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| 18:52.33 | youtah | Just because you can, doesn't mean you shou...... Screw that, let's totally do this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBcEg6klJI |
| 18:52.49 | youtah | Hey Jayce^ ... you know anyone with a Semi Truck? |
| 18:56.41 | jlp_znc | youtah: I do. my cousin owns a trucking company. unfortunately (for you) he lives in Minnesota |
| 19:01.02 | youtah | Tell him I have an idea |
| 19:01.10 | youtah | and to come out to the Miller Motor Sports Park |
| 19:01.13 | youtah | ;) |
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| 19:07.15 | bregalad | ~napoleon youtah |
| 19:07.15 | infobot | ACTION makes youtah his secret service captain |
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| 22:23.00 | youtah | DUDE |
| 22:23.02 | youtah | harleypig, |
| 22:23.04 | youtah | Dont even |
| 22:23.06 | youtah | .... |
| 22:23.11 | youtah | nope... I dont wanna talk to you |
| 22:23.59 | Jayce^ | ~mock youtah |
| 22:23.59 | infobot | ACTION pulls youtah's pants down and shows the world youtah's pink spotted underwear |
| 22:24.11 | youtah | doesn't even freaking invite me |
| 22:24.24 | youtah | I didn't know harleypig knew your brother Jayce^ |
| 22:24.51 | Jayce^ | well duh |
| 22:26.39 | Jayce^ | youtah: you know harleypig wants to recreate this shot... you could help http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9449757/p/7-year-Alamy_2298401a.jpg |
| 22:28.18 | youtah | is this SFW? |
| 22:28.23 | youtah | Keep in mind who sits by me |
| 22:28.38 | Jayce^ | it's a classis |
| 22:28.40 | Jayce^ | classic even |
| 22:28.47 | youtah | DUDE YES |
| 22:28.51 | youtah | I would be SO game |
| 22:29.16 | Jayce^ | he's been wanting to find somebody to help with that, make his "makethebadmanstop.com" site |
| 22:29.32 | Jayce^ | of course, harleypig, did you ever show jeff ouchy? |
| 22:45.33 | youtah | wonders what happened to harleypig ... he's not responding |
| 22:52.45 | youtah | http://fox13now.com/2014/11/24/woman-says-were-ready-for-ferguson-accidentally-shoots-self-in-head/ |
| 22:56.52 | eightyeight | guns don't kill peopele youtah. people do. |
| 22:57.11 | eightyeight | </sarcasm> |
| 22:58.40 | Jayce^ | well, given that she was waving it around, in a moving car... yeah, people do |
| 22:59.10 | eightyeight | the gun had nothing to do with it |
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| 23:06.10 | programmerq | youtah: who sits by you? |
| 23:08.09 | joshh | eightyeight: why do you love the terrorists? |
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| 23:10.31 | davido__ | Does anyone know of a good blog or resource regarding downtown salt lake city night life for out of town visitors? |
| 23:10.45 | eightyeight | joshh: because the bible. |
| 23:11.11 | eightyeight | ammunition is the real currency |
| 23:13.01 | joshh | davido__: do they like seeing their bartender make their drink? |
| 23:13.28 | joshh | if so that narrows it down a bit |
| 23:14.26 | joshh | if they like beer or pub food i can name the best spots but slc isn't exactly a nightlife mecca obviously |
| 23:14.27 | davido__ | joshh I'm basically putting together a wiki for conference attendees for a national tech conference that will be hosted in slc. |
| 23:14.44 | davido__ | one of the wiki pages is "Downtown Salt Lake City Night Life" |
| 23:14.47 | joshh | most salt palace convention visitors go home talking about how they had to walk a mile to get a drink and had to buy food to get it |
| 23:14.53 | davido__ | lol |
| 23:15.18 | joshh | what conference? |
| 23:15.18 | davido__ | well, human nature is to accept what they're told up front... better to be told than to discover such issues. |
| 23:15.31 | davido__ | YAPC::NA::2015 - SLC http://yapcna.org |
| 23:15.38 | programmerq | there is whiskey street not too far from salt palace |
| 23:15.46 | davido__ | it's hosted at Little America |
| 23:15.49 | joshh | there are still conferences for perl? |
| 23:16.00 | davido__ | yeah, i know, i always hear that sort of thing. |
| 23:16.12 | davido__ | It's actually still a growth industry. |
| 23:16.25 | davido__ | The share of the pie may be smaller but the pie continues to grow. |
| 23:16.33 | eightyeight | next thing you know, i'll hear people still use BSD |
| 23:16.54 | jlp_znc | *I* still use BSD! |
| 23:17.01 | joshh | just mention poplar street, bayou, beerhive, gracies, and beer bar, and that pretty much covers it |
| 23:17.03 | eightyeight | lies! |
| 23:17.09 | eightyeight | mac os x != bsd |
| 23:17.12 | joshh | squatters and redrock too |
| 23:17.19 | jlp_znc | I'm not talking macos |
| 23:17.26 | eightyeight | :) |
| 23:17.37 | eightyeight | ok. then you have my respect. :) |
