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| 17:09.08 | Migs | http://imgur.com/a/mAA2k |
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| 17:32.16 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/WIX5h << more net neutrality |
| 17:34.32 | fungus | http://theoatmeal.com/blog/net_neutrality |
| 17:35.30 | youtah | and these: http://imgur.com/gallery/NUrCb Contains NSFW Language in some of them |
| 17:35.49 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/i5Q9xUx.jpg |
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| 17:39.49 | youtah | Last one, and you guys quite distracting me! http://imgur.com/gallery/R6u2kaI |
| 17:43.58 | youtah | ROFL http://i.imgur.com/zCXA9bE.gif So awesome. |
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| 18:13.37 | youtah | jlp_znc, you've been missing out on some good Net Neutrality discussions |
| 18:17.04 | jxqz | https://plus.google.com/109979622757916923877/about?hl=en&gl=us |
| 18:17.15 | jxqz | that's a long, numbery URL just for youtah |
| 18:18.42 | youtah | Why are you posting harleypig's house address in IRC? |
| 18:19.46 | youtah | http://sfglobe.com/?id=18539&src=fbfan_18539 (scroll down and watch the youtube video in the article) |
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| 18:32.10 | youtah | it took me 1 month and 16 days to back up my photos directory using BackBlaze. A total of 4TB. (I have more, this is just the folder I chose for them to back up) |
| 18:37.10 | jxqz | eightyeight: do you know how to get the weechat statusbar to display buffer names instead of numbers? |
| 18:37.48 | jxqz | I'm looking at http://weechat.org/scripts/source/customize_bar.py.html/ but don't know if it will do what I want |
| 18:38.12 | fungus | suggests a better internet connection for youtah. |
| 18:38.23 | eightyeight | i know of '/bar toggle buffers', although it's not exactly what you're looking for |
| 18:38.39 | jxqz | anyone who has more than on the order of 10 irc connections probably has to deal with this problem one way or another |
| 18:39.22 | jxqz | 'notification in buffer 39', well what is buffer 39? do I need to bother with it? |
| 18:39.51 | eightyeight | jxqz: there is 'weechat.bar.status.items' in the settings |
| 18:39.52 | youtah | like the connection I am on right now fungus? in IRC? |
| 18:40.02 | youtah | or are you referring to backing up 4TB of data? |
| 18:40.12 | eightyeight | jxqz: you can format that to fit your needs |
| 18:40.16 | fungus | 4TB in ~45days isn't very fast. |
| 18:40.17 | eightyeight | or, '/bar toggle buffers' |
| 18:40.30 | youtah | fungus, they throttle it on their end. |
| 18:40.38 | jxqz | why should I bother searching the interwebs for solutions when I can just ask eightyeight? |
| 18:40.53 | eightyeight | documentation be damned |
| 18:40.57 | eightyeight | experts ftw |
| 18:40.59 | jxqz | eightyeight: general purpose tech support! |
| 18:41.02 | youtah | and it wasn't actually turned on 100% of the time either. |
| 18:41.14 | eightyeight | starts looking for lunch |
| 18:41.17 | jxqz | ATFE |
| 18:41.19 | youtah | probably about a 90% to 95% running time |
| 18:41.27 | jxqz | ask the friendly expert |
| 18:42.52 | fungus | youtah, still not very good |
| 18:43.34 | programmerq | I wouldn't mind going out for lunch. not sure what to get though. |
| 18:43.36 | fungus | Now 10 days or less would be good. |
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| 18:43.48 | youtah | Find me an unlimited online back up storage service, that truly allows for unlimited (file size and quantity) for $5, that's fully encrypted, that doesn't throttle their upload speeds. |
| 18:44.12 | jxqz | youtah: when you find it, let me know |
| 18:44.13 | fungus | $5? not bad. |
| 18:44.25 | youtah | $5/month yes |
| 18:44.48 | youtah | Amazon Glacier would have cost me something like %70 a month |
| 18:44.50 | youtah | $70 |
| 18:45.00 | youtah | and S3 would have been like $120 a month |
| 18:45.45 | youtah | Crash Plan looked nice |
| 18:47.01 | youtah | I also like that for something like $150 they'll ship my data to be via a 4TB HDD, fully encrypted |
| 18:47.07 | youtah | and then I can use the key when i get it, to recover my data |
| 18:48.36 | manithree | I'm using crashplan. It works for me. |
| 18:50.19 | youtah | When I first started looking, I remember one of the sites mentioning |
| 18:50.42 | youtah | "No throttling" and then when you click on it, it talks about how they will throttle the upload speeds, but it is unlimited bandwidth for the downloads |
