in Apollo 13. If you touch the wrong thing, you die. |
| 17:05.54 | T4rku5 | with a little sign taped over the abort button that says "don't push me" |
| 17:06.19 | RyanE | "Oops! Just jettisoned the LEM" |
| 17:06.22 | levi | Normal x86 Linux kernel development is a bit chaotic. ARM Linux kernel development is unspeakable. |
| 17:06.50 | fozzmoo | Ooh! Oooh! I know how to use LibreOffice! |
| 17:07.20 | RyanE | Apparently, I don't even know how to say it properly. :) |
| 17:07.28 | RyanE | Open schmopen. |
| 17:07.30 | jsmith | levi: And then there's AArch64 |
| 17:07.40 | jsmith | levi: Which is improving, but still the wild west of kernel devel |
| 17:07.45 | sjansen | levi: I replaced the normal kernel scheduler with a mickey mouse round robin implementation for a class assignment. Is that close enough? |
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| 17:08.08 | RyanE | I wrote a kernel for a class assignment. It sucked. |
| 17:09.24 | levi | jsmith: Heh, there you get the instability of the overall architecture support along with the chip-specific churn and overall kernel churn. Sounds like fun. :P |
| 17:09.54 | levi | Speaking of office programs... how does MS Office continue to dominate? It's so *bad*. |
| 17:10.25 | fozzmoo | yes. |
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| 17:10.48 | RyanE | I suspect it has something to do with all the free MSOffice they give to schools. |
| 17:11.25 | levi | I was looking at a Microsoft-published paper about a contest they held regarding indoor location technology. There was one line where a hyphenated word stuck about 3/4 of an inch into the margin. :P |
| 17:11.38 | fozzmoo | heee. |
| 17:11.50 | RyanE | WordPerfect 5.1 *for DOS* didn't do that... :) |
| 17:12.11 | sjansen | I doubt schools matter much. More important is all the existing documents and Office's undocumented quirks. |
| 17:12.14 | fozzmoo | I still hold WP5.1 for DOS in high regard as a word processor. |
| 17:12.19 | levi | And a bunch of my coworkers that have been using a RST-based toolchain for developing an IEEE standard document have had to port it to Word now that it's nearly finished so they can turn it over to the IEEE editors. |
| 17:12.23 | goozbach | so I broke facebook I think |
| 17:12.29 | goozbach | can't interact with it |
| 17:12.30 | fozzmoo | goozbach: \o/ |
| 17:12.42 | RyanE | my Dad used WP5.1 for DOS until a few years ago, when I couldn't figure out how to run it under a more recent Windows. |
| 17:12.50 | RyanE | ironic, it'd probably run fine under Linux / DOSBox |
| 17:12.51 | levi | Turns out nobody can get the damned thing to generate a PDF with both links *and* visible equations. |
| 17:12.54 | sjansen | All it takes is discovering you billed a custom incorrectly because LibreOffice handled a spreadsheet formula differently and you'll decide it's too expensive to switch. |
| 17:13.34 | fozzmoo | I've been asking around for someone who has 5.1 floppies so I could try it under dosemu or something. |
| 17:13.46 | levi | RyanE: It probably runs fine under Windows/DosBox. That's how all the classic DOS-era games work. |
| 17:14.09 | sjansen | Home users and students only drive corporate policy in exceptional cases, like the creation of a new market combined with Blackberry getting spanked for *years*. |
| 17:14.32 | goozbach | another reason openoffice doesn't win is it's hostile to users |
| 17:14.33 | RyanE | levi: true. He's retired and now that he's not Stake Executive Secretary, he doesn't have much need for it anymore, but yeah. |
| 17:15.29 | levi | Printing might be a challenge, though. |
| 17:15.40 | RyanE | yeah, that was the problem under Windows 7 |
| 17:16.01 | levi | Well, openoffice is not great either. But at least I don't have to pay for the privilege of being abused by it. |