| 23:17.44 | jlp_znc | beams |
| 23:17.44 | eightyeight | like it matters any |
| 23:17.47 | eightyeight | heh |
| 23:19.29 | davido__ | I wonder if there's anything interesting to mention aside from drinking establishments. |
| 23:19.36 | davido__ | or in addition to, I mean. |
| 23:19.45 | davido__ | a jazz club or something like that. |
| 23:19.50 | joshh | not really, unless you think they'll care about the temple stuff |
| 23:19.57 | davido__ | that's not really night. |
| 23:20.10 | davido__ | We'll have a different page for touristy stuff. |
| 23:20.14 | joshh | there used to be a place called monks house of jazz, but it was usually karaoke instead of jazz |
| 23:20.19 | joshh | bayou has live jazz many nights |
| 23:20.41 | joshh | davido__: are you from slc? |
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| 23:21.26 | davido__ | joshh Yes, but from 2000 to 2013 lived in Portland and Los Angeles, and being married with kids, haven't really explored downtown at night much since. |
| 23:21.56 | joshh | piper downe is also a nice place but not walking distance from there |
| 23:22.06 | davido__ | is it in the free zone? |
| 23:22.10 | eightyeight | keys on main is good for piano clubs |
| 23:22.13 | joshh | it's on like 13th s |
| 23:22.32 | davido__ | oh, 13th is out of the ride free zone. |
| 23:22.34 | joshh | ya keys on main can be cool |
| 23:22.55 | joshh | the places i mentioned are closest to that area though |
| 23:22.57 | davido__ | I figure it's a lost cause trying to come up with only walking-distance things, but the UTA / Trax free zone is useful. |
| 23:22.59 | eightyeight | they're in the uta free zone |
| 23:23.21 | joshh | the problem with slc is that even walking a couple blocks is pretty far |
| 23:23.28 | joshh | and there are some bleak blocks |
| 23:23.29 | davido__ | yeah. |
| 23:23.46 | davido__ | Portland is ideal for downtown walkability. |
| 23:23.53 | joshh | ya, i love portland |
| 23:23.57 | davido__ | like Pasadena, CA |
| 23:24.00 | davido__ | but bigger of course. |
| 23:24.18 | davido__ | Lived there from 2000-2003, then LA from 2003-2013 |
| 23:24.28 | davido__ | And here before and after that window. |
| 23:25.09 | davido__ | hm, it's not free, but trax goes up to the U also. There's the pie... and whatever else is adjacent to pres. circle. |
| 23:25.14 | joshh | if you look at the survey results from when nanog was in SLC, a lot of the comments were like "don't ever have this in slc again" |
| 23:25.18 | joshh | and i think it was at the sheraton also |
| 23:26.01 | davido__ | well, we're trying to help people get familiar with their surroundings before they arrive via the wiki, blog ,etc. might help. |
| 23:26.02 | joshh | living there you can find and get to the good spots, but for out of towners it can seem pretty barren and boring, especially the western areas of downtown |
| 23:28.07 | davido__ | Maybe we should just charter a bus to park city every night. ;) |
| 23:28.25 | joshh | anyway, randal schwartz is a pretty big beer fan, he'll probably do some good research |
| 23:29.03 | eightyeight | i used to follow randal schwartz on twitter, until he started trolling deists for the deliberate intent to offend |
| 23:29.06 | joshh | maybe the chamber of commerce has some good pages with links |
| 23:29.12 | eightyeight | after a discussion, i found him to be a pretty big ass |
| 23:30.07 | joshh | wonder if he's friends with larry |
| 23:30.28 | joshh | since larry is a pretty hardcore christian iirc |
| 23:30.36 | davido__ | who, randal? they're friends. |
| 23:31.05 | joshh | it's always kinda annoying though when public figures bother talking about religion or believers publicly |
| 23:31.10 | eightyeight | i then wondered why i was following him to begin with. he's a "name", but for what? |
| 23:31.13 | joshh | like when niel degrasse tyson addresses it, etc |
| 23:31.30 | eightyeight | when i looked at his timeline, i honestly didn't find anything that interested me |
| 23:31.31 | joshh | it's like, don't even go into that hornets nest |
| 23:31.58 | eightyeight | i couldn't care less if randal was an atheist. i don't see the point about being an ass about it though |
| 23:32.06 | joshh | sure |
| 23:32.12 | joshh | that's valid |
| 23:32.41 | davido__ | randal is talented, and a good author, but most of what he has to talk about is himself. |
| 23:36.14 | jlp_znc | linkedin has an invited speaker series where they ask prominent people to come and speak to us... couple weeks ago they had Richard Dawkins. |
| 23:36.36 | joshh | ya a lot of the bay area companies do that |
| 23:36.39 | jlp_znc | there's been a little commentary on the internal company group about that one. |
| 23:36.40 | joshh | we had robert gates last week |
