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| 00:11.27 | infobot | It has been quite a day. Has it not? |
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| 00:20.23 | harleypig | Can't Find Poo? |
| 00:20.37 | harleypig | wait ... I'm late aren't I? *sigh* |
| 00:33.05 | unum | atoponce: now I remember what I wanted to talk to you about |
| 00:33.17 | unum | when I ran rsync I got a weird message from xmission's server |
| 00:33.37 | unum | Compression with rsyncd(8) is disabled. Please do use "-z" when syncing, as it |
| 00:33.38 | unum | is disabled. |
| 00:35.31 | atoponce | correct. to limit load on the mirror, if you want compression, you have to manually add it |
| 00:35.44 | atoponce | by default, it's off |
| 00:45.45 | unum | aaah that makes sense |
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| 01:24.47 | jima | all about which is deemed more expensive, server cpu vs. bandwidth :-) |
| 01:26.29 | jima | i imagine most rsync-able content is compressed anyway |
| 01:33.43 | joshh | always -avz |
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| 05:11.45 | goozbach | shalkie: I thought we did lunch in ATL? |
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| 14:50.41 | shalkie | Oh right, that brazilian place! We did. |
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| 16:37.39 | youtah | Jayce^, you ready for a Cuddle Burger today? |
| 16:38.08 | youtah | because.... goozbach's in the office! |
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| 16:40.42 | Jayce^ | w00t! |
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| 17:01.52 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:01.52 | infobot | slams olli_ against a large cement Tux |
| 17:07.25 | bregalad | ~napoleon sjansen |
| 17:07.26 | infobot | ACTION eats all of sjansen's steak |
| 17:08.11 | olli_ | infobot, woot |
| 17:08.11 | infobot | \o/ |
| 17:26.23 | eightyeight | ~nacho sjansen |
| 17:26.32 | eightyeight | ~nacho |
| 17:26.32 | infobot | NACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo....! |
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| 19:14.01 | d3c4f | Anyone here that is interested in SDR should check this out. It's from a really cool local guy, I'm sure several of you know him. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1703258614/psdr-pocket-hf-sdr-transceiver-with-vna-and-gps |
| 19:14.32 | eightyeight | bit pricey though |
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| 19:39.39 | unum | I'm a bit late on the news lego movie got snubbed |
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| 19:40.00 | bregalad | awards are stupid |
| 19:40.09 | bregalad | I don't know why anyone even cares |
| 19:40.43 | bregalad | just so you can get validation that your opinion from other people's opinions |
| 19:40.54 | bregalad | sounds like political parties |
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| 19:41.23 | levi | Someone's peeved about not winning any awards. |
| 19:42.56 | unum | bregalad: you seriously don't think people benefit in other ways from winning elections? |
| 19:43.29 | bregalad | unum: no |
| 19:43.38 | bregalad | wait, your question is a double negative |
| 19:44.02 | bregalad | unum: winning elections is fine, I'm talking about political parties |
| 19:44.56 | bregalad | who rather than working out solid policy only seem to generate divisive rage |
| 19:45.47 | bregalad | like movie awards, 'my favorite movie won these awards, therefore I am justified in enjoying it. Your movie didn't win awards, so it sucks' |
| 19:46.26 | bregalad | or 'my favorite movie wasn't nominated for any awards, so the institution is jaded and overrun with the bad guys' |
| 19:52.10 | sjansen | bregalad: http://i.imgur.com/6g1FLCh.jpg |
| 20:06.28 | bregalad | there are lots of people who do excellent things even in movies and comparing them with the intent to find a winner is sort of a bogus errand from the beginning |
| 20:07.46 | levi | sjansen++ |
| 20:08.40 | levi | We've got a Grammy award in the office here. |
| 20:08.48 | bregalad | like for example, Feynman accepting the Nobel prize because he knew he'd get less attention accepting than declining it, even though he knew the award itself was just an arbitrary label |
| 20:09.15 | sjansen | levi: Pretty sure that makes your a horrible person. |
| 20:11.20 | levi | Feynman was a great physicist and an interesting person, but I'm not sure what his personal behavior and opinions regarding awards should be more or less relevant than anyone else's. |
| 20:11.27 | levi | w/what/why |
| 20:11.38 | levi | I rewrote half of that sentence halfway through. :P |
| 20:12.43 | sjansen | levi: Embrace your typos. |
| 20:13.08 | sjansen | Or are you worried you're no longer in the running for the "fewest typos" award? |