| 17:17.57 | levi | It's funny; the official IEEE published documents aren't typeset by Word. The editors translate them to a real desktop publishing package; framemaker or something. |
| 17:18.16 | levi | Yet they only accept Word documents from the working groups. :/ |
| 17:18.35 | levi | Ahh, bureaucracy. |
| 17:19.03 | levi | At least you don't have to format all your diagrams as ASCII-art. |
| 17:20.51 | levi | Oh; fun-fact: Word doesn't have reasonable support for importing vector artwork that's in a standard format. |
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| 17:28.45 | bregalad | goozbach: libreoffice ftw :) |
| 17:30.34 | goozbach | till it can't do an important macro and then you submit a patch and it gets rejected cause it's not important or "you shouldn't be using it that way" |
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| 18:30.07 | bregalad | haha |
| 18:31.43 | unum | there we go 7 talks submitted |
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| 18:37.46 | programmerq | I want to get a oneplus one. shopping around for no-contract plans, metropcs seems like their month-to-month unlimited plan is decent. anybody have experience with metropcs? |
| 18:42.10 | SunSparc | googles metropcs... |
| 18:42.14 | youtah | harleypig, https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10931280_771612196254068_5316946031752928443_n.jpg?oh=08c94b8f20e8b31667c9bd604583f80d&oe=556CEA1F&__gda__=1428371139_39c93956793e55bdf1412ff005c4dc3c |
| 18:42.40 | youtah | Link is extra long, just the way bregalad likes it |
| 18:42.50 | SunSparc | I wonder how they compare with Net10 (http://www.net10wireless.com/) |
| 18:42.56 | youtah | and harleypig make sure to check out the related article |
| 18:47.50 | bregalad | youtah: URL it like it's 2003! |
| 18:48.20 | youtah | 2003?! I don't see geocities anywhere in that link! |
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| 19:08.13 | bregalad | irregular expressions |
| 19:08.14 | jima | youtah: it's not the length of the link that matters, it's the bandwidth |
| 19:08.46 | bregalad | the last interaction I had with geocities was in 1998 or 1999 |
| 19:08.55 | youtah | lol jima |
| 19:09.01 | youtah | its the quality of the link jima |
| 19:09.08 | youtah | do you know how to use the link |
| 19:09.41 | bregalad | youtah: I'm still trying to figure out how to parse it into my REST engine |
| 19:09.44 | jima | bandwidth is highly dependent on the quality of the link |
| 19:10.10 | jima | if you have a lot of bandwidth, you know the quality is good |
| 19:10.22 | jima | this metaphor is getting pretty abused. |
| 19:10.26 | jlp_znc | youtah: see PM |
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| 20:37.59 | harleypig | Steamed clams! |
| 20:38.05 | youtah | ROFL |
| 20:40.52 | youtah | so harleypig and I have decided to go on a see food diet |
| 20:52.12 | unum | that's the diet I've been on for years |
| 20:52.22 | unum | worked better for me before I turned 27 |
| 20:53.23 | youtah | lol unum |
| 20:54.42 | jlp_znc | I think I was around 31 or so when I changed jobs to one that didn't require any walking. It wasn't pretty (still isn't). |
| 20:56.17 | youtah | lol |
| 20:57.10 | youtah | That's kind of when I wonder if I shouldn't become an orange farmer or something... sounds a-peel-ing |
| 20:57.40 | jlp_znc | the pun, the only true human form of humor. |
| 20:58.46 | jlp_znc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokester |
| 20:59.27 | RyanE | jlp_znc: I disagree. I know of no other animals who use limericks. |
| 21:00.17 | jlp_znc | limericks are not jokes |
| 21:00.27 | jlp_znc | they may be humorous, but they are not jokes. |
| 21:01.18 | jima | Q_Continuum suggested i paste this here: https://twitter.com/0x7eff/status/560266258071834624 |
| 21:01.20 | RyanE | pedants aren't humorous. The Internet disagrees with you. |