| 23:36.59 | joshh | and my last place had madeleine albright and a few other government people |
| 23:37.16 | jlp_znc | I didn't attend, but as I understand it, Dawkins basically blamed everything bad that has ever happened in human history on religion. |
| 23:37.20 | joshh | jlp_znc: did you see my comment the other day re: jay kreps? |
| 23:37.48 | jlp_znc | and essentially said that if you have any kind of faith then you are an idiot. I think I would have been offended if I had gone, myself. |
| 23:38.04 | jlp_znc | joshh: no, I didn't. haven't been online much recently. |
| 23:38.12 | jlp_znc | will have to look at the logs |
| 23:38.23 | joshh | he did a tech talk on kafka here the other day |
| 23:38.29 | joshh | talked a bit about it at linkedin |
| 23:38.49 | jlp_znc | yeah, we use kafka quite heavily |
| 23:39.40 | joshh | we use it for all logs for everything |
| 23:40.00 | joshh | as well as all the data stuff |
| 23:40.05 | jlp_znc | jay was here for about seven years. pretty much the whole kafka team up and quit and formed their own company |
| 23:40.13 | joshh | ya |
| 23:40.19 | jlp_znc | some time back in september or so as I recall. |
| 23:40.40 | joshh | the company was announced a couple weeks or so ago |
| 23:41.14 | levi | Man, someone named their software kafka? |
| 23:41.19 | jlp_znc | seemed that some of the direction they wanted to go didn't jive with the direction we needed kafka to go. |
| 23:41.40 | levi | That seems like an unfortunate naming choice. |
| 23:42.13 | jlp_znc | levi: yep http://kafka.apache.org/index.html |
| 23:43.55 | joshh | i like the name |
| 23:44.10 | levi | Have you read Kafka? |
| 23:44.43 | joshh | no, but im familiar with him |
| 23:44.48 | joshh | read his wiki entry, etc |
| 23:45.27 | jlp_znc | the naming of things is... hard. |
| 23:45.57 | levi | Well, I have only read The Trail (and enjoyed it), but... well, doesn't bring to mind things I'd want associated with my software. :) |
| 23:46.03 | levi | Er, The Trial. |
| 23:46.10 | joshh | kafka and storm are my favorite names for new buzzword stuff actually |
| 23:46.18 | joshh | i also thing cassandra has a nice ring |
| 23:46.33 | joshh | better than all the silly crap like banana monkey etc |
| 23:47.02 | joshh | i think openindiana has the worst name of anything ever |
| 23:47.13 | levi | Or maybe it was something else by him... Can't remember for sure. |
| 23:48.27 | levi | Hmm, yeah, was definitely The Trial. |
| 23:48.40 | joshh | zookeeper has a good name also |
| 23:49.42 | jlp_znc | heh, openindiana |
| 23:50.22 | joshh | the worst thing is the startup names that leave out the last vowel and just end in an r |
| 23:50.54 | levi | But yeah, in The Trial, the main character is accused of a crime, and neither he nor the reader is ever told *what* the crime was supposed to be. The whole book is a bunch of surreal dealings with the "court" and a bureaucratic mess and in the end he's convicted and killed. |
| 23:51.14 | levi | And of course, in The Metamorphosis, the main character literally wakes up one day as a cockroach. |
| 23:51.18 | joshh | i do like the word kakfaesque |
| 23:51.24 | jlp_znc | well, my mom would pronounce openindiana as openindianer |
| 23:51.40 | levi | The name "Kafka" sounds cool, no doubt, but... |
| 23:51.45 | joshh | that's nothing |
| 23:52.11 | joshh | there's a semi-redneck lady in my extended family who calls bangerter highway "bangler" |
| 23:52.27 | jlp_znc | he he he |
| 23:52.47 | jlp_znc | have you ever driven on it? there are often bangs around 5400 S |
| 23:53.11 | jlp_znc | as in collisions. when bangerter first opened, I swear there was one there every day for a couple of years. |
| 23:53.11 | joshh | of all the things utah people say, like calling evanston evingston, or hurricane hurricunn, i think that's the worst |
| 23:53.14 | levi | joshh: Would you appreciate your software being called "kafkaesque" though? |
| 23:53.23 | jlp_znc | amaricun fark |
| 23:54.15 | joshh | meh, not unless it was a good description |
| 23:54.28 | joshh | he probably just liked the author or something though, i don't know the naming story |
| 23:55.04 | joshh | jlp_znc: out here the only place that everyone says wrong is concord, and that's actually arguable |
| 23:55.23 | joshh | actually, there are some street names that i've heard 10 different versions of |
| 23:55.32 | joshh | like junipero serra, even though that was a person |
| 23:57.23 | levi | If "kafkaesque" was a good description of your software, you would probably need to find another job. |
| 23:59.22 | joshh | all i know is that everyone is head over heels in love with kafka now |
| 23:59.45 | joshh | most of my recruiter spam these days even mentions it |