| 18:51.55 | youtah | gets back to work |
| 18:52.07 | jxqz | eightyeight: the config that fulfills my desires was '/set weechat.look.hotlist_names_level 2' |
| 18:53.13 | jxqz | documented here: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_user.en.html#weechat_options |
| 18:53.52 | eightyeight | tests |
| 18:55.27 | youtah | and if you guys click and sign up using this referral link, we both get a month free http://secure.backblaze.com/r/00viot |
| 18:55.51 | youtah | except for manithree ... because he already is using crashplan |
| 18:56.30 | eightyeight | interesting |
| 18:56.41 | youtah | TWSS |
| 18:56.54 | eightyeight | goes back to using hotlist_names_level = 12 |
| 18:57.04 | fozzmoo | "What are all these bumps?" |
| 18:57.31 | jxqz | youtah: do you have to use their silly web form to upload files, or install an agent? |
| 18:58.05 | jxqz | depending on how much control they give you, you could encrypt stuff before you upload it |
| 18:58.18 | fozzmoo | Mac and PC? What about... you ... that OS that I use? |
| 18:59.15 | fozzmoo | Bleh |
| 18:59.25 | fozzmoo | Linux, BSD, Unix and other *nix systems: These operating systems are not supported and Backblaze can not be installed on them. |
| 18:59.39 | asoc | ewww |
| 18:59.50 | jxqz | :( |
| 18:59.50 | eightyeight | likely nonfree software anyway |
| 19:00.23 | fozzmoo | So RMS wouldn't approve?! |
| 19:00.28 | fozzmoo | gasps |
| 19:00.38 | jxqz | eightyeight: we can't be friends anymore if you have 'hotlist_names_level = 12' |
| 19:00.58 | asoc | I would rather have nonfree software than no software. |
| 19:01.10 | eightyeight | fozzmoo: with the recent revelations of edward snowden about the nsa and backdoors in software, no one should trust proprietary blobs |
| 19:01.10 | jxqz | that's clearly a setting detrimental to intelligent usability |
| 19:01.31 | jxqz | eightyeight is correct |
| 19:01.56 | jxqz | which brings us to, when will nsa publish their cloud api? |
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| 19:03.05 | eightyeight | would rather have no software than compromise his security, privacy, and freedoms |
| 19:07.56 | youtah | jxqz, I use the agent |
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| 19:11.43 | youtah | considering I am looking at eventually moving my storage box to my own linux based nas |
| 19:11.50 | youtah | perhaps I should start looking at Crash plan |
| 19:11.54 | youtah | as they do have a linux agent |
| 19:12.11 | youtah | Is the linux port worth the extra $1 a month? |
| 19:12.51 | youtah | https://www.code42.com/crashplan/features/compare/ |
| 19:12.57 | youtah | and |
| 19:12.58 | youtah | https://www.code42.com/store/ |
| 19:13.05 | jxqz | why not create a backup service that allows you to use whatever VM up there you want? |
| 19:13.45 | youtah | Although, I cannot find a detailed description of what their unlimited really means |
| 19:14.51 | youtah | "Unless you specify otherwise, CrashPlan keeps deleted files forever." |
| 19:14.53 | youtah | interesting |
| 19:16.02 | eightyeight | with SaSS, you can never guarantee that what is happening to your data is what is claimed |
| 19:17.00 | eightyeight | i guess it's "SaaSS" |
| 19:17.07 | eightyeight | meh |
| 19:17.07 | youtah | help me find Crashplan's detailed, legal description of Unlimited |
| 19:23.07 | youtah | meh is right |
| 19:27.16 | jima | oh man, code42 |
| 19:51.32 | youtah | werid, I just said something from 2004 was really old |
| 19:52.08 | youtah | is there something you're not sharing with the class jima, about code42? |
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| 20:11.11 | jima | nah, not really. i know one of their employees...knew two, briefly. |
| 20:11.57 | jima | i know they got an ipv6 block from arin a while back, but haven't yet rolled it out. |
| 20:13.22 | youtah | https://twitter.com/youtah/status/532251015408386048 |
| 20:13.42 | youtah | Looks like they don't throttle, according to their tweet |
| 20:13.55 | youtah | Perhaps I should jump over from Back Blaze |
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| 21:36.55 | jxqz | eightyeight: have you tried your preemptive netbook kernel yet? |
| 21:44.13 | eightyeight | no. not yet. the netbook is used so infrequently, i don't think about it |
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| 22:00.16 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QMjl1BrBM |
| 22:00.27 | youtah | ^ Glowstick in the eyes after microwaving it |
| 22:00.35 | youtah | OUCH |
| 22:06.20 | jxqz | what happens if you macrowave it? |