| 21:02.05 | jima | RyanE: on the contrary, i'm both pedantic AND humorous. |
| 21:02.11 | jima | (occasionally) |
| 21:02.29 | RyanE | wasn't talking to you. But thanks for the update. :) |
| 21:02.31 | harleypig | I have a humerus ... |
| 21:02.42 | RyanE | humorously pedantic. |
| 21:03.18 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 21:03.32 | jima | pedantically humorous! (and what you said.) |
| 21:03.45 | bregalad | commutative |
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| 21:09.15 | harleypig | complicative |
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| 21:44.31 | jlp_znc | hah, the text of Jokester is online: http://bluebox.ippt.pan.pl/~vkoval/fantasy.html |
| 21:44.54 | jlp_znc | the background makes it painful to read, though. copy and paste are your friends! |
| 21:50.33 | spangborn | shivers. |
| 21:50.38 | spangborn | Rhode Island be cold. |
| 21:50.48 | spangborn | prods youtah |
| 21:50.54 | jima | that's why i avoid going there |
| 21:51.08 | spangborn | Well, and the part about it being Rhode Island. |
| 21:51.16 | spangborn | Which is neither a road, nor an island. |
| 21:51.22 | jlp_znc | I"ve been to RI... it's nice in the spring time. |
| 21:51.24 | jima | except that one time... https://what-if.xkcd.com/8/ |
| 21:51.26 | jlp_znc | and fall |
| 21:51.45 | jlp_znc | I've only been there en route to Massachusettes, though. |
| 21:52.04 | jima | i've never actually been there. i'm not terribly saddened by this. |
| 21:52.13 | spangborn | Haha. |
| 21:52.22 | jlp_znc | going anywhere outside of Boston but in the Boston area, I would always fly into RI and drive up rather than flying into Logan |
| 21:52.40 | spangborn | I did the opposite on Sunday night. |
| 21:52.46 | spangborn | Flew into Logan, drove in to RI |
| 21:52.54 | jima | going into northern new hampshire, flying into montreal actually worked better. |
| 21:53.00 | jlp_znc | I guess the big dig is done, now, right? |
| 21:53.05 | jima | uhhhh |
| 21:53.07 | jlp_znc | maybe it's easier to get in/out of Boston. |
| 21:53.09 | spangborn | Yeah. |
| 21:53.16 | spangborn | But I also did it at 1Am |
| 21:53.18 | spangborn | *AM |
| 21:53.19 | jima | i think so? my first encounter with it was in the summer of 1999 |
| 21:53.42 | jima | i was there in 2011 and i was like, "huh? what actually happened?" |
| 21:53.54 | spangborn | So many tunnels. |
| 21:54.00 | spangborn | And so confusing for GPS units. |
| 21:54.32 | jima | otoh, in 2011 i was going straight from logan to the northwestern burbs (westford...oh, wait, jsmith knows about this story) |
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| 21:59.32 | jlp_znc | westford... isn't that near chelmsford? |
| 22:00.13 | jlp_znc | Cadence has a big office in Chelmsford... I almost moved there back in 2002-ish. |
| 22:00.21 | jima | ...maybe? i've only been in the region twice in the last 16 years... |
| 22:00.40 | jima | yes |
| 22:01.00 | jima | about 5 miles apart |
| 22:01.12 | jlp_znc | I loved youw you would be driving through the woods and realize that you were in the middle of town. :-) |
| 22:01.18 | jlp_znc | s/youw/how/ |
| 22:01.44 | jima | yeah, that was slightly surreal |
| 22:01.48 | jlp_znc | I didn't love how you could be driving south on a road and, without making any turns off of that road, find yourself driving north. |
| 22:02.36 | jima | oh, come on, now, we have some of those here ;-) |
| 22:03.03 | jlp_znc | name six. |
| 22:03.08 | jima | ha |
| 22:04.57 | Jayce^ | jlp_znc: it's never easy to get in/out of boston |
| 22:05.10 | Jayce^ | and now they switched around all the roads near Logan |
| 22:07.23 | jima | jlp_znc: i-215, i-80, atherton drive, bangerter highway/parkway, bitterbush lane, colorow road (ok, that one's kind of a cop-out) |