| 20:13.10 | rsimpkin1 | Does anyone like to manage many petabytes of data for a living? |
| 20:14.07 | levi | Nope. Nobody likes that. :P |
| 20:14.14 | rsimpkin1 | We have positions. |
| 20:14.23 | jsmith | rsimpkin1: Been there, done that... |
| 20:14.34 | jsmith | rsimpkin1: (and I think I still have the t-shirt) |
| 20:14.45 | fungus | Depends... Are you allowed to tell users to go to hell when they want to keep old, unnecessary data for decades? |
| 20:15.13 | rsimpkin1 | jsmith: need devops dude for a bazillion bits of storage management. send me names. |
| 20:15.33 | jsmith | rsimpkin1: Don't we all :-) |
| 20:15.40 | rsimpkin1 | fungus: yes. but you still have to store the data. |
| 20:15.47 | fungus | lol. |
| 20:15.57 | jsmith | rsimpkin1: If I come across someone that fits that bill and doesn't want to work for us, I'll definitely pass them along |
| 20:16.08 | rsimpkin1 | jsmith: HA! ... Oh dear. |
| 20:16.29 | jsmith | rsimpkin1: Seems like technical recruiting is hitting "bubble" stage again... |
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| 20:16.35 | bregalad | sjansen, levi: so I'm guessing you're trying to tell me my opinion is wrong but without giving any reasons |
| 20:16.44 | sjansen | Clearly your business model is flawed. You should be encouraging customers to retain data, then charge them through the nose per byte. |
| 20:16.48 | bregalad | I am wondering why you think this way |
| 20:16.49 | rsimpkins | jsmith: No. These aren't even posted yet. |
| 20:16.51 | levi | bregalad: No, it's your opinion. You're welcome to it. |
| 20:17.00 | rsimpkins | jsmith: I just want people will skillz. |
| 20:17.11 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Like I said, don't we all :-) |
| 20:17.36 | rsimpkins | jsmith: I don't know. Do we? How many people have open reqs locally? |
| 20:17.48 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Bluehost does :-) |
| 20:18.01 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Well, it's because people keep coming to work for us. |
| 20:18.12 | jsmith | rsimpkins: And here on the East Coast, everybody is desperate to find more Linux admins |
| 20:18.15 | rsimpkins | jsmith: And then they stay for like 3 months and move on. |
| 20:18.40 | jsmith | rsimpkins: I'd have an extra 10k in my pocket right now if I could refer any number of positions to local companies |
| 20:18.46 | sjansen | rsimpkins: That's not a ringing endorsement... |
| 20:19.06 | jsmith | rsimpkins: It's bad enough that I have recruiters cold-calling me -- mostly to see if I know anyone else that might be interested |
| 20:19.24 | rsimpkins | sjansen: No. It isn't. It is tough working in a big-ish company. It takes people with the right state of mind. |
| 20:20.17 | rsimpkins | jsmith: I started asking recruiters how long they have been in their positions. If less than 12 months, I end the conversation and move on. |
| 20:20.30 | unum | hey carmony is hiring.... |
| 20:20.58 | jsmith | rsimpkins: I ask recruiters if they have a clue what the difference is between a developer and a systems administrator -- so far, only one recruiter has had a clue :-( |
| 20:21.08 | unum | I went to ksl to see how many openings there were, and their ad of course shows up special |
| 20:21.22 | rsimpkins | jsmith: To be fair... these days I can't tell much of a difference myself. |
| 20:21.53 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Dev-ops for the .... uh... well... short-term gain, I guess... |
| 20:22.07 | levi | rsimpkins: Well, there tends to be more of an overlap in one direction than the other. |
| 20:22.12 | sjansen | Developers still think the world is a friendly place. Systems administrators know better. |
| 20:22.20 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Whatever you want to call it. We hire software developers on our team now. |
| 20:22.59 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Our engineers have on-call queues. :) |
| 20:23.34 | rsimpkins | A great deal has changed here in the last couple of years. Quite a different sort of job. |
| 20:23.38 | levi | sjansen: Depends on the developers, I guess. |
| 20:23.57 | levi | rsimpkins: What do you mean by "on-call queues"? |
| 20:24.20 | rsimpkins | levi: Our engineers are operationally proficienty and responsible for day-to-day ops for several of their services. |
| 20:24.28 | rsimpkins | Minus my typos. |
| 20:24.57 | levi | rsimpkins: You mean they take turns being on-call for fixing faults? |
| 20:25.13 | rsimpkins | It isn't so much a dev versus ops culture any longer. It is just sort of one big mass of people. |
| 20:25.29 | rsimpkins | levi: Yes. Usually weekly. Depends on the team. |