| 22:08.35 | RyanE | it gets hot. |
| 22:08.37 | RyanE | :) |
| 22:08.44 | RyanE | Also, I assume it weakens the plastic of the outside shell. |
| 22:09.54 | jxqz | macrowaves can't have as much energy density as microwaves since E ~ freq (E ~ 1/wavelength) |
| 22:26.09 | harleypig | is there a restaurant that offers take out that sellsdecent spaghetti in orem? |
| 22:33.02 | RyanE | Does the Old Spaghetti Factory at the University Mall not do take-out? |
| 22:33.13 | RyanE | It's unclear via their website, I'd call them and ask. |
| 22:35.08 | harleypig | They don't. |
| 22:35.14 | RyanE | :( |
| 22:35.36 | jxqz | harleypig: sounds like this is your business opportunity |
| 22:35.39 | harleypig | I did find Carrabba's site, they do. They even have online ordering. But I've never eaten there, so I'll just have to experiment. |
| 22:36.02 | harleypig | jxqz: it's been tried locally three times in the last ten years that I know of. It's failed within months each time. |
| 22:36.32 | RyanE | Spaghetti delivery take-out has failed 3 times in the last 10 years in Provo? |
| 22:36.43 | RyanE | wow, you really *do* know *everything*... :) |
| 22:37.43 | harleypig | RyanE: :P No, something like grubhub ... general restaurant delivery. |
| 22:37.55 | harleypig | I think it's grubhub that does that ... |
| 22:37.56 | RyanE | ah. Makes much more sense. |
| 22:38.10 | RyanE | I can see the economics of offering that in NYC. Here... too spread out. |
| 22:38.43 | harleypig | I know that one of the attempts felt the economics was doable, it was the lack of interest that killed them. |
| 22:38.57 | RyanE | yeah, we're cheap here, that's for sure. |
| 22:43.48 | youtah | apparently it makes the glowstick glow a little brighter |
| 22:44.14 | programmerq | youtah: I've seen several "news" articles on that. none of them ever say if the kid ended up okay. |
| 22:44.16 | RyanE | yeah, many chemical reactions do happen at a faster rate when heated. Just not a good idea to do it in an enclosed container. |
| 22:44.23 | RyanE | other than hot liquid, probably fine. |
| 22:44.27 | RyanE | it's non-toxic |
| 22:44.42 | programmerq | microwaved to the point that it broke the plastic shell, risk of burns. |
| 22:44.58 | RyanE | it's not a huge amount of liquid, though. |
| 22:45.10 | RyanE | not that I'm volunteering to repeat the experiment. :) |
| 22:45.17 | youtah | lol |
| 22:45.20 | youtah | So |
| 22:45.43 | youtah | Long story short, I had a quick chat with Crash Plan about their "Unlimited" |
| 22:45.49 | youtah | https://twitter.com/crashplan/status/532266178253946880 <<< 4 tweet convo |
| 22:46.00 | youtah | in short, "SuhWEET" |
| 22:46.58 | programmerq | the problem with unlimited is you don't know what the limits are-- they probably have some clause they exploit to get rid of heavy users. |
| 22:47.29 | programmerq | I remember a customer made this when I was at BH: http://www.loadingartist.com/comic/hostdumpster/ |
| 22:47.32 | RyanE | It's Unlimited. |
| 22:47.43 | RyanE | Note, the period after Unlimited is actually a very samll asterisk. |
| 22:47.56 | RyanE | s/samll/small/g |
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| 22:50.01 | jxqz | that's called chemical potential |
| 22:50.27 | jxqz | one of the main thermodynamic variables |
| 22:50.56 | jxqz | conjugate of number of particles in the system |
| 22:51.30 | jxqz | dU = pdV + TdS - \mudN, where \mu is checmical potential |
| 22:51.33 | youtah | There is no asterisk behind unlimited |
| 22:51.43 | youtah | it says "Truly Unlimited" |
| 22:51.46 | jxqz | there is no youtah behind asterisk |
| 22:51.57 | RyanE | cover your asterisk. |
| 22:53.09 | youtah | I have this idea you guys |
| 22:53.33 | youtah | Let's go to RyanE's house with some glowsticks...... |
| 22:53.54 | RyanE | My microwave sucks so much, it'd only get 'em warm... :) |
| 22:54.06 | jxqz | he doesn't even have a macrowave |
| 22:54.30 | RyanE | kids burned the popcorn in a nice hotel because they set it for 4 minutes, which is fine at *our* house... :| |
| 22:54.46 | Amagon | is anyone else's comcast crapping out? |
| 22:54.50 | RyanE | never a good sign when you see smoke as you go down the hall towards your room, with the smoke alarm going off. |
| 22:55.08 | Amagon | 2nd day in a row around this hour. maybe it's just my neighborhood. |
| 22:56.12 | asoc | Amagon: Do you rent a modem? |
| 22:58.42 | asoc | I saw really similar stuff when I was renting. |
| 22:58.58 | asoc | it all went away when I bought my own modem. |
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