| 22:08.05 | jima | granted, bangerter is pretty much a cop-out, too, but i was making a point. ;-) |
| 22:08.05 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 22:08.25 | jima | atherton drive was the one that really popped into my head, though |
| 22:08.32 | RyanE | roads that are *meant* to be circular (i.e. beltways) don't count. |
| 22:08.38 | RyanE | neither do roundabouts. :) |
| 22:08.42 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 22:09.57 | jima | RyanE: so, i-80 and atherton drive. maybe bitterroot lane still. |
| 22:10.11 | RyanE | < 6. :) |
| 22:10.24 | jima | oh, traverse ridge road |
| 22:11.38 | RyanE | Speaking of MA: Detractors of Massachusetts governor Endicott Peabody said that three of the stateâs towns had been named for him: Peabody, Marblehead, and Athol. |
| 22:13.19 | jima | ambassador way, comanche drive. 6! |
| 22:13.39 | RyanE | well done! |
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| 22:15.12 | jima | cartographic challenges are kind of a thing of mine. |
| 22:17.40 | bregalad | you're free to drive circularly in a parking lot |
| 22:18.33 | RyanE | more fun if there's snow and you're in a RWD... :) |
| 22:28.17 | goozbach | where's that wiggly link |
| 22:28.28 | goozbach | the seizure inducing one? |
| 22:29.16 | RyanE | This one? http://goo.gl/WTs6c8 |
| 22:29.29 | goozbach | no |
| 22:29.48 | goozbach | the one with the black waliing thing that follows your mouse |
| 22:29.50 | RyanE | just screwing with anyone who types in a shortened address... :) |
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| 22:31.22 | Jayce^ | goozbach: ask ckrupa, I know he had it |
| 22:31.42 | Jayce^ | nm, found it: http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ |
| 22:32.26 | RyanE | wow, that *is* seizure-inducing... |
| 22:35.43 | goozbach | thanks! |
| 22:36.20 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/JICaWfx.gif |
| 22:51.38 | spangborn | ~lart youtah |
| 22:51.38 | infobot | blames youtah for all the evil in the world |
| 22:51.52 | spangborn | That's not too far from the truth. |
| 22:52.03 | spangborn | Anyway, off to dinner. Hopefully my team picks something better than Chili's this time. |
| 22:57.34 | youtah | so spangborn |
| 22:57.39 | youtah | what you doing in RI? |
| 22:57.51 | youtah | Showing them that SnOMGeddon isn't as scary as it seems? |
| 23:00.11 | RyanE | sNOMgeddon. |
| 23:01.09 | bregalad | why is it that every storm that precipitates on NYC gets its own logo? |
| 23:02.11 | youtah | because the East Coast is a bunch of whiners |
| 23:05.10 | bregalad | haha |
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| 23:11.18 | RyanE | more work for graphic artists. |
| 23:14.21 | bregalad | ~brain |
| 23:14.21 | infobot | YES! |
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| 23:39.32 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/ABguGnI.png |
| 23:40.51 | RyanE | C-. would not read again. |
| 23:41.23 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/5LeeYGK.png |
| 23:41.30 | youtah | how about that one RyanE? |
| 23:41.32 | RyanE | not going to fall for that. |
| 23:41.34 | RyanE | :) |
| 23:41.51 | youtah | it's not the same |
| 23:41.55 | youtah | I don't promise |
| 23:41.58 | RyanE | heh |
| 23:42.00 | youtah | and it is really good too |
| 23:42.22 | youtah | This one isn't the same either http://i.imgur.com/GXpv86P.png |
| 23:42.34 | bregalad | youtah's url's are all the same, lots of letters and numbers |
| 23:42.37 | RyanE | note to self: Ignore youtah for a week or so. |
| 23:42.50 | youtah | They're all strings!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 23:42.59 | bregalad | superstrings? |
| 23:43.05 | bregalad | or sillystrings? |
| 23:43.12 | youtah | why not both |
| 23:43.15 | bregalad | supercilious strings? |
| 23:58.36 | youtah | as long as they aren't superstitious strings |