| 20:26.22 | levi | Sounds like the sort of position that I was interviewing for with google a while back. I wasn't thrilled with the idea. |
| 20:27.10 | rsimpkins | I'm not saying it is better... but it is. Okay, I just said it. It is the best way to do it given our current state. But no one is really happy with current state. So we are evolving. |
| 20:27.29 | rsimpkins | I'm speaking industry wide here. |
| 20:27.34 | levi | For those interested in distributed systems: http://www.meetup.com/Utah-Distributed-Systems-Meetup-and-Reading-Group/events/214192442/ |
| 20:28.49 | levi | rsimpkins: Making engineers be responsible for their messes is good. I don't really want to be on-call, though, so I'd prefer other methods of being responsible. |
| 20:28.58 | rsimpkins | When I first got hired, machine provisioning involved rsyncing files from a similar server, then copy/pasting scripts from a wiki article. |
| 20:30.03 | rsimpkins | levi: The next place for us is figuring out how to transition ops from teams who have cleaned up their mess. |
| 20:30.27 | rsimpkins | levi: And they have been really busy cleaning up the mess. The architecture is looking better with every release. |
| 20:48.09 | levi | So, my test rig for verifying the accuracy of the time synchronization mechanism on these network adapters seems to work. |
| 20:50.58 | levi | It involves a microcontroller board to simultaneously pulse GPIO lines, a Pandaboard to collect logs, and a Linux kernel module for the adapter modules to take timestamps in response to the GPIO-triggered interrupt and log them. |
| 20:52.57 | levi | Now I just need to write some awk scripts to combine and reformat the logs and some R code to analyze and graph the data. |
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| 21:03.52 | unum | so in putty there is an option to change the font size when the window size is changed, thus keeping the same number of columns and rows |
| 21:04.24 | unum | does anyone know of an other terminal emulator that supports that option |
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| 21:20.19 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/ZiUZ4vV.gif |
| 21:32.09 | levi | Those of you who are interested in math and/or esoteric programming languages will find this interesting: http://goo.gl/aNZtXZ |
| 21:32.30 | levi | unum: That's a nice option. |
| 21:32.54 | levi | unum: Haven't heard of it in other emulators before, though. |
| 21:33.31 | levi | So, a while back I was thinking about Forth and specifically about running it on microcontrollers. |
| 21:34.24 | levi | In order to do more interesting interfaces to the microcontroller programs, I pondered some stuff I'd seen regarding graphical capabilities of old serial terminals. |
| 21:37.33 | levi | It turns out that recent versions of xterm support some graphics protocols, DEC's ReGIS and Sixel along with Tek storage tube terminal protocools. |
| 21:38.14 | RyanE | So you're telling me that the stuff that happens in Sneakers could really happen? |
| 21:38.32 | levi | gnuplot and some other programs can output in these formats, so you can view the output directly in xterm. |
| 21:39.19 | levi | So I started writing a ReGIS I/O vocabulary in Forth, but I didn't get very far before I got distracted. |
| 21:40.26 | levi | It turns out the ReGIS emulation in xterm is not great, and most of the decent emulators were really expensive terminal emulation programs sold to enterprises migrating user terminals for their big-iron back-ends to PCs. |
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| 22:16.30 | youtah | Hey Jayce^ did you see that infected mushroom just liked my Facebook status? |
| 22:18.17 | Jayce^ | listened, not watched.. |
| 22:19.25 | youtah | you're just jealous |
| 22:20.24 | Jayce^ | I kinda prefer KafKaf |
| 22:22.57 | jnbek | prefers Death Metal |
| 22:28.40 | levi | This is the sort of thing you could output from your microcontroller: http://phk.freebsd.dk/AducLoran/animation2.gif |
| 22:29.04 | RyanE | Ooh! Sciensy! |
| 22:39.30 | bregalad | life metal |
| 22:39.51 | jnbek | bregalad: that too :D |
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| 22:52.12 | unum | levi: we have a console app that is locked at 80x40 columns so increasing the window doesn't get you any more characters on the screen |
| 22:52.19 | unum | so it's been a really nice feature for that |
| 23:04.00 | youtah | I heard you can even install software on computers now! |
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| 23:11.05 | youtah | Unix code? Sounds exciting to me! http://www.ksl.com/?sid=33123928&nid=968&fm=home_page&s_cid=toppick2 |
| 23:22.13 | youtah | https://twitter.com/TheMichaelRock/status/556198335862673408 |
